Guild Wars 2

23min or 12 hours and 23min?

how long from now?

Most of you are insane, TL:DR at end

So lets see what has been released and what tips has anet gave:

-All elite speccs will be focused on CC/support
-Chronomancer got Wells and a Shield, we can assume that no other elite specc will get necro
-Dragon kitten got Bow and traps, we can assumi that no other elite specc will get Ranger
-Necro has been confirmed to get GreatSword and since Ranger is out, Warrior or Guardian
-Engineer is getting Hammer and since the trailer show it and some anet staff winked at us, we all see flying minions and since necro has been taken, Hammer+minions= guardian
-That means that Necro is getting Warrior stuff and since its a support/CC, necro is getting either banners or shouts
-Druids are getting staffs so that means either ele or mesmer since necro has been taken, am voting for elemental cuz water magic/earth magic helps plants grow and water magic is support and druid is a support role

So that leaves us with a few choices since we rule out many options

-What will thief get?
-What will elementalist get?

To answer this question we only have to see whats left, that means engineer has 2n and mesmer has 2nd.

Since Elementalist is getting Tempest and i guess sword, we can take out engineer and that ends our logic.

TL:DR
-Guardian gets Ranger and becomes a Dragon Hunter: Bow+traps
-Mesmer gets Necro and becomes Chronomancer: Wells
-Ranger gets Elementalist and becomes Druid: Staff+"waterish/earthish" skill on staff with a nature theme, no 2nd guess on support
Engineer gets Guardian: Hammer and “flying spirit drones” or whatever (wards?)
Necro gets Warrior: 2hand sword most likely Ranged and either Banners or Shouts
Elementalist gets Mesmer and become tempest: 1hand sword and Glamours
Thief gets Engineer: Rifle+Elixirs (think support)

And by this logic Warrior gets Thief: Either Pistol or dagger and Deception or tricks for utility, i think tricks is achivable by warriors standarts

Nerfing Power build is not the way to go to make the other builds more apealing, you nerfing the fun of Power builds.

Fluffball.8307:

Sebrent.3625:

Will have to see the rest of the specializations, but it’s an interesting thought … not sure if I feel like Chronomancer is Mesmer + Necro either.

6 gods, 6 dragons, 6 specializations we don’t know about yet. 6×6×6 is 216. 2+1+6=9. 9-6(gods/dragons/specializations we don’t know about) = 3. 12(months)-5(May)=7. 7+3=10. HoT is released in October.

My brain hurts

…but now am thinking if i should go Dragon Hunter and be a “Ranger” without pet.

Ain’t fair!

lordkrall.7241:

Why specify Warrior as Warrior when every one of our characters are warriors?

In MMO lingo,

Warrior refers to a mostly melee or fully melee character that uses his combat experience and armor to rampage across the battlefield, in some MMORPG the “Warrior” class uses medium armour and fast strickes but this definitation usualy fits better the “Fighter”/Rogue/Barbarian.

Sebrent.3625:

I always felt like sword was supposed to work like this:

Rawr! Eat my dps!
Oh, you’re going to try to hit me? Lol, Evade.
Eat more dps!
Oh you’re going to try again? Evade. /giggle
Back to dps! I’m on you like white on rice.

sort of like a melee version of the shortbow where you auto-attack someone to death while evading their “big hits”.

Till the animation roots you in place and you a eat a Eviscerate to the face!
RAWR! Eat that DPS!

Basicly a Ranger that uses Shortbow hybrid nature and supports

A Jack of All, Master of none Ranger:
-Average Condition damage (bleeds ticking around 84/s, poison 166/s)
-Average Physical damage (1500 Power with 92% Critical Damage and 40% Critical Chance)
-Above Average Survival
-Average Support but since Ranger support doesn’t use much Healing Power, it’s quite good

Just seen the chronomancer video and am i missing something?

What’s the trade off for becomign a chronomancer? Wich skills or trait lines i lose?
Am i forced to use those 4 utilitys/elite?
Do i lose some weapon?

Sometimes in traits i see Phantasm only but then i see Ilussion

Can anyone clarify?

Justine.6351:

So your entitlement history as ranger was needed to cry about sword aa. I’m sure you are aware of the multitude of threads about it already?

WE won many battles, sword auto root is one of the next battles, and if you see the ready up where they show the brainstorming that they are doing for the Ranger, you would know that Sword auto rooting will still be a problem in HoT

AH!
Now you get a kittenty Longbow!
Yes all Longbows are kittenty, except the Ranger one if you trait for it!

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Sneakier.9460:

…So… when is 1 hand sword getting fixed by removing the kittenty root? I don’t care about what Elitist theory nubs say, you can’t pve with zerker ranger or even soldier ranger if you get rooted all the time, random dmg will own you….

It’s working as intended and the best part about the sword, but you need to turn off the AA an press 1 manually so that you can break the chain if you need to.

That’s not a fix, it’s a bandaid.

Oh

i bet we are getting Nature Renewal Spirit, we are defenatly getting some dope spirit

For the staf, think World of Warcraft balance druid and resto shaman

“Wrath” has skill 1 for staff
“Entagling Roots” has we can see from the video
Some huge Water Field on 4 or 5 (see Mesmer Staff/Elementalist Staff)

Has a Norn Ranger

I srsly hope Druid doesn’t get transformations… I have a couple of useless elites that are pretty pathetic

Let me introduce myself.
I played Ranger in Guild War 1 since launch till GWEN and was a beta tester for Guild Wars 2.
I made a Ranger obviasly and after 4/5 months after launch took a break till now, played 2 weeks 1 year ago to see how the ranger was but not much changed.
So let me begin, Ranger was OP once in Guild Wars 2, at BETA GreatSword Power Ranger had everything to fight 2vs1 and even 3vs1 and reign supreme, then GreatSword was nerfed to the ground, but seems slighty better now.
Shortbow was decent and still is decent, even after the initial nerf but now into what mathers.
My beloved longbow finaly got the love that derserved, when i checked the Read the Wind Trait, a tear of joy droped.
I also see that Entanglement FINALY is a 60s cd, OMFG! FINALY they heard the community.
And the Signets! FINALY we don’t have to trait then to make it any good and they get a respectable CD
Since launch i can finaly get some respect in pve and WvW and some sPvP for pulling a Longbow altough Longbow needs some love for sPvP.
Rangers, we are finaly winning a war that started since the Greatsword nerf, making Ranger a solid class, until now we had couple working builds.
So… when is 1 hand sword getting fixed by removing the kittenty root? I don’t care about what Elitist theory nubs say, you can’t pve with zerker ranger or even soldier ranger if you get rooted all the time, random dmg will own you.

We sure would welcome Hammer and Staff weapons for the ranger like we had in gw2

The staff would be a support weapon around traps and spirits like gw1 players used (manly for the extra energy)

The hammer would be a variant of the GS mixed with warrior hammer with a touch of Beastmastery

20/20/0/0/30 could become real!

valkyre/berseker and l2p is the way to go

Terravos.4059:

Shouts themselves are still fairly crappy on a Ranger

The Rez one no one uses anymore
Guard, the only reason it got used because it was Low in Cooldown for the Shout Builds, If any of the other abilities would of been of equal cooldown (like Sic’Em) they probably would of been used over Guard….The only time the ability has ever been used for the actual ability itself was back in the day when i could send my pets over walls to attack people…That is the only time.
Protect Me – Is still Meh, usually ends up with your pet instantly dying unless you bring a Bear.. but then you’re bringing a Bear….so you’re screwed either way
Sic’Em, still crap…No on uses it because it grants damage or speed to a pet, because usually that breaks anyway, The only reason you run the ability, is to troll Stealthers.

I use protect me in my Power Ranger WvW build, protect me and signet of stone= 12s alive

Ah!

Now you know how power rangers feel sine beta where we are gutted each patch

Moment of Clarity: This trait now applies the Moment of Clarity effect to you and your pet on interrupt and now grants 200% damage on the next attack, up from 150%. This trait is now able to stack with the Attack of Opportunity effect for a total of 250% damage. This trait now has a recharge time of 10 seconds, up from 5 seconds.

Maul just got more insane

Hilt bash>signet of the hunt> bang 250% damage Maul

Norn city is my new hub

Zanshin.5379:

I even wonder if they have an economy specialist at ArenaNet.

they had to “program” the TP

That am 100% sure, gw2 market is a perfect example of supply&demand and the market is pretty well balanced

I don’t know their names but i now their quotes:

“I found a entrance to the sewers, respectable ppl can’t go there but… i wana live there” skrryt near bank

“I don’t mind your a charr, lets play!” children near bank

“Do you have any char iron, there’s a “dont remenber” thats begging for it" human and skytt at black lion trading company

emikochan.8504:

From the top of a wall, everyone looks the same :p

Are you saying that a Norn looks like a Dredge?!?!?

BY THE BEAR! YOU INSULT US ALL!

Valentin.2073:

15k? is that for real?

On sPvP i hit a thief with a 10k maul, you can only have 60% critical damage in sPvP so in WvW am not suprise biggers hits can be achieved

BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!

57K BARRAGE on a 20k hp zerker ranger

Didn’t go there again.

Like Good ol’ Master Bronk taught:

“When it comes to besting the enemy, there’s no such thing as overkill.”

Tengu are going to go full isolation mode for the next years?

rezzing aint for everybody, in LA i only rezz ppl 1500 away from the npc spamming AoE and if they in downed state

Am a zerker ranger, if i stop in the wrong time in LA zerg events, i get sniped in 2s

If you want WvW, consider a azura

Technoblade+Moment of Clarity+Concussive Shot= 6s daze

Lore Wise+ armour wise= Norn

It’s like humans but with a different lore

Will you anwser the call of the wild?

Pic related, norn look very good in medium armour

Mesmers don’t exist, we are just illusions in your mind

Get it to 80 and get full exotic, it’s great for pve stuff

When am playing my thief i always miss my bear that keeps enemys from me

The boggye man is real and you just found it

Dagger/pistol+poison

animalmom.1062:

Those of you who have played GW1 or Gw2 a long time – do you think Anet will let us refund Valk or Zerk ascended gear? I spent months on that, anythign with a ferocity stat should get a refund or do-over if it gets nerfed as hard as it sounds like it is getting nerfed.

I wont rage quit but i think i will lose-interest quit if Valk becomes totally crappy.

It wont become crappy, your crits will just do like 10% less damage

And remenber Magic Find gear?
No refund on that

Only Crit-Damage will be nerf…

Meaning:

You have 123% Critical damage now
You may see a reduction for about 15%/20% and have 108%/103% with the same gear you have now.

Very little will change

AEFA.9035:

Battosai.5620:

when setting it up in spvp the maul crit can get even higher than that. 50k+ is possible, with a setup mind you.

LOL thats broken as kitten. 36k hit for 1 skill

with a setup meaning the target has no armour at all its like hitting a bunny

This one trick poney still makes me smile with my ranger

I use it in hot join pvp and laugh so hard when i crit eles/thiefs for 10k mauls

I like some sugestions but not all, they lack sense

Hunter’s call should apply Blindness each second, not knockdown, makes more sense and would work great for pve/pvp

Also, barrage should have faster caster time, Ice bow “barrage” seems faster wich aint fair and we should be able to cast barrage on the move

We need this on the move for WvW and sPvP

Also, what about a new utility:

“Read the Wind”: Your projectiles do 25% extra damage and fly at double speed, 30s. Preparation 40s cd with half a second cast time

Think about it!

Soilder.3607:

Sneakier.9460:

Your lack of damage is disturbing

For the gear you have and against the targets you were hitting, if you had valkyre gear you would 1 shot then with the signet combo+maul

And then as I miss that highly telegraphed combo I am stuck with half as much survivability. This build performs very well and those videos are proof. You can’t even say otherwise.

Yes, I’m not zerk, but the damage is good and so is the survivability.

I do it all the time, unless they have a stun breaker, it hits

Signet of the Wild> Hilt Bash (Moment of Clarity for 2s daze/Stun)>Maul

In WvW contest, you are nothing more than a mild annoyance
In pve, ppl will laught at you unless you doing some boss that you can’t crit

But then again, am that kinda of player that trades half survival for DOUBLE damage

I trade my pet for 25%/30% damage boost to physical/condition damage

In gw1 i wasn’t forced to use pet, why should i in gw2?

Your lack of damage is disturbing

For the gear you have and against the targets you were hitting, if you had valkyre gear you would 1 shot then with the signet combo+maul

CntrlAltDefeat.1465:

I have to agree. I rolled a ranger, and when I dropped my first trap, and foe never came near it because they were too busy chasing my pet, they lasted another 5 lvls before they were deleted. In gw1 I never used a pet..I found the compulsory pet in gw2 just annoyed me more than anything else.

The scope in ranger previously was good;
Interrupter
condition pressure
choice of short, medium,long range
Bunny thumpers
Trappers

It really feels to me that rangers took a large step backwards in gw2. They’re not even the best profession with bow..if the ranger isn’t the best given profession with bow, well that spoke volumes to me. It is why you see so many rangers in higher content using axe/warhorn.

The scope ain’t that far off

We still have condition builds that work amazing

We still have trappers builds that are amazing

Our support builds are EPIC to say the least, water fields, spirits, many buffs

The problem in Ranger lies in its POWER builds

Anything going Marksmanship/Beastmastery/Skirmishing for physical DPS is doomed in most cases

Marksmanship/Skirmishing problem: Our weapons do not hit HARD enough for a Power/Crit build to be competitive, yes we can hit 10k mauls with Signet of the Wild and Signet of the Hunt but thats 1 trick poney

Beastmastery: Our Pets are mentaly kittened, why would you waste precious taste making ur kittened pet a tiny bit stronger?

I hope anet either gives rangers more physical damage or more survival cuz right now we are broken

My 50 cents

TheGaryTh.1649:

Crafting 400-425 is pretty cheap if you refine Hardened Leather if you don’t have or want to buy/farm the Oricalcum or Ancient Wood.

Crafting 450-475 is when you can get xp from crafting “gold-free” ascended materials such as Bloodstone and Dragonite, however it can be expensive Karma/Fractal Token/Laurel-wise. I don’t believe Bloodstone should be too hard/expensive to get.

475-500 you basically just need to discover weapons. I’d suggest discovering all of the warhorn and torch basic recipes(the ones you can just buy from the vendors)

mtpelion.4562:

Bows are cheap, thanks to the fact they use wood and leather which are both SIGNIFICANTLY less expensive than Orichalcum. Obviously the insignia will still be expensive to make, but both bows should be your go to items for discovery if you want to save money.

Not true, bows require 4 Ancient Wood planks(~56s) which is 12 logs(~60s). Torches and horns both are 2 Oricalcum Ingots and 2 planks (total ~48s) or 4 ores and 6 logs (total ~50s).

If you’re choosing to T6 mat farm every day and not rely on the tp to get mats I’d even say making pistols and even rifles would be cheaper timewise, since it’s more of a mix of both ingots and wood, and you’d wouldn’t lose as much when using the tp to exchange ingots for planks due to the 15% charge when you sell items

It was DIRTY CHEAP getting to 425, hardened leather and hardened strings all the way

Cost me 1g mats at most!

From 425-500 i found a new way to make proffit of TP, pretty solid break even point and a very stable market for it.

Am mostly going to discover weapons all the way to 450 then gona follow your advice on gold free items till 475

Any tips for 475-500?

Oh god, don’t force ppl with a PVT build, its good for PVE when you can’t crit bosses and need to survive.

I rather play a zerker longbow build in WvW than go PVT

So…

What numbers you guys recomend?

Usualy for sPvP i run 16k hp berseker

Am currently building my thief for WvW and am thinking 15k hp 50% crit chance and a good chunk of power:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYEQNAoaFmQ2eUh7EP5fAs0ZQTtEA-jUCBYfCiEBBiKAMzUIN3UasqpIas6aYaXER1WzFRrGA-w

1. Ranger PLEASE help him, help us, make him OP then tone down a tiny bit, power builds arent good enough

2. Elementalist needs help

3. Thief could use some buffs in Pistol/Pistol

Anyone has a guide?

Am looking at this one http://www.gw2crafts.net/huntsman_400.html

but its expensive for my limited budget, anyway, i just want the cheapest way to get to 500

Any guides/tips?

You should try Power Ranger!

Mesmer is a god of survival

trunks.5249:

pets are far from useless my lynx the other day didn’t just down a Mesmer but killed the Mesmer before i had a chance to use a finisher because i was busy killing a thief and at lest a few times a day in pvp people will run away because my pet is killing them and my pet doesn’t die fast at all most rangers just don’t spec for pets i have Faux Sheaux’s Roaming Regen Ranger (RRR) Build 0/0/30/10/30 some rangers just don’t use the right pets at right time or just blow off BM all together watch this should cheer you up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs7jbFqRCTA

You kinda missed the point, in sPvP i use a Rabbid build and i own ppl

Rangers condition builds work great! The problem is that its the only viable builds for Ranger atm, anything going Power Ranger will fail

In sPvP i run a 10/30/30/0/0 build and i know it feels great but i don’t run it because i love it, i run it because its the only way to play ranger… condibunker

frans.8092:

Apparently it wasn’t so hard to make the hero-ai good enough to ban them from PvP in GW1.

Pets in gw1 were cannon fodder, in pvp they were used for the mystical iWay, thumper builds and some rare beast master (beast master builds were mostly used in low pvp like Random Arena)

I wish ranger could use hammer so we could bring back the RaO Thumper, HaO Thumper and other cool stuff back into gw2