Guild Wars 2

Ronnie Hu.1694:

i feel like i bought a unfinish product from Anet.

OMG this x1000

imagine,
NEW ROLE: THE HEALER

let only give it 1 beta weekend

I understand that things need tweeking after launch, and things need to be fixed here and there, and that is perfectly normal and acceptable. but this is not the case we have here. big chuncks of the expansion require complete revamps.

Ardenwolfe.8590:

From experience, the silence means some huge announcement or overhaul is in the works.
[snip]

for their sake… i certainly hope so

Azure The Heartless.3261:

An OP class is a class that, in most general combat situations, outperforms the other classes by a reasonable margin.

So far I do not think we have classes like that.
we have the majority of classes that do well across the board, and then a couple that just dont do much of anything.

I will have to disagree with that. or more precisely your choice of words.

the OP class has to outperform ALL other SIMILAR ROLES by a reasonable margin.

a proper balance it to figure out if the build fulfills its ROLE better than other ROLES.

example,
a Cleric Druid should 100% and reasonably outperform any non healer role but should not be able to outperform and DPS/Condi/CC role
You should not be able to kill a cleric druid 1v1 but also the cleric should not be able to kill you either due to its lack of DPS
^ this is extremely trivialized.

the balancing i am seeing the devs do does not reflect this method at all.
we see contradicting things like the recent nerfs to the druid. where a zerker druid is able to heal better than a cleric druid

(i use druid as an example a lot because i main one)

Celtic Lady.3729:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

It’s not fair for small guilds to get cheaper upgrades over larger guilds.

I disagree. Upgrades for a guild should be based on percentages that directly relate to a guild’s size or activity level. What’s not fair is for small guilds to carry the same weight as much larger guilds.

And I think it’s a bad idea overall to discourage smaller guilds. The world is big enough (or should be) for both types of groups.

This is a double edge sword.

Lets assume you are leader of a large guild and upgrading it would cost 1 million gold (due to your epic size). now your friend is in a 2 person guild with his wife and it only costs him 100 gold to upgrade it, because its a proportional system.

Step 1 Create a new guild with you and your officer
Step 2 pay 100 gold to upgrade
Step 3 Migrate your Epic guild (weeding out the inactives)
Step 4….
Step 5 Profit.

My opinion on guilds.
It should have been time based
I am in a 12 man guild, its small. its friendly, its fun and we play other games together too. the guild has been active since launch. I think that if we are active and participate, then we should be able to progress in our guild updates at a reasonable pace.

Instead of Material requirements it could have been event based.
just like claiming the guild hall that required a “mission” the same should have happened with the upgrades. For the Mine, you need to clear out caves of bats, kill the boss, hire some miners. Every week (guild hall mission) you need to clear out the mine as a mission to keep mining. im just brainstorming here.
have 3 missions, 1 to keep getting ressources, 1 to upgrade the hall and 1 to defend the hall.

The problem with the current system is that you have to pick either you or the guild. (this system is worse on pvp where you have to sacrifice your own character development) Our new members (like new to guild wars)

I will never feel right asking them to dish out their own gold and materials for the guild. On the other hand i would use them as meatshields in a mission. In all seriousness the new recruit would have more fun being part of a mission (scale them to 80 like in WvW) than having to farm materials and then give them to the guild instead of leveling their crafting or selling them for some cashy cash

Justine.6351:

Wondrouswall.7169:

All of those are tweaks. Nothing listed is even remotely a rework, just shifts in numbers or adding/removing an element onto the current version and not altering functionality.

Multiple tweaks has a way of creating substantial unbalance.

tweak? how about a 400% increased cooldown tweek….

… tweak my kitten

i don’t know how simple this would be.

I jump puzzle/vista areas have an NPC or a field effect that shoots you with a debuff preventing glider use
“No No No!: Gliders are unable to be deployed while under the effect of No No No”

Inside cities it could be activated for kittens and giggles. Like someone mentioned prior. you need a level 80 and own the expansion to get gliders anyway, so vistas wouldn’t be much of an issue in cities.

Sicarius.4639:

Anyone who preorders runs the risk of not being happy with the product.

If only we all just stopped doing it ay?

but this is 3 weeks after launch…so it has nothing to do with pre-order

1. Druid does not have a pet – Return weapon damage multiplier to standard
(this increases the weapon damage to be on par with other classes)
2. Staff skills

• #1 with the change to damage multiplier should be fine
• #2 add stronger heal and damage than staff #1 and dmg enemy + burn enemies the whisp touches 10% more than Staff1
• #3 fix bug that puts us in combat
• #4 add a bleed and increase root to 3 seconds similar to entagle elite skill but at 50% effectiveness
• #5 make it last 15 seconds and is a dome (like mesmer skills)

3. Celestial Avatar Skills

• #1 Radius slightly larger and instant
• #2 Make it trap like mechanics
• #3 don’t change
• #4 don’t change
• #5 change completely, make a new one similar to staff 5 but CA version

4 glyphs (first make the only new druid skills available under water, so far none are)

• Rejuvenation: looks good to me
• all ultility (including the elite) glyphs should have their powers and range increased and their cooldown from 20 seconds to 30+ so more power more cooldown. so many times i am fighting mobs, i get out of melee range and I pop my elite, and none get tethered,
• add a small heal factor to activating the glyphs (on par with the new staff #2

5. Traits
oh just start from scratch that is just a pure mess

I would be ok with a CD equivalent to elite skills (60-120s) IF they get rid of AF
But also the duration on par with the same elite skills

it would probably be an improvement than what we have now

druid in raid: Guys!!! don’t dodge and facetank everything, make sure you get hit a lot at the beginning so when we get in trouble i can save our kitten

runeblade.7514:

SoftLight.2175:

so what are we supposed to do in raids now? bossfight starts. the boss deals a kittenload of dmg and you cant heal them up because you cant generate af untill someone is allready diing??? like for real. wasnt druid supposed to be the new heal class? we re just plain useless now

You’re suppose to reroll to a Ele.

kitten i rolled a rev

going for herald heal because it can do a better job than the Drood

Aylpse.6280:

Next patch I expect nerfs.

Rumor has it, Tuesday will be bringing around a batch of nerfs for all classes.

2g says only Druid is nerfed and DH is buffed.

why would i bet against that when there is a 95% chance that it will happen.

you know you reach the point where something is so bad that it becomes ridiculous and all you can do is laugh. well i’m there. every patch i look at the ranger nerfs and laugh wondering how will A-net nerf us next. how much lower can ranger/druid get. We went from good enough, to ok, to its a bad class, to holy kitten we can’t play this, to it’s dead jim, next step 6 feet under?

we have a pool going in my guild as to what aspect of the ranger/druid will get nerfed next. i made myself a good 20G for betting on this one “AF generation nerf”

• bug fix
• bug fix
• bug fix
• ALL OF THE BUG FIX
• oh yeah we can’t forget nerf the druid

who makes these decisions?
I mean, if the problem is that druid charge up their AF to max out before combat starts the solution is not to disable auto attack!
the solution is to NOT generate AF if there is no target.
disabling auto attack is like saying
“oh its dangerous to open car doors while the car is moving fast, lets disable unlocking doors unless the car is turned off” instead of " oh its dangerous to open car doors while the car is moving fast, lets only allow doors to be able to be opened if the car is moving at 0m/s allowing multiple other functions like the radio and seat warmers to be available"

seriously these decisions are no longer common sense! they are dealing in absolutes! like there is no middle ground with them!
oh kitten this attack is OP, lets make it Obsolete! kitten guys?

we should also nerf the critters in the wild. they take 1 hit to kill… way to OP

snipers are fine.

Donari.5237:

Richochet, how would you ensure that only the part you want to donate to the Treasury gets pulled over to it?

drag item into donation box
box apears “select quantity”
boom 187.3 shovels donated out of your 199 in your bank.

Why not then uss the concept of the revenant.
4 nature ancients.
Feline
Canine
Saurian
Avian

There is no tranform but an “aura” and your pet is disabled (absob their power ( also reset weapon dmg multiplier to standard)
Its not a shroud its a stance that uses f5 to activate and absorb your pet that allows different effects of your glyphs. (just like it does with your CA)

Felines are condi related
Canines are mobility related
Saurians are damage related
Avians are cc related.

So same as the rev with 2 active legends the ranger will have 2 active different pets

P.s. elite would only work if select 4 types of pets are used. So if you have a pig equiped you would not have the f5 option to absorb.

Though i would still keep it staff but not healing related
Staff 1 dmg
Staff 2 aoe dmg
Staff 3 whisp movement (like it is now but with same cooldown and blink from mesmer)
Staff 4 aoe push back
Staff 5 self dome projectile reflect

let me make an analogy

you pay 10$ for a gym membership (i know that’s cheap) that gives you access to all their machines and weights.
one day they upgrade the gym and include a swimming pool. to access the swimming pool you need to pay 10$ extra to access it.

But you don’t know how to swim so you don’t need to pay the 10$ extra to use the pool. so you keep paying your 10$.

Except now you can’t use the weights either on the gym floor, you can only use the machines. If you want to use the weights you need to pay for the pool

that is what is happening with HoT and the guild bonuses.
you paid 50$ to get the core that included guild bonuses.
you are not interested in the expansion so they remove the guild bonuses.

they did something similar to fractals.

Horus.9685:

“I want the completly optional but cool looking shiny stuff, however i dont want to work towards it.”
Jeah, they should remove the gift requirement, your logic is flawless.

actually the OP is spot on!
Anet says
“we want to get away from dungeons, we are transferring the rewards away from them entice people to do other things that are more lucrative, also you need to do dungeons to get the new stuff”

that is flawed logic

it’s not about the time you put into the event or time spent out of the event. it’s about your contribution to the event. (or your party’s contribution)

example (using arbitrary numbers for ease of calculations)
in a pewpew event 10 enemies spawn,

to get gold you need to get credit for 9-10 kills
to get silver you need to get credit 5-8 kills
to get bronze you need to get credit 3-5 kills

in a escort mission. you would get rewards based on the time spent protecting the target. (assuming 10 minutes to get from point A to point B. this is variable of course)

10 whole minutes = gold
less than 10 more than 5 = silver
less than 5 more than 2 = bronze

in a limited quantity fetch mission “thanks for your help” (10 items)
7 or more = gold
3-7 = silver
1-2 = bronze

Boss Events (this one is tricky)
use a calculation that allows % damage dealt “if solo” then split into G/S/B
use a calculation that allows % damage dealt “if party” then split into G/S/B
+ bonus 10% if spent 100% time (no deaths)in the event AND get a silver reward or more

the issue is that time is the wrong metric to use to calculate inactivity.

reasoning:
most people should be getting the silver reward as
gold is for exceptional participation
bronze is to allow people that came late to still get something,

this way it doesnt matter

the one in dragon’s stand only his mouth?
the world map event is the final fight (aka keep him busy while the “heroes” lobotomize it)

you know, I don’t mind putting FANCY, FABULOUS, OUT OF THE ORDINARY glider skins on the gem store. but also put some normal, not out of this world, wings made of paper and cardboard (if you have to) into gameplay as rewards.

or even better yet, put ALL the skins as collections (since a-net seems to love collections) and put glider trails as gem store upgrades.
- fire trails
- rainbow trails
- fairy dust
- clouds

i can come up with 100s more glider trails. im sure A-net has the manpower to brainstorm many more.

Honestly, I don’t care about the nerfs or buffs as long as we get an explanation. I see every other class get a reasoning behind nerfs (if they get any)

“we changed ABC by 20% because we found that it would be way to strong with XYZ combo and would break the healthy competitive aspect of the game”

rangers get
Devs – “skill ABC was nerfed 400%”
community – “why”
Devs – “(sound of the chirping crickets)”
Devs – “Other skill changed to something unusable”
community – “What the hell?”
Devs – “(sound of the chirping crickets)”
community – devs? explanation? what is going on?
Devs – “1 decision reverted but 4 other things will get nerfed tomorrow”

this reminds me of this clip from robot chicken

Velimere.7685:

Serraphin Storm.2369:

While I miss the damage its a change for the better. Having a pet lay down a smoke field willy nilly would be another reason for people to shun rangers for.

I completely agree. One of my guildmates mains a Ranger and now I don’t have to set my status to offline whenever he logs on to run dungeons and Fractals of the Mists anymore.

This just proves how broken ranger pets are. you either tell them not to take xyz pets or block/offline/ignore/don’t invite them to fun stuff

Frostfang.5109:

In my opinion to the worse. Combofield blind sure, but most things on higher maps are immune to blind….. Better to have things that actually bites on the enemies as active skills.

use cats or birds

Elxdark.9702:

SqualZell.7813:

Elxdark.9702:

tbh this is more like a nerf than a change I don’t care about stealth tactics or opener or stuff, people will not die from any burst combo you do in this bunker meta unless you have thief/mes in your comp.

now the pet lost damage because smoke assault was nerfed and you can’t use it for insta burst someone (zephry’s speed).

Well I don’t even care at this point whatever glhf whoever wanted this.

The combo field doesn’t even blind lol.

1. YOU don’t care about stealth tactics. Others do. (game isn’t tailored for YOUR needs only)

2. If you want Burst, Use another pet, with the previous 50% damage nerf they got if you are using it for the burst you are not doing as much damage as you could be doing with other pets. (aka. wrong pet bro)

tell me why would I need kitteneless smokefield instead of a HUGE burst spike when I could get a thief and get perma stealth with my team?

I don’t want to play a thief, what do i do then?

HUGE? LOL WHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH use another pet for “HUGE” (also unreliable) burst, besides other pets can do better at burst. we don’t need another.

Elxdark.9702:

tbh this is more like a nerf than a change I don’t care about stealth tactics or opener or stuff, people will not die from any burst combo you do in this bunker meta unless you have thief/mes in your comp.

now the pet lost damage because smoke assault was nerfed and you can’t use it for insta burst someone (zephry’s speed).

Well I don’t even care at this point whatever glhf whoever wanted this.

The combo field doesn’t even blind lol.

1. YOU don’t care about stealth tactics. Others do. (game isn’t tailored for YOUR needs only)

2. If you want Burst, Use another pet, with the previous 50% damage nerf they got if you are using it for the burst you are not doing as much damage as you could be doing with other pets. (aka. wrong pet bro)

I think the issue comes with the delay of the heal bombs.

• Verdant Etching and Grace of the Land (also CF#2) takes way too long to activate from the moment the “trap” is set and activation of the seed. By that time the party member is a mile away (or dead)

• CF#3 although it takes a while to drop, the radius is large enough that you can catch people in it. but the healing factor feels very weak considering the cooldown.

• Staff 2. kitten that thing takes a long time to reach the target, does minimal damage, and heals for the same amount as Staff1. (so whats the point of using it)

• Pets can now keep their names

oshilator.4681:

Calling it now.

The ICD on Ancient Seeds will be increased to 25 seconds.

nah that would be a semi reasonable nerf, if you want to pull an A-net nerf you need to go beyond nerf.

so AS ICD will be increased to once per day, reset at daily.

a good build for a ranger/ druid is probably rerolling a necromancer or a guardian. (pets and bows and traps)

Justine.6351:

Scrimschaw.5784:

Justine.6351:

Knighthonor.4061:

Just talk to us Anet, at least you can explain to us any trouble that may be going on in the studio regarding Druid Balance conflicts. Maybe we can be best at providing a better idea for solving what ever troubles you all have with the Druid while still making is useful.

but at least communicate with us whats going on…

Yes ask us! We write essays and cry when we don’t get our way/ask for job terminations!

;-(

Justine, please resist the urge to be immature and condescending towards other players constantly. It gets tiresome and is entirely unhelpful, and it makes you look bad moreso than anybody else. More communication would benefit the Ranger community and help prevent mishaps like those involved with We Heal as One!, Celestial Avatar Force degeneration, Lingering Light, and the Smokescale pet. There will always be complaining on the forums, but that is no excuse for lack of communication.

Those were not “accident” changes. I think Lingering Light nerf was proposed, looked at, and just let happen knowing it would rub people the wrong way. As for my not-so-friendliness, I blame it on the ranger forum. But I will stop posting for awhile and see if it helps.

I agree, those were not “accident” changes, they were “oh kitten 1 guy inthe pvp forums is not happy lets change it in less than 24 hours” changes.

Also one guy came through (the guy who posted 5 minutes after the LL change about Ancient seed) stating that he was just trolling the pvp forums.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Be-prepared-for-a-Ancient-Seeds-nerf/first#post5690566

so yes these changes ARE, like many have said before “knee-jerk” reactions.

Also, the necromancers got 1 nerf, but that is ok since they explained the whole reasoning behind these changes and the community reacted "oh yeah that makes sense ok not cool but ok lets move on. Us rangers we get a nerf without explanation, reasoning or anything. also, if the nerfs were reasonable, ICD increased from 3 seconds to 5 seconds we would be ok its a nerf… sure not cool but ok lets move on. but no we get a IDC increased from 3 seconds to “does not cooldown can only be used once per account”

Edit: typos

well ive seen Ancient Seeds and Grace of the Land on the pvp forums… so i am expecting those 2 to be nerfed by the time monday comes.

+1 man, I too was not fond of the Druid, but I learned to like him and now i am in love with him. finally i get a good build… a build that still is sub par with everyone esle but is fun to play, and its gets shoved to the ground bringing that build from sub par to completely useless.

its frustration at this point…

Kidel.2057:

Grace of the land needs a nerf, not this. The aoe damage buff is too strong. And only requires 1 druid, making 2 druids useless.

just give it a few days, they will destroy Grace of the Land aswell. but first they need to kill Ancient seed.

If its not intended it will be nerfed.

now that we are at it lets nerf them some more,

its 1 gold to swap pets and 20 silver to use their F2 skill.
also if they lose a pvp match they lose 5 pvp ranks
and just to completely break them, have them pay 10 gems to enter ranked matches. would that satisfy the OP?

AgitatedFox.5287:

You get one trait safely put to the side for a while and you people implode and explode seemingly at the same time. Look at the title on this, talk about over reacting. Go play druid PvP (which in my opinion was the only thing I would ever use this trait in) and you’ll find that, hey kitten me Druid still works fine. Get off the self pity ranger train and go enjoy the game.

ill just put this here… watch from 0:38 until about 1:22
https://youtu.be/K2ZHhJQn0B8?t=38s

I don’t want to pvp with my druid.

Chrispy.5641:

nearlight.3064:

Wow. The gutting is strong with arenanet.

Time to bandwagon to ancient seeds and run aggressive CC decap druids.

Next Update::::

Ranger

• Druid – Ancient Seeds: Increased internal cooldown on this trait from 10 seconds to 20 seconds. Reduced bleeding to 4 seconds and removed immobilize. Added Cripple for 1 second.

• Druid – Grace of the Land: Effect only applies while in Celestial Form.

see we all can nerf the druid to the ground… i mean underground (we are already dead on the ground)

more nerfs?

kitten … A-net, you really hate Ranger/Druids…

you don’t even tell us why you kick us in the balls,

necros got 1 nerf and even got a post “reasoning behind these changes”

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/First-Reaper-nerf-of-the-expansion/first#post5673251

i’ll add a funny one to your list proving that the some people don’t know anything about pets and rangers

(fight with a live stealing mob that steals life on meley)

whisper from —-——— “hey you need to put your pet away its interfering with the fight, its healing the boss”
whisper to————" sry yeah, i’ll put it on passive now, should be better"
whisper from —-—— “no i mean put it away, dont summon it”
whisper to —-——-“pet’s don’t work like that, can’t put him away”
whispers from —-—-"OMG you NOOB! Learn to play (insert a bunch of swear words) put your kittening pet away or we will never win this fight! "

so yeah, not the first time ive heard either in whispers or map chats or /say chats to put ranger’s pets away.
Ive even defended a ranger while on my warrior saying “rangers can’t put their pets away, best they can do is put them on passive” to which he/she replied, “what do you know you are a warrior”

yeah, yay community…

I will have to dissagree with you, giving the druid DPS is not the solution. CC and Heal Bombs is its thing. Same as the necro shroud where its only has 1 role, the druid’s celestial form should have the same.

on the other hand i agree with your statement that the druid is forcing me to play out of my condi ranger into a healing support spec. (if i want to use my elite, alternatively i can remain a sub par class (ranger)).

Monk should have been a 2nd new class with these exact abilities the druid has, and the druid should have become more of a HEAVY CC (like the mesmer) using vines and/or banners debuffing enemies.

Lord Trejgon.2809:

SqualZell.7813:

1. remove pets for druids (trust me no one will notice)

it may surprise you but I would notice that
and I’d be really unhappy about that

just for the druids, not the rangers, rangers can still keep their agro machines

Prophet.1584:

Zenith.7301:

Justine.6351:

Zenith.7301:

Justine.6351:

95% looks extreme. Ohwell ;-)

Please don’t start with this crap. If you think 95% is extreme then you haven’t played PvE at a high level at all.

Mesmer illusions have 7-10k HP at most, mobs in fractal 50 swing for 7k autoattacks and some abilities hit as hard as 16-20k damage. We need that level of mitigation to sustain more fragile minions.

20k x .05 = 1k dmg.

I may not lvl 50 fractal but that seems excessive. Any other place in pve/wvw(yeah there are npcs ingame beside pve/lvl 50 fractal) it will 100% carry. I’m not upset, I can take the most glass pet over devourer and not have to manage pet or watch healthbar anymore.

Now multiply that by multiple sources. I take it you haven’t done Verdant Brink dynamic events on a mesmer. The amount of deadly AoE spam, especially on the Wyvern encounter, requires THAT kind of mitigation.

Correction 20k x 0.5 = 10k dmg. that equals dead pet

95% of 20k = 1k, which may be a bit too high but they are looking at it. I figure it’ll get down to the 60-70% mark eventually.

Very very very happy with the change, i’m glad spirits are being made viable and my pet won’t drop dead as I walk into a raid zone!

20k x 0.5 (that means 50% not 5%)
5% would be x0.05

sry you also did your math the wrong direction. 95% of 20k is 19k (not 1k). so if your pet gets hit for 20k damage it will be reduced by 19k thus only receiving 1k damage.

so in the end it is EXTREMELY favorable towards rangers. Specially in PvP and WvW where people tend to ignore our pets.

So I found out the hard way, in the Jade Maw Fractal (20) you can’t pick up crystals while in Celestial Form. I believe you just can’t pick up anything while in that form.

Is this working as intended? Or do I need to cancel it just to pick up something.

it must be a bug, The Herald is doing a better healing job.

I am about to…

but ot be fair, I am ok with Glyphs. If glyphs would have a better range they would be… average

AoE skills lock onto enemy targets that is fine… except staff 5 (the wall) is not an AoE but still locks onto target… kind of useless when you want it in front of the target

oshilator.4681:

Our next specialization will be the Remover.

Upon login, it deletes all rangers on your account.

they will nerf it

50% reduction in the amount of rangers deleted