Guild Wars 2

Why would the Sylvari have to look anything like the dragon to be created as its minions? I seriously doubt the Destroyers ALL look similar to their evil overlord. There’s too far of a range of looks between them. The only probable similarity would be if the dragon is rocky and firey. Jormag’s Ice golem constructs (not the corrupted Norn/random animal minions) look nothing like a dragon. The only likely similarity is an affinity for being icey. The only visible comparison between Mordremoth and the Sylvari would be the plant-like appearance. Also, we know why the Sylvari look the way they do. It has outside influences. For all we know, they might all take on miniature dragon shapes by default, but since someone decided to plant them on 2 dead girls (and later a man), they took that form instead.
Keeping in mind that the Pale Tree popped up somewhat around the same time as the Great Destroyer, (even if it is in seed form)it is a powerful living plant entity, and has a pseudo mind-link to its “minions”, I don’t think it’s a far stretch at all to think they were created by the dragons all along. Could they have shown that link a little better? I don’t know. Maybe. It’s either excellent misdirection going a bit too far, or just flat out bad writing rife with inaccuracies, but I doubt they outright lied about their intentions.

The Flame Legion are not destroyers. They’re charr. Not made of fire and stone. It’s incredibly likely that they will work for the Destroyers though, like they did in GW1. The Flame Legion kind of like powerful things to follow. And if its on fire, even better!

There’s nothing wrong with the Trade Post.

I completely forgot about the ritual :/ Sorry.

We don’t really know what entailed getting Glint free, or if the tablets were solely responsible for freeing the tree.

Just because you didn’t agree with the theories doesn’t mean it was fan fiction. You were wrong. Everyone is wrong sometimes. Hell, you can even reconcile it by saying “The devs failed to present their story in a meaningful/believable way” (which I don’t think they did, but who am I to say? That’s just my opinion) But these blatant accusations that the dev team is outright lying is just childish. Looks to me like a tantrum.

I feel like the game has already hinted at distrust for the Sylvari a few times. Especially with the Priory trio in the Dry Top areas. Also, the key difference with the Slyvari and the other races, is the other races were independent races turned into minions by the dragon after their deaths. They weren’t living breathing minions created from the dragons, for the dragons. Differences like that are not likely to go unnoticed.

I think it’s a sound enough theory. The Pale Tree was likely going to be a general for Mordremoth, or a powerful minion of some kind, but for some reason broke away from his influence. Maybe it was the tablets or the cue sappy Never-ending Story cheesiness style music The feelings of Ventari and the guy (who discovered the seed and whose name I can’t remember) imbued into the tree. Glint is proof that dragon generals can be pulled out of the dragon’s influence.

And Mordremoth was not awake the entire time, probably. I think the Pact even said they intended for their attack against Mordremoth to take place before he fully awoke. It could be possible that he’s not fully awake at all, even now. But he probably is. That pact assault probably encountered his waking tantrum. It may be that the tree was even keeping him asleep, and the Shadow attacked her to halt her influence.

But this is all just speculative I think. It just sounds reasonable to me.

Evidence presented by both sides were equally unfounded in actual “proof”. Some people are just angry that their evidence was wrong. There are “theories” that support that there is no moon, but that “evidence” doesn’t make that idea true. (I only put quotations to show that I think the no-moon theory is absolutely silly, but it does exist all the same). But now that the “Sylvari are not minions” theory has been irrefutably proven wrong, barring some reveal later that Wynne was lying or something, the people who presented their evidence and shut down the equally backed theory of “yes they are minions” are throwing a tantrum. It’s a little depressing. I haven’t posted in the lore forums for a while because it kind of feels like a kittening contest between a few of the established lore people, and this just confirms it.

Pancake district. Pumpkin pie district! Those don’t help me orient myself. They just make me hungry.
I can see the need to use easy reference names for an area with no real waypoint system (other than Skritt tunnels I guess) but I think it becomes unnecessary after a while. I mean, the map might be confusing at first, but after spending about an hour, or maybe a day for people who are a little slower or just don’t pay attention, you kind of know where everything is. Sort of like how people who run champ trains in Frostgorge can name the sectors they visit without even looking at the map.
But I guess this naming system is better for speeding the learning curve along for everyone.

If Glint was wholly corrupted, and thus rendered unable to biologically reproduce, it could mean that her “babies” are more like clones. Not so much genetic offspring of herself and a separate entity, thus being genetically similar, but slightly different from herself, but more an exact copy. Maybe with some modifications added by Glint during the creation process. It’s just reasonable to assume that if you can mold the process of creating life artificially, of a sorts, you can probably control HOW it grows.

On the other hand, if she was pregnant before corruption, how freaking long is her gestation period? Why are the eggs hatching at such odd intervals? (How messed up is her anatomy to pass pointy crystalline eggs? >:o) We see no evidence of any other members of her species. Doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Really the only extinct species we know of that existed in the time before the last rise is the Giganticus Lupicus (and the leviathans maybe? I’m not sure about those) so we’re obviously missing…about 99.999999% of the fossil record of life here, but you’d think someone like the Zephyrites or the Forgotten might know. Maybe. Kind of a stretch really. Glint is awfully selective about her information. Either way, as it was just asked above, who was her mate?

I think the Scarlet Mordremoth relationship is inherently vague and hard to interpret. Yes, she did seem to influenced by SOMETHING to wake up the dragon early. But was she doing it for the dragon’s benefit? Whatever was talking to her may have convinced her that she was being helpful. Or maybe she was just doing the typical nightmare court thing of “screw it, this should be funny” but to an extreme. Either way, it wasn’t the dragon that had corrupted her. It’s possible that her “corruption” is no different than when certain humans just go a little insane. Maybe Schizophrenia. Or brought by something completely not dragon related. (Since this is a video game, and she had such a world altering role, I really doubt they’d go with the simple mental disorder route, but it’s just an example).

I thought the tree inherently spawned beings that resist the dragon’s influence as it is. The Sylvari are (to my knowledge) incorruptible. At least as far as dragons are concerned. The latest events with plant based dragons have people wondering about the extent of their incorruptibility, but as far as I know, no Sylvari has been shown to be working for the dragon in any direct way. Although, I’m sure the nightmare court would probably get involved simply to spread chaos or whatever it is they do. But not because of dragon mind control.
This also makes me wonder about the nature of the tree. The tree sprouted at a pretty opportune time to be in conflict with the elder dragons. Was this purposeful? If not, why is this the first Pale Tree anyone alive today has heard of? And if so, was it purposefully grown to combat the dragons in some way?
As for what the tree spawned, I don’t know. I guess they’d be dragon looking things.

Guess there aren’t enough skritt there to know they’re building the thing upside down. Or that they’ll need a LOT of dowsing rods.
Also, what can we infer about the billboard translation (another thread on this forum https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/lore/lore/Silverwastes-Skritt-Billboard-Translation/first#post4598840)
It indicated an “old boat” and a “new boat”.

Why? Are the Skritt expecting the water to return?

My question is, how did those ships even get there? There is no water route there now, so the ships were not sailed by Krytans any time in recent history, and even in the time of Guild Wars 1 and before, there were absolutely no rivers long, deep, or straight enough to sail a sea-faring vessel that far into the heart of the jungle. Not to mention, overhanging jungle vegetation would prevent any such voyages even if the rivers at some point just magically swelled to the size of large lakes to allow large boats through.
Then there’s the fact that they’re underground, where the water table likey used to be. Those caves would have been submerged, and I don’t think even the best Krytan ships could sail under water unless something was terribly wrong. (The only submersible vessel I know of is a Charr designed submarine sitting near a heart event)

So, its apparent the ships were moved (fairly recently, as they’re probably modern/semi-modern Krytan ships) to the location after the caverns were discovered. But why? Did the Skritt just not have anything better to do one Saturday? That’s a hell of a distance to drag a boat.

I wouldn’t mind doing it, and if this was for Guild Wars 1, I’d probably jump on it! But I don’t feel like I know enough about Guild Wars 2 lore to do it. Most of my submissions in this forum are questions, and not answers, so that’s a good sign I don’t know enough. But someone should do it. It’s probably stressful, and people are mean online, but I think it’s a nice idea.

That’s kind of the point I was making >.>

To be fair, that same page says (excluding the “biology” part):
to make a copy, representation, duplicate, or close imitation of:
That’s the kind of reproduction seen here.
But as for reproduction as a process minions can do, I’m going to go with no, they can not. In certain cases special or high ranking minions can create spawn from something that is not already a spawn (make destroyers out of rocks, make undead minions out of living…anythings) but can not within themselves replicate cells into a separate living entity and thrust it into the world. Some might carry or incubate said living entities for a time, but probably not reproduce them in a way biological things tend to do.

Not down here in the south they can’t! (Not sure you can tell, but I typed that in my most southern accent)
But one would think the Norn and humans would be the most likely to have offspring, even if it was just a one-off thing, like crossbreeding tigers and lions to make a sterile liger or whatever. Unless what the Kodan say is true, and norn are just degenerated Koda. Then I guess humans and norn are as compatible as humans and polar bears :/

Eggs are neat because they already have all the nutrients required already tightly packaged inside of them for the growing hatchling to consume. It’s basically the bird/reptile’s placenta inside the egg. So, if energy was required for the dragon to hatch, those little eggs are just giant balls (ovals? tetrahedrons? pointy things?) of energy. Kind of makes me nervous about carrying one for a brief few moments in GW1 :/ The thing must be like a mini nuke.
But all that aside, those eggs certainly are weird. They’re hatching at odd intervals, not all at once, like typical eggs. Did Glint lay them all separately hundreds (or even thousands) of years ago, hundreds of years apart? Or are they being hatched at specific times for specific purposes?
If it’s the latter case, why was one hatched at the end of the EotN expansion? So far, we’ve not seen or heard of that dragon at all, so either he’s making some grand entrance as a mature(ish?) dragon later on, or he was just completely useless and is chilling on a beach somewhere waiting for this whole dragon business to blow over. This other egg seems awfully important. It’s probably going to hatch soon, so why pick now?

There’s one glaringly obvious flaw in the argument “An organized army should be able to take it down, they could just dig out its head and chop it off.”
The point in EotN was enforced again and again that the Norn had no concept of organized armies. It would not have happened. If they fail, they simply think “I must get stronger” not “I should get an organized group of individuals to form a cohesive unit”. That would detract from the heroes story. And that’s just not Norn. It can be hard for humans to imagine, as everything we do henges on being social and working together, but it’s just not a concept Norn grasp easily.

People have actually know the world was not flat for MUCH much longer than most people believe. It’s generally accepted that most people thought the world was flat as late as the 1490’s, or about the time Christopher Columbus sailed across the ocean. This is false. The only people who thought the world was flat even in that age were the absolute lowest minority of the least educated peasants in third world countries. For context, there are people in developed nations TODAY that think the world is flat (and that the round earth theory is some wild conspiracy). That being said, I still feel like the world’s shape is just a common knowledge thing not worth bringing up in the Tyria world. I don’t recall ever stumbling across people in real life in mid conversation about “You know what I love? The roundness of our planet. Boy, that roundness sure is neat”. Ancient Greeks surmised the shape of the world pretty much as soon as they were able to wonder about stars, as did the Aztecs. (I know the Aztecs came loooong after the ancient Greeks, but they were at about the same level of development or less by the time anyone from Europe discovered them.)

I feel like we as players could be the only ones who don’t know the shape of the world. Most likely not toroidal though, as at SOME point you’d be able to see the planet stretch upward onto the horizon. Not to mention see a landscape in great detail when looking through a telescope (like the one in Orr). Unless the Tyria we know is only a REMARKABLY small spot on the outer edge of the planet.

Also, in GW1 Cantha, there was an outpost with intricately designed stellar maps, and an “astrolarium” in Istan. Between all these people obsessing over stars, I have a hard time thinking that someone hasn’t come up with a general shape of the planet.

How limited was that power though? It failed to corruptt Jora, but we don’t know why. It definitely corrupted Svanir though. And after that incident, it’s likely any thoughts of going out to investigate the lake would have been delayed. By the time any brave Norn decided to see what had caused all the trouble, Drakkar could have been more concious, or even more attuned to the Norn mind after successfully infiltrating Svanir’s.

Just being near its sleeping carcass corrupted people. That’s how the whole Nornbear mess came about. Tampering with it would have sure done something. And Jormag was most certainly not awake at that time.

I’m with Tobias on this one. I’m sure we can imagine thousands of lore-related reasons why we don’t see them, but at the end of the day, I think it’s just a matter of “we don’t need them, so we won’t bother to make them in the game”.

I’m pretty positive you could see the giant creature under the lake in almost any graphic setting, so it was obviously supposed to be seen. And do we know for certain they didn’t try to kill it and fail? As Konig mentioned, digging it out of the ice would have surely led to corruption. And the Norn avoiding the area was a large factor, sure, but very un-Norn like. I think it’s likely that the area being “cursed” kept away the common Norn rabble most of the time, but a mysterious powerful entity would probably just seem like a challenge to the more adventurous ones. I think it’s more likely that some Norn would have certainly tried to kill it, but failed. Something like Drakkar would take the cooperation of pretty much every Norn in the known Shiverpeaks and probably some other species to permanently kill, but that sort of cooperation is not the Norn way. The small hunting parties that probably went to investigate this mysterious lake entity probably became the few corrupted Konig mentioned.

Short version: They probably DID try to kill it at least once or a few times, but failed.
You just don’t hear about it because history commonly only mentions SUCCESSFUL ventures, not failures.

But didn’t Abaddon also have a hand in the Flameseeker Prophecies? If that were the case, it could just make the whole prophecy seem less like “seeing the future” and more like seeing the most incredibly obvious outcomes of the obvious actions. Glint may just be a master at predicting cause and effect, and not so much seeing time as an extra dimension or something. She’s old, she’s seen the entirety of the God’s time on Tyria, she knows how they’d operate, its unlikely she wouldn’t be able to make accurate predictions of events that involve their actions. She also knew of the powers lying about Tyria (such as the scroll that exploded Orr and the Cauldron that rained crystalline death on Ascalon). She’s basically the only conscious creature alive in Tyria that knows all the pieces of the puzzle. Or she was.

All things considered, all the parts of the Prophecies are just the most obvious factors of past occurrences. But then hindsight is 20/20, so I could be wrong on that. Also, the prophecies were not perfect, which is further proof that she could not see EVERYTHING. Maybe she failed to predict the remaining Mursaat (although, at this point it’s just as likely that they’re not going to come back in any significant way. They could be so crippled to the point of irrelevance that she just didn’t bother to bring them up) because at the point you fulfilled the prophecy, they stopped being a part OF the prophecy, and thus subject to the billions of random occurrences that would be impossible to foresee.

Basically, maybe she didn’t see the future when making the Prophecies. Maybe to her, the Prophecies were just a glaringly obvious set of actions that SEEMED impossible to foresee to anyone who didn’t have Glint’s knowledge.

It’s not uncommon for members of a genus to look widely dissimilar from other members. Take the real world Rock Hyrax for example (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_hyrax). It looks pretty much like a Guinea Pig with kitten y teeth, but it’s actually biologically more like a small elephant, as those are its closest relatives.
Either way, my point was that saltspray dragons as a whole, in my opinion, are probably no more special than any other drake. At the very least, probably not connected to any dragon. Cantha has a number of odd animals that on occasion become uniquely powerful among their counterparts. There was a Kirin spirit among regular Kirin, a saltspray dragon (aside from Kuunavaang) that was part of a side quest that could speak and lay curses on people, and the celestial creatures that were basically ascended forms of their common peers.
I never saw the thing about Rotscale and other bone dragons. (why don’t we see any in Orr? I’m not saying their absence disputes the claim, I’m just curious. I think they’d be neat to see once in a while)
And wasn’t it once stated in an interview or something that Kuunavaang, while special, has absolutely nothing to do with Glint? And also, which source says Glint had free will before she was corrupted? She seemed a bit too fleshy to me to be a pure construct, but I just never saw anything directly state she was not just either a construct or a horribly mutated random species.
And I like the idea of the dragons being members of a mostly dead species, but the only issue I have with it is that they all look so totally different :/ Enough to be members of multiple species, but that could just be a product of “I need extra limbs to properly manipulate this excess power” so they just forced themselves to grow in odd ways. If you can raise a continent with an undead army, I’m sure you can figure out how to sprout some extra tails

So far, the closest thing to a dragon species we’ve seen or even heard about were the Saltspray dragons in Cantha, and possibly the undead dragons from the Prophecies campaign. Everything else can be distinctly identified as a “drake” which usually look more like iguanas or Gila monsters than anything really draconic. Saltspray dragons may be a complicated case if Kuunavaang turns out to be any bit as special as Glint, but I think it’s more than likely that Saltspray dragons are just “drakes” that have the unique ability to fly, and Kuuna is just a special version of them. She’s probably not connected to the elder dragons any more than your common Saltspray dragon or Reef Drake.
As for reproduction, all of the above are likely nothing special. Normal old fashion (probably reptilian) reproduction that can’t be shown without upping the game’s rating. As for the Elder dragons, they’d probably have a hard time breeding at all, since the closest things to them biologically (if biology even applies for some of them) are the other Elder Dragons, and as far as we know, they’re just as likely to kill each other on sight as they are to light some candles and set the mood for egg-making. But who needs needy, useless, resource eating babies when you can just make ready-to-kill-for-you minions? (Just my thoughts)

I think mounts are completely useless in a game where you can fast travel close to anywhere at any given time, but if I could ride a dolyak, I’d be happy.

Hmm. I guess I don’t remember. I’ll go ahead and assume that wasn’t the case.

I know this has nothing to do with anything important going on right now, but I’m trapped at a boring desk job at night. (First world problems)

I have a question about what the Crystal Desert was like during the last rise of the dragons or before.
I know according to standard lore centered loosely around Abaddon and the Margonites, the Crystal Desert used to be a sea until Abaddon was cast into it, boiling away the sea to reveal the Crystal Desert and Desolation. Or was it more like the legend that the Gods raised the land for something to live on? (Something non-human. Likely the Forgotten) The GW1 wiki says both at the same time, but I’m guessing the legend part is just another “Humans believe this, but don’t believe them as they’ve been wrong about just about everything so far” situation

But what I’m really curious about is the bit where it says it’s mostly made of tiny crystalline shards instead of the standard grains of sand you’d normally find in a desert.
I know Kralkatorric likes to haunt the Crystal Desert, and that he tends to turn everything he flies over into Crystals. Is it possible that all of his currently infected areas MAY end up looking like the Crystal desert under the right conditions? And it being formerly underwater, how would that have affected things? Did he always like the desert/sea area? It may explain why Glint had her base there. Or why Kralk is staying there now, and not returning to his former resting spot up north. Or is it just a complete and total coincidence that the desert is made of crystals and Kralk never actually went to the desert until now, and mostly to kill Glint, who hid there?

On to more current matters, what is the extent of the dragon’s influence on the Crystal Desert? Most people say travel is mostly impossible to Elona due to Joko’s un-dead army and probably now, the dragons, but if that were the case, why exactly was Queen Jennah so worried about getting so flooded with refugees that she had to keep the gate at Ebonhawke closed? Impossible travel conditions aren’t exactly conducive to floods of vagrants.
As a side-note, I really hope the statues are still there! The Crystal desert was always my favorite area because of stuff like that.

Possibly a side note, but do we have any idea of what the Asura thought of the human “gods” before they met humans? I mean, it’s generally assumed (probably safely) that they had absolutely no concept or idea of the 5/6 gods before the Asura were driven to the surface, and immediately upon learning of them just dismissively categorized them as a part of their preconceived system of Eternal Alchemy. But is it possible that in their studies of this “alchemy” they already saw or speculated on these (what they admittedly state as large) “parts” of the alchemy that they later came to identify as the human gods? If that is the case, it’s entirely possible that Gadd’s writings are based on a bit more research than just some random “bookah’s” rantings on magical meta-physical beings that he just heard about after being thrust into the surface world. It would also explain why someone like Gadd would bother writing about the human gods at all, and not dismiss them as silly fairy tales. We know that the Gadd in question (assuming it’s the same one, which seems likely) had a very dim view on humans and human intelligence. They’re disposable labor, like screw drivers. That talk.

It does look completely different :/ I was wondering about that too. But it is the same area I was in (Area just above Dry Top, as my map image shows). But White Mantle makes sense. I’ll go with that until someone says something different.

Now that we are in the northern half of Dry Top (and I have done the appropriate “I was totally right” dance :p) I’d like to know who built those ancient looking pillars and walkways. I know lots of areas in GW1 were inaccessible due to not being able to jump or scale walls, but I don’t ever remember seeing anything at all like those in any of the Maguuma areas.

I really don’t think alternate entrances really have much to do with it anyways. We know the map is small, and that there is a ton of already-made space that makes up the entire northern “half” of the Dry Top map. Space that is clearly set up to be used for something eventually (and not requiring hours of wriggling through empty cells and invisible walls like many off map locations). Making another entrance from Brisban would be nice and convenient, but they don’t really have to have one. They could have the entire map alongside Brisban and still only keep the one entrance they have. But I completely agree it would be nice to be able to move around with significantly less reliance on Zephyrite skills.

The people who name things in this game seem to like the word “Leviathan” a lot
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Leviathan
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Leviathan
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Leviathan_
and
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Leviathan_

That’d be nice. My biggest complaint (that I can think of) is that we have all this cool stuff lying around and absolutely no explanation as to what it is most of the time. I remember getting all excited when the game first launched, rushing to places I visited in GW1, such as Granite Citadel only to get there and it’s just a point of interest on your map. No one to tell me what the citadel was, what it used to be or who used it and for why. Just 2% to your map completion.

Sorry. I think I worded that wrong. By tear-down conditions, I was referring to the dervish skills in which the dervish removes enchantments from itself and causes conditions on enemies. Although, I think there were a couple of skills that removed enemy conditions in exchange for some other horrible effect, these were not the skills I was thinking about. Might be neat though. I mean, if condition spammers are really so common, having someone remove a few conditions (5 stacks of bleeding here and there) in exchange for some worse condition or a party buff would be cool.

Dry Top (sorry I didn’t specify)
First two are just pictures of the area taken not TOO far apart (but those are not the same sand mounds you’re looking at in those pictures) and the third is the map location. As of now, that little blue spot of water actually has no water. I don’t know f that will change or not once the map is accessible. I have a few more pictures, but those two above pretty much show what the whole area is to look like. I’ll post some others if people want. But the release is only like 3 days away

Really the Gods not being around as much doesn’t have to eliminate the dervish class altogether. That’s like saying God (or insert real world parallel deity here) doesn’t directly intervene on the Earth, therefore, there should be no priests. Why should they be there at all? (I’m kind of reaching out on that analogy. I promise it sounded more relevant in my head) The Dervish can be just as pious as he/she was before. Its not like humans as a whole became atheists. I’d even say it doesn’t have to get rid of the avatar skills. We already HAVE avatar skills for human players. AND we get to summon Balthazaar’s war hounds. We didn’t even get that in GW1 time when the Gods were supposedly more active. The Dervish faith might be tested due to the increased distance of their gods, but any truly pious person would just take it as a test of their faith and may end up being stronger for it. Inversely, you could just go the other route and say they found strength in themselves, but that just doesn’t seem like a Dervish thing to do. Could be neat though. Mechanically, the tear-down enchantment/condition system the Dervishes eventually got in the original game could really be a nice thing to play with in Guild Wars 2.

I know this topic has essentially died, but it was brought up before where the next area would be. (I figured Id post it here, instead of make a new thread about it) but I’m pretty sure it will be north. Not that it should come as a surprise. But seeing as how I’ve actually been to the northern half of that map (thanks to some mesmer who is far better at wall scaling glitches than I am) and it is a HUGE area full of explorable looking spots. And it’s pretty, as most landscapes in GW2 tend to be. Just thought you al should know. Im going to go back to taking screenshots of it while I’m there.

It was years ago when I read this, but wasn’t there some strong speculation that the Mursaat (or at least A Mursaat city) was along the Ullen River somewhere? On the GW1 map there’s a spot next to Riverside Province that we never get to see, so we probably don’t have to go TOO terribly far from where we are to see a Mursaat City. Also, the unexplored area immediately west of the Thaumanova Reactor seems to be the area where most of the Ullen River is today. It could just be one spacce below Dry Top if they make it an oblong sort of map like Lornar’s Pass or something. Or just extend Dry Top to the south and put a map next to it. Dry Top is much smaller than other maps as it is now.

It was removed? Sorry. I guess it’s been a longer time than I thought since I’ve seen that story.

I’m also inclined to believe the Gods had absolutely no reason at all to think that the dragons would not wake up again eventually. And if preventing their awakening was actually something they were concerned about, they might have pushed to seal more magic, if not all of it (provided they had the means to do so.)
As for the “why should we tell you, you’re just a mortal” bit, it makes sense, but why would the Gods invest so much time and energy into humanity just to throw them to the wolves. Or dragons. Whatever. I get that they want humans to stand on their own, but seriously? NO warning or insight? Now the Gods seem less like benevolent deities bringing humanity into the magical world of Tyria to live lives of enjoyment, and more like cruel experimenters tossing people on top of voracious all-powerful monsters just because “screw it. I’m a God. What are you going to do about it”?

I recall meeting her beforehand at some point during my personal stories, but I don’t remember the details. Something about Trehearne introducing you (apparently he helped her with something and she was indebted to him), but it was hastily brought up as kind of an aside. They really didn’t imply that she was important in any way until much later during the Orr missions, so the moment was very easy to overlook or forget.

I feel it’s unlikely that Khilbron had anything to do with Zhaitan, or that Abaddon’s plans did either. It seems to me that it was purely coincidence that both Khilbron AND Zhaitan had power over undead things. But I do find it strange that Abaddon, or subsequently Kormir, was silent about the Elder Dragons. I would only be a little surprised if the other Gods completely failed to research the planet they settled and simply didn’t know that ultra-powerful deathbringers were sleeping just underfoot. The dragons were already dormant when they arrived. But I would have figured a God known for knowing what isn’t normally known (and pretty much anything that is) would definitely have some information on them. And from what I gather, Abaddon might not have been that bad of a guy before the whole rebellion thing and being imprisoned. He was willing to give magic to the people, but not a little forewarning about an enormous extinction event? What reason did he (she/they) have for keeping it hidden? That just seems rude.

I was worried about that too. I mean, granted, new critters have popped between GW1 and GW2, I don’t think we’ve seen anything new since GW2’s launch. Adding a new creature would be odd and out of place unless we got new areas in the north or something. But then we don’t have hippos in Tyria, do we? But we have a mini hippo.