Guild Wars 2

spoj.9672:

Anchoku.8142:

I would rather the current meta builds were nerfed. I was insta-kicked from AC as soon as I joined and they saw Necro.

Yeah because nerfing classes always makes people happy.

Buff necros and make better and more complex content is what we need.

I think he meant nerfed meta builds by buffed bosses and mobs

I can’t see well of DARKness being an ice field instead of DARK xD maybe one of the wells could be a smoke field

I would rather have wail of doom being blast finisher than locust swarm. imagine blasting a smoke field just to get revealed 3 secs later

i would rather have dark path as ride the lighting, there is even an animation for that (see risen mobs in cursed shore)

Bhawb.7408:

1. we summon Spectral beings from the Underworld

3. We don’t summon undead, nor would we from a lore point of view

1) technically, Shade is a Nightmare
3) Actually if you’re talking about the lore, Killeen in the first novel, Ghosts of Ascalon, animated dead warriors of Ebonhawke iirc, and for sure she animated a skeleton under Divinity’s Reach – an animation (undead), not a creation like our flesh golems. I highly suspect our bone fiend, minions and fiend are undeads too, undead devourer, wind rider and ummm undead pikachus? XD

Taku.6352:

Afaik dagger build is top dps if you are capping vuln and might from others but DS is better if you lack vuln/might.

Yup. I run mostly with bad pugs and I’ve noticed a better perfomance after swapping to DS build, apart from that it’s so satisfying to actually have more complex rotation where you actually have to look at cooldowns etc

You can’t have “maximum condi build” and use staff. sorry.

this is the build:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/condi-necro-pve-1/first#post4674727

I use vampiric related traits if I am soloing something and need sustain (example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ1wIgRQplc)

Wilendar.1450:

Sublimatio.6981:

learn to dodge and stay in melee to actually deal damage

yeah you get me wrong… I’m not sayin I wasn’t meele or I can’t dodge, All I’m sayin that I often only meele in random party, so I’m forced to use ranged weapon because my build is not tanky, to not die as only target for a boss

When I pug and they range, I still melee and live. Except mossman, where I basically always play it safe. Bosses usually cleave/aoe so it doesn’t matter how many people stand at him – everyone has to dodge anyway. I don’t range lupicus if pugs in my party do.

learn to dodge and stay in melee to actually deal damage

Gw2 already has useful skills that could fit necro perfectly.
Toxic Krait feedback is basically mesmer feedback but looks pretty deathly.
Lupicus bubble is another example.
As for blast finishers, I still think marks should be detonable. Axe 3, Warhorn 4 are great candidates. And for a “bot” role, ANet could tweak signet of undeath to ressurect defeated people as a necro-exception-cheater-of-death role xD

Dub.1273:

Now do it without dodging!

Don’t tempt my nomad ele!

yea and all stealth consumables too… really uncomfortable change

Pro tip:

Press the key only once

I would rather have our ressing signet work on defeated players. Necro really should feel like a master of death, taking control of ghosts, cheating destiny etc

maybe something like this? :P

marks wont work when a boss turns from green to red, he would have to step on them. i tried with jotun stargazer :S
i wouldnt waste lich form cd for a burst, I’d rather use golem xD

spoj.9672:

Aenesthesia.1697:

spoj.9672:

Wait for greatsword.

GS + D/F rotation incoming. ;3

what? no! GS +D/WH

You release your locusts, swap to gs and close distance with the mobility skill all greatswords have. Do a gs rotation to hopefully blast firefields and spread tons of vulnerability, and swap back to dagger to dps the enemy down. It’s the mechanic I think would work best.

Warhorn isnt as strong as focus. You would probably start with GS + D/W and cast locust swarm before getting in combat. Then swap out the warhorn for the focus and engage.

for more tryhard also 3 marks from staff before combat!

Zomia, if you want to do dungeons, then I highly recommend reading this guide: http://dulfy.net/2014/06/30/gw2-necromancer-pve-guide-by-spoj/

Senpai.8176:

Sublimatio.6981:

in pve what matters is damage – kill fast or be killed. so go for power/precision/ferocity stats.
well of suffering will burst enemies down.
most of the minions are useless.
signet of spite passively increases power.
blood is power gives you might.
if you want minions then the healing one and flesh golem (elite) are dps boosts (though lich form elite skill deals more damage overall)

thank you very much

np I wouldnt recommend listening to the other posts. another great tip for you would be to slot bloodlust sigils in all of your weapons (and air, you can have 2 sigils per weapon set, so for example if you use dagger, warhorn and focus, slot bloodlust sigil on your dagger, and give air sigils for the offhands (you dont need 2 daggers) it helps with leveling. stat priority is power>precision>ferocity (on lvl 80 you want assassin armor pieces and berserker weapons and trinkets, runes of scholar, saying in advance). necromancer has biggest hp pool in the game so don’t worry about soaking damage, especially in open world pve where mobs are weak, though it would help you to dodge their attacks even if they do nothing – this will make you ready for high level content, reflexes etc. dodging is most important later on.
at 80 lvl sigils change to force sigil + night/undead slaying/justice/frailty/energy sigils
basically look over here, it’s very helpful: http://dulfy.net/2014/06/30/gw2-necromancer-pve-guide-by-spoj/

in fact they are almost everywhere bottom tier. even in wvw roaming I can’t escape a fight from basically everyone. every class has leaps or ‘blinks’. our only blink skill has 1 sec cast time, gg. supposedly i should stay and destroy everyone on my path while being an immobile class, too bad I have no stability/dodgeskills/blocks/invuln. 10/10 for design

I liked it more when we had our own Death Shroud UI, looked so cool. ANet could reimplement it and leave greyed/desaturated skill bar which we can’t use in DS.

I’m not leaving house since many years, too afraid of some car FGS rushing me against a corner.

in pve what matters is damage – kill fast or be killed. so go for power/precision/ferocity stats.
well of suffering will burst enemies down.
most of the minions are useless.
signet of spite passively increases power.
blood is power gives you might.
if you want minions then the healing one and flesh golem (elite) are dps boosts (though lich form elite skill deals more damage overall)

superior rune of scholar is the best damage option

Character name: Sublimatio
Account name: Sublimatio.6981
Game mode: PvE – Dungeons
Server: Far Shiverpeaks
Number of Necromancers: 3

I disagree with OP, imo autoattacking mobs to death it’s tremendously boring, I’d like normal mobs to force me to fight for my life. I like it harder, the combat system allows for great action and its wasted by autoattacking.

i would rage if anet would do sth like this. map completion should be time-consuming

that’s not a bug… everytime your autoattack skill changes you stop attacking, didn’t you know that?

my favourite party composition is:
1. necromancer
2. necromancer
3. necromancer
4. necromancer
5. necromancer

fracture.9754:

slow clap

No, I will not stop whining on the forums about necros, because I want to play mine in dungeons

plz read yourself again, even few times. why are you here seeking attention instead of playing your necro in dungeons like u want? i play my necro everyday in high-end pve and i dont feel the urgency to whine on forums about my class anymore. ANet is alrdy quite aware of the uselessness of this class, especially now after AngryJoe mentioned it in front of Colin’s face

Zenith.7301:

spoj.9672:

Signet of spite doesnt work in DS.

But…. it’s not like the necro has any better options than signet of spite and you’re still bound to use your weapon autoattacks every so often.

You use both wells and BiP for DS build

passive-aggressive person detected. executing escape plan

Maybe you weren’t using proper rotations if it took you so long, or you were using staves and scepters? :d maybe bad traits. I can’t believe it took you 40 min with good performance, if this took 1 hour with kitten builds and healing lupi forever.

You’re supposed to all go DS build 62006 if you want the most optimal speedrun with 5 necros (i might be wrong here)

Malchior.1928:

1. Auto attack + chill
2. Burst skill: Well of Taunting (decent dmg + taunt)
3. Movement skill: Ride the Lightning (in sepia)
4. Block
5. Ground targeted AoE Stun

that would be perfect, thought i would add some boon sharing on some of these, as well as blast finisher

Bhawb.7408:

Gryph.8237:

It would make wvw hilarious. I don’t like this fight, I’m gone. Can you imagine the response?

Yeah. It’d be exactly like fighting Warrior, Thief, Mesmer, or Elementalist.

my evil sylvari, disregarding all life

xDudisx.5914:

Sublimatio.6981:

there should be a party leader system, it provides the least amount of griefing possible

We had one before. It was so problematic that players demanded changes. Party leader the way it was before just gave the leader the ability to grief and kick everyone.

i play since beta and believe me we didnt have party leader system.
gw1 had party leader, though it wasnt advanced system cause game didnt need it. in gw2 i would rather see advanced party leader system – with afk check and automatic party leader distribution if leader is afk

there should be a party leader system, it provides the least amount of griefing possible

you can travel through time in the mists so this topic is irrelevant

ANet, please add gw1 necro idles, they were perfect. just perfect. I literally felt the forbidden power surging through me as I watched my old necro <3

For Great Justice!

Just spam distortion from signets and dodge, you dont need to blink

Because you know, I can understand that it’s a boss and it has to be more resistant, but when I break the resistance, I want to have a choice of how to control him. And that’s what we have now.

I don’t like the new defiance. If it’s true and it doesn’t let us decide whether we want to launch/pull/fear/stun etc then it’s just a broken immersion. Let’s say some people break the bar and last hit to break the defiance is guardian hammer Banish. now imagine the effect of this Banish isn’t an awesome flying bag of meat/plant/whatever, but a predetermined effect like interrupt or stun.

“abomination CHAMBER”

anyway, you just go aggro them and use wp and run back to abo zone. they will teleport to you

Cloudz.6890:

Dirame.8521:

Bhawb.7408:

Because we’ve already seen a set of thief-looking skills on one of the videos, and Shiro is the most “legendary” thief in GW.

Err… actually Vizu is the most Legendary Thief. She backstabbed Shiro.

To be fair, even though she killed Shiro it was his scream that made the Jade Sea turn to Jade. Also there’s Echovald Forest. Long after her death his still had an effect on the world, and still (presumably) does.

you’re making some lore mistakes.
1) she didnt kill him, she disarmed him and made him vulnerable. he was killed by archemorus and saint viktor with his own blades
2) it wasn’t HIS scream/power. it was just unleashed dwayna energy (most likely corrupted by abaddon) that he absorbed from emperor when he assassinated him (the energy was given to the emperor at the Harvest Ceremony and you can see the whole process on gw factions trailer)

spoj.9672:

Spectral skills have very little use in PvE as lifeforce is easy to come by. The only reason to use them is if you need swiftness from spectral walk or a stunbreak.

I love spectral walk when doing puzzles cheating death is so immersive

Now that you mention it, I wonder if rev’s juggy will have its own projectiles

Malediktus.3740:

I dont agree. I want everyone to see my almost 27k AP. If anything achievement points should become more visible. Maybe put them on nameplate, too.

You want everyone to see you’re an achievement farmer? It’s not impressive. I’m happy that the mastery system will show mastery points instead of lvl