I just came up with a super idea!!!!! Account bound elite progress just like all the 1000 other progress tracks!!!! So 400 unlocks everything for every character on your account!!!!
Gosh I’m so awesome!!!!
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How about you stop complaining about people complaining?
^This.
Forums are designed specifically for customers as a medium of communication with peers and designers on both aspects they find positive and negative. That is their sole intended purpose.
I just skip threads discussing issues that don’t concern me, if I have a differing opinion I express it in that thread and move on.
Last thing I would do is create a thread attempting to invalidate their right to complaint or effectively say “I disagree so shhhhh”. That’s just bad for the community as a whole.
For the record I have no issue with this system, then again I have 2 mains and largely ignore my alts unless bored. If I had say 5+ mains I had slogged away on maybe I’d feel differently. In saying it’s a bit early to throw toys out of the cot on anything, they could introduce a whole new system at any time to change how we get these.
Lol at the gif
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We’re just tired of the goal post, constantly moving. “Oh hey, I saved up 100g for that shiny new precursor!” Economy Change! Precursors now 1000g!! “Oh wow, it took awhile, but I finally got that map completion, and all the hero pts!” Screw You, DO MOAR! :’(
Its just disheartening. We were under the impression that veteran players would already have enough pts, if they did map completion. Now, it just feels like a punishment, more than some excuse to play more. As if we wouldn’t play as much… We just want to play the content, in our elite spec.
The goal post NEVER moved. Someone datamined some stuff, and everyone took it as gospel. When did Anet ever change the goal post on this?
In fact, by giving us 10 points for every hero point in HoT, they’ve made it very easy to level up your elite specialization.
They didn’t plant the goal post until now so it comes off as being intentionally shady.
Well that’s great for people who like pve… Buy hey look, you can level up 400 times per character in wvw right?
Always remember vayne, you can always measure success by asking yourself “is it fun?”. For many players this will not be considered a success story filled with “fun”.
Also, I guarantee the percentage of map completion/achievement “stuffz” vs the amount of lvl 80 characters in the data base is extremely low. Why? Because it’s human nature to want to do fun activities and map stuff is not fun stuff. I’m pretty sure there a a hundred or so players who really really love to visit the same vista a billion times, but for most, anything map related is chore done out of need, not desire.
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Feedback is essential to the development team so they can make a better product for the end user. We are the end users so we will provide our feedback thanks.
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I think everything should be unlocked when we hit 80 and we should have the best statistical gear by then. Grinding should be left to cosmetics. Good idea???
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Guys and gals, you can sugar coat ranger all you want and make number graphs, but there are reasons why ranger is behind other profession at the meta stage in every area of the game. The devs know it too. Irenio acknowledged it on the twitchcon stream. Yes, you can use ranger, but it’s not a meta contender sorry…
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Unless I am mistaken just to unlock half of the training line, we need 212 hero points?
It’s 400 points total to unlock everything in an elite spec training line – I just can’t remember off hand how many points folks have currently if they have done all the existing ones, but it’s right around 200. The rest you’ll need to earn in jungle to unlock the deeper skills/traits/etc. in the training line.
You only need 60 hero points to begin using your elite spec, the points you spend after that continue to unlock more skills, traits, skins, etc.
Again, hero challenges are worth 10 points each in the jungle. So no you don’t need to go do 200-400 jungle challenges.
A Portrait of the Player as a WvW Regular
- Two accounts (actually I have three but only purchased HoT for these two).
- Twelve level 80s
- Two above 60 hero points
- Only one with 100% map completion
- 75% of toons under 20% map completion
- 5904 combined total gaming hours
- No Legendary
- No full sets of ascended gear
- Purchaser of gems with real cash
- 1892 combined WXP rank (677 and 1215 respectively)
How can you help me? Can I hire you to get the hero points for my toons?
Anet should totally cater to you, because your case is the same as 90% of the playerbase.
There ya go, even more reason to change it!
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Unless I am mistaken just to unlock half of the training line, we need 212 hero points?
It’s 400 points total to unlock everything in an elite spec training line – I just can’t remember off hand how many points folks have currently if they have done all the existing ones, but it’s right around 200. The rest you’ll need to earn in jungle to unlock the deeper skills/traits/etc. in the training line.
You only need 60 hero points to begin using your elite spec, the points you spend after that continue to unlock more skills, traits, skins, etc.
Again, hero challenges are worth 10 points each in the jungle. So no you don’t need to go do 200-400 jungle challenges.
Unless you’ve been playing since launch and you spent most of your hero points early on. What exactly do we get for 60 points?
With 60 points it means that you only need to get 340 more to fully unlock your elite spec!
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Just wonder how many “oops so sorry” moments druids will be faced with when CA form is on its 10 second cool down and staff skills just won’t be up to the task
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Crafters are a funny bunch,
We’d rather craft than eat our lunch.
The housework, it can always wait.
It will be there on some other date.
No craft is left to be untried,
No creative thought to be denied.
Craft supplies – they’re everywhere!
We’re never caught without a spare.
Can our time be better spent,
Than practicing our creative bent?
Let it be said when we are done,
We worked, we laughed, we had lots of fun.
by Debbie Garrett
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So disappointing… There were tons of players like me who prepared for these elites, planned builds and theory crafted, made ascended armor sets and weapon sets, slotted their gear with runes, sigils, infusions, bought gems to convert to gold to buy a bunch of stuffz…
Months and months and months of hype, streams, pr… Then the big letdown… Really kills the excitement…
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skills should not be about learning how to work around poor design. If this design is so good, then let’s give it to all swords and see how the player base reacts.
Additionally, enjoy your rooting and wonky movement while a sword wielding Revenant tears you apart…
Ranger sword could be infinitely better and there is not a valid reason why only 3 skills can’t be fixed or replaced… 3
It’s not about ‘working around poor design’ BUT, rather choosing a weapon that is designed for what you’re trying to do. This sword is awesome and is perfect at what it does.
Yeah, those Revenant swords are pretty awesome and perfect!
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This is just flat out terrible. Core gameplay should NOT be gated behind a grind. Some of us play 9+ characters. You want to shut cosmetics behind grinds? You want to shut toys and vanity items behind grinds? You want to shut proportionate rewards behind grinds? Sure. Cool.
But it’s just plain bad design to shut core gameplay for the expansion specs out behind a long grind.
If you can unlock all the traits and skills in short order, that’s fine. It’s ok for the special skins to then take another 200+ points to unlock. But people are going to despise running around for the first week with a half-finished traitline and missing abilities.
Feeling forced to dash off into the jungle and skip content and rush hero points so I can fill out my trait line is going to directly reduce my desire to play GW2. When I think “I feel like playing my Mesmer now that Chronomancer is available” and then remember I need 100+ more points to unlock Chronomancer abilities and traits and the only way to get those points is to grind WvW or to skip jungle content in favor of focusing on hero challenges, I may well just not bother. Because this issue won’t just come up for Chronomancer. It’ll come up for Reaper, and Daredevil, and Berserker, and Tempest. It’ll come up for every single spec.
This is an incredibly alt-unfriendly design decision.
Considering the number of people who have told me I am a terrible forum specialist because I disagree with ANet’s choice to make elite specializations so expensive, I am just going to quote, +1, and emphasize this post here. This post perfectly reflects how I feel in the matter.
It reflects how I feel too!
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I’m pretty sure a great compromise, given the news today, would be to allow players to purchase notarized scrolls with gold as well. That’s definitely more than fair.
I sure all of you, especially John Smith, would love to see gem sales up and have another amazing gold sink!
Make is so Colin!
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I’m pretty sure a great compromise, given the news bomb today, would be to allow players to unlock things with gold as an option on a 1g to 1 hp basis. That’s definitely more than fair. Am I right?
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At least twelve billion, but each forum hero point will give you six million hero points because arbitrarily bigger numbers are better. Especially when it devalues all the old numbers.
lol
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