Guild Wars 2

I actually play a tanky sustain mesmer most of the time, and it works out great.

I run a mix of Magi and Cleric gear so I’ve got a decent spread of power and precision, with a TON of healing power. Also I like to self-shatter for heals on my main build (which is temporarily on the shelf until the devs remove the .25 shatter global CD) so I can REALLY tank it out

Toxyn.9608:

TheComet.6471:

my quick curiosity question, seeing these crowns and a couple of the things there, are we going to be seeing some ultra-expensive weapon and armor skins for the more hardcore completionists and achievement junkies? (I have some guildies who are big on map exploration and completionism, they’d have a ball with it)

I’m hoping that the “ultra expensive” items are at least precursors so that players have a sure way of (one day) obtaining them.

eh that’d be a bit exploitable, maybe a box with a randomized exotic in it? That way there’s a chance for a precursor, putting more in circulation, while also giving us a chance at some of the fun named exotics too (IE: Ambrosia is a hilarious focus I’m buying for St. Patrick’s day when it gets close <3)

my quick curiosity question, seeing these crowns and a couple of the things there, are we going to be seeing some ultra-expensive weapon and armor skins for the more hardcore completionists and achievement junkies? (I have some guildies who are big on map exploration and completionism, they’d have a ball with it)

given that they also brought up guesting, the only area this affects really is wvw.

stop bandwagon jumping if it’s really that much of a problem to you.

I’ve actually got a Nostromo on the way in the mail, should be in any day now…

I’m using a Naga so I have 12 buttons in use for the game already for my skills on my mouse, curious what you guys would suggest for the nostromo then

edit: oh wow kitten I just now read the most above mine

Asuka Shikinami.5462:

Thanks for the video, I have never tried phantasm spec but this looks interesting. What do you think of Phantasmal Haste? I can see it would be hard to fit in while retaining the 30% damage for phantasms from the power/healing lines, cutting 5 of healing and dueling could work but the pistol cooldown trait is great for the range bonus…

Btw, in PvE, Knight = Toughness (major), Power/Precision (minor). The PvP stats are somewhat different for some reason…

Phantasmal Haste is a waste imo, the difference in attack frequency is just too minor to really add up to anything (especially when you consider you can just cycle your phantasms and the ones used in this build already attack frequently enough)

As for the cutting 5 from the healing, that reflection is better than you’d think, nobody expects it in wvw <3

So with the global CD on shatters killing my main self-heal build, I have to shift to something else for a little while to compensate.

This is an all-melee phantasm build that uses the Altruism runeset’s bonuses along with the Charr Battle Roar to maximize the damage output of phantasms while providing a mountain of defensive bonuses for you and your illusions.

Let me know what you think, this build has been pretty trusty in Orr and wvw so far.

Who was that thief I was fighting as my mesmer last night with my guildie necro?

All those wardens….that was hilarious :P

I’m dabbling in a phantasm build at the moment, I’m using the Altruism runeset with Mantra of Recovery to give all of my phantasms 3 stacks of might and some fury on command, works nicely so far

I enjoy setting Skritt on fire, just so I can say “That’s some hot skritt!”

-officer in a guild called "Skrittical Hits-

my current build only runs 10 in dueling, with 30 in inspiration (love that tree!) and 30 in illusions

The build only uses shatters offensively with Cry of Frustation to stack confusion on the target and retaliation on myself, so I don’t really need to have nonstop clones out. That and it focuses on keeping phantasms out for damage and regen.

The shatters are used mainly for iPersona+Restorative Shatters <3

Berserker is a whirl finisher, I use it regularly through a feedback bubble to splatter confusion on a crowd.

Not sure on the Warden, but I’d imagine they’re the same, I’ll have to do some testing later (usually runs S/S or S/T)

Posted an update on the current healing bunker build (list it directly under the first one if you could, it needs the first video to stack on this one)

NOTE: If you havn’t seen the original video, there is a link to it on the description for this one on Youtube.
This is an updated version of my Healing Bunker build, built around sustaining through fights and using Retaliation and Confusion combined with straight damage to win a fight.

also F1-4 to heal is alot of fun

Let me know how you guys feel with it if anyone tries it out, it’s done wonders for me over the last few months

3 plastic toy sandwhiches with one real one mixed in between them

This patch actually has a pretty severe effect on my current build, I use iPersona illusionless shatters as a source of healing with the grandmaster inspiration trait, so having this .25s CD actually drastically hurts my ability to burst heal.

I’ll probably have to drop my rata sum runes and go back to the flock for awhile to compensate until the bandaid is removed :/

Sneaky Norn is still one of my favorites here on Kaineng

Snow Leopard isn’t rooted, but yeah I’m aware.

I have an idea of what I want to do with the class for them, probably going to illusionary leap cripple just before I transform to make it easier to land my attacks.

I’ll work out the nitty gritty when I get the skills unlocked and actually get going with them

well kitten #8230;I’ll probably have to go after condition damage sharper images bleed stacking then if I want to do what I want to do, my intentions were to stack heinous bleed on a single target.

I’ll have to dig around for precision/condition damage gear and focus on phantasms :/

the utilities bit or deceptive evasion when shifted?

Well I did that mesmer player thing where I rolled ANOTHER mesmer as an alt, this time a Norn Mesmer.

What I want to do is use Become the Wolf combined with Deceptive Evasion/Mirror Images to put an unholy amount of bleed down field, but I don’t know if Deceptive Evasion or utilities work when shifted.

If anyone knows how it works, let me know, I’d love to terrorize players with a swarm of werewolves or wereravens

just bumping this thread to make people aware of this little glitch.

I want to see people pulling this off in pvp, kitten XD

Yeah this is an awesome, but obviously glitched behavior.

Sword clones created with illusionary leap all leap on the target when I cast illusionary leap again, even if it fails to create a new clone.

imo it’s a pretty awesome glitch, just looks vicious and may actually have application since they all stack their cripple.

Clones created by other means don’t seem to do it however.

ps: SO MUCH CHAINSAW XD

Play whatever YOU want to play.

Personally I’d suggest if you’re going confusion/glamour, make yourself a little tanky and use some retaliation if it’s relevant to your build, this’ll let you sustain through other class’s burst potential

having clones dodge when the player does could be an interesting grandmaster trait now that I read and think about it

I used to run Dwayna runes on my original healer tank mantra build, if you run Mantra of Healing, you can get ALOT of use out of the regen triggers and with the signet of inspiration you can spread it to everyone else if you don’t have someone doing that in the group.

I can defend most of these skills you bring up <_<

-Mantra of Pain: people use this with the restorative mantras for constant AoE healing to the group. Now with the 3s chant time, it’s more effective than before.
-Mantra of Confusion: This is designed for interrupts, not long-term daze, and it works beautifully on that. This is a Must-Have for me when running AC.
-Mantra of Concentration: it could use work, yes, but it’s a stun breaker you can use twice before cooldown.
-Signet of Inspiration: The power behind this is in it’s active, not the passive. Now with 3x might per shatter, you can give huge amounts of boons to your team.
-Signet of Midnight: it’s ANOTHER stun breaker, plus it’s basically free Blind+Confuse on everyone near you when traited.
-Signet of Illusions: again, the active. it resets your shatters. INCREDIBLY power.
-Cry of Frustration: This is a much more defensive pvp oriented skill, you need traiting for it’s maximum effect. I personally use it to pile on a huge amount of retaliation on myself while putting 2x confusion on a target per illusions.

Now as far as your main gripes, while yes we are usually on the short end of the stick, we can compensate by working with our combo fields (which for some reason everyone seems to ignore).
Torch could use a little work but you need to remember the phantasm for torch is a SUPPORT phantasm, use it to gain retaliation and put a little confusion down and not for straight damage. The Prestige is a leap finisher and a blast finisher in one

The Duelist is okay on it’s own, but that phantasm combos on EVERY SHOT, and with sharper images and the fury trait, will stack ungodly amounts of bleed from critical hits.

Scepter is….scepter. I agree it’s not good still and the autoattack needs work. People use this to bomb 3 and switch out, which is unfortunate.

I’m going to stop now before I go out of hand, but imo you’re making a bigger deal out of something you seem to just not know how to use. Granted you had some valid points, you’re blowing most of this out of proportion.

just go up a tier already DR <_<

ps: they have over 100k on the other two servers combined right now

Lordryux.9785:

yea the only condition that actually kills in spvp is bleeding so the confusion stacks and everything else is really bad thier it does about half the damage it would do in WvW.. sadly idk why that is but yea. Actually now that i think about it confusion in WvW from wat ive seen can hit like 1k+. in spvp i can barely get over 500 even with full condition spec + runes x.x

Actually confusion was BUFFED for pve due to enemies attacking much less, wvw uses the same patches as pve

I’m kinda curious about this myself, I notice Kaineng gets put into that situation alot (we’re typically blue), although a part of that may be night cappers around when I get on

Personally I’d love to see the Iron Legion sniper rifles to be a siege weapon for something like 20 supply, they basically act as ballistas without the knockback

They’re stationary so they’d make sense imo.

Other than that, maybe an explosive cache that gives players demolitions kits from the Claw of Jormag event for sieging gates. These could be limited to 10-15 uses for 10-20 supply

I’m going to go out on a limb here….don’t kill me…

Guardians.

As a Mesmer player every now and then I find one of these that understands how to shut down our everything (thanks to the patch which made phantasms damn near impossible to cast vs players), put up walls we can’t pass, and just generally sustain through even my sustaintastic build.

It’s a scary thing

edit: every 4th player is a mesmer? I’m sorry, but I can’t help but laugh at that. I’ve watched more mesmers jump ship to other classes than I can count over the last 2 months, I highly doubt there’s even that many of us left, and those who try to start a mesmer tend to get thinned out by about level 30 before the tier 2 traits kick in

I’ve never tried it in spvp, but it functions well in wvw since eventually you hit a point where your opponent’s skills are on cooldown and you can lash back while they either faceroll/AA spam or try to tank the hits

I havn’t played any sPvP yet since wvw is my favorite distration, so I couldn’t say much there other than the confusion is about half as potent as elsewhere

I’m throwing my bump in here, as someone full spectrum color deficient the only way I survive some of these dungeons is to fully memorize trap locations through trial and error, not fun when I hit those gauntlet run sections where you have to cross traps only while they’re faded out and there’s no way around.

Gabe Newell protect my soul
I’m sorry but I can’t stop laughing from that image

^Crash Landing!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Healing-Bunker-Build
That’s the original post, the build has been altered a little bit to include heavier use of retaliation and confusion (I use Feedback instead of the signet of midnight now for the combo field, and I use 10 in duelist for sword cooldown reduction, switch mantra heals with glamour cooldown)
ps: I should really update that thread with my revised setup, it’s been improved on big time

I also came across a what-if? thread I posted last month about distortion and invulnerability, if you want to bunker by means of being untouchable
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/How-long-can-we-be-untouchable

Razer Naga here, sure it has 21 buttons on it……ermagherd so many buttons! XD

I have never touched the keyboard to use my abilities and have a much quicker reaction time while moving as a result, I can’t play without it

I’d say it depends on your racial option. If for example you’re running a charr like my case, get the Charrzooka (it combos with EVERYTHING we do and knocks back all day long <3)

Norn mesmer the shapeshift may be more valuable first depending on the moveset

<—- This guy

You’re going to be bunkering with heals and protection more than taking the hits though, I built myself around having retaliation and confusion active during the entire fight and healing anything I take, as well as opening a fight with a radiation field from my runeset to reduce the effectiveness of enemy heals until I clear the poison

I’ve also run a phantasm regen/protection bunker build where I create a “bubble” of regen with 2-3 duelists where I can just sit and take an absurd amount of pain before any of it makes a dent

“My flat ground phantasms just failed to Obstructed, and now everything is on cooldown.”

….so much rage.

I’ve run this build before, it’s not half that bad and it a good team support setup.

You need full healing gear however, I’d suggest a mix of Cleric’s and Magi stats gear (you’ll have a decent amount of damage too).

Your main healing mantra will be Mantra of Pain with its 1 second cooldown, you can also run Rune of The Flock/The Water to give your Mantra of healing an AoE heal as well.

imo the only thing that holds back this build is the 5 player limit on heals. Unfortunately the game loves to heal your clones and phantasms instead of the rest of the team in many occaisions, so you might not heal the player that needs it most if your clones are all up.

Yeah Feedback bubbles destroy karka using their projectile attacks.

I wonder if feedback on breeders functions like breeder in AC where you can reflect the hatchlings and have control of them? XD

you need….alot of healing power….

Personally I find that anything under 1k healing power at 80 isn’t too effective, the way it scales is something akin to 1024+(Healing Power*0.4) for minor heals, such kittenter heals, mantra of healing heals (although they can trigger rune heals on top of them), and other minor healing abilities.

My heals are around 1500 or so on my current setup, which works nicely, if I’m running Rune of Water/Flock I double that heal for mantra uses

That’s a little walkthrough I did recently on my build, I’ve tweaked it since then by swapping out Signet of Midnight with Feedback to rock the Ethereal fields with the Prestige (for AoE chaos armor) and illisionary leap when it feels like working properly. I also (while still accurate to the video) changed my 10 in domination to 10 in duelist for sword cooldown reduction and vigor on crits, letting me switch out vigor on shatter with glamour cooldown reduction.
ps: I mention spamming all shatters at once in the video, while it is a great heal-burst, I actually use Mind Wrack and Diversion as my main healing shatters, and save CoF for when I need to pile on retaliation. The only exception is if a thief is about to backstab me I’ll pop diversion for an interrupt and keep them locked up for a moment

I’m putting this up because I have yet to see another self-shatter-heal healing bunker mesmer ingame and it got me wondering if there are any builds out there people have used that you just never see.

So to start things off: Self-Shatter healing bunker build! I use shatter skills on top of Mantra of Healing and phantasms for a constant stream of minor heals to keep my life total up and let me sustain through an opponent’s burst, leaving them vulnerable when everything is on cooldown

I get a laugh every time someone gripes about the game “dying”

There was this thing that happened back in september oh what was it called….

Oh yes, “school”.

Given that the main demographic of this game is probably the 15-25 group, us students (ranging from middle school to college like myself), aren’t around as often to actually play the game.

We’re still here, just too busy to play most days

I run a build that doesn’t use illusions for any damage o.o

The only change here is the tooltip, if you ever read the effect you got while using BF it has always been Blur and not Distortion. They’re the same thing just Blur doesn’t work with distortion traits, probably to prevent wonky and/or broken combos from traits

Confusion doesn’t tick per attack, it ticks per skill use, so only the initial use of any skill with do it.

Retaliation on the other hand can be a beautiful thing if you can tank it