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bokkieskitten.8023:

Oh goodness people….

Dynnen.6405:

Tibstrike.2974:

Dynnen.6405:

Tibstrike.2974:

Dynnen.6405:

Tibstrike.2974:

Jay.7546:

You know I’m sorry but I just can’t get jazzed playing a server like FA or SBI who has a wvw population so large that they can not only cap both their opponents BLs but still run a large zerg in EB and have enough to man towers in their corner.

It’s not an impressive feat of skill or show of ingenious tactics. It’s like watching a tsunami from the shore. Nothing skillful about brute force. I know they have to keep active by map watching and waiting for us to attempt upgrades before they let out zerg #8 of 40 to just cap and run.

Any money I would have spent to buy gold for upgrades and siege is not leaving my pocket now. How were transfers allowed to beef up certain servers and hurt others after leagues were set. I mean, IOJ lost a couple guilds that provided manpower that enabled us to be ranked silver then left before the league started. Not that those guilds were exceptional but they had bodies. Any subtraction from IOJ was an addition to FA. So it was a double hit in the number dept.

Trading deadlines are set in professional sports for a reason. If not, the teams with the best record towards the end of the season would just cherry pick stars for the playoffs. That is basically what happened here. And it has hurt IOJ and other servers I’ve talked to because who wants to play against a blob and just spend good money after bad when all that is happening is those two servers are just getting more and more transfers damaging the rest of the league. Sort of short sighted if you ask me.

TLDR: Nothing that anyone who plays WvW doesn’t already know. I’m sorry we left IoJ, but we did what was best for our guild. You guys are putting up a mad fight however. Don’t sell yourself short.

I heard the sausage on the bandwagon tastes great!

I’m not entirely sure what you are referring to, but since these are internet forums I shall asshme the worst. It always seems to be about who is the bandwagon server doesnt it? And its always not the server you are on. Funny how that works out.

Anyways. Remember people, this is how the forums go:

First Place: Nice work 2nd and 3rd! Keep up the good fights! L2defend better as well!

Second Place: kittening zerging 1st placers. Stop zerging so much! L2P with skill! Good fights 3rd place!

Third Place: kitten you all! And shut the kitten up 2nd place! You zerg just as hard! Keep working hard 3rd Place. All dem bags!

Note: Exceptions are made for NSP who are fairly consistent with L2Roam and L2P.

Feel free to adjust to your preferrex language!

Ofc it doesn’t matter to those who bandwagon, lol. But to those who don’t bandwagon it’s kinda lame that you left them out to dry like that.

Umm, yeah. Look to your own tag there. Bsty used to be a DR guild as far as I know. Great fighters all, but it looks like you guys “bailed” as well.

And the post by Vis about PvE patch day was a funny one, albeit true. IoJ has always had problems with large PvE patches. While they eventually come back by reset time, the borderlands become a wasteland with only a few defenders. And then the people who come back wonder why everything is paper. Personally, it is why I like FA. While people do play the PvE patches, it is not nearly as noticeable as there are many more WvW guilds who can cover the gaps that may appear. That is why I voted to move to FA.

Ofc we bailed, and we got some hate for it. But there is a difference from bailing on a server that can barely full queue a BL and a server like IoJ. I think we left the 10 SoCo people left in DR High and dry. then we got to repeatedly kill them when they xfered off DR a week later.

I mean we hated fighting IoJ because their insanely high oceanic night team. So no idea why you would leave that since ioj is clearly not a dead server.

Life, work, and a general sense of wanting a more WvW focused server are why we left.

RedPanda.7286:

Tibstrike.2974:

msbehnke.3960:

Joey.2769:

Jay.7546:

At least playing as under dogs has made us hone our skills and become much better players than we could ever have been otherwise.

When the numbers are close to equal we have prevailed more than lost because also rans in zergs never really have to fight, its done before they really make an impact.

Jay you couldn’t be farther from the truth. First, Aldrick and Vis are trying to be nice to you guys, but every time they offer an encouraging post you guys try to use it as a way to attack CORE for leaving. A bit pathetic don’t you think.

Second, in equal fights IoJ absolutely melts. For many groups people will stack and buff, but when we see IoJ we don’t even worry about stacking. Why you might ask? Well, you all are running zerk gear and crap for class composition. It’s amazing how many rangers I have seen in your groups. Re-roll or forever be a bag for the opposition. Sorry if the truth hurts but besides hiding in a tower/keep you guys are garbage only because you choose to be. Listen to guilds like MEND who know class composition and learn.

See you are a commander, your way with words must really “inspire” your troops on the battlefield. If you didn’t notice, IoJ is rocking 3rd and has been this whole season, so yeah, you may wipe us with your fancy pants solid zerg busting guild groups, again if you didn’t notice, you are in the #1 spot. From what I have been experiencing in IoJ, whether commanding or not, we are doing fine and having a fun time at it. We love our rangers, we love our thieves, and we love our independent pugs. They can roll whatever gear/professions they want. We are IoJ, and we are here cause we love our server and our population.

I take offense to that. I’m absolutely certain CORE could wipe you the same way if we were on Anvil Rock.

I don’t know how your reaction relates to his post, Zha. I didn’t get the impression that he was saying that CORE is only good because they’re on FA at all. All he’s saying is that we on IoJ value our community for who they are and not for what they play, which is true. Right now, IoJ doesn’t need to be yelling at players to stop playing their preferred profession because it’s not the meta right now.

Right now, IoJ needs to be working on rebuilding, on working together as a server, and on establishing a new wvw infrastructure, which is exactly what IoJ is doing from what I’ve seen. He’s saying that, despite the persistent beliefs to the contrary prevalent in this forum, IoJers still enjoy being on their server and fighting together. That’s what matters to us. We go into wvw to have fun and to play the game, just like all of you. We’re not miserable, even though we’re in last place.

I’ve been having lots of fun.

I was trying to make a joke. Obviously I failed.

That said, community is great and all but sometimes you need to look at what you are playing to make progression. CORE started out with the same mindset and then we progressed to better builds and composition and it worked wonders. That allowed us to improve our play and get to where we are now. Get a good guild, make friends, and stick to your priorities.

msbehnke.3960:

Joey.2769:

Jay.7546:

At least playing as under dogs has made us hone our skills and become much better players than we could ever have been otherwise.

When the numbers are close to equal we have prevailed more than lost because also rans in zergs never really have to fight, its done before they really make an impact.

Jay you couldn’t be farther from the truth. First, Aldrick and Vis are trying to be nice to you guys, but every time they offer an encouraging post you guys try to use it as a way to attack CORE for leaving. A bit pathetic don’t you think.

Second, in equal fights IoJ absolutely melts. For many groups people will stack and buff, but when we see IoJ we don’t even worry about stacking. Why you might ask? Well, you all are running zerk gear and crap for class composition. It’s amazing how many rangers I have seen in your groups. Re-roll or forever be a bag for the opposition. Sorry if the truth hurts but besides hiding in a tower/keep you guys are garbage only because you choose to be. Listen to guilds like MEND who know class composition and learn.

See you are a commander, your way with words must really “inspire” your troops on the battlefield. If you didn’t notice, IoJ is rocking 3rd and has been this whole season, so yeah, you may wipe us with your fancy pants solid zerg busting guild groups, again if you didn’t notice, you are in the #1 spot. From what I have been experiencing in IoJ, whether commanding or not, we are doing fine and having a fun time at it. We love our rangers, we love our thieves, and we love our independent pugs. They can roll whatever gear/professions they want. We are IoJ, and we are here cause we love our server and our population.

I take offense to that. I’m absolutely certain CORE could wipe you the same way if we were on Anvil Rock.

Dynnen.6405:

Tibstrike.2974:

Dynnen.6405:

Tibstrike.2974:

Jay.7546:

You know I’m sorry but I just can’t get jazzed playing a server like FA or SBI who has a wvw population so large that they can not only cap both their opponents BLs but still run a large zerg in EB and have enough to man towers in their corner.

It’s not an impressive feat of skill or show of ingenious tactics. It’s like watching a tsunami from the shore. Nothing skillful about brute force. I know they have to keep active by map watching and waiting for us to attempt upgrades before they let out zerg #8 of 40 to just cap and run.

Any money I would have spent to buy gold for upgrades and siege is not leaving my pocket now. How were transfers allowed to beef up certain servers and hurt others after leagues were set. I mean, IOJ lost a couple guilds that provided manpower that enabled us to be ranked silver then left before the league started. Not that those guilds were exceptional but they had bodies. Any subtraction from IOJ was an addition to FA. So it was a double hit in the number dept.

Trading deadlines are set in professional sports for a reason. If not, the teams with the best record towards the end of the season would just cherry pick stars for the playoffs. That is basically what happened here. And it has hurt IOJ and other servers I’ve talked to because who wants to play against a blob and just spend good money after bad when all that is happening is those two servers are just getting more and more transfers damaging the rest of the league. Sort of short sighted if you ask me.

TLDR: Nothing that anyone who plays WvW doesn’t already know. I’m sorry we left IoJ, but we did what was best for our guild. You guys are putting up a mad fight however. Don’t sell yourself short.

I heard the sausage on the bandwagon tastes great!

I’m not entirely sure what you are referring to, but since these are internet forums I shall asshme the worst. It always seems to be about who is the bandwagon server doesnt it? And its always not the server you are on. Funny how that works out.

Anyways. Remember people, this is how the forums go:

First Place: Nice work 2nd and 3rd! Keep up the good fights! L2defend better as well!

Second Place: kittening zerging 1st placers. Stop zerging so much! L2P with skill! Good fights 3rd place!

Third Place: kitten you all! And shut the kitten up 2nd place! You zerg just as hard! Keep working hard 3rd Place. All dem bags!

Note: Exceptions are made for NSP who are fairly consistent with L2Roam and L2P.

Feel free to adjust to your preferrex language!

Ofc it doesn’t matter to those who bandwagon, lol. But to those who don’t bandwagon it’s kinda lame that you left them out to dry like that.

Umm, yeah. Look to your own tag there. Bsty used to be a DR guild as far as I know. Great fighters all, but it looks like you guys “bailed” as well.

And the post by Vis about PvE patch day was a funny one, albeit true. IoJ has always had problems with large PvE patches. While they eventually come back by reset time, the borderlands become a wasteland with only a few defenders. And then the people who come back wonder why everything is paper. Personally, it is why I like FA. While people do play the PvE patches, it is not nearly as noticeable as there are many more WvW guilds who can cover the gaps that may appear. That is why I voted to move to FA.

Dynnen.6405:

Tibstrike.2974:

Jay.7546:

You know I’m sorry but I just can’t get jazzed playing a server like FA or SBI who has a wvw population so large that they can not only cap both their opponents BLs but still run a large zerg in EB and have enough to man towers in their corner.

It’s not an impressive feat of skill or show of ingenious tactics. It’s like watching a tsunami from the shore. Nothing skillful about brute force. I know they have to keep active by map watching and waiting for us to attempt upgrades before they let out zerg #8 of 40 to just cap and run.

Any money I would have spent to buy gold for upgrades and siege is not leaving my pocket now. How were transfers allowed to beef up certain servers and hurt others after leagues were set. I mean, IOJ lost a couple guilds that provided manpower that enabled us to be ranked silver then left before the league started. Not that those guilds were exceptional but they had bodies. Any subtraction from IOJ was an addition to FA. So it was a double hit in the number dept.

Trading deadlines are set in professional sports for a reason. If not, the teams with the best record towards the end of the season would just cherry pick stars for the playoffs. That is basically what happened here. And it has hurt IOJ and other servers I’ve talked to because who wants to play against a blob and just spend good money after bad when all that is happening is those two servers are just getting more and more transfers damaging the rest of the league. Sort of short sighted if you ask me.

TLDR: Nothing that anyone who plays WvW doesn’t already know. I’m sorry we left IoJ, but we did what was best for our guild. You guys are putting up a mad fight however. Don’t sell yourself short.

I heard the sausage on the bandwagon tastes great!

I’m not entirely sure what you are referring to, but since these are internet forums I shall asshme the worst. It always seems to be about who is the bandwagon server doesnt it? And its always not the server you are on. Funny how that works out.

Anyways. Remember people, this is how the forums go:

First Place: Nice work 2nd and 3rd! Keep up the good fights! L2defend better as well!

Second Place: kittening zerging 1st placers. Stop zerging so much! L2P with skill! Good fights 3rd place!

Third Place: kitten you all! And shut the kitten up 2nd place! You zerg just as hard! Keep working hard 3rd Place. All dem bags!

Note: Exceptions are made for NSP who are fairly consistent with L2Roam and L2P.

Feel free to adjust to your preferrex language!

Jay.7546:

You know I’m sorry but I just can’t get jazzed playing a server like FA or SBI who has a wvw population so large that they can not only cap both their opponents BLs but still run a large zerg in EB and have enough to man towers in their corner.

It’s not an impressive feat of skill or show of ingenious tactics. It’s like watching a tsunami from the shore. Nothing skillful about brute force. I know they have to keep active by map watching and waiting for us to attempt upgrades before they let out zerg #8 of 40 to just cap and run.

Any money I would have spent to buy gold for upgrades and siege is not leaving my pocket now. How were transfers allowed to beef up certain servers and hurt others after leagues were set. I mean, IOJ lost a couple guilds that provided manpower that enabled us to be ranked silver then left before the league started. Not that those guilds were exceptional but they had bodies. Any subtraction from IOJ was an addition to FA. So it was a double hit in the number dept.

Trading deadlines are set in professional sports for a reason. If not, the teams with the best record towards the end of the season would just cherry pick stars for the playoffs. That is basically what happened here. And it has hurt IOJ and other servers I’ve talked to because who wants to play against a blob and just spend good money after bad when all that is happening is those two servers are just getting more and more transfers damaging the rest of the league. Sort of short sighted if you ask me.

TLDR: Nothing that anyone who plays WvW doesn’t already know. I’m sorry we left IoJ, but we did what was best for our guild. You guys are putting up a mad fight however. Don’t sell yourself short.

Man. Are we posting EB zerg wiping clips now? Hold on. Let me brush off my set. It’s gotten quite dusty as its sat in the closet. Maybe we can contact some of our friends in SIC from BP to help post some more EB clips.

Man. These should be some good videos.

Tynan.6279:

Tibstrike.2974:

BLKNovember.5620:

Tibstrike.2974:

BLKNovember.5620:

Visirale.6097:

IOJ schooled FA tonight in keep defense in EB. Frankly, I’m mostly just proud of IOJ. We were disorganized and running multiple tags most of the night. FA is already in the karma train mentality and is getting soft I think. We had the map queued, and IOJ had (I’m guessing) 30 people on the map? Great job IOJ.

FA could be in for some rude awakenings once leagues are over and we’re at a population disadvantage again.

You seem to be forgetting that this is FA’s 8177168th week into leagues and the only server even close to a legitimately equal opponent we met in battle was SBI. You expect us to take every aspect of these match ups seriously? I don’t expect you to understand, but we’ve been frustrated with how little amount of competition we are getting, I am not an offensive commander, I have never been, yet I was in EB last night attacking a keep, what does that say to you? And that little comment about you being there when we fought BG, but not me? PRO has been in FA since the start, and so have I. I’ve been there commanding in FA BL since we were getting smashed by CD, TC, and YB because we just didn’t have the coverage. I was there before the IoJ transfers that gave us the numbers we needed to stay competitive, and I will be there even when the server begins to die, if it ever does. I admit, I was out of my element, doing something I don’t usually do, but at least I tried and learned from it. I do not, however, appreciate tagless CORE members throwing down siege keeping us from building what we need to get built, you were in our TS, we see your names. And I do not appreciate you making assumptions and starting something when you have no prior knowledge about me or my guild. You can come back with a better attitude about things and try to work as a team, or leave the server because if you can’t then it’s clearly not for you.

Woah. Hold on there dude. No need to get all worked up. Yes its the middle of silver league and we are stomping left and right. But that doesn’t change the fact that FA has gotten a little sloppy. Thats fine. Happens to everyone in matches like this. I’m sorry CORE has been going a little stir crazy but like you said, does it really matter? We have history with IoJ. That happens too.

Vis was making an observation and complimenting IoJ on their defense. They are taking advantage of FA just as FA takes advantage of higher tier servers I imagine.

Yes CORE hasn’t been here long but we are having a great time of it and appreciate what FA has got interms of guilds and community. Its great stuff. So I’m sorry that we have upset you. Keep up the good work.

I can appreciate his forum post, I know they may have some foundation and reason. I was there, I understand. And IoJ did pull off a great defense, there is no doubt in that. I simply do not think his comments and attitude in map chat were warranted.

Sounds fair. And I know he posted first, but please bring it up with him in private messaging first. I understand what a call-out on the forums can bring, but problems are best brought up with the individual or his guild first. Let us just move on from this and cap IoJ’s stuff tonight, if they still have it anyways.

Then remind your ranks that Map chat is not the place!

Sorry. We tend to view map chat as anything goes and team chat is for tactical stuff.

Banzie.5248:

FA Logic: Skill=Coverage and Numbers.
SBI Logic: Skill=coverage and Numbers.
Every Other Silver League Server: Skill= Great Roaming, Open field fights, defense, offense. etc.

Guise. The elitists that like to win and only care about ppt are obviously every server but FA and SBI. Our skill level is all just kitten compared to them. Thats why we’re on these servers, cause we’re bad.

Oh Karn…silly person you. FA logic Skill = Numbers, coverage, and skill.

I’m actually kind of insulted for FA guilds. While I am obviously biased and would say CORE is the best, I can say that other guilds on FA would have just as easy of a time wiping MEND in the open field. And all of them in situations of even numbers.

Dynnen.6405:

Tibstrike.2974:

BLKNovember.5620:

Visirale.6097:

IOJ schooled FA tonight in keep defense in EB. Frankly, I’m mostly just proud of IOJ. We were disorganized and running multiple tags most of the night. FA is already in the karma train mentality and is getting soft I think. We had the map queued, and IOJ had (I’m guessing) 30 people on the map? Great job IOJ.

FA could be in for some rude awakenings once leagues are over and we’re at a population disadvantage again.

You seem to be forgetting that this is FA’s 8177168th week into leagues and the only server even close to a legitimately equal opponent we met in battle was SBI. You expect us to take every aspect of these match ups seriously? I don’t expect you to understand, but we’ve been frustrated with how little amount of competition we are getting, I am not an offensive commander, I have never been, yet I was in EB last night attacking a keep, what does that say to you? And that little comment about you being there when we fought BG, but not me? PRO has been in FA since the start, and so have I. I’ve been there commanding in FA BL since we were getting smashed by CD, TC, and YB because we just didn’t have the coverage. I was there before the IoJ transfers that gave us the numbers we needed to stay competitive, and I will be there even when the server begins to die, if it ever does. I admit, I was out of my element, doing something I don’t usually do, but at least I tried and learned from it. I do not, however, appreciate tagless CORE members throwing down siege keeping us from building what we need to get built, you were in our TS, we see your names. And I do not appreciate you making assumptions and starting something when you have no prior knowledge about me or my guild. You can come back with a better attitude about things and try to work as a team, or leave the server because if you can’t then it’s clearly not for you.

Woah. Hold on there dude. No need to get all worked up. Yes its the middle of silver league and we are stomping left and right. But that doesn’t change the fact that FA has gotten a little sloppy. Thats fine. Happens to everyone in matches like this. I’m sorry CORE has been going a little stir crazy but like you said, does it really matter? We have history with IoJ. That happens too.

Vis was making an observation and complimenting IoJ on their defense. They are taking advantage of FA just as FA takes advantage of higher tier servers I imagine.

Yes CORE hasn’t been here long but we are having a great time of it and appreciate what FA has got interms of guilds and community. Its great stuff. So I’m sorry that we have upset you. Keep up the good work.

Lol @ stomping.

Far superior numbers? Check
far superior coverage? Check

quick guys! Claim the idea that we are stomping before they realize we tanked our ppt to get into the silver leagues so we would have an easier time fighting for that all important ppt so we can say we are stomping people.

Such a cute mentality to have. Like a bag of puppies cute. Is it so hard for ppt loving zerglings to admit they are ‘stomping’ through sheer numbers and coverage?

I was specifically referring to the PPT game. As I was not on FA until right before leagues started I have no idea what FA did prior to this, though from what I have heard they had just gotten done with a 6 or 7 week cycle against T1 servers and had bleed a couple big NA guilds to JQ.

I do know for a certain fact that all the guilds on FA are using this as prep for when leagues are over. We are solidifying our core groups and working on strategy and just melding as guilds so we can take on the inverse relationship we have been experiencing lately. People may complain about FA coverage (which to be honest is absurd for Silver League) but from what I have heard of Gold, its full maps all the time. I’m looking forward to it.

If you would like more even fights, feel free to contact any number of guilds on FA. I’m confident that they would be ecstatic to face you in even numbers. Many of us are GvG guilds as well. Drop us a line.

BLKNovember.5620:

Tibstrike.2974:

BLKNovember.5620:

Visirale.6097:

IOJ schooled FA tonight in keep defense in EB. Frankly, I’m mostly just proud of IOJ. We were disorganized and running multiple tags most of the night. FA is already in the karma train mentality and is getting soft I think. We had the map queued, and IOJ had (I’m guessing) 30 people on the map? Great job IOJ.

FA could be in for some rude awakenings once leagues are over and we’re at a population disadvantage again.

You seem to be forgetting that this is FA’s 8177168th week into leagues and the only server even close to a legitimately equal opponent we met in battle was SBI. You expect us to take every aspect of these match ups seriously? I don’t expect you to understand, but we’ve been frustrated with how little amount of competition we are getting, I am not an offensive commander, I have never been, yet I was in EB last night attacking a keep, what does that say to you? And that little comment about you being there when we fought BG, but not me? PRO has been in FA since the start, and so have I. I’ve been there commanding in FA BL since we were getting smashed by CD, TC, and YB because we just didn’t have the coverage. I was there before the IoJ transfers that gave us the numbers we needed to stay competitive, and I will be there even when the server begins to die, if it ever does. I admit, I was out of my element, doing something I don’t usually do, but at least I tried and learned from it. I do not, however, appreciate tagless CORE members throwing down siege keeping us from building what we need to get built, you were in our TS, we see your names. And I do not appreciate you making assumptions and starting something when you have no prior knowledge about me or my guild. You can come back with a better attitude about things and try to work as a team, or leave the server because if you can’t then it’s clearly not for you.

Woah. Hold on there dude. No need to get all worked up. Yes its the middle of silver league and we are stomping left and right. But that doesn’t change the fact that FA has gotten a little sloppy. Thats fine. Happens to everyone in matches like this. I’m sorry CORE has been going a little stir crazy but like you said, does it really matter? We have history with IoJ. That happens too.

Vis was making an observation and complimenting IoJ on their defense. They are taking advantage of FA just as FA takes advantage of higher tier servers I imagine.

Yes CORE hasn’t been here long but we are having a great time of it and appreciate what FA has got interms of guilds and community. Its great stuff. So I’m sorry that we have upset you. Keep up the good work.

I can appreciate his forum post, I know they may have some foundation and reason. I was there, I understand. And IoJ did pull off a great defense, there is no doubt in that. I simply do not think his comments and attitude in map chat were warranted.

Sounds fair. And I know he posted first, but please bring it up with him in private messaging first. I understand what a call-out on the forums can bring, but problems are best brought up with the individual or his guild first. Let us just move on from this and cap IoJ’s stuff tonight, if they still have it anyways.

BLKNovember.5620:

Visirale.6097:

IOJ schooled FA tonight in keep defense in EB. Frankly, I’m mostly just proud of IOJ. We were disorganized and running multiple tags most of the night. FA is already in the karma train mentality and is getting soft I think. We had the map queued, and IOJ had (I’m guessing) 30 people on the map? Great job IOJ.

FA could be in for some rude awakenings once leagues are over and we’re at a population disadvantage again.

You seem to be forgetting that this is FA’s 8177168th week into leagues and the only server even close to a legitimately equal opponent we met in battle was SBI. You expect us to take every aspect of these match ups seriously? I don’t expect you to understand, but we’ve been frustrated with how little amount of competition we are getting, I am not an offensive commander, I have never been, yet I was in EB last night attacking a keep, what does that say to you? And that little comment about you being there when we fought BG, but not me? PRO has been in FA since the start, and so have I. I’ve been there commanding in FA BL since we were getting smashed by CD, TC, and YB because we just didn’t have the coverage. I was there before the IoJ transfers that gave us the numbers we needed to stay competitive, and I will be there even when the server begins to die, if it ever does. I admit, I was out of my element, doing something I don’t usually do, but at least I tried and learned from it. I do not, however, appreciate tagless CORE members throwing down siege keeping us from building what we need to get built, you were in our TS, we see your names. And I do not appreciate you making assumptions and starting something when you have no prior knowledge about me or my guild. You can come back with a better attitude about things and try to work as a team, or leave the server because if you can’t then it’s clearly not for you.

Woah. Hold on there dude. No need to get all worked up. Yes its the middle of silver league and we are stomping left and right. But that doesn’t change the fact that FA has gotten a little sloppy. Thats fine. Happens to everyone in matches like this. I’m sorry CORE has been going a little stir crazy but like you said, does it really matter? We have history with IoJ. That happens too.

Vis was making an observation and complimenting IoJ on their defense. They are taking advantage of FA just as FA takes advantage of higher tier servers I imagine.

Yes CORE hasn’t been here long but we are having a great time of it and appreciate what FA has got interms of guilds and community. Its great stuff. So I’m sorry that we have upset you. Keep up the good work.

Sororita.3465:

ResetSmith.3719:

Q : How many players does it take to take down CORE?

A: Multiple guild groups, apparently.

http://i.imgur.com/qd6g37i.jpg

Glad to see Mend doesn’t have anything better to do, and yet still won’t GvG us. I guess Flappy’s mad, but only mad enough for choke points and numbers.

Hope you guys are having fun chasing us around instead of focusing on holding your own stuff.

Cant blame for people wanting to kill you guys after you left the server, its like when someone JUST WANTS TO PARTY AROUND and you jump them 20 v 1 -.- theyre going to want revenge, take that revenge and be satisfied.

Not much IoJ can do again FA anyways, last night i saw 3 thirty man zergs between cliff and the north camp….cant do anything against that.

-Starlight Honeybuns [BUNS] IoJ
Timelord to Lillium Honeybuns
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A satisfied necro >;}

Nah we get it. We are having a good time fighting everyone. MEND just amuses us the most due to Flappy’s single mindedness.

zBluRrYz.1347:

Tibstrike.2974:

zBluRrYz.1347:

Hahahaha . RET, HOPE, RAM. All 3 of you guys chasing us in DIE.

Maybe if you stop running away they will stop chasing you :P

Have to run and turn when we are fighting 4x our numbers. We Wiped your guilds. multiple times. Try again next time

Don’t really remember you wiping CORE with even numbers. But hey, we’ve been focusing IoJ for old times sake. Toodles.

zBluRrYz.1347:

Hahahaha . RET, HOPE, RAM. All 3 of you guys chasing us in DIE.

Maybe if you stop running away they will stop chasing you :P

Sororita.3465:

Banzie.5248:

Eh, I was rolling with the Mend group for about 4.5 hours, the rest of the time scouting. Any time I was with them no one teabagged at least.

can confirm that for the hills fight, i didnt anything like that.

i have 50 minutes of footage of standing in the lord room door way, watching fa and eb fighting outside though…

Yeah I don’t get why we did that. Nobody accomplished anything and with the numbers we had we should have pushed through the choke.I only counted one ballista and super ac in the lord’s room but there might have been more that I couldn’t see so its not like it was a complete death trap.

Honestly we should have rolled in because even if we died it would have given Ebay time to roll in with their group and catch you with the cooldowns down. Our commander wanted to fight Ebay though so what can you do.

Banzie.5248:

Visirale.6097:

Eh we do more than just wave. But /laugh isn’t our style. Mend was teabagging us last night so we’ve opened up our emote closet for some good fun. See you Seph!

Ehh? No Mend members teabagged last night that I’m aware of, Random people did but dont remember seeing any mend names doing it..

Nope. MEND was teabagging every time they killed me or any other CORE member. I mean, I know Flappy is an angsty and angry individual, but just cause I staked him with a bunny finisher doesn’t mean he has get kitten about it.

sephiroth.4217:

Bucket Lips.5017:

sephiroth.4217:

3/4 times I’ve been zerg tonight in half hour has resulted in the /laugh and /sit spam from FA…. You guys are bad, it’s not an accomplishment or anything special to kill someone in a 10:1 situation lol

So really, the jokes on you.

Don’t judge the whole server because of a few individuals.

I’m not judging off a few lol, I’m judging from the majority, feels like I am fighting SBI again with them emotes, was just hoping for a friendly match up that’s all but it seems like that won’t happen with FA in the match.

Might have been PPT. Those guys are doing it on purpose to get the response you just provided.

Banzie.5248:

RazGerb.6173:

Chris.2064:

RazGerb.6173:

Walnut, seriously? Of course all our keeps will flip in the middle of the night, It’s obvious FA is going to zerg us in the middle of the night to win. Still need some FA trash talk names .

yeah, because we will win just because of night caps….look what happened at reset. Equal forces.

It’s all about numbers man.
(Outnumbered in all BLs, FA zerging both BL spawns)

Wrong, FA never got IoJ hills— and a majority of our right side of the map for the 5.5 hours Mend was online. They continually wiped inside, as did Ebay.

Ebay instead of 60 on our BL, maybe they should go help yours as well. You wouldnt wanna let little ole ioj catch you in ppt.

And chirs hardly equal forces, Considering IoJ queue’d IoJ, and did NOT queue EB. So we only have 1 map full, idk about EB. But FA definitely had numbers on all 4 maps. ’

Guilds That Impressed Tonight:
~[DIE] From Ebay. God kitten tanky guys here. Yet their backlines pumps out damage, very good at keeping your back line alive. Really going to enjoy the rest of the week against you guys.
~[CORE] From FA, Sadly only CORE impressed me from FA. Any other guilds were stomped thoroughly and easily.

Before the numbers game is pulled out, We never had more then 30 on flappy at any one time, and many times less then that due to Queue. We did have pugs, So I would round our number to ~35 people most of the night except for Hills and Garri calls to the BL.

Good fights. Though I’m going to have to disagree with you on your numbers. MEND may have had 30 in hills, but in total it seems like most of the map was in there for the night. KoR and HARD would be out running but when your largest presence on the map is locked in a keep like that it defeats the purpose.

Granted, since it was a response to CORE attacking I understand, but you guys responded with a great deal more than us every time we engaged. Our best fight was in the camp when we were outside of your siege. It was relatively even in numbers.

Let us know if you’d like more open field fights.

Chaba.5410:

Aldrick,
I don’t know why you’ve been missing out. Seems like all I’ve been doing most of this reset is fight club. Getting tired of it even.

I just started working this week. So I haven’t been on as much. I was mainly referring to during NA prime and such. CORE has had a couple informal fight clubs zerged down this week. One was on Saturday night and another was a couple days ago. It was weird considering it was zerged down by FA. We were fighting TM and SPCA and were having a good time.

Liquid.9672:

I can almost guarantee you that they will reward both servers the same in the event of a tie. There’s really no other way to do it at this point, given the fact that it wasn’t spelled out ahead of time.

You are a god-like prophet. No more than 6 minutes and it was confirmed by Devon!

Delvoire.8930:

Visirale.6097:

So can we set up a real fight club for 8 pm server time tomorrow night? I’d say FA bl (easy access to the other two servers and we should still have wp’s) but 2 fight clubs there have been zerged down so far. Any ideas? Support/dissent? Leave your zergs and see how you do against one person, it’s a nice change of pace and can makes you realize how much you still don’t know about your class.

Move the Fight Club to a less likely spot to get zerged.. Jumping Puzzle or something.

Do fight clubs not happen in higher tiers? Cuz windmill has always been the location for any organized fighting.

Banzie.5248:

Tibstrike.2974:

Banzie.5248:

Tibstrike.2974:

Banzie.5248:

Tibstrike.2974:

Banzie.5248:

Mmm one more day til CORE farm <3

You seem particularly confident about farming us lol

One more day til that notion corrected!

We’re a lot better then when you last saw us, also got some more people to even the numbers with you all ;3 I’m sure you’ll win some and we’ll win some but the Mend hills set up shall provide us with more loot! Question is.. You never know when hills may flip blue too ;D

Awesome! Can’t wait to fight you guys. Though to be honest we are running smaller numbers right now. Not our giant 50-man groups like we did on IoJ.

The real question is if you will be able to stop our farm of you long enough to take a fully fortified hills!

It takes SBI (Not that theres much skill there) literally 3 organized guild groups to even compete with us at the moment (2 of them good-ish I guess) but thats like 80 vs our 30 and will still only wiped twice last night to them with those numbers.

Like you said, that’s SBI. Expect something different from us.

[KT] from SBI.. All I could hear was Hammer F1, over, and over, and over, and over. And we STILL won. :p was quite funny.

Anyways what size you guys running now, 20-30s like us?

Something like that. It’s been picking up again lately. On a good night we can run 25. But we have a good time even when we don’t. The win/loss ratio is still quite favored to the win category. Plus small team roaming is fun.

Banzie.5248:

Tibstrike.2974:

Banzie.5248:

Tibstrike.2974:

Banzie.5248:

Mmm one more day til CORE farm <3

You seem particularly confident about farming us lol

One more day til that notion corrected!

We’re a lot better then when you last saw us, also got some more people to even the numbers with you all ;3 I’m sure you’ll win some and we’ll win some but the Mend hills set up shall provide us with more loot! Question is.. You never know when hills may flip blue too ;D

Awesome! Can’t wait to fight you guys. Though to be honest we are running smaller numbers right now. Not our giant 50-man groups like we did on IoJ.

The real question is if you will be able to stop our farm of you long enough to take a fully fortified hills!

It takes SBI (Not that theres much skill there) literally 3 organized guild groups to even compete with us at the moment (2 of them good-ish I guess) but thats like 80 vs our 30 and will still only wiped twice last night to them with those numbers.

Like you said, that’s SBI. Expect something different from us.

Banzie.5248:

Tibstrike.2974:

Banzie.5248:

Mmm one more day til CORE farm <3

You seem particularly confident about farming us lol

One more day til that notion corrected!

We’re a lot better then when you last saw us, also got some more people to even the numbers with you all ;3 I’m sure you’ll win some and we’ll win some but the Mend hills set up shall provide us with more loot! Question is.. You never know when hills may flip blue too ;D

Awesome! Can’t wait to fight you guys. Though to be honest we are running smaller numbers right now. Not our giant 50-man groups like we did on IoJ.

The real question is if you will be able to stop our farm of you long enough to take a fully fortified hills!

Banzie.5248:

Mmm one more day til CORE farm <3

You seem particularly confident about farming us lol

One more day til that notion corrected!

Nikkinella.8254:

I’m pretty sure SBI will come in first in this league. We were able to put up a decent fight against FA for a bit, but holy crap you guys have a lot of people. It’s yet to be seen whether or not you can beat FA as far as their organization goes, but you definitely have the manpower to take them on. It should be a really interesting fight either way, I just hope we don’t get stuck in that matchup against you 2.

The problem with that is if SBI beats FA in the final week it will only tie for first. Granted this is assuming victory for all until the final matchup.

Mike.5193:

Banzie.5248:

Visirale.6097:

Why are we talking about tier queue servers in the silver league thread?

Because some of us still need recruits :l

We need to shift the super dedicated PvE players into WvW. They have the coin and gems for another set of armor, the dedication needed to win and a decently high skill level already from running around in zerker gear and staying up for such a long time in dynamic events. We have a rather large playerbase, but it seems like the same 80 people on in WvW all the time.

I say we institute a “Bring a PvE player into WvW day” where we get linked up with a PvE player that is playing the same class as you and run them around EB and a BL or 2 and teach them the intricacies of WvW.

I don’t know about the decently high skill from learning to dodge. Seems like every time I’m in PvE I see 20 people get one-shotted by bosses and champs when they should be able to dodge. If you want the really good PvErs you probably should recruit from people doing high level fractals at least. Not your run of the mill event chain warriors.

Hadan.2841:

CORE, ATTACK,RET, holy, XOXO, RAM and the many other guilds we ran into tonite thank you all for the fights. We are only a 10man grp but we still show up to fight win or lose. Its hard to compete with your guys numbers but we still have fun. Hope to see you all again tomorrow night and the rest of the week.

Hey! Thanks for the fights as well! Let us know if you want slightly more organized fight where our numbers can be a bit more even! PM me or one of the other CORE people you may see on the thread!

They are changing in so that it gives 4 seconds per pulse. It pulses 3 times I think so that’s 12 seconds of swiftness if you stay on it. But most importantly it will always give 4 seconds of swiftness when you run over it instead of the 1 second you get now if you already have swiftness. Its kinda a buff and a nerf.

I was gonna say, you must be running a nice computer. I’m lucky to get 10fps in a blob fight, and that’s all on low settings. I need a new computer.

Contiguous.1345:

Tibstrike answered this well enough.

But I’ll take issue with him saying you should do what the commander wants regardless. I’m not prepared to follow a bad commander and keep paying repair bills while he continues to insult me.
A good commander of course – that’s a different matter. Even if he makes mistakes occasionally.

My personal strategy is this:-
When playing a heavy armour class, I stack as tight as possible on the Commander to take advantage of the AoE limit and the heals/buffs coming in from various sources.

When playing a ranged clothie, I avoid heavy concentrations of AoE, regardless of the screams to ‘STACK!!!’. Good commanders will realise that necessity and really they mean for only melee to stack.
I dps from maximum range if at all possible, avoid being hit and run clear to heal if I do get hit.

As an example, only today we had a very good commander with us who specifically instructed range to keep clear and dps as far as possible. We had open ground and plenty of room to move The result was that we wiped a zerg easily five times our size who stuck together. (tbh despite my own misgivings as we attacked)
If we’d all just stacked they would have simply run us over..

Specific sub-case:-
That’s a tricky one. If you join the initial rush, even as a clothie you stand a chance because of the short-term stability/ invulnerability buffs your group can muster.
If there’s more AoE inside and nowhere to dodge out of it, you may not survive.
It’s a fine call you have to make based on your own experience.
If you’re not sure, hang back – but you might miss out on the loot.

Yeah, I guess it really is dependent on having a good commander. I just try to emphasize following what the commander does as it sets a good habit. I’m pretty poor in game but I still don’t really worry about repair costs. But to each their own.

Most of my advice about the push was focusing on choke points such as gates of towers and keeps as this is where people get melted a great deal. If you can get your group inside of the keep mostly alive its better than having half inside dead and the other half outside still alive. Open field fighting is a lot different and this is where the periphery strategy makes a lot more sense.

But like a lot of these guys have been saying. Use your best judgement. It is just a game.

The commander asking everyone to push is an answer to the red circles on the ground. AoE limit is 5 people for each circle so what’s better? 10 people triggering 10 marks? Or 30 people triggering 10 marks? The thirty people will take a great deal less damage than the 10 so more people will survive and be abke to DPS the enemy down. There are other things involving momentum and such but the whole push deal I think is based on AoE damage.

The question to push with the commander should usually go like this. Is it a zerg made up of a variety of people and guilds (pug zerg)? If so, everyone should stack on commander and push as a group. If the zerg is more of a single guild group this will change to the casters rotating around the outside. But most importantly, you should do what the commander asks no matter what. There ia a method to the madness..

The siege tick timer can be found by mousing over the small blue icon above the yellow health bar. The timer lasts for one hour before despawning and all you need to do to refresh is tap F twice when you run by it.

The whole supply thing is based on this idea. Say SMC is being trebbed by Red Keep in EB. The guy on the treb is a persistent person and will keep trebbing until the wall is down. He will ONLY stop once it is all the way gone. You cannot stop him from trebbing either. If you keep running back and forth dumping supply into the wall to repair it and the trebber keeps hitting the same wall, the repairing is effectively wasting supply as the wall will still be down in a while anyways. That supply could instead be used for siege on inner and lords room of SMC instead.

Anyways, hope that helps and sorry about any spelling errors. I typed all this on my phone.

Tip. If a mesmer is not releasing inside a keep that means the keep is not swept. There is either a thief or another mesmer still inside. You need to park a poor soul there and watch the body until they release.

And like I said. There is a way to move a dead body. Park a mesmer there and use their vortex skill to draw them back from the gate. It works.

That is not the exploit to get into Bay.

That has been a part of holding bay since the beginning of WvW. I don’t know why people think this is a new thing. First thing you should do is check the grates if you wipe an attack inside Bay. If there are people there, pull them if they are alive and if they are dead, get a mesmer and have them use skill #5 to slowly drag them away from the gate.

FA got hit hard as well.

FOR kittenS SAKE ANET! FIGURE THIS kitten OUT.

First your queues are a joke and now half of everyone getting into WvW gets kittening dced.

Neeho.3859:

syfro.6873:

To be honest I do think YB could stand a chance against SBI

I certainly hope so! I thought we had a chance against FA after the first night, then reality hit. Did FA have outmanned buff on reset night? I’m wondering if the queues were screwed up.

Nah. We just don’t mega zerg as much. A lot of us like to run in guild groups and the guild groups got split in half due to queues and PvErs. FA doesn’t hit its stride til Saturday really when the guilds are able to get out in full force and get the work started.

I’m just terribly confused about why this is a thread. I’m guessing that its people new to WvW because anyone who has played for more than like a day usually finds out about this. I found out about it the first day I played.

Anyways. Best way to get rid of a dead mesmer there is through the use of another mesmer. Your whirlpool or whatever can drag bodies away from the gate slowly. So just get them out of rezzing range with it.

Skill is #5 on spear. Vortex.

Good stuff this week YB and CD. Special props to YB. I think if you guys push hard all weekend and keep up a good EU presence you could give SBI a run for their money.

I will have to say I will not miss Thief Character from ONE. He is the most annoying scout I have ever seen. Many a ruined golem rush and zerg clash due to his scouting. I will miss some others, but you know who you are

frvwfrtwo.6109:

SammiLinn.9273:

the only good thing ive seen about [one] is your cute little asura scout. his awesome scouting skills are wasted on your guild. Does he just tell you that we are coming so you can run to a keep and build extra arrow carts?? thats all you guys do! If you read forums little theif “Yak’s Bend Legend” you’re welcome to transfer to FA

Hey that’s me! Loving all the stuff I’m hearing from you guys, really getting my ego going

Oh god. I’ve created a monster!

Again. CORE would like to cordially invite ONE to fight in open field or frankly anywhere outside cannon range. It does not have to be a GvG, just please inform us what map you are on so we can come and fight you. If this is too difficult to arrange, I’m sure CORE would be happy to come into a keep you are holding and fight you there as well.

Let us know.

Hey ONE. Have you accepted any of our challenges for a GvG yet? We are getting bored with this match-up so we decided to run around in a necro zerg. Let us know if you want fights cuz CORE is bored out of its mind right now. We are so bored that we will even fight you guys.

But seriously, contact me or any other CORE person in this thread so we can at least know where you guys are so we can get pwned by your obviously superior tactics and skills.

We want fights. Humor us.

Yaro.3251:

Tibstrike.2974:

Yaro.3251:

ViRiD.2784:

I don’t know any other class that would give up their heals for this ability. Maybe […] Guardians might it find it slightly useful

Shelter is just too good, so I’m not sure.

Not even just Shelter. I really like the signet. Great way to reset a fight when you can heal for like 9k easy.

I mean the torment cleanse would be nice but imo ks just not worfh the loss of the other two healing skills.

Yeah signet builds can benefit from it but guardians have other sources of healing and, well, you don’t need to heal damage you didn’t receive so 2 secs of block can do wonders if used properly. Coupled with traits that proc from blocks it becomes even stronger.

I was talking about Signet of Resolve mainly. It’s the only signet I run. I use it as an “oh kitten” button if the initial clash doesn’t go well for me. Shelter is nice, but sometimes you just get the short end of the AoE stick and need to rapidly heal up. I don’t really trait for blocks so Shelter is only useful to me in rare occasions. Its a great skill and I use it for roaming a great deal.

My guild has a no golem rule on Tuesdays due to patches wiping out 25 golems we were just about to use in a charge at a T3 bay. Granted, 25 golems tis a bit silly but we were planning on progressing around the map to hit the other T3 keeps. So we figured we needed a few extra.

Thus, No Siege Tuesdays.

Yaro.3251:

ViRiD.2784:

I don’t know any other class that would give up their heals for this ability. Maybe […] Guardians might it find it slightly useful

Shelter is just too good, so I’m not sure.

Not even just Shelter. I really like the signet. Great way to reset a fight when you can heal for like 9k easy.

I mean the torment cleanse would be nice but imo ks just not worfh the loss of the other two healing skills.

Runehand.9368:

FA figured out the key to a roaming group. Field 20 people. Hat’s off boys, you are truly talented.

In FA’s defense I would say that people seem to just accrue whenever my guildies and I are roaming. We had a silly gank squad going in YBBL the other day and all of a sudden 10 people just started following us. We WP and everything and they just kept showing up. Dunno.

I’ve been all over all three BL maps trying to find fights and the only good one I’ve had was earlier today with like 5 YB. Then all of a sudden a CD group of 15 just rolled over everyone still alive. Sucks.

Sykper.6583:

oregonice.6324:

ONE stop running away in FA BL.

Running you over does not constitute running away, especially in a larger ploy involving taking your bay with golems. It is also equally amusing seeing you guys fall for the same cliff trap numerous times.

…by the way as of a few minutes ago, your formerly upgraded bay is Red.

Thanks for the bags in the mean-time!

- Jornosh, Suicidal Warrior of [One], really wishing for stronger fights.

And your WPed Bay is now blue! It only took us 4 omegas as well, instead of 10. We will probably try and get your Garri as well! Toodles!