Guild Wars 2

Khrums.3765:

Thank you Anet for this Arena finally GvG can have place without queues or disturb WvW.

Please add some landmarks to arena, maybe 4 different statues at west,east,north,south so we can use this to coordinate movements on voice chat.
At windmill we could get direction by Windmill, trees , hill or water side. Nothing what could help on Arena just exit.

About Merchant would be nice to have merchant, trader, repairer armor but as this map don’t have queue and is like temporary solution before GvG will be introduced always we can chop to LA and join back or use spawned trader/merchant.

Thanks Anet

There is a queue if enough people get in. A couple guildies wanted to check it out and duel bht had to wait for a little bit.

sephiroth.4217:

Tibstrike.2974:

sephiroth.4217:

Tibstrike.2974:

sephiroth.4217:

Tibstrike.2974:

sephiroth.4217:

Apparently there is a new dueling arena that we were gonna meet up with some people to have fun with, I guess it’s FA exclusive today.

Sucks that we are outnumbered and have to put up with fall damage.

Unless my counting is horribad, it lokks like you have 7 people there and FA has 10. One of whom is upleveled. Sooo. Yeah. About that.

Well thanks for confirming the post, we have 7, you have 10 = outnumbered and we have to put up with fall damage so by the time we hit the ground and lose half our health it essentially turns into 3 and a half v 10.

Sooo. Yeah. About that.

Right. From what I remember that’s like 4k drop at most. So you do it. And then instaheal. Then fight like normal in a 7v10. And considering FA are terribads you should win pretty easy. Stop complaining about PvP farming in the worst possible spawn setup in the game.

I don’t get your anger mate, I have never said anything bad against CORE or anyone in your guild, I still talk to vis somedays but you gotta make an issue of something thats not even there, grow up mate, starting to see why IOJ was happy you guys left.

I’m not hating on you specifically. Don’t flatter yourself. You post a picture complaining about being camped with near even numbers on both side and I’m going to call you out on it. Then you switch pictures and then claim that there are two pictures. Then you attach the original back in to back up your story. Its sad seph. It really is. You can’t even troll well.

Loooooooooool…. Mate you are delusional, what ever you want to believe must be true dude cause you win the internet.

Also it’s funny you say I’m a bad troll when all I did was post 2 pics and it caused you to cry like a new born. I didn’t even have to say anything bad towards you guys or FA and it still made you get angry and defensive.

I can imagine your frustration right now as you type and press enter before your brain registers what’s going on.

Man. I don’t even know anymore. You win the internet I guess Seph. Congrats.

sephiroth.4217:

Tibstrike.2974:

sephiroth.4217:

Tibstrike.2974:

sephiroth.4217:

Apparently there is a new dueling arena that we were gonna meet up with some people to have fun with, I guess it’s FA exclusive today.

Sucks that we are outnumbered and have to put up with fall damage.

Unless my counting is horribad, it lokks like you have 7 people there and FA has 10. One of whom is upleveled. Sooo. Yeah. About that.

Well thanks for confirming the post, we have 7, you have 10 = outnumbered and we have to put up with fall damage so by the time we hit the ground and lose half our health it essentially turns into 3 and a half v 10.

Sooo. Yeah. About that.

Right. From what I remember that’s like 4k drop at most. So you do it. And then instaheal. Then fight like normal in a 7v10. And considering FA are terribads you should win pretty easy. Stop complaining about PvP farming in the worst possible spawn setup in the game.

I don’t get your anger mate, I have never said anything bad against CORE or anyone in your guild, I still talk to vis somedays but you gotta make an issue of something thats not even there, grow up mate, starting to see why IOJ was happy you guys left.

I’m not hating on you specifically. Don’t flatter yourself. You post a picture complaining about being camped with near even numbers on both side and I’m going to call you out on it. Then you switch pictures and then claim that there are two pictures. Then you attach the original back in to back up your story. Stop complaining so much.

sephiroth.4217:

Tibstrike.2974:

sephiroth.4217:

Apparently there is a new dueling arena that we were gonna meet up with some people to have fun with, I guess it’s FA exclusive today.

Sucks that we are outnumbered and have to put up with fall damage.

Unless my counting is horribad, it lokks like you have 7 people there and FA has 10. One of whom is upleveled. Sooo. Yeah. About that.

Well thanks for confirming the post, we have 7, you have 10 = outnumbered and we have to put up with fall damage so by the time we hit the ground and lose half our health it essentially turns into 3 and a half v 10.

Sooo. Yeah. About that.

Right. From what I remember that’s like 4k drop at most. So you do it. And then instaheal. Then fight like normal in a 7v10. And considering FA are terribads you should win pretty easy. Stop complaining about PvP farming in the worst possible spawn setup in the game.

Why do you think this would discourage zerging? People will not want to die so they group tighter to avoid being spiked down by AoE and zealous thieves. Thus more zerging. Then the zerg will just overrun the smaller zergs causing them to have to respawn and run all the way back. What about 5-man teams? If one of them goes down it can throw a comp out of wack. Now they either have to die to respawn or run away from the fight instead of finishing off the remaining enemy and rezzing up their teammate.

Cinder.2056:

Boreal.9826:

Nope, a formal alliance isn’t happening since that implies some level of coordination and/or communication.

Double teaming is happening, however, since it serves both YBs and Ebays interests to have SBI finish 3rd (edit: 3rd in this match). Also, SBI seems to be universally disliked. There’s just something about smug bandwagon servers that rubs people the wrong way (see also KN and DB).

Rather than crying about getting focused, how about accepting that it’s a part of WvW by design (and yes, YB has been double teamed many times). Of course it’s hard, seeing as you’ve had it easy for quite a few weeks now.

Anyway, thanks SBI and Ebay for such a memorable week of WvW!

Pretty much every silver league server has a grudge against SBI. They bandwagoned their way up, and in every thread we see something along the line of “You guys are so boring, we belong in gold leauge.” Which i imagine ticked many people off.

Psh. My grudge runs back to the guilds from DR who transferred to SBI. The folks that were on SBI were pretty cool. Just didn’t like those DR folks. Old IoJ grudge.

Banzie.5248:

Furiousbeard.7602:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Furiousbeard.7602:

UrMom.4205:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Out of curiosity, why are other servers rooting for us? O_o

For me personally, I find it funny that all those guilds that bandwagoned to SBI to win silver aren’t going to win. I hate bandwagoning and find it rather pathetic. So naturally I have zero respect for anything SBI. And also if YB snatched 2nd from SBI that would be 10x more awesome.

If you win this week and next week, 2nd spot is all yours

Provided that you guys don’t lose next match :p

It doesn’t matter if FA gets second in week 7 if YB beats SBI this week.

YB would most likely win their week 7 match which would give them 31 points. And SBI would also end up with 31 if they win week 7.

FA would still have 33 points which would leave them in first spot.

So you see. EVERYTHING RIDES ON THIS WEEKS MATCH!

:P

Assuming FA doesn’t get third.

Then everyone is happy! Or not. We’ll see.

No Cavalier’s?

Edit: I’m stupid. Your Rampager one is actually Cavalier’s.

Sounds like a normal progression to me Chris.

Maladon.5760:

etrigan.4213:

Maladon.5760:

FA throws their pre-season matches to stay out of the gold league at all costs then starts talking kitten in the silver league threads lol

You have no idea what you are talking about.

I am however, very sorry for your loss.

http://youtu.be/mq00IqO7Lvs

Dude, come on…it’s common knowledge at this point. You guys wanted an easy league win instead of having to fight tougher opponents. A lot of 13 year old girls would have made the exact same choice you guys did, don’t feel bad about it.

Just look at this thread, YB and Ebay have basically done the same thing. Made compromises to avoid a tough, perhaps unwinnable, fight. They aren’t ashamed of their decision and you shouldn’t be ashamed of yours. Some people just aren’t cut out for tough fights, don’t beat yourself up about it

So we get to include you in this lot? You guys couldn’t handle Gold so you came back down to Silver? Cool. Count me in.

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Tibstrike.2974:

In fact, they are loosening up some of the ascended stuff this patch. We can now make ascended backpieces with bloodstone dust in place of vials of mist essence.

Have you tried it? You should.

It doesn’t work]

No, I’m at work. I was just going off of what was said in the patch notes. I assume it involves bricks or stacks of dust.

No! It means that if ascended armor was available in-game, they would be potential drops in Fractals just like ascended weapons are now.

In fact, they are loosening up some of the ascended stuff this patch. We can now make ascended backpieces with bloodstone dust in place of vials of mist essence.

Is DIE transferring again?

Oh we can’t wait. I wanna see what all the hype about T1 is all about.

Best Small Man: SPCA from NSP

Flytrap.8075:

Tibstrike.2974:

mariemystar.8296:

is there a problem with 20v20 or 25v25?

Most guilds GvG 15v15/20v20 on GW2GvG.com but I’ve seen matches of 25v25 posted up there too.

I don’t see what the deal is.

Don’t let the hate get to you. BAGS just likes the trolling. They prefer 10v10s or 5v5s because they have no friends.

Not sure how what I said can be perceived as trolling, but alright. As already mentioned, most SBI guilds would have a hard time fielding 20 people.

Regardless, I can see that you’re still upset over your loss to Bags/DDLG. Don’t worry, time heals all wounds and practice makes perfect

Nah, it was a good learning experience. I was just being trolly. Is DDLG around anymore? Cuz I miss their stun fields and choke points.

Setsunayaki.4907:

Two servers…
IoJ for its early days.
JQ for withstanding the test of time and remaining in T1 for a year.

Worse server vote goes to FA for far too many reasons.

Please oh please tell me what your reasons are! My matchup thread is kind of boring. Amuse me.

mariemystar.8296:

is there a problem with 20v20 or 25v25?

Most guilds GvG 15v15/20v20 on GW2GvG.com but I’ve seen matches of 25v25 posted up there too.

I don’t see what the deal is.

Don’t let the hate get to you. BAGS just likes the trolling. They prefer 10v10s or 5v5s because they have no friends.

style.6173:

@OP. T3 is nice, but wait until TC, Mag, and SoS get ahold of you.

Oh I can’t wait. Get to stop hearing so much complaining and actually face servers who have numbers.

Well, tonight was my first night commanding the group. Twas interesting. Good stuff though. Learned a lot. Good fights from both IoJ and DB on IoJ BL. See ya later!

Caffynated.5713:

Tibstrike.2974:

The meteor shower exploit he is talking about is something many eles use to get more damage out of meteor shower. It’s not really an exploit. Basically you cast Meteor Shower and then use your Tornado elite to boost your damage as the Tornado form gives buffs to your power, precision, and vitality. It doubles all of them so you can get some pretty huge numbers if you want.

That works with pretty much any transform and persistent effect. Necros are even better at it with wells and lich form.

Oh yeah. I know. I don’t think its bad either. You can even hop in an omega golem for a big boost!

Caliburn.1845:

Blackgate would win due to coverage.

But a six hour exhibition match(say from 6pm server time until midnight) would be interesting. If all three servers could maintain full queues on four maps for all six hours, it would be a test of quality instead of coverage quantity.

Agreed. If it was touted as an exhibition match of some sort that would give time to organize a bit more. HoD would only be able to push hard in EB and their own BL I think. I think FA would have a good time with it though. We can queue all maps on reset night for quite some time. We’d need all of our WvW guilds inside to push super hard though, something that doesn’t happen often on reset.

The dragon tooth exploit is the non line-of-sight aspect of it. It can be used to hit siege on top of the wall and behind gates once you get it targeted.

The meteor shower exploit he is talking about is something many eles use to get more damage out of meteor shower. It’s not really an exploit. Basically you cast Meteor Shower and then use your Tornado elite to boost your damage as the Tornado form gives buffs to your power, precision, and vitality. It doubles all of them so you can get some pretty huge numbers if you want.

At least I think that’s what he talking about.

Xcaliber.7903:

Tibstrike.2974:

It’s always the same. Larger server = unskilled blobbers. Smaller servers = skilled fighters worn down by the masses. Its like sport announcers talking about white people in sports. The small servers are “scrappy” and “hard-workers” who use their skill to overcome the advantages of the bigger server. Blah blah blaaaaaaaah. Its doublespeak to make people feel better about themselves/the server.

When the reality is this is population wars. Lest you be guilty of what you are accusing everyone else of as well.

Nah. The PPT game is population wars for sure. I was trying to say that everyone says these things. The larger servers commend the smaller servers for fighting back just as much as the smaller servers chest-thump about it themselves. But when a larger server says a smaller server frankly sucks they get flamed for being a bunch of 1-spamming guardian bots. It’s tedious and a sad argument.

It’s always the same. Larger server = unskilled blobbers. Smaller servers = skilled fighters worn down by the masses. Its like sport announcers talking about white people in sports. The small servers are “scrappy” and “hard-workers” who use their skill to overcome the advantages of the bigger server. Blah blah blaaaaaaaah. Its doublespeak to make people feel better about themselves/the server.

RyuDragnier.9476:

So FA…bored, are we? A spawn camping attempt around Citadel?

Meh. Seems like the spawn camping is mutual.

Solstice.1097:

UHD.2634:

This may come off as a shock to you, but Iron Hide only works on people on rams. Kill the rams and it won’t take 1 minute and is extended from 1 minute to 30 minutes or even an hour.

iron will is AoE right? so 2 rams gives it to up to 10 people?

I think it has a 50 player limit. It lasts for 3 seconds and does not stack. You only need 1 ram to pop it on a pretty good zerg for a bit.

Chris.3290:

Samhayn.2385:

Well at least we can say leagues have cemented the glaring flaws in the current wvw scoring systems. Maybe this is what was needed for Anet to get the info they need to proceed with making something better.

in the mean time I will be waiting for edge of the mist and when it comes out I will spend my time there and let someone who cares more for PPT take my spot in the borderlands.

I just had a vision of the future. EoM queued for 5 hours on Maguuma, no queues elsewhere; FA has queues on all maps but EoM.

Well considering you can’t queue EoM, I think that would be a unfulfilled dream.

ArchonWing.9480:

UHD.2634:

Killing people.

Oh crap man.

Thanks guys, it all makes sense now. There’s a reason why my badges have dried up.

The past few days have been a lot of pvd (except 2 of them are not like solo and have buddies hiding somewhere) since there are queues and by the time I get there there’s like almost nothing besudes doors and the only kills are like fighting 5 other soloers (of which probably 3 of them aren’t actually soloing but have friends hiding somewhere). I guess there is no honor in karma training, lol.

Except that sweet, sweet karma and WxP. Also, best way to level alts.

Do you get involved in big fights a lot? I do. Only takes a few days to get up to 500 for me.

I would be fine with a sPvP style of GvG if they allow us to customize our gear layouts and stats the same way in WvW. You can keep the food, but if I have to use a kittenty amulet to get pigeonholed into one stat combo I will not play it.

Well now that we have that established….

Nah. I think he must. No other explanation really. I’m just sad that DIE only fights at spawn locations. Must feel great to have those legendary defenders to fall back to.

Tribio.8531:

Have to agree with OP here actually, I’m a native Fissue of Woe player and an avid WvW partaker, but never ever have I seen an ANet tag around.. :/

Oh well, you get used to being the ginger-haired stepchild that no one cares about after a while..

I think the problem you see is that you are an EU server. Most of the Anet people play on NA servers. I see Anet tags in WvW quite often on FA.

After watching the video, the overall length of the field is probably shorter than the “official” GvG area in the BLs. But if you consider most of the battles take place in the same area it is approximately the same length as the “clash area”. It is much, much wider than the current area and without any trees to interfere!

here’s the video I watched

Looks to be bigger than the present GvG location. You could even arrange a 2v2 match if ya wanted to.

Ansilon.6230:

Tibstrike.2974:

Ansilon.6230:

Tibstrike.2974:

Man Jay. You are really kitten about everything aren’t you?

Aren’t you on the wrong forum thread?

I missed the Bunses gifs And Karns trolling.

:-/ too bad CORE band-wagoned to FA for an easy win.
now, shoo shoo fa.

And here I was being nice. You caught us though. We bandwagoned so hard. So so hard. And we did it on purpose to screw over IoJ. Now you guys have to pull yourselves together again! Curses. We were found out. kitten . At least IoJ is full of uber-players now with so much loyalty that it falls out of their ears. But man! That gold dolyak finisher is the only thing we wanted though. That plus the blues and greens we will get for winning will be all worth it. So glad we bandwagoned. For serial.

Ansilon.6230:

Tibstrike.2974:

Man Jay. You are really kitten about everything aren’t you?

Aren’t you on the wrong forum thread?

I missed the Bunses gifs And Karns trolling.

To answer your question more exactly. All classes are viable in zerg fights. The only classes that tend to not be wanted as much are thieves and rangers.

Thieves are not as many people play builds better suited to roaming and duels and are quite glassy (rallybots). However, they are excellent squishy killers and general mayhem makers in zerg fights. They can spam poison clouds and effectively stop a regroup by themselves. They also can spike those pesky necros and eles.

Rangers tend to be looked down upon as other professions can handle what a ranger can do to a higher level. This includes CC, water fields, and ranged damage. That said, don’t let it discourage you from playing ranger in a zerg. I don’t know exactly what builds to use, but a melee ranger can be quite good while mixing in CCs such as Entangle. Just be aware that people will probably comment on it. Just live longer than them in the fight and laugh as you grab your loot bags.

That said, guilds tend to have compositions they want filled before having these two last professions played. The Warrior/guard/necro trinity at the moment is the meta and often times people only think those three professions are involved. Each guild is different so try asking around to see what they are looking for. Also, maybe roll and alt in one of the main zerg professions. It can’t hurt and would allow you flexibility!

EFWinters.5421:

etrigan.4213:

I’ll lay it out for EBAY right now:

I know for a fact that you had your BL queue’d at least a couple nights.

You still lost your BAY and HILLS to us, both nights.

Here you have a BL that the numbers are equal on, and you can’t hang.

Taking paper keeps is hard, especially when you have 4 fully upgraded keeps and fully upgraded Stonemist sitting with full supply from where you can just dump massive amounts of supply into another BL.

You are funny.

I appreciate you “laying it out” for us though.

Riiiight. Cuz we can just hop maps like that. Yup. Inb4 stacking comment.

But seriously. Paper keeps are easy to take if you don’t mind running around grabbing supply for 10-15 minutes. The pressure we keep up is intense. You guys did good holding the keeps you had last night. Can’t wait until tonight!

I imagine the griefers will be there as well. We will just have to roll over them if they keep it up. Hopefully the actual arena will be far enough down that AoEs can’t be dropped by the spectators. Would prevent the random meteor storms or supply drops that could be dropped from above.

Jay.7546:

YB map watchers extraordinaire. Kharma train leaving station. Another week with a mega zerg earning hollow wins. But each week we are getting better fighting and our smaller units are wiping larger YB more often.

The fun has been gone so we have to be creative. So when you see us dancing or laughing when you return exactly as the buff on our towers is up please don’t be sad or think its a tactical win on your part either.

Seeing SE take OW and try Veloka was funny. Another IOJ guild who left at the eleventh hour to a larger server. Seems odd that CORE did the same thing jumping to FA but hey what better way to improve your odds by reducing another servers odds after you helped get us into silver. Imagine if honor and loyalty mattered and IOJ had those 50 or so members that hamstrung us. Hmmm. Happy Hollow Victories.

Man Jay. You are really kitten about everything aren’t you?

Well, I am sad. Played for quite some time tonight and DIE never showed up to wipe us like the baddies we are. And here I was looking forward to the good fights. Maybe they will show up later. I hope my guildies have a good time.

Anyways, Nice defense of Garri Ebay. We must’ve been in there for upwards of an hour without breaking inside. Good stuff.

wut…just wut…..

We are waiting…

At this point I’m actually seriosuly concerned about his mental state. Even trolls don’t try this hard to troll.

People arguing over whether a glass-cannon includes evades and such eludes me. As many evades and such a thief has even melee classes can unload on them due to huge hitboxes and the large range of melee weapons. I play guardian and even when I get hit with a backstab I can still unload damage on a thief before he gets into stealth again. The only thieves who get away from that burst are the ones who instantly shadowstep away and guess what? That utility is gone for 40 seconds. Most don’t instantly get away, so melee classes can unload on them just as much and AoE class. That’s where the glass-cannon phrase comes in. Instead of only 5k damage like I would get on a tanky opponent, I’m auttoattacking for 2k and hitting 10k with Whirling Wrath.

It’s all about reaction time.

Mike.5193:

Tibstrike.2974:

When WvW resets there is approximately one second where the interface is reloading. If you are at a portal you can hit F and start loading into WvW right away. In servers like FA that one second loadtime can mean the difference of getting in or sitting in a queue for hours.

Cry moar. I feel horrible you jumped ship to stack a server and now can’t get into WvW.

We did this on IoJ too Mike. Maybe you weren’t playing at the time but we still had queues on IoJBL and EBG on resets. It was the only way to beat the hordes into the map so we could get our entire guild inside.

No. While the mismatched fights such as you describe are common, I would say most people in WvW are level 80s with full exotics. Its not hard to win 1v2s if you know what you are doing. Some classes and builds do have advantages over others yes, but thats the same in PvP.

My problem with PvP is that you get one amulet. One amulet with set stats. I want to mix and match celestial and cavalier stats to get the blend I want for my guardian. That’s impossible in PvP.

Verdelet Arconia.6987:

Discussion:how to level the playing field.
Standard Equipment
WVW using spvp equal standards- all level 80,all using same rating of gears,all available for free to help build diversity and ease of change.

Standard Manning
Equal quantity since quality can never be equalled.
100 VS 100 VS 100 per map. Excess or equal amount of players will create overflows of same map.
If not enough ppl it will change to 50 VS 50 VS 50. Imbalanced excess of ppl will be queued in edge of the mist.
If no one is even playing in one of the world,then WVW world population is broken and requires merging.

I will only accept the sPvP like armor if it has the full range of equipment available. I don’t play sPvP because of the lack of build diversity available. I don’t want to be pigeonholed into a full zerker build or a full tank build. I want a blend, which is impossible to achieve in sPvP, unless I am completely oblivious to how things work there.