Guild Wars 2

Otaur.9268:

Tigaseye.2047:

Getting tired of it now, TBH.

Been playing almost every day, for just under 6 months and have only got one ascended weapon (which I was grateful for) and a few rings.

I only really do WvW, because I don’t enjoy the way dungeons are designed and/or the way people tend to play them and I just can’t go on like this, financially.

I hear PVE-only players say they can make 70g a day; whereas, I only normally make about 5g, if I’m lucky.

I didn’t mind ploughing real money into the game, to begin with, but I have to draw the line somewhere.

So, if I can’t make some kind of in-game “living” from playing the parts of the game I enjoy/can tolerate, I will just have to play something less expensive instead.

6 months and you got an ascended… Lol, try playing from headstart and main WvW only, no fractals, no dungeons… Gold is hard to make, gear is hard to get, and oh yeah, not one ascended armor/weapon chest. Guess I need to leave the part of the game I like and try fractals, oh wait, people are a** holes and judge by achievement points, which if you only WvW is not very high. Yet, my account seems to have permanent bad luck.

I know exactly what you mean.

I don’t do dungeons and fractals, either, except once in a blue moon.

Haven’t even done all the dungeon paths yet; let alone any moderate/high level fractals.

I got the ascended weapon from WvW – in a borderland, not in EOTM (which I also haven’t really done until recently).

I’ve “only” played for 6 months, but I do play a lot of WvW, in terms of hours, so it’s not like I only play 2 hours a day and still got the weapon, if that makes you feel any better?

I totally agree with you about a lot of people’s attitudes in dungeons and fractals and just dislike the whole skip>stack>melee thing, which is why I tend to avoid them, as well.

I did a few with a guild I just joined, recently and they were patient with me (and my WvW gear), which was obviously really nice of them, but I just don’t see why people are forced to play PVE to make gold?

Even EOTM is less than ideal – you get more loot, but the terrain is horrible for (potential) group PVP.

It’s confusing, with too many chances to die from falling, until you learn the map and once you do fall, you can’t get back to the zerg.

That’s even assuming you enjoy constant zerging, of course…

Don’t get me wrong, it’s a gorgeous-looking map and far more interesting to look at than the regular WvW maps.

I think it would, actually, be really nice for solo PVE, for example, but I can’t help finding it confusing how that is the way new players are supposed to be eased into WvW.

As it’s so much harder to navigate than the “real” maps are.

Of course, if they can’t ensure that all servers are active, they should transfer you to an active WvW server, free of charge.

WvW is part of the game and you have a right to be able to take part in it, without being almost totally on your own, or paying to transfer.

Paid transfers should be for people already on an active server, who just fancy playing on another one, instead; not for people who are on a dead server and have no reasonable choice but to transfer.

This is one of the reasons why I hate the no-sub thing, as I feel companies can just hide behind it, as an excuse for poor service.

Someone could have, potentially, poured $1000s into the game, via buying virtual items etc. and still, somehow, be made to feel they have very little right to expect anything very much, in terms of the maintenance, upkeep and balancing of the game.

Thief, I would have thought?

The class with the most access to stealth will almost always win in that kind of solo situation.

Getting tired of it now, TBH.

Been playing almost every day, for just under 6 months and have only got one ascended weapon (which I was grateful for) and a few rings.

I only really do WvW, because I don’t enjoy the way dungeons are designed and/or the way people tend to play them and I just can’t go on like this, financially.

I hear PVE-only players say they can make 70g a day; whereas, I only normally make about 5g, if I’m lucky.

I didn’t mind ploughing real money into the game, to begin with, but I have to draw the line somewhere.

So, if I can’t make some kind of in-game “living” from playing the parts of the game I enjoy/can tolerate, I will just have to play something less expensive instead.

briggah.7910:

Tigaseye.2047:

Sadly, Rangers are normally the easiest prey – even to other Rangers.

If you play a Ranger, you will find that you are normally targeted before all other classes, as most people assume you will be easiest to kill.

I focus rangers first, not because they are easiest to kill, but because nobody likes to take a rapid fire to the back.

That’s what dodge is for.

…and whether you don’t kill them first for that reason, or not, doesn’t change the fact that they normally are easiest to kill (once you are in range, obviously).
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Sadly, Rangers are normally the easiest prey – even to other Rangers.

If you play a Ranger, you will find that you are normally targeted before all other classes, as most people assume you will be easiest to kill.

BTW, pretty sure running into the spiders killed him/her, in the end; not you.

Yeah, most of it is pretty bad.

I prefer the stuff in ESO, for example.

In that, you can even mix different weight armours and they still look pretty harmonious.

Then they also have the “disguise” (outfit) things you can just sling over the top, if you prefer (not sure if they’re still free – I only played for a while, when it was a sub game).

Huggywuggles.2814:

Tigaseye.2047:

Huggywuggles.2814:

Michael Henninger.7451:

telimo.7201:

Michael Henninger.7451:

Neural.1824:

I don’t see a red tag on your name.

I’ve got one!!

You should block the account and then make no further attempt to interact with them directly or through a 3rd party (i.e. having a friend send an in-game mail).

If they continue to harass you submit a support ticket with as much detail as you can provide.

But this is no solution if a person put you on friend or blocklist and always knows when and where you are online. Why I’m not being displayed for a blocked person as always offline? The blocked person could not see my online status and also not the place where I am. Please change this

I agree that this is in need of a fix and we’ve asked for one. In the meantime; let me hunt ’em down for you. >=)

I have to say THIS is why I like GW2 (and Anet) so much. Not only are they vocal in hunting down scum but they seem to truly enjoy their job and understand their EULA/ToS and want to enforce it.

By comparison, I played another game where people would have blatantly offensive names. I would report them and put them on my friend list (out of curiosity). One went four years with a particularly offensive name without repercussion. The response from the GM I received after repeatedly reporting this player was, “You can’t expect us to get everyone, can you? Now stop bothering us or I’ll permanently ban you for harassing company staff.”

No, you can’t expect them to “get everyone”, but you should be able to expect them to get the ones reported to them and acknowledged by them.

Clearly, the GM in question didn’t agree with his company’s rules in this case, otherwise why on earth didn’t he just deal with the issue, instead of wasting his time arguing with you?

Can I ask which game this was, BTW?

World of Warcraft. They’ve really developed (at least from a player’s eyes) an attitude of ‘we don’t care’. But I was as surprised by the reply as I was the attitude. Who’d ever think that reporting a player in violation of the EULA/ToS could get a person banned.

Yeah, thought it might be WoW. :/

Huggywuggles.2814:

Michael Henninger.7451:

telimo.7201:

Michael Henninger.7451:

Neural.1824:

I don’t see a red tag on your name.

I’ve got one!!

You should block the account and then make no further attempt to interact with them directly or through a 3rd party (i.e. having a friend send an in-game mail).

If they continue to harass you submit a support ticket with as much detail as you can provide.

But this is no solution if a person put you on friend or blocklist and always knows when and where you are online. Why I’m not being displayed for a blocked person as always offline? The blocked person could not see my online status and also not the place where I am. Please change this

I agree that this is in need of a fix and we’ve asked for one. In the meantime; let me hunt ’em down for you. >=)

I have to say THIS is why I like GW2 (and Anet) so much. Not only are they vocal in hunting down scum but they seem to truly enjoy their job and understand their EULA/ToS and want to enforce it.

By comparison, I played another game where people would have blatantly offensive names. I would report them and put them on my friend list (out of curiosity). One went four years with a particularly offensive name without repercussion. The response from the GM I received after repeatedly reporting this player was, “You can’t expect us to get everyone, can you? Now stop bothering us or I’ll permanently ban you for harassing company staff.”

No, you can’t expect them to “get everyone”, but you should be able to expect them to get the ones reported to them and acknowledged by them.

Clearly, the GM in question didn’t agree with his company’s rules in this case, otherwise why on earth didn’t he just deal with the issue, instead of wasting his time arguing with you?

Can I ask which game this was, BTW?

ionix.9054:

Less.1265:

Thanks for the answer.

One of the problem is, as i’ve said before, that they harass her “physically” with their toons >_>’

How do you physically harass someone in a video game?

All you can do is report the players and block them. If they are violating a rule I would hope they are banned. If they are not breaking any rules or ANET doesn’t consider it harassment then seems like you just have to move on with your life.

If they are breaking rules and they aren’t banned it seems like you just have to move on with your life.

They probably do “sexual” things.

I know that probably sounds ridiculous, but it is possible to make someone feel they are being sexually harassed; especially if they are whispered with inappropriate stuff, as well.

It is not OK that they are trying to upset people in this way (especially females and/or kids) and they need to be made aware of that, in no uncertain terms.

This is probably the clipping they’re referring to – when your char has one leg bent, it cuts through the skirt.

I like the outfit, particularly the sandals.

Think I would prefer it if it was with shorts, or leggings (although, not the wide male pants/trousers), not a skirt, or if the skirt was more close fitting.

I was thinking an aesthetic answer to allowing leg movement in skirts would be to put an intentional split, at the front, over one leg (rather than making the skirt flare out further than it looks like it should be able to), but I don’t know if that would be possible?

It’s still horribly unbalanced, to be honest.

In theory, if they ever manage to balance it, it will probably be better than what we had.

If not, then there are always other games.

that baby stealing dingo.7216:

Luna Leon.3480:

Diversity? Who ever stated on the above post that the specialization system has more diversity than the Trait Points System… Doesn’t know what diversity means.

And I am specific with my “complain”. I had diversity, to built optimal or non optimal chracters. That’s the fun of the game to have as much free options possible. You wanna optimize your built… Feel free. You wanna built it like a brick… Feel free. We had that and the just replaced it with a TEMPLATE! Templates offer minimal diversity.

Killing fun skills, redusing customization etc… YES it kills the game slowly.

Can we do anything about it… YES we wait for another year hopefully for the new korean games to hit europe.

Do we need to wait for the korean games… NOT if the developers could ajust their hearing a bit to the consumer voice. Because afterall GW2 it is a great game but is start to fall. I will hate to quit playing it becaue of failed upgrades after 3 years!

I hear you Luna, and I agree with you for the most part. Unfortunately, this “Diablo 3.5” approach is being warmly welcomed by what appears to be a majority of the player base. (I could be wrong; maybe it’s just the most vocal players that are happy with this approach, and not the majority of all players).

In short, I like having the choice to make sub-optimal characters. Being different is part of the fun. I want more choices, not more meta builds to choose from.

But there is surely no going back now, Anet is too invested. I’m trying out the new system but I just can’t appreciate it the way some others do. Ah well, I did get a good 1.5 years out of this game, and that’s not bad.

Why on earth would anyone want to make “sub-optimal” characters?

I totally understand enjoying a large amount of choice, but surely that approach only works if they are capable of balancing it?

Doesn’t yellow normally mean non-hostile?

In PVE, for example, you can attack a creature with a yellow name tag, but it doesn’t/can’t attack you until you do.

As opposed to red which, obviously, means hostile and programmed to attack anything in aggro range.

Therefore, if an enemy player had a yellow name tag, as opposed to a red one, I would expect them to not be able to attack unless attacked first.

In answer to your question, I expect it’s just some kind of glitch.

I wouldn’t want this, personally.

I already often feel visually overwhelmed, as it is (especially if I show backpack and with all the clipping issues), without 3 or 4 weapons permanently attached to my char’s body.

As long as it was optional, I guess it would be OK.

Well, I’m hoping, once they balance it, there will be more, because I’m hoping for fewer (ideally, no) red herrings.

Test.8734:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

The way you phrased it implies that it makes GW2 a less well-crafted or maintained game, which is not the case.

Well maintained? Not really.

Would you like a simple example? You are looking at it right now. This forum has been broken since it was created, with a myriad of bugs (like the one that happens when topics reach a new page) and only barebones features. Yet, ArenaNet has lost connection with the company that designed and maintained this forum, so they don’t have the knowledge of how to fix it.

Does that speak of something “well-crafted or maintained” to you? Do you think Blizzard would ever have allowed something like that to happen, or if it did happen that they wouldn’t have provided a new, better forum?

In the end, the platform you are writing in shows how much ArenaNet really cares about their players.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Certainly, US$1,375 over 3 years is more than 15/month. What, my fellow patron, did you choose to spend all that money on? Presumably you received cosmetic or convenience items that you wanted and presumably you got some enjoyment from them. That wasn’t just fourteen hundred bucks that ANet took from your bank account; it was cash you offered to them in exchange for something.

Further, if you have saved the 60% in cash on a traditional sub game, all you would have gotten is the core game. That wouldn’t have paid for any expansions or extras of any sort, including character slots or skins or whatever.

Not really. He would have the core game, all the features he has bought with gems and more, since one of the main differences between the free to play model (which is basically the model GW2 is following right now, given how big the Gem Store is) and the pay to play model is that the former restricts through a pay wall many features that the latter offer completelly in game. So, were this a subscription based game, the great majority of the Gem Store skins would have been available in game instead of through the store, we would have a decent way of obtaining the BL weapon skins instead of the scam-like lottery way we currently have, and so on, and so on.

The OP would have received everything he paid for and far, far more. In this, his comparison is perfectly apt.

Quite.

Baldrick.8967:

I love some of the terminology used here, such as ‘investing’ ‘patrons’ etc. You are doing no such thing- you are spending money on a product. Typical marketing ploy, make you feel ‘invested’ in the product.

Investing would involve buying shares in the parent company.

You can use “invested” correctly, in the looser sense of the word, though.

For example, you can “invest” time in a hobby – doesn’t even have to be a financial investment, let alone one that is made in expectation of a financial return.

The thing is, genuine or not, the OP does raise an interesting question.

How do you try to get a company, you like the work of, to grow and become more effective and productive, if they don’t charge everyone a set amount?

Or, in fact, even if they do.

I would never think of throwing large sums of money at a company, like the OP is suggesting, but if he is a multi-millionaire, or a billionaire (so has more than enough cash to spare), maybe he thinks it would be worth it, to him, if he did so and it helped speed development up?

As I was saying on another thread, I think this is an interesting (and disturbing) sign of the times, as in the past there were simply far more lower and middle incomed people, who still had enough spare cash to contribute to the development of products.

But, now we have moved back to a time where, due to lack of work, low wages and high living costs, it would appear almost no one has much (if any) spare cash, except the 1%.

That means, if things don’t change, we may be moving back to a time of rich benefactors sponsoring the arts, rather than everyone paying their own small contribution.

Hopefully, this situation will soon change again, as it is obviously not healthy.

AlliedKhajiit.2794:

$60 on the launch of the game, and I think I’ve spent about $40 on gems. Most of the time I just to gold->gems transactions, it’s not like gold is hard to obtain.

Depends which parts of the game you play and how you play them.

Yeah, I’m about the same as you – I haven’t spent as much, but then I haven’t been playing as long.

I would have been far better off with a sub.

The problem is, they are overcharging for items, as the price of those items has to not only cover the price of the items themselves, but to also help pay for the running of the game and the fact that only some people will buy those items.

I, basically, feel that you have people who overspend subsidising people who spend nothing.

Which would be OK, if the people spending could all afford it and the people who spend nothing really couldn’t afford it (and if they all had good attitudes towards other players).

But if some of them are just tight (and/or don’t), it’s really not fair is it?

Especially if games companies, that use these methods, then try to hide behind the no sub thing as a reason for delivering a sub-par product.

Really, I think they should bite the bullet and charge a sub.

Maybe they could give a grace period, for people who have already spent a lot on average, per month, so it didn’t seem too much like double-dipping?

I realise I will get a load of people saying they would have to quit, if they had to pay a sub and that is something that genuinely upsets me.

But, if someone can’t even afford to pay a small sub per month, that is due to a far bigger issue – i.e. the current horrendous economic inequalities, in the world, that urgently need to be sorted out.

You’re not going to sort these issues out by just expecting one bunch of (probably not that wealthy) people to pay for another bunch of (even less wealthy and/or tighter) people.

No other form of entertainment expects some customers to pay, almost entirely, for others (as far as I’m aware?), so I’m not sure how long people will put up with it, to be honest.

So, you’ve just spent 20 minutes, or whatever, creating your character.

You’re just about to move on the personal story pages and the game kicks you and doesn’t save your character creation process.

Extremely annoying.

Not only that, but it puts you (or me, anyway) off trying to maker another character, as I’m worried it will keep happening.

Is there any way you can make it so we can: a) save partial character creation progress, in case of DCs (or if the person has to go and do something else, before completing the character) and/or b) ensure that the game doesn’t kick, with no warning, during character creation?

Thank you.

I think damage needs to come down, again and/or things still need rebalancing.

Not picking on Mesmers in particular, here – just in general.

People being one, or two shotted, is not good gameplay.

Celtic Lady.3729:

Tigaseye.2047:

I’m referring to the fact that, not so long ago at all, women were expected to promise to “obey” their husband, in the marriage vows.

A married woman had, in theory, to consent at any time her husband wished.

Isn’t it interesting that such an archaic system still exists even in the 21st century?

Yes, quite.

I mean, they have obviously changed the law since then, but you’d think the fact that it was ever like that (especially until so, relatively, recently) would put people off.

Maybe most people just don’t know?

Or are so caught up in the romance of it, they ignore it.

Azel.4786:

Tigaseye.2047:

Honestly, I have some understanding for your point of view in that, yes, marriage is/was supposed to be a religious union between a man and a woman (mainly for reasons of procreation).

Not only that, but it is an inherently sexist institution and I’m not saying that as some kind of extremist feminist…

I’m referring to the fact that, not so long ago at all, women were expected to promise to “obey” their husband, in the marriage vows.

Also, kitten within marriage wasn’t illegal, as it wasn’t even recognised as being possible.

Now, really, why would anyone – gay or not – want to enter into this kind of institution, with all its negative associations?

Unless, of course, their (very traditional) religious belief is more important to them than anything else.

The largest problem is that people often blur the line between religion and civil aspects – people use religion to try to justify things on the civil side that have no support in religion whatsoever.

I do not speak for all religions, each as their own aspects and I do not know them all, but in the religion I follow men and women are to be treated equally in the marriage.

In fact, we accept divorce in very few cases, but one is expressly those where the man or the woman disrespects/mistreats the other (and no, denying is not disrespecting/mistreating, but forcing is).

But I digress, you have full choice in wanting to be part of a religion, wanting a religious union (whichever religion you choose) and/or a civil union. I only ask that people respect other beliefs.

Well, I’m basically referring to what marriage entailed, historically, in the UK (and probably, also, the US, as we tend to have fairly similar laws).

When I say “historically”, I mean probably less than 50 years ago for the examples I gave – not hundreds, or thousands, of years ago.

As it is the UK, it will have been based on Christianity.

Probably Catholicism originally and then the Church of England, for the last few hundred years.

Azel.4786:

I always prefer to refrain from commenting on topics like these, but honestly you are being discourteous to him. He expressly mentions that he still cares for people whose life choices he disagrees with, yet you come and force him to accept that, condemning him in veiled words for his decision and belief.

I have gay friends that I frequently talk to and I care about them. I work in a company in which there are a substantial number of people from the LGBT community and I am close friends with many. I am very open to them and so are they with me and we get along just fine both on a professional and a personal level.

I accept of who they are and I am glad they are able to accept and feel happy about who they are – I would hate that they did not feel comfortable about who they are and were persecuted by people for being who they are. I actively support their inclusion in our society.

However I am also very open to them about being a religious person and that I believe in God and I have learned of his teachings and one of them is that the marriage is a sacred union of a man and a woman. And I am open about the fact that I do not believe it right for same sex marriage, but before you bring your hate to me, I am a supporter of same sex union. And there is a BIG difference.

Same sex union is a civil union with ramifications from a civil standpoint, whilst marriage is a holy union with religious aspect. Marriage is an union that has no civil consequences in many countries – except those who do not have a segregation between state and church – but it is a union with deep religious meaning. And this union I am against being forced to accept same sex unions as, when it happens (and is happening at a growing pace), I feel that it is religion – and those who believe in it – are being unjustly persecuted and are being forced to change their views because others to not accept them.

People – from both sides – need to just understand that people can be religious and be kind to their brothers and sisters and that people can have different beliefs and still be kind to each other, we should just respect each others beliefs and choices, as long as they do not bring harm to ourselves or to others.

And I believe that we can perfectly live together with you accepting peoples religious choices and beliefs and these very same religious people accepting those of the LGBT community and giving them a fair, kind and respectful treatment, both respecting each others boundaries and treating each other with respct.

To sum the above, on the topic of ANET posting that picture, I defer to my comment on civil and religious aspects. As long as ANET does this in a manner that does not offend my religious beliefs – and ANET has not done this in an offensive manner – I have no qualms about ANET including transgender NPCs, same sex unions/couples, etc. and they are free to express their views.

I only ask that ANET respects this boundary and does not start to be offensive to the belief of the portion of its fan base that is religious and would like to have their beliefs treated with the respect – which, thus far, ANET has done.

Honestly, I have some understanding for your point of view in that, yes, marriage is/was supposed to be a religious union between a man and a woman (mainly for reasons of procreation).

Not only that, but it is an inherently sexist institution and I’m not saying that as some kind of extremist feminist…

I’m referring to the fact that, not so long ago at all, women were expected to promise to “obey” their husband, in the marriage vows.

Also, non-consensual union within marriage wasn’t illegal, as it wasn’t even recognised as being possible.

A married woman had, in theory, to consent at any time her husband wished.

Now, really, why would anyone – gay or not – want to enter into this kind of institution, with all its negative associations?

Unless, of course, their (very traditional) religious belief is more important to them than anything else.

Arioso.8519:

Every type of build is now a valid choice.

The problem appears to be that some are more valid than others.

When some things are more valid than others, it obviously means the less valid things gradually become viewed as invalid.

Coulter.2315:

Tigaseye.2047:

Coulter.2315:

Tigaseye.2047:

Yes, I also find it offensive that a distasteful concept is being celebrated in a game.

But, I’m not talking about gay marriage, here, I’m talking about all marriage.

Obviously, I’m joking to an extent, but quite honestly, I think the answer to this “problem” would have been to extend civil partnerships to straight people, all along.

That way, only very traditional, religious, couples would go the marriage route and the rest of us would just go the civil partnership route.

That way, we would have all been equal, without all this hassle and upset in the religious community and traditional marriage would have probably been thought of as the outmoded concept it essentially is and would have, gradually, gone the way of the dodo.

That kinda leaves out gay people who are religious though. But I have no issue providing civil partnerships to heterosexuals.

Yeah, that’s true.

But, in a way, why would you want to be a member of a club that doesn’t seem to want you?

Might be better to make your own club, instead.

Maybe there could have been another type of partnership created (for both gay and straight religious couples), with religious references, instead?

I’m pro-gay marriage, for those who want it; I just question whether any of us should really want traditional marriage.

I can’t say I understand it (I’ve thought any god we were told to pray to from the age of 5 must be evil or not there – nothing nice demands you praise it). But there are many who do have belief in religions while being gay and laws have to be equal.

The “we’re becoming too integrated and losing our culture” side of things is always, I suppose, a bother, but worth it for the gains I think. You can even do both I know a married couple who still do all the naughty undergound stuff anyway.

The important thing is we are equal before the law – as a Brit I have a lot invested in the rule of law.

Yeah, true.

I’m British too, BTW.

Raven.3957:

Why dont you just roll back the trait system until you can manage to ballance everything, then put it back out again. Why leave the game so broken while you work on so many obvious blaring bugs. Roll it back, fix the kitten, try again later.

Instead what your gonna do is make us all suffer through this unballanced crap-fest until HoT comes out, still not have it ballaced, then have to ballance the NEW stuff along with the unballanced old stuff.. Its going to be a mess…

The people that will cry about a temporary trait rollback are the people who are running around one shotting people in the first place. They are gonna cry because they cant press one button and do 20k damage. Boohoo.

Yeah, but they’re going to get far more info from us playing (and dying in 2 secs), than they would if they rerolled and tried to do it all in abstract.

Should we be unpaid testers? No, quite frankly.

However, that is still probably the most efficient way for them to find out exactly what needs fixing.

Coulter.2315:

Tigaseye.2047:

Yes, I also find it offensive that a distasteful concept is being celebrated in a game.

But, I’m not talking about gay marriage, here, I’m talking about all marriage.

Obviously, I’m joking to an extent, but quite honestly, I think the answer to this “problem” would have been to extend civil partnerships to straight people, all along.

That way, only very traditional, religious, couples would go the marriage route and the rest of us would just go the civil partnership route.

That way, we would have all been equal, without all this hassle and upset in the religious community and traditional marriage would have probably been thought of as the outmoded concept it essentially is and would have, gradually, gone the way of the dodo.

That kinda leaves out gay people who are religious though. But I have no issue providing civil partnerships to heterosexuals.

Yeah, that’s true.

But, in a way, why would you want to be a member of a club that doesn’t seem to want you?

Might be better to make your own club, instead.

Maybe there could have been another type of partnership created (for both gay and straight religious couples), with religious references, instead?

I’m pro-gay marriage, for those who want it; I just question whether any of us should really want traditional marriage.

Ashen.2907:

General Health.9678:

I’m looking forward to playing with one less homophobe.
And please, it’s not all about you Americans, Europe is incredibly supportive of same sex relationships that includes marriage. We just need to work on Russia..

Isnt same sex marriage only recognized in less than 25% (11 out of 50, 12 as of 2017) of European countries ?

My apologies if I am reading the wikipedia entry incorrectly or if it is out of date or incorrect.

Yeah, but if you look at the map, it’s legal in most of Western Europe and even in most of the parts of Western Europe that don’t have it yet, civil partnerships (or the equivalent) exist.

The exception would be Italy, which is because it is (obviously) a predominantly Catholic country.

Western Europe and Eastern Europe are still quite different, in terms of views and so on, with Western Europe typically being far more progressive.

Yes, I also find it offensive that a distasteful concept is being celebrated in a game.

But, I’m not talking about gay marriage, here, I’m talking about all marriage.

Obviously, I’m joking to an extent, but quite honestly, I think the answer to this “problem” would have been to extend civil partnerships to straight people, all along.

That way, only very traditional, religious, couples would go the marriage route and the rest of us would just go the civil partnership route.

That way, we would have all been equal, without all this hassle and upset in the religious community and traditional marriage would have probably been thought of as the outmoded concept it essentially is and would have, gradually, gone the way of the dodo.

If anything, I feel they didn’t go far enough.

They should have divorced weapon type effectiveness from traitlines.

So you could have, just as effectively, used any weapon with any traitline and didn’t have to sacrifice a useful trait, for another one that just boosts a certain type of weapon.

Also, I would have scrapped the whole 6bn different types of armour thing and just worked things like condition damage into skills, as standard.

Far easier to manage and balance.

Fluffball.8307:

Seriously, if you think rangers command with a LB, think your posts through a little better.

I think people know they, generally, don’t.

But that doesn’t change the fact that some classes are just inherently more suited to it than others.

Obviously, front line, tanky, heavy armour, defensive, melee-friendly classes will always be best.

They can try to pretend that they have removed the necessity for tanks from the game, as much as they like, but they’re still inevitably going to be far more viable than anything else for leading a WvW zerg.

That’s not to say good players, with good support, can’t play something else; but it’s never going to be optimal.

The worst is, typically, going to be anything that favours ranged, lacks passive defenses and/or is squishy.

The only way they could get around this, is if they let all classes wear heavy armour, made all equally effective in frontline melee roles and let all build equally tanky and passively defensive.

…and I’m saying all this with absolutely no knowledge of playing classes, other than Ranger, in this game; it’s just an inevitable consequence of the design.

BrendaEM.2096:

A producer once tried to get me to understand the commercial aspects of commercial art. It’s art for money—right? Anyway, to prove a point, he took a stack of concept drawings, crumpled them up, and threw them on the floor, as I stared with disgust.

That was really arrogant and disrespectful and as someone who also values good artwork (even if it does fall into the “commercial” category), I can see why you found that upsetting.

It’s beautiful.

Kind of looks like Malta.

Blackworm.2167:

dervix.9126:

Traveller.7496:

If he was a major NPC (or even if he’s not), and the plot calls for him to die, would you treat it as any other NPC dying, or would you be outraged how ANet killed a transgendered character? If you said yes to the latter question, then you are not ready for equality.

Ahem… I should note, you should be using ‘she’, not ‘he’ in this case. Sure, it’s just a character in a game whose feelings you couldn’t hurt, but going out of your way to use the wrong pronouns shows that you don’t really understand equality either.

A man may be transgender, but no amount of surgery is going to remove that Y chromosome or give him a menstrual cycle. He’s still biologically male

This is, obviously, true.

However, if someone strongly feels their brain was born into the wrong body and that they should have been born the opposite gender instead, isn’t the way they feel and their brain structure more important than their chromosomes?

Imagine, for example, you suddenly woke up tomorrow in a female body (assuming you’re a male), but with the same male brain as you have always had.

Would you want people to suddenly refer to you as female, just because your body was now female?

Or would you hope they would still think of you as a male, as your brain is male?

If it’s the latter, maybe it would be more thoughtful to try to refer to someone as the gender they say they feel they are; rather than the one they appear to be physically?

Personally, I didn’t think I even cared much about gender, until I started playing online games and people (who didn’t know me) just assumed I was male, all the time.

Then I suddenly realised it does kind of matter…

Being constantly referred to as “he”, when you are a she, is certainly not the end of the world, but it’s not ideal.

Luckily for me, the gender I know I am just happens to coincide with the gender I was born as; but not everyone is so lucky.

That’s nice.

Well done Anet – you handled the wording really sensitively too, I think.

Ithilwen.1529:

I think a lot of this is sour grapes. The zerk gravy train has been running for a long time. It’s refreshing as hell to finally be a factor as a condi Mesmer after years of struggling with being over nerfed.

This is something I’ve waited a very long time to say to the zerk warriors and rangers; LEARN TO PLAY.

Is it, really?

Funny, because most people say stuff like all the time.

They don’t wait.

Wanting balance is not sour grapes.

Jana.6831:

SirDrygan.1823:

When things changes, human nature is always trying to resist changes. Because people don’t like to get out of their comfort zone. And these is why people are raging about it.

Ok, you see the conditions at world bosses or whereever – would you like to have these condis used on you?
I don’t think so but it is happening in wvw as wvw has got the same rules like pve, justthat they forget about that game mode most of the time. And that is the issue – I don’t care if you guys melt world bosses in seconds.

Quite.

Part of the problem, is that you can choose your entire function based on your armour type and traits, at all.

In a game like WoW, the difference between armour is relatively marginal.

Your primary stat (i.e. the equivalent of Power) and stam (i.e. Vitality + Toughness, I guess) is just a baseline thing everyone has; you can’t opt in, or out, of either.

You have secondary stats, some of which are slightly better for your class than others; but you don’t have the situation you have here, where primary stats can be entirely substituted for other stats, meaning a completely different outcome.

Also, it seems ridiculous, to me, that we all have the same number of dodges.

Why on earth would a heavy armour class need as many dodges as a light, or medium, armour class?

I would maybe get it if you take stealth into account, but not all non-heavy armour classes have a stealth that is reliable, or that lasts a decent amount of time (e.g. Ranger).

3 secs, entirely reliant on hitting a target with your (badly nerfed at short range) longbow (a target which is probably trying to get behind you, at the time, BTW), is not totally useless in PVP; but it’s not too far from it, in many situations.

Add to that, that pets obviously don’t take player aggro and damage in PVP, as they do (to an extent) in PVE and the whole thing is inevitably going to be very out of balance.

When choosing who to gank, you see most people blatantly ignoring other classes and going straight for the ranger.

No class should be in that situation.

Zackie.8923:

it looks like crap to be honest.

They do look pretty bad in Best Performance/Auto-Detect settings, which I end up using in WvW, due to fps issues in zergs.

They just look like splodges of totally plain white, on other people’s characters; which is a shame, as they look quite nice and (obviously) detailed in Best Appearance.

It did put me off, because for the amount of time I get to spend in Best Appearance, they just weren’t worth it.

Also, they just hang there and/or sort of swirl around slightly, like a cape, rather than really moving, or behaving, like real wings would.

I’m fairly happy, ATM.

When I first looked at it, it seemed a little confusing, but once I got my head around it, it seemed like an improvement over what we had previously.

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

The only excusive item I do not have is the Mad memories Full edition, as I was in the hospital for surgery. I missed the Karka queen event as well tbh mostly due to the huge lag and the instance crashes. So I lost out on the 1st Karka Queen kill.but that’s it.

I really wanted mad memories, I tried to catch up with a huge bandaid over my freshly sown wound, bnuit I was to tired and failed to get the complete version, I still have the basic one… I tried to get it oince more using the repawning NPC’s in tghe last halloween and got the 3 basic books again, but to no avail..

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

The only excusive item I do not have is the Mad memories Full edition, as I was in the hospital for surgery. I missed the Karka queen event as well tbh mostly due to the huge lag and the instance crashes. So I lost out on the 1st Karka Queen kill.but that’s it.

I really wanted mad memories, I tried to catch up with a huge bandaid over my freshly sown wound, bnuit I was to tired and failed to get the complete version, I still have the basic one… I tried to get it oince more using the repawning NPC’s in tghe last halloween and got the 3 basic books again, but to no avail..

I think this says it all.

Do we really want people excluded from things, on the basis that they were in hospital at the time?

Is that anything to be proud of?

Of course it isn’t.

I made a TL;DR comment before, as I have talked about this subject so much, previously (elsewhere), I have bored myself.

But, just to clarify:

If you really like the way something looks, you don’t care how many other people have it, or not.

Whereas, if the only reason you think you like something, is because other people don’t have it and can’t get it, you should really reassess your priorities in life and work on developing your own, individual, sense of style.

…because it is far better to dress your char in the skin of a 2s pair of Leather Shoes, with style, than it is to dress them in an “exclusive” item, without any.

It’s not even like the quality of materials used is an issue, in a virtual world.

This game will probably always have to charge for vanity items, as that is how it makes its money.

But there is no need to add to that less than ideal situation, by creating artificial, time-gated exclusivity, as well.

TL:DR I disagree.

Well, I still tend to think it’s a perception thing.

Customers have a right to complain about products and companies, even if they do so in a fairly forceful, or direct, way.

What they don’t have a right to do, is to contact people’s personal email addresses, or accounts (unless they have been invited to do so, by the owner), or to make personal and/or offensive comments about people who work for the company (or about other customers).

Other than that, people can pretty much say what they like about the product, or the company; it’s just business, after all.

An exception would be a libellous, or defamatory, comment, but in this case, if it’s mostly based on perceptions about value, that is fairly unlikely.

I like the way it looks.

What I dislike, is that you can’t move the skills around on the skill bar (as far as I know).

Yeah, I’m put off playing light armour, as it almost all looks so super-girly.

I like feminine elements (particularly in accessories/auxiliary items), but I dislike my char looking as though she’s going to a red carpet event, full-time.

I’m put off playing heavy armour, as it’s almost all so heavy-looking and masculine.

Medium armour is better, but it’s still too coat-dominated and even of the very few tops that aren’t coats, one has dangly strap type things (where the bottom of the coat would be), which cut through my char’s legs.

TBH, I would settle for some fairly plain, close fitting, bodysuit type armour sets and/or outfits, just to avoid having to worry about it.

Morfedel.4165:

Tigaseye.2047:

chemiclord.3978:

Jerus.4350:

To me it’s pretty much because they’ve offered no real incentive to pre-order. You get to test their game for them, that’s your reward for giving them money now. It’s pretty typical to offer something for a pre-order, and with the inclusion of the base game they have offered a pretty sweet deal to new players. So it’s just another instance of them treating their new players while ignoring their current players, and people are upset about that.

(snipped for brevity)

But, that doesn’t change the fact that there’s no incentive to buy now.

And you know what? I fully support your decision to not pre-purchase based on what you’ve seen. That’s sound consumer thinking, to not put down money until you feel the product is worth the price.

Where I start cringing and rolling my eyes at the community is the hellbent insistence to be enraged that this MMO community tends to have in spades. Everything and anything a developer does seems to be steeped in malice. Every cost is borderline fraud. Every in-game change is a spiteful attack on their players.

Why can’t we tone the vitriol down? There’s so many ways to present our reservations rationally that doesn’t make the fan base look like 12-year-olds being told we can’t get three servings of cake for dinner.

Maybe that’s just the way you’re viewing it?

Maybe you used to be the 12 year old who wanted three servings of cake, so you now see that quality in others, even when it’s not there?

Because, the only thing I’m seeing, is people who feel they are being charged too much and/or feel that they should get an extra char slot/some other compensation for already owning the base game.

Which seems fairly reasonable.

…and the only bad type of comment I have seen, is the occasional person saying they dislike new players, so object to them getting the base game free, as it will attract more of them to the game.

There absolutely has been vitriol. Lots of us have seen it. I’m on my cell phone but if necessary when at a computer I’ll start bringing up linkable quotes.

Not all are still there. Like the one where someone was wondering if a class action lawsuit could be filed.

That example is not not vitriol; that’s just being a little overdramatic.

If the word “wondering” appears, it is unlikely to be followed by a vitriolic comment.

…and actually, if a lot of people had paid for the base game, because they had been told they would need it for the xpac and then the base game was provided free with the xpac and Anet wouldn’t refund their original purchase, they might be entitled to take some kind of legal action.

I hear Anet are refunding very recent purchases of the base game now, though.

chemiclord.3978:

Jerus.4350:

To me it’s pretty much because they’ve offered no real incentive to pre-order. You get to test their game for them, that’s your reward for giving them money now. It’s pretty typical to offer something for a pre-order, and with the inclusion of the base game they have offered a pretty sweet deal to new players. So it’s just another instance of them treating their new players while ignoring their current players, and people are upset about that.

(snipped for brevity)

But, that doesn’t change the fact that there’s no incentive to buy now.

And you know what? I fully support your decision to not pre-purchase based on what you’ve seen. That’s sound consumer thinking, to not put down money until you feel the product is worth the price.

Where I start cringing and rolling my eyes at the community is the hellbent insistence to be enraged that this MMO community tends to have in spades. Everything and anything a developer does seems to be steeped in malice. Every cost is borderline fraud. Every in-game change is a spiteful attack on their players.

Why can’t we tone the vitriol down? There’s so many ways to present our reservations rationally that doesn’t make the fan base look like 12-year-olds being told we can’t get three servings of cake for dinner.

Maybe that’s just the way you’re viewing it?

Maybe you used to be the 12 year old who wanted three servings of cake, so you now see that quality in others, even when it’s not there?

Because, the only thing I’m seeing, is people who feel they are being charged too much and/or feel that they should get an extra char slot/some other compensation for already owning the base game.

Which seems fairly reasonable.

…and the only bad type of comment I have seen, is the occasional person saying they dislike new players, so object to them getting the base game free, as it will attract more of them to the game.

Saiyan.1704:

Odyssey.2613:

My empathy for you ends when you are trying your best to separate my money from my wallet.

Anet didn’t call you on the phone wanting you to buy a service. If you don’t like the product don’t get it. No one is pushing you to do anything, you liberal.

How is that being liberal?

If anything, that is being conservative.