Guild Wars 2

Keep an eye on slickdeals.net, just a few days ago they had a Lenovo Y500 (refurb) with a i5 and dual 650m’s in SLI for $650. With a laptop and being that you are willing to run at lower settings means you will want a strong CPU, the smaller rez on most laptops and lower settings means you will be able to get away with a lowerend GPU, but will need a good CPU as laptop CPU’s are not the same at desktop, meaning that the i5 etc are really dual core. However, if you are willing to buy a refurb from the mfg, you can get a laptop that will play GW2 and even some WvW zerg play for right at the $800 mark. But don’t expect steady 30fps in EB with a ZvZ fight.

Don’t listen to the 5400rpm get an SSD type, it will not add to your FPS game play at all, also HDD speed has long done away with spindle rpm speed as a determining factor for throughput or seek times. This can be seen by a 10k RPM raptor drive vs a short stroked WD black drive to the same size, the black drive even though only being 7200rpm had better seek and throughput. As this relates to track density as well as head settling time, so if you have a denser platter with smaller tracks but slower RPM, it can be faster than a drive with higher RPM.

Not a problem. Remember, you can change it to the arrow keys or have them as a secondary, so your WASD keys still function as normal.

Under the options panel, bind the arrow keys to the same actions the WASD keys are.

Please upload your .dmp file, with BOSD without a dump file, we can do nothing, we need the info inside of that file to see what string was the cause of the crash.

Your network has nothing, at all to do with FPS in game, there is no relation to it in the least, even if you have massive skill lag etc the game will still be rendering frames at the same rate, that is all local hardware after the network. The network is just getting updates for whats going on and where everyone is etc, it does not have to do with rendering which all happens client side.

Gaming routers are also a joke in most cases and there are better routers on the market. However, as stated, so long as the router is working without problems you will see no gain from them. The higher end routers handle more connections and throughput and have more custom options then your run of the mill router. However, unless you are running a farm of computers with torrents on them or doing large 24/7 file transfers from computer to computer in your local network etc, you will see no gain from a highend router.

Redball.7236:

Mikau.6920:

I did not like this change at all. I prefer 8 sec, becouse it can be useful while running (The only way that I use it). Now will be only 4 sec instead of 8.

You’re reading it wrong, the symbol pulses 4(5?) times for 4 seconds, giving 16 seconds of swiftness with this new change. The old system gave you 8 if you had no swiftness, or only 1 if you did. It’s a massive buff.

So…You stand still for 4sec, making up no ground, and lose 4 secs of swiftness because you are standing still (and each stack is still going to count down), so you end up with only an effective 8 seconds of swiftness…and will still be behind people who just kept on going, sounds like a great idea, and this is also only in situations where you can stand still, in combat or when trying to get away, you are going to stand still for that long to get the same amount of swiftness as before? You will be dead by then.

This is only a buff to zergs where guards are dropping SoS when most people already have swiftness from static field blasting or shouts/horns etc, it will help with stacking even more speed for the zerg, but that is about it.

Why they just did not fix it to where it gives 8 sec with swiftness or not I have no idea, but that would have been the better move.

Yes, it’s a great mouse for them, the other mouse other people like without spending allot more money would be the razer naga, the G600 is great and you almost always know where your fingers are, the Naga is “faster” in that the buttons tend to be faster to access, but harder to know what you are pushing. So if you never forget where your fingers are, the Naga is good also, but if you want to be sure what you are pushing, the G600 is better, however they are so close to each other it’s really nitpicking.

When setting up the software, remember you have to make a profile then select the GW2 .exe file, or the programing and binding will never trigger. Then you have to set the bindings to all the right buttons on the mouse, also, the mouse has onboard and computer based programing, as well as multi alt switching and a “G” mode, so if you do not have it set up right or change a mode without knowing, all the bindings will have changed. Read the manual for it, set it up right, I have this mouse and use it everyday, it’s great and works without a hitch.

That is your problem, you don’t bind the keys in the game client, but in the mouse software, it will ask for a new profile, and you will select the GW2 .exe file, so when the game opens the mouse gets the bindings set for the game profile, you will then click on a picture of the mouse and its keys and change each key to what you want to it bind to in the game. Say you have a utility skill on 7 but want the G9 button (on the mouse) to activate it, you would click the G9 button and set it to 7, so every time G9 is pushed the game sees it as 7 being pushed.

I know many people who are good player…but could be far better with proper hardware set up and time to learn and get use to it. I had someone I played a FPS with, who I could toy with I was so much better than him, then I learned he was not using the really nice KB and mouse setup he had, and I set it up for him, needless to say, he hated it, so I set it up so he could not turn it off and forced him to learn it. Now…He can beat me at will while laughing, hardware and setup are a big part of maxing your ability, learn the mouse, take the time to set it up right and play with it for a good week without letting yourself change it back, it will take time, but once you learn the new setup you will start to notice how much more you are able to do.

Having seen people get in trouble for this, it is an exploit and not how they meant it. The gates are like other gates/walls, you should not be able to res a person through them, however, environmental mechanics allow the abuse of the res radius through the gates which are “thin” and allow you to get into range of the body to res. Most other commanders from other servers we have talked to about this also agree and will often times tell the map or go and find the person and tell them to release, and we do the same out of fair play and respect.

You upgraded your GPU for a game that does not make good use of GPU’s because of being held back by the CPU in most cases. Unless you are running a really high res or multi monitor setup, the old card was enough for GW2 and investment into a better CPU would have been better for GW2, other games not so much.

Check to see how your CPU is loading, don’t use task manager, use Process Explorer, it lets you see the threads being used and how much. If GW2 is using a single thread to 90%+ that is your bottle neck and as such will never mask use of more GPU power.

I have this problem, my i5 shows a 60% load and my GPU is around 50-60%, which seems odd untill you start looking deeper and find out that there is a single thread from GW2 that is maxing out. If a process is single threaded, it can move to any core and use any clock cycles, BUT it will never be able to use more clock cycles than a single thread of the CPU can supply, so even though all the cores look like they are only half way loaded, the thread the game is using is maxed out on clock cycles it can make use of.

winterlove.6834:

hmm well so far i have used a G600 mmo mouse from logitech and found that i used only a few buttons and was not at all worth what i paid cause still had the problems. i wondered why the keypad on the right dosnt work guess i gotta set those thanks for the tip. only thing iv customized is the side mouse button for dodge.

now when you say 1-5 use as w,a,s,d well w,a,s,d is only 4 letters so wheres the 5?

also yea i might try some other mouse’s out also to though imma plan on getting into battlefield 4 not sure in battlefield if ya need alot of numbers or not thats why i asked as a general gaming questyion what do people find easiest cause until recently i wasnt a big gammer and dont know anyone really who plays anything other then xbox but i prefer the pc games.

also too dont get me wrong i love this game but i plan on palying oen as a backup so i dont get biurnt out am here in gw2 for the long haul. i have a 7850 radeon but plan to drasticly upgrade that as well

If you bought the G600 (a great mouse) but never installed the software and set a profile for the game and set up key bindings, then all you have is a really expensive normal mouse. You HAVE to bind the keys, plugging in the mouse it will not know what you want those keys for, as the keys on the mouse are generic keys and can be made to do anything. They KB keys will still function, but the side keys on the mouse will also be bound to say, 1-5 or what have you, so when you push the button you want on the mouse it triggers the attack you would normally use the KB for, which allows you to use the WASD for movement, mouse or tab for targeting and mouse for actions (attack/heal/etc). This allows for allot better and faster game play, and really shines in WvW/PvP.

If you are using WASD for moving and 1-5 for attacking, that means you have to stop moving to attack or stop attacking to move, unless you have some VERY flexible fingers, I know I can’t do it well.

If you are hitting 92C you are already VERY hot and are into thermal throttling, most throttling (depending on chip) starts around 90C and peeks at TjMax before shut down for thermal protection. Are you resting the laptop on a table or something where it can breath or on your lap/pillow or other surface that would keep air from the bottom? Might want to invest into a good active laptop cooler to get some extra airflow under the laptop, the 30-40 bucks you spend on one can be well worth it.

Behellagh.1468:

OC cards are priced a bit higher to cover the warranty costs for failures. So it is in the manufacturer’s self interest to make sure those parts are stable at those speeds. eVGA has a 3 year warranty on all their cards.

So what’s better for the end user? OCing themselves (because even stock clock cards come with the tools to do it but you void your warranty) or buy one that the manufacturer OCs themselves and stands by it with a warranty for $10 more MSRP?

Depends on the mfg. Some mfg’s like EVGA allow OCing and even replacing heatsinks and the like, so long as when you send the card in for RMA it has no physical damage and has the OEM HS reinstalled.

I had one I sent back to them that was WCed, OCed to hell and had a custom BIOS flashed to it, talked with their support and was told so long as when they got it back it had the OEM HS/BIOS and there was no damage from the WCing that it would be processed. Sent it in and in a few weeks got a new card as a replacement.

So some times it pays to get a card from a better mfg with better support, but I would also not get the factory OCed cards, often times not worth the money are they are all priced close to the next tier of card, which offers allot more, however, sometimes you will find them on great deals or rebates.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

Hm… Well I see again that there are others who have experienced similar problems. This is unfortunate and I feel for those that have had this issue. It’s a pain in the behind.
It’s an obvious possibility that it is my computer that isn’t functioning properly and not the game. However due to the high volume of others that have had the same problem and with better computers, even in some cases worse, I find so unlikely.
I don’t plan to make any alterations to my system to support the game. I’ll look further in to it and if it happens to be my computer that’s the problem then I won’t continue to complain or to attempt to play. If my computer is fine, I’ll be giving ANet a phone call. Not that me doing so will change anything, but I’d rather take some form of action than to just feel like I’ve thrown my money out the window.

You are confused about other peoples problems.

The people who are having trouble with highend systems are getting well more than playable FPS, just not what they were expecting with such a system, which comes down to the game not making use of all the resources it has, which is not your case. In your case the game is trying to use MORE resources than the system has. Knowing now that it is a laptop makes the overheating suggestion the best case, laptops never run at a given clock speed, and even the ones listed as max are for a single core for a short time, the cooling setup on a normal, nongaming laptop is poor at best, and under heavy work loads will throttle down the CPU clock, seeing as you probably have no dedicated GPU in the laptop and the iGPU is built into the CPU die, that adds even more heat to the chip.

Also, minimum spec just means it will run the game, not that it will be “playable” or enjoyable. You have a system that does not even meet that, so you really have nothing to complain about.

You might be able to get back to the performance you had before by cleaning out the laptop (for dust etc), but this would require taking the laptop apart, or making sure its on a nice cooling pad when playing.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

“I apologize for my tone, ANet.”

Sorry, guys! I never asked for your help. This was directed towards the company, not you. But ’preciate the input, even if it was completely useless.

You asked for help by posting in the support forum. If you have something to tell the company, email them.

Our input was only as useless as the supplied information we had to work with.

Behellagh.1468:

Fine you don’t want help, you want to complain. Enjoy.

+1

So, you complain that the game is broken and though you openly admit to not knowing much about computers, you know because you read online that other people have problems with the game (which most are software/hardware conflict) it is not your computer, and don’t want to give any info about your setup or details on you problem etc and also admit that your computer does not meet minimum spec.

Yet you still want to post in the support forum and complain? Please take it else where.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

It isn’t the computer….my computer fell just short of supporting the game.

Cracks me up.

No one stops leveling, we all still gain xp, it’s just that the number does not tick over, we also get down leveled, and as already stated, it’s a good chance you are not going to find someone who has not already cleared said maps on another character, or two.

I am on CD, however, I am almost never on because of work, but feel free to add me in game. Not sure why you want someone your own level? Anyone can tag along or show you through maps etc etc.

Please define “crap”, what FPS are you getting? What settings are you using?

I told you it was the card, but if it’s hardware or software is unknown. Also, when uninstalling the drivers, don’t use driver sweeper, use the default uninstall, this is not the 90’s anymore, even AMD has far improved uninstalls, and driver sweeper has been known to cause problems.

You also did not give full specs or model of your computer or list GPU temps, if you don’t supply info and just come back with “I yanked it out” no one will be able to help you. You are hoping that this is a problem gw2 has, when it is probably a hardware or software conflict or corrupt install of something.

Does not matter if you have the newest, you uninstall and reinstall. The install the first time might have been bad. What are the GPU temps under load?

dmp file points to the GPU or drivers. Go ahead and DL and install the newest directx and video drivers for your card. Also post your system specs will help.

Since you want to WvW, posting the server you are on will help.

http://www.filedropper.com/

Why can’t you post the dmp file?

What do you mean by lag? Do you mean rubber banding or pushing skills and they blink but never cast etc etc, or are you watching a slide show and the screen “freezes” often?

Post your .dmp file. Should be located in c:\windows\minidump.

Throughput speed has nothing to do with gaming. It is all about latency to the host server. So one connection will take a different path or have many more hops to the same host server, you would need to know the path each one is taking and the problems that path has.

Acording to the screens and MSI you are running a really high OC on the GPU and the readouts suggest the OC is unstable, 100% GPU load but power draw only goes up to 40% or so under that 100% draw, which suggests the GPU is going into a limp mode, this is also shown in the low GPU temps under load. Set everything to default and see how it plays.

galandor.1059:

So basically what you are all saying is, I don’t need to go up to a 750 watt.

Way more than enough, I would be shocked in all truth if this build used more than 400W. My system, now with 4 more HDD’s, a WCed loop for the GPU and a pretty good OC on the GPU as well, pulls about 408W from my UPS (you can think of this as wall wattage), that’s while running IBT, kombustor and a few programs to load the HDD’s, which makes the computer draw more power than it ever will under normal use.

The down side today is people often way over buy PSU’s, and end up getting crappy brands/models that cause problems, which only (for them at least) proves they need even more power, when really all they needed was a well built 500W PSU.

It is not watts you need to worry about, it is amp draw, what has been stated about amp draw on a given rail is true and is why GPU mfg’s now suggest rather large PSU’s for a given card, they shoot really high because they know on a PSU that size it should have at least the amp capacity needed. The rig you want is probably close to around 28-29 amps on the 12v rail.

How good an adapter works depends on what modem/AP you have as well, if it is crap it will not matter what you buy. Also, a price range would help, as for wifi adapters Intel is hard to beat and for 34 bucks you can get something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106135

opazed.3462:

I really understand you guys, However, when the game runs, all goes very smoothly: I can battle and slay all those veterans; I walk in crowds with 4-5 enemies and still come out victoriously. So, as fas as I know, everything works fine. UNTIL I SWITCH AREAS… then the loading part begins and it takes ages…

(well, the glorious part is that i can talk to you guys everyday… Waiting for the next area (waiting for caledon forest now to get my daily))

I already made a ticket (answer is wait for future update)
I already did the advisory report
I already re-installed DirectX
I will probably soon add a better graphix card (hoping that would fix the “future update” thing ????

The GPU has nothing to do with loading times, the GPU processes visuals from the game. The loading screen is when the game is fetching data off the hard drive and putting it into RAM and VRAM, so you either have a slow HDD, which I doubt, any modern HDD should not take 15mins to load, unless you have programs in the background thrashing the I/O of the drive in question. So if that is not the case you have a bad/failing HDD or other problem with the system/game.

Radwulf.3902:

The inflation issue is common to all MMOs, coz everybody creates money and karma but 15% trading and the travel/repair costs are not enough for making these currencies to dissapear. Also you get the illusion that you have more money, but nowdays the money in this game is cheap, so you are no more rich than before. Btw, the money will be cheaper next year.

I would like to remember that this game, IMO has 4 games inside: sPvP, WvW, dungeons and open-world PvE. It seems like 80% of developing is focused on the last one. So, should sPvP, dungeon and WvW players go and play open-world events to earn money in order to play what they want to play after?

I understand the gemstore moves on the Anet machine, but now I’m talking about how actual players feel about new updates. Are we loosing interest coz Anet don’t mind (enough) about balance btwen parts/games of GW2? What about essence of these last and next updates focused in open-world PvE?

Inflation is common in any fiat money system, yes. However, just like in real world systems, when the created money is given to a set of people first they are the ones who see the largest gains and it causes the people who do not get it to be even worse off. It is just like today’s banking system, where money is loaned out from fractional reserve banking (inflation) and given to very well off companies/people, all it serves to do is make them more well off because they spend it at market value and not at the inflated value it will make the market into. So, those in WvW have not just the problem of being able to make money as easy, but are also surfing the second hand problem of the inflation of the market.

Radwulf.3902:

Neeho.3859:

DevonCarver.5370:

The mats will absolutely drop in WvW. In addition, generally speaking, we are putting a heavier emphasis on finding long-term solutions to redressing the reward imbalance between PvE and WvW. I can’t claim they will ever be 100% equal all the time, but we would like it to never be the case that you are choosing between playing WvW and getting good rewards. The two should be one in the same.

I can get 3-5g per hour in pve (Clockwork Chaos), OR I can get 3-5g per night (~4hrs) playing wvw. You have a long way to go.

Please, read this again just before next developer meeting. We all have jobs, wives, etc. I dont want to farm PvE to gear up my chars. I prefer to spend my time roaming borderlands coz at the very begining everybody told me GW2 would not be like LOTRO. You could play both pvp or pve, have fun and gear up your chars by different ways. You would not be forced to do raids/dungeons coz this GW2 is a fresh MMO.

If you want specific outfit for you axe you have to go to that specific dungeon, ok, perfect. But if you dont mind about pixels you can craft, buy, farm dungeons, wvw… That is nice. And buy different outfits for your armor with wvw badges is awesom. But, how about ascended weapons? Will we be able to get new best weapons by different and balanced ways?

I want to keep beliving Anet.

This hits the nail pretty good. I work long hours, most often 6-7 days a week, I am lucky to get an hour a day to play, so why should I be forced to play PvE for that short time to be able to buy anything? It has been a year with this imbalance and it has gotten worse, over this time it puts WvW players at a even bigger disadvantage, I have watched prices on items skyrocket because of inflation, but that inflation is for everyone, not just PvE players, it has gotten to the point with inflation that even a stack of food is out of reach if you don’t PvE. I did some PvE to make a few gold, I racked up more gold in a single night than I did in a month of WvW, if you guys can not understand how unacceptable that is for a game that used “play how you want” as a selling point, then you need to go get an honest job doing something else. Because it boils down to bait and switch.

Oculatus.7536:

SolarNova.1052:

Ah ok, a system like that using the programs you use and ofc it being payed for by a 3rd party ..it makes more sense. Even so, if i were you i still woulda got them to pay for a custom water loop :P Even if it meant just changing down to a 3930k. Just one ofthe changes, like the CPU ..or the GPU’s would have given enough money back to pay for the water loop. No harm done though if ur running at stock for computing purposes mainly.

I have sent a mail to a company who specializes in water-cooling, and told them to put together the best possible system for my GPU’s and CPU, so hopefully they will respond soon. I’m very busy at work, so I hope they can come up with a decent system for me.
At work I use a HP Z800 Workstation which cost double of my homecomputer, but on heavy calculations in Ansys my homesystem is faster somehow, so I believe I pay a lot for the name

You can not compare the cost of a custom home system over a workstation, you don’t pay for the name with a workstation or server, you pay for support and uptime, you are also comparing a system with a desktop gaming card vs a workstation with a Quadro or FirePro card, depending on the card, these can run well over $2k alone, and when it comes to rendering and professional programs, these cards will wipe the floor with a “gamer” GPU. The price for these cards also comes from support offered and very refined drivers, last thing you want to do is be hours or days into a render of some sort and have an error etc, time is money.

It is not your network, cleaver ways or not, you have no right to open ports or mess with their hardware/settings in any way.

Are you sure its only 15-20fps? Being that the GPU is pegged at 100% something is wrong, might be a bugged driver or any number of issues. How long did this run for? And is the GPU WCed? The temp is very low for 20% fan speed and 100% load, or did you just open GW2 and take a shot? If so let it sit for a while and post screens then.

Get your own network connection. Sounds like you are riding on their open wifi, which has either a filter in place or has a given port range blocked. The only way to change this is by access to the device that faces the internet, that being the router/modem. So you would need to contact the person who manages the network to add the game or open those ports so it can connect.

If you have that much free time on your hands the best way to go about it is to either go home, or quit and play on your own time and own network.

GW2 will not make much use of the extra threads on the i7, GW2 likes high clocked CPU’s with around 4 threads, so best thing for improvement would be to OC your current CPU. Your friends, on a general scale are right, however, they did not ask or know about the given game you are wanting to improve. Every game has different requirements, and GW2 hits the CPU hard. In most single monitor setups, a 670 will do fine, as of late my 670 will run at 98% with around 138fps, with a 4.5GHz OCed i5 2500k, however hit some large zergs and this frame rate will drop, not because of GPU power, as I drop GPU usage at these times, often times to 60-70%, CPU usage as a whole only goes up a little, however there is a single thread that gets maxed out and becomes the bottle neck. That is the problem GW2 has right now, and it’s a problem with the game engine, so don’t expect it to change. You have a OCable CPU, you should get a good cooler and try your hand at OCing a bit.

It still has poor performance because it is a problem with the old game engine, and rebuilding a game engine after release on just about any game is very unlikely to happen. We might see some changes or patches here or there that improve performance on lower end systems, but on the higher end stuff you will probably never see better performance than what you are seeing now. Maybe with the expansion we will see something (if we ever get one).

How much RAM do you have? Are you on a 64bit OS? How much RAM on your system is GW2 eating? Why do you think 64bit will help? A 32bit exe can use 4GB of RAM, I have yet to see GW use more than 2GB on my system.

Download OCCT and run the PSU test and see if the PC crashes.

So, you installed the game and when the firewall asked if you wanted to allow it to access the internet you clicked “no”? If that is the case, what firewall are you using? I am assuming the built in windows firewall?

A solid state disk (really? SSD with an “a” in front gets filtered?) will do nothing for his FPS or how the laptop plays the game, all it will do is help with loading screens. For GW2 you also don’t “need” more than 4GB of RAM. Most of the time GW2 will not use more than 2GB, also being that the system comes with 4GB of RAM it will more than likely have a 64bit OS to start with.

To the OP, is there a reason for needing a laptop? If you do not need one I would go for a desktop as you will get far better performance for the money. If it is because you travel allot and can only play on the go or can only have one system and need to be mobile, then it is not to bad of a laptop, don’t expect great performance, but it will play the game. Price wise, I can’t speak to it as I don’t know normal prices for your area.

Online games have very little to do with throughput speeds of a connection, most games use very little. What matters is quality of connection, that being response times, aka ping time to the server in question, or noise/dropped packets on your connection which can cause timeouts/disconnects. You need to run a line monitor to see how stable your connection is etc and don’t just depend on what speed tier you pay for.

You lowered most of the main settings that will cause a FPS hit, as well as checked to make sure all settings were right, you very well could have had something set wrong. And without seeing proof of FPS from the old setup and settings used vs the new, we will not know. Also, you take allot of shots at “Intel fan boys”, when we only seem to have an AMD one in this thread? The people suggesting Intel are not doing so because they want you to buy Intel, but because it is known and proven to perform better in this game over AMD, just simple fact at this point.

The video you posted, talked about 8 cores with the AMD and how that means in time with more multithreaded programs it will do better…When it is really 8 threads, the same as the Intel chip. Also, what kind of work are you doing? When speaking about work, such as renders or video encoding etc, you have to look at more than buy in price and look at running costs. in many cases Intel is much faster than AMD, and when waiting on a render etc to finish, that’s time and money wasted, then you also have to look at power costs as most all of Intel chips use far less power, so with less power draw and faster times to complete a given task, cost of running the setup and can be far less.

There are many factors to look at, but the bad news right now for AMD, is even in the best cases, where it’s new chips shine, it is often only on par with current Intel chips. As for the game, we can put blame on Anet, or a third party, or whoever you like, it will not change how the game runs. The only thing we can do is suggest the best hardware for the current state of the game, which right now, is a newer Intel quad, preferably over clocked, with a mid range GPU depending on monitor setup.

Avelos.6798:

Well, from what I’ve heard, Phenom II kinda kicked Core 2 around and that the release of the i3, i5, and i7 was Intel’s response and so far AMD has not been able to beat it.

Not at all, the gaming side of things the core2 was the kitten, PII was what? Late 2009? And that was dual cores, Intel already had the Q6600 on the market long before then, probably one of the longest lived CPU’s on the gaming side of things in a while, by the time the PII quads hit Intel had the Q9xxx line out, which where beasts and OCed so easy, had more instructionsets, used less power etc etc. AMD has been draging behind in the gaming area for a while now unless we are talking casual gaming, bang for buck allot of the AMD systems will run those kind of games just fine.

Svarty.8019:

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

Svarty.8019:

This is a part of the larger problem: thieves in general.

They require a lot of attention from Mr Peters and co.

Thieves are fine.

If by “fine” you mean “overpowered”, I agree.

They are not OPed at all, just annoying and the ability to troll and reset fights whenever they like, if they stick in the fight and I 1vs1 them, it’s often an easy kill for me, though I have run into two very skilled thieves and funny enough they were not perm stealth builds, but still very slippery and high dps.

I also agree with removal of the downed state, I killed you and won, there is no reason that because your buddy stomped someone else you should get another go at me. It also gives the upper hand to larger groups as with enough players who keep getting up the downed you can almost never pick them off, sure, everyone can use the downed state, but the benefit starts getting lopsided when you get large teams.

Case in point, my team (12) trying to take garri, they had a mass of 30-40…We held them for about 15-20mins, they could never push us, however, because of sheer number they just keep getting up the downed, it makes having a smaller team of skilled players very useful even when confronting far larger numbers if they are not organized.

Who is your ISP and what modem/router do you have? It is probably blocked by your router/firewall and not at the ISP level.