Guild Wars 2

What rez are you running? Is your GPU running at 90-100% while in game? Are you overclocking your CPU? What kind of FPS are you getting now? Unless running really high rez the 6850 should be able to handle the game on higher settings ok, and if you are not OCing that CPU you are missing out on allot of almost free performance, so you might be better off investing into a good CPU cooler and trying your hand at OCing if you are not already.

Fermi.2409:

Behellagh.1468:

Equal in percentage overclock or equal in clock speed. Asking because if you are talking clockspeed then you are just resurrecting the “megahertz myth” that different CPUs can do the same amount of work in the same number of cycles and that’s never been true.

I meant that if you take a 4670k and overclock it by 10%, you’ll see a gain of 10% performance in CPU limited situations. However, if you overclock an FX-8350 by 10%, you won’t see a 10% gain in CPU limited situations, it’ll be somewhere less.

TinkTinkPOOF.9201:

Intel is king right now on thread performance, AMD has not kept up with that going the side of more threads, which is fine for multitasking or highly threaded programs/games, and the new AMD chips do very well vs its Intel counter part in these areas, but when you run into games or programs that are not made to make use of all threads, you have problems, and that’s it here. Could/should Anet made GW2 make better use of more threads in this day and age? Yes. But not really a fault of Anet for AMD vs Intel, AMD made a choice in direction which has affected it in the gamer side of things, however AMD has even stated they don’t much care about it, as the PC gaming market is very small compared to sales to OEMs, which is where the money is and AMD needs income, so the choice they made was a smart one. So AMD is not, nor is it trying to keep up with Intel on the highend, they are shooting for cheap high thread count CPU’s, and they are hitting that market very well.

Exactly. In general use, AMD takes the cake, especially on a budget. Games are just where they really fall behind.

Also, long time no see. Gale of Flyff here- I still remember having a couple decent computer related discussions with you.

Gale?? WTF. What server are you on? You still talk with Tayler? If so she never told me you played GW2, I am on CD.

The sad part about AMD vs Intel, is if devs today made games more parallel, the few games out there that can make use of 8-12 threads do great on AMD chips, right up there with it’s Intel counter part. And the more down the road we get, the more we see of this, I think AMD’s plan will pay off in the next few years when just about everything is being written with multithreaded in mind, but untill we reach that point AMD is going to lag behind, not because it can’t keep up, but because games/programs don’t make use of the power it does have.

Intel is king right now on thread performance, AMD has not kept up with that going the side of more threads, which is fine for multitasking or highly threaded programs/games, and the new AMD chips do very well vs its Intel counter part in these areas, but when you run into games or programs that are not made to make use of all threads, you have problems, and that’s it here. Could/should Anet made GW2 make better use of more threads in this day and age? Yes. But not really a fault of Anet for AMD vs Intel, AMD made a choice in direction which has affected it in the gamer side of things, however AMD has even stated they don’t much care about it, as the PC gaming market is very small compared to sales to OEMs, which is where the money is and AMD needs income, so the choice they made was a smart one. So AMD is not, nor is it trying to keep up with Intel on the highend, they are shooting for cheap high thread count CPU’s, and they are hitting that market very well.

As for the pushing buttons and seeing the icon animate, that is not a performance or FPS problem, that’s a server lag problem, one that has gotten very bad in prime time in WvW, and Anet has done nothing to fix it. I have this problem and can show you screens with it happening while keeping a stable 70FPS+.

Infares.2841:

Oh yeah, you can bet on it. :p I wonder how many other people need to be saved from bad PSUs? Kinda surprising something would be marketed as a gaming PSU and then as soon as a marginally demanding game shows up it starts clicking off your computer. >:O

Why? To sell units.

This is why you never go by marketing, but rather go by reviews like Jonnyguru, there is no such thing as “gaming” anything, and that’s the first red flag to spot when buying PC parts. Most of the really good stuff is known as such and have very little marketing and just hard numbers, while the cheaper stuff tends to spend allot on flashy boxes and catchy words.

I would also take back the CM and get a good unit, this is why I said to list models and makes of what they have in stock, CM, over all, has kittenty PSU’s. The line you bought from is pretty bad as well. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Extreme-2-475-W-Power-Supply-Review/1550/11

I believe bestbuy has Corsair PSU’s, any of theirs will be better than the ones you have gotten thus far.

SolarNova.1052:

Not really. Your above the AMD stock max temperature.

You should be around 40-50c, maybe 50-60 at max load at a push, and alot lower than that at idle.

Without knowing what program hes using and what it has TjMax set at, his readings could be wrong. Temps are high, as stock it should stay around 60C full load, willing to bet it was seated poor or has bad TIM contact and the dust build up showed a problem that was already there.

Avelos.6798:

SolarNova.1052:

Software cant cause a overheat.

Yes it can. There has to be a lot of workload for that to happen though. Like, stupidly high workloads. Inconceivable amounts.

In a system that is working as it should, no software will overheat the CPU, even running programs like IBT, the stock cooler will keep it under TjMax, if it does not, there is a problem or the system is running in a very hot environment.

What did you pay for it? Newegg has been having some of their builder PSU line on sale with MIR for as low as 29 bucks for a 500W unit, not the best units, but not bad either. Let us know the brand and models of PSU’s they have, just because it is a well known brand does not make it good, as most PSU’s on the market are rebranded, there are only a few places that make PSU’s.

The high number is often the mobo socket temp, which is known for being off, on one of my older system it would read as 489C, needless to say it was not that hot, I also had one read -36C. Temps that high and something would be burning, so the reading is probably mobo socket and an error.

Also, no, TT is not a good brand.

Your system will not play GW2 in any meaningful way. That x1250 (onboard) GPU, is about 400% slower than the HD2000 onboard from Intel and the minimum suggested for GW2 is the HD3000. Also keep in mind that is minimum, that just means it will run the game, not that it will be playable.

ThermalTake used HEC for the OEM on the TR2 PSU’s, which means they are crap, not that I would call ANY of the TT PSU’s good. They are cheap, and it shows, take back the PSU and get something better, problem or not, it’s always good to have a good quality PSU. I am assuming you bought this local? If so, what brands do they carry and what models?

When does this happen? large events or WvW? GW2 is CPU bound and your CPU is probably holding you back, I have a i5 2500k OCed to 4.8GHz and it still holds back my GPU. GW2 does not make use of the extra threads very well and does better on fewer higher clocked threads.

Oh yes, it is a hunt, and for the most part, Intel/AMD or AMD/Nvida, for the most part its about fan boys, or which has the best MIR at the time, only in very few cases, where you only play ONE game does branding matter, as sometimes you will run into games that play better with one over another. But other than that it can be hell to sort through. This is why MS has pushed into hardware side of things, they are wanting more control over the hardware running their OS, this first started with the “Vista certified” stuff, because when MS came out with the new OS and driver system in Vista, most all the third party hardware mfg’s sat on their hands thinking nothing changed, then when it came out and no drivers worked on it and hardware caused crashes and BSOD’s, to users, this meant it was Vista that was crap, when it was really poor driver support from the hardware they were using.

So best thing is quality parts, and knowing what your goal with the system is.

Ricky.4706:

unfortunately, I’m finding that more and more developers are doing more poor coding, so in effect, I find that we don’t really upgrade to have new features but to compensate for errors. It seems that the more power we get, the more bugs are are tolerated as acceptable.

In fact, I dare even to say that this is why mac’s had an edge at one point, it wasn’t so much that their systems were better – but the software was very well made.

Mac’s had a closed ecosystem, while windows had to deal with crappy hardware and poor to no driver support from thousands of vendors, it’s not that Mac/Apple systems were better or the software was made better, it’s that it only had to deal with a single set of hardware/drivers, and when you only have that to deal with it is very easy to make a stable system, just look at all the people who just wanted to add another GPU, even from the same family tree, it was a nightmare if it could be done at all. This is another reason devs go for consoles, you have one or two hardware/software setups to program for, so it’s easy, and when they come to port to PC, that just really don’t give a kitten as they already made their money off it and are just trying to milk somemore out of it.

Ricky.4706:

yeah, then upgrade again next year when all the cheap parts aren’t good enough!

Games have not been leaps and bounds more demanding like they did in the good old days of PC gaming, since the consoles came into the market you have a stretch of 5+ years at a time where games stay the same as they are all ports, the demanding games being really poor ports that just perform bad, kinda like GW2, you reach a point with hardware of diminishing returns because its a poor/old engine and not a hardware issue (to a point). Every now and again we will have PC only games that push the limits of current hardware, but that’s not often and they are almost always more than playable on the normal systems, just don’t expect to max them.

When the new gen of consoles come out we will see much better games, graphically speaking hitting the market again, and only then will we be making use of the hardware we have had for years in the PC. They have been so slow to improve, where it use to be you had to upgrade your whole PC just to play a game, today, games are so undemanding of the hardware its pretty common to see triple monitor setups for gaming because the games are just not pushing the hardware anymore.

Something everyone forgot to ask….What will this computer be used for? What monitor rez will you be running? You said nothing about the old computer other than it sucked, so with that in mind I am very doubtful it was a newer computer and as such probably has DDR2 RAM where the new build will need DDR3, so reusing the RAM might not be an option.

A 750W PSU is far and away over kill and getting a PSU way out of range puts a harder load on the PSU, it puts out more heat and efficiency drops, you want to load a PSU around 60-70% and no more than 80% for continuous load. My system (in sig) pulls 380-400W from my UPS, so thats AFTER the PSU waste, so my whole system is pulling about 350W from the PSU at load in GW2 (everything other than SS maxed). People over buy PSU’s all the time, save some money and get a 500W psu, or spend the same money and get a really nice well made 500W.

SSD is a waste, it will make the day to day system feel awesome, and load times (from map to map) faster, but will do nothing for FPS or game play.

If all you are looking for is a gain in GW2 the i5 is the choice. An i7 will not help, you will be better off with a i5 and OCing, if you plan on OCing. Also, watercoolers are over priced, get a good aircooler and enjoy, AIO watercoolers are for cramped cases where a tower cooler will not fit, the top of the line aircoolers will do just as good as the top AIO, however the aircoolers are often much quieter. Don’t spend the money in the wrong places, be smart about it and make the best use of what you have to spend.

Avelos.6798:

Then I can pose to you that then OP would have to buy a more powerful powersupply unit to support the GPU, if OP needs to buy one anyway. I think he should just get the most without spending as much as possible and just get a 650 or a 650TI and a power supply if needed.

Most OEM units have almost no amperage on the 12v rail and almost everything on the 5v rail, we would not know unless the OP listed his PSU or it’s ratings. However it could be possible he might be able to get away with it, it depends on if he bought it with the GPU to start with, sometimes the OEM will use a PSU with a few extra amps on the 12v rail then. However, even still, for the price of the 650Ti boost he could get a 560Ti and a good PSU which would also support future upgrades and could be moved into a new computer if he ever bought/built another.

Avelos.6798:

TinkTinkPOOF.9201:

For the same price of a 650Ti or even 650, you can get a 560Ti used and have close to twice the GPU power.

Ahah, no that’s not true. 650 TI and 560TI are pretty even now and I think it’d be safe to say the 650 TI BOOST beats the 560TI because Kepler is amaaaaaaaaaazing

The highest end 650Ti “boost” models are still 12% behind the 560Ti base model. And yet the 560Ti can be had for the price of the 650, the 650Ti SC/BOOST etc models are about twice the price of what you can find a 560Ti for, and many of those are the SC 560Ti’s. So yes, the 560Ti beats the 650 really bad in everyway and also beats the 650Ti BOOST models.

For the same price of a 650Ti or even 650, you can get a 560Ti used and have close to twice the GPU power. It is almost always better to go with a mid to highend card from the last gen than a low end card from the new(er) gen.

Laptops are never “decent” gaming systems, the problem with GW2 is that there is a single thread that bottlenecks everything, and laptop CPU’s, while they might be quadcore+ are far lower clocked on each thread than their desktop counterparts, so running a lower clocked CPU on a game that requires fewer, but higher clocked threads is just asking for bottlenecks and lower FPS. It has never really been talked about by anyone with any say on if this will be fixed, however, I would not count on any major fix for this problem as it is very large and would require allot of programming to fix. So if we do see a fix for it, it will probably be at the same time we get the expansion.

So, lower settings and try to see what gives a FPS boost, or get a desktop, or cross your fingers that they are listening and fix this problem in the expansion or sooner.

You don’t need water cooling to hit 4.8GHz, air can do that just fine. The clock speed matters allot because there is a single thread that becomes the bottleneck, if that thread was split up unto more cores we would not see this problem or it would be far less, as most computers today are coming with 4+ cores and are not being used, hurting performance on those systems. And yes, sometimes you can tell their servers are having problems, this is something they could and should have fixed some time ago and it is sad to see that they have done little if anything to improve it. However, it has been shown and proven time and time again, WvW takes a back seat to….Well….Everything. As most of these problems are only in WvW, and when they do happen in PvE it is pretty rare and you can live with, while in WvW seconds matter and it is also a much more common occurrence.

I’m on CD as well and my gf plays the same server, we also have about 3-4 girls in TS on raid nights often, 2 of them being commanders. Add me in game if you like we do pve/wvw.

Zera.8907:

It’s down for me as well. Can’t connect to Blackgate, Dragonbrand, or Jade Quarry. Please investigate.

No need to investigate, it’s being updated, we just don’t know why.

Ricky.4706:

theoretically speaking it might be possible to reach gw2 nirvana – ironically enough with a few mac’s – this is one feature that mac has a great advantage over pc on power – you can link up mutiple macs together to get more cpu power. – I know that Apple logic pro has that feature – for creating more real time audio processing power. – now if that code is available to the general public is another question. – I wonder if that is possible for window’s pcs – sort of like a render farm.

For large problems clusters works well, however for realtime renders like gaming this would just not work, the latency added by the networking and over head would just not work, also, we already have CPU’s on the market with more threads then the game will make use of, which makes the extra threads from more CPU’s pointless, it is not about CPU power, but the games parallelism and use of CPU threads. It also has nothing to do with MAC’s as clusters are used by all sorts of computer systems, you have to remember there is nothing special about MAC’s, they are PC’s, just running a *nix OS.

Reincarnated.1754:

TinkTinkPOOF.9201:

Veeber.3192:

Reincarnated.1754:

So I would like to know who the bill goes to for the new mouse, keybord and replacment window goes to?

Send the bill to your parents.

Indeed, though it probably would have been cheaper to buy a better computer that can play the game.

You are probbaly right.
I go look what I need

https://en.support.guildwars2.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1119/session/L3RpbWUvMTM3MDcxNTE3Mi9zaWQvR1ozYVJlc2w%3D

Windows® Minimum System Requirements

•Windows® XP Service Pack 2 or better
•Intel® Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz, Core i3 OR AMD Athlon 64 X2, or better
•2 GB RAM
•NVIDIA® GeForce® 7800, ATI X1800, Intel HD 3000, or better (256 MB of video RAM and shader model 3.0 or better)
•25 GB available HDD space
•Broadband Internet connection
•Keyboard and mouse

I have Windows 7 = Better
AMD Phenom II 64 X4 3.2Gz = Better
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 = Better
500 Gb HDD Space = Better
100 Mbit Broadband = I would like to know what speed is needed?
Keyboard and mouse = In the post hahahahaha

Thanks for your comments)

I have a new question.

The above requirements are the minimum Specifications reqiured, (I can only think ppl who have that play the game in black and white)

What would be the minimum required specifications needed to have to be able to turn all the options on maximum?

btw
I Don’t Expect An Answer, I don’t think anyone knows.

The game plays does it not? Then what you listed is right, those are minimum specs for the game to run, they make no claim to enjoyable/lag free game play, just that a computer with those specs should run the game.

This is what people misunderstand, the minimum required to run the game and the minimum required to run the game “maxed” are worlds apart. And in the cases of people running multi displays, probably does not even exist.

Draw distance and the things you see in the world at any range are rendered by the GPU. It can be a bit confusing to some people how the CPU and GPU work together and what each one does, allot of people think they are all doing the same thing and if one is slower than the other it bottlenecks the system, and this is not true, the CPU and GPU handle their own side of things, MMO’s are almost always harder on the CPU than most other games because of what is going on in the world, you see, the CPU handles things that are happening, the logic, dmg, items etc in the game, everything that happens in the game is going to be done by the CPU, however all the things that are happening have to be rendered so you can see them, so the GPU then renders them so that we can see them. That is why in large zergs or world events the CPU hits a bottleneck on systems with good GPU’s, because the game is not threaded enough to be able to use most higher end CPU’s to their full extent, and the more stuff that is going on, on screen, the more people, locations, items, skills, logic etc etc the CPU has to deal with, and as such not being able to feed the GPU fast enough, and you get “lag” spikes even though the GPU is only at 50-60% load. Keep in mind this is an over simplification of how it works, but you get the idea I hope. So if you are getting low FPS because of things that far off, it is probably due to GPU and not CPU, as the things far off are very simple forms and most of the time static, as players and active items are not shown until pretty close and there already is a setting for lowering the complexity of far off items, depending on how close you want to be to things before they are rendered in full.

hoegarden.4287:

You can also check the BSOD dump files that are created. In there you will see what went wrong. And then you can fix it.
You can find those files in c:\windows\minidumps
If you have trouble reading them, just put them online so we can take a quick look and help you out.

This indeed is the best way we can help you, post the .dmp files and we can go over them and see whats making the system unstable. A game will not cause a system to BSOD, it will always be the sub system it runs on, the only thing a game can ever really do to BSOD a computer is when the PC is not being cooled well enough be it fault of the cooling system, lack of cleaning, or hot environment, causing the system to over heat and shut down. Other than that, it is going to be driver/hardware/corrupt install related.

So you had GW2 installed to E drive or you had the OS on E drive? What OS did you come from and what did you go to? Did you do an upgrade install or full install?

The info you gave I would not even consider basic, so yes, get “technical”. We need model of GPU, not vague series number, we need CPU model number and any OC’s you have on it. Model of RAM and amount, what OS are you running? Supersample is going to kill about any setups FPS, and you are not going to get a stable 60 FPS on any rig right now if your play includes zergs or WvW, you can give up on the 60FPS now.

Without knowing hardware and gaming resolution etc there is nothing for us to do to help.

Lalangamena.3694:

Ace.1726:

I don’t know what model it is but I do know that it has 500 watts.

I’ll check out the 660ti now.

even PSU 550W cant run 660ti no matter what the manufacturing box says…
you will need to upgrade your PSU to 650 or even 700 w in order to run 660ti smoothly.

Just wrong, in every way.

A 660Ti can indeed run on a 550W PSU, it can even run on a 300W PSU with 25A on a 12v rail. People get far to caught up in wattage which means nothing, it is all about amp draw. A good PSU with most of the power on the 12v rail will be able to power the card no problem, even if the “wattage” is low. Now, over buying a little does not hurt, but saying a 550W PSU can’t power a 660Ti is just not true.

Two of the best I have seen are the RAZER Naga and the Logitech G600, both have about the same button count and are well made, the G600 is heavier, and has better feel for button placement, you almost always know what you are pushing, the Naga you don’t have much to tell you where your finger really is, HOWEVER, because of that hitting buttons is much faster, so if you are the kind of person who never loses track of hand/button placement, I would probably get the Naga, if you like to be sure of what you are pushing the G600. Another big factor other than this, is feel in your hand, you really do need to feel them both yourself to know, but coming from a cookie cutter mouse like that, I am sure either will feel far better.

I myself use the G600, and you JUST missed out on a sale last week where the Naga was $40. Normal price is going to be about 60 for either, but it would be well worth putting 20 more in and getting one, they are both better than whatever else you will be looking for in that range and will have enough buttons to keep you going for a while.

Ilithis Mithilander.3265:

Well, assuming your resolution is 1920×1080 and you want 60FPS in the areas of the game that aren’t CPU bound, you’re likely looking at a GTX 660Ti/GTX570/GTX 760 (doesn’t exist yet) or HD 7870XT.

Not CPU bound I would guess even less than that, my 670 does not hit 40% load in most cases, I gave my GF my old GPU (560Ti) and gets better than that, however she hits a CPU limit often (WvW) because its a non-OCed 2500k, and she runs with everything at max I believe, I will have to ask her again, but last I remember that’s what she was getting.

So what you listed I would say are way more than safe bets on not being GPU bound, and would probably do fine with a 560Ti or the like, rest will probably be CPU bound. Good thing about the 560Ti is they can often be had for a good deal 2nd hand, but if you have the money to spare, getting the bit higher end cards suggested would not hurt by any means.

Ashley Segovia.8276:

Hi there! I’m not sure what you mean by a translation of the game’s system requirements for laptop users. The requirements are the same for both laptops and desktops. Are you concerned about whether or not a certain aspect of your hardware meets the minimum requirements? If this is the case, please share your system specs so we can give you an answer!

I am pretty sure they mean how model numbers etc are not the same on a laptop, like a 7970m is nothing like a 7970 desktop part, same with CPU’s etc, this can be confusing to people buying computers.

I am not at home and am on my phone, so I will get back on later and post some info that might help you making a choice, however, my first bit of advice would be to get a desktop if there is anyway to do so, if you get a laptop just to get one, you will always be let down with the performance vs a desktop in the same price range.

I don’t think its broken, but I would love to see a auto loot system also, sometimes I get into fights that are prolonged, and I can’t spam F all the time because of randomly spawning bags, in PvE this is not so much a problem because PvE is so easy and mobs don’t place much of a problem, you also don’t have to worry about a massive zerg moving in, I can’t count how many times I am cleaning house with a few people getting bags everywhere but sticking with the fight and not worring about trying to push F to get all the bags, thinking once we wipe I can come back and get them…Then a big zerg moves in and wipes us, head back and they are still there holding the area etc not being able to get them. I think this kind of loot system just does not fit PvP, players and the dynamic they make, are nothing like PvE and we can’t always go back for loot or clean up after a “wave” etc, so a true auto loot system would be much welcomed.

Also, the zerging comments, good lord this is getting old, it’s WvW, you are going to have zerging, it’s a part of WvW, I see nothing wrong with it, or why people running in a larger mass should be punished, this coming from a solo roamer most of the time, almost never run with a zerg, so they do nothing for me, but steam roll me when I get caught off guard flipping a camp or killing another (what I thought was) solo roamer.

If you don’t like it because of FPS problems, get a better computer or stay out of the fight, or move to another BL or even lower tier server, there are more than enough ways to avoid zergs.

What res are you gaming at? A single monitor set up a 7970 will max just about any game, 2 is only needed really for multi monitor setups, and if you got it for GW2, you without a doubt wasted the money.

OCing will depend on what mobo and cooler you have, if you have the stock cooler you will not be OCing at all, please list full system specs. OCing the corei CPU’s is very easy.

Looks like GPU artifacts. DL MSI afterburner and kombuster, post temps in game from afterburner and after running kombuster for 15mins. Specs and parts list ect of your system would help, if you don’t know, you can run and post a log file from game adviser.

Sounds allot more normal, being that only 3 of the cores are being loaded it should not hit very high temps at all.

Assuming single monitor setup, most mid range cards will max GW2 just fine, the limiting factor will be the CPU, GW2 does not have allot to render, which is what the GPU does, however, world updates are done by the CPU, and GW2 does not make good use of 3+ core CPU’s and so having a faster clocked 3+ core CPU matters more. Depending on where you live, the 78xx and 79xx cards are the best bang for buck right now.

I have a GTX670 and in normal WvW and PvE I get around 114FPS with everything on maxed, world events sees a drop, but in most cases its 70-90FPS, WvW in large zergs though there is a single game thread that just murders the FPS and often times I will be in the 40’s, however most people see far less than this, I get better FPS because I have my i5 at 4.5GHz, if I push it higher I see far better FPS in WvW and my GPU most of the time only hits 40% load. If they change this at some point, it will be much easier for people to max this game out, even in WvW.

Seems to be allot of misunderstanding about DX, you would not need a GPU upgrade unless they remade the whole game as DX11 only, most games out today that use DX11 also work with past DX types, however the person with a DX9/DX10 card would only be able to make use of the eye candy each card can handle. Also, many, MANY people are still using XP, so even with the right hardware, someone on XP will never be able to use DX11. They stated a long time ago that adding DX11 features mught happen, if it does, people with DX11 cards and OS’s will be able to see some new things while people with under OS’s or hardware wont, so I don’t think they will be adding new DX11 only content, and rather just some DX11 features/eyecandy, things will just look better over all on the DX11 systems. Will this happen? doubtful, but I guess it depends on how long the game lives for and I think the biggest chances for it will be at the time of the expansion if we see one.

Greyfur.1082:

yesterdays temps http://d.pr/i/ZIl9

Today after the testing http://d.pr/i/XXzB

I have no clue but it seemed to have fixed its self.

Doubtful, it probably had/has the wrong TjMax setting and as such computed the wrong temps, also only run one temp program at a time, running more than one can cause read errors.

There is no program in the world that can read the real temp of a CPU core, all these programs use a guessing ratio. The CPU has a built in TjMax, which it has sensors for, but these are NOT for reading temps, but telling the CPU and BIOS when it hits TjMax and when it needs to shut down for over heating, these programs guess real temp based off of the distance to TjMax that the sensor is reporting, so if it has a TjMax of 100C and the program reads it’s 10% from TjMax then the program guesses that the core temp is 90C.

I would also suggest deleting speedfan and sticking with coretemp, AMD even recommends coretemp for temp monitoring.

Also keep in mind the CPU you have has a TjMax of 99C, however that is the shutdown temp, normal load temps you want to keep under 71C.

That is because you need to go to C:\windows\Minidump, the other path is not so much a path as a environment variable, which value is the location of the system directory, I list this one also because sometimes the system directory might be on another named drive, default is C, but that is not always used, so giving the variable it will always point to the system directory no matter its install location.

In either case, use the variable to get to the folder and copy the dmp file to the desktop to make it easier to find, or when in the upload window follow the path to C:\windows\Minidump

Are you have problems or errors? Please DL CoreTemp and DL IBT (Intel Burn Test) and run it and see what your max core temps are.

The log will be in

%systemroot%\Minidump

%systemroot%\Minidump

Increasing the voltage of all of those sounds like you were messing with them in the first place, default voltages should be more than enough to be stable, and if not makes me think something else is wrong. Also just upper voltages can be harmful as you can put a system over spec and end up burning things up.

You should post system spec and voltages of everything you changed.

Both the CPU and GPU are lower end, however going into WvW tends to hit the CPU harder with the player count. I am guessing this is a prebuilt system? We will need to know the full system spec and make/model, many off the shelf system are limited on any kind of upgrades to the CPU that can be done and will also involve a full OS reisntall. The CPU you have is a 1155 socket, which means it will fit allot of newer CPUs, however that does not mean the mobo will work with all of them or that it is not BIOS locked.

Please post the .dmp file from the BSOD’s.

heXus.8392:

Do you think make something for fix the WvWvW lag problem ? Nobody use skills or anything over 30+ ppl in same place. Forexam while taking or defending SM….

I’m playin lowest settings.
I have 8Mbit net.
1GB 256BitVGA,
64Bit 4core cpu,
4gb ram.

If u wanna be angry pls go EB and just play 5 mins.

Thanks for answers. (I dont hope so but…)

Are you talking about loss of FPS or are you having skills not work and still getting 30fps+?

The Last Hobbit.6492:

It’s absolutely awful for me too and I’m on 78mbit fibre-optic BT Infinity.

I have very little issue elsewhere, even at large-scale world events it’s not too bad.

But in WvW, around large fights, the lag is insane. Skills often take 10+ seconds to activate, I find myself running into door portals for 10 seconds, then rubber banding back for another 10! (Bear in mind, that during this whole issue, my FPS is a steady 60.)

Unplayable.

Considering I’ve completed everything else, I’m kind of at a loss. I’ve got very little else to do on GW2.

Bandwidth has nothing to do with latency. As for the large WvW fights where you get a steady 60fps, I will have to call BS on.

You can turn LLC off and see if it is still stable, LLC is what ups the voltage under load, if you have a very low voltage sometimes it is needed for the bump at load to keep stable, while allowing a lower idle voltage, so turning off if it is on now should lower temps even more, though it might not be stable under load, in which case you would need to turn it back on. I don’t know what mobo or chipset you are using, but it will not change core temps, so it might be best to leave north bridge voltages alone, they often don’t get very hot under stock volts, and under volting it might limit how low you can go on the CPU voltage, which is the bigger problem here temp wise. Play around with the voltages and run IBT after each change, see how low you can get with it and still stay stable.

The stock coolers are just fine, however they should not be expected to keep up with OCing, as you are putting the CPU outside of its TDP at that point. There are many good cheap coolers, often times under 20 bucks, the down side to this is where you live, as prices outside the USA are often much higher for computer parts.

Limiting your self to staff/gs/staff is putting unneeded restrictions on both classes, I play guard as main and carry one of every weapon and 2 extra sets, mostly WvW.

1.36v is a little high for stock volts, I know people well over 4GHz with less. Try setting it to 1.25v and see if it is stable and set LLC to the lowest setting. If it is not stable at 1.25v work your way up until it is stable. What brand is the TIM? Almost all TIM’s are the same when we are talking about brand names, it will only be the TIM if it is of unknown make.

You can also try changing the cooling settings to a performance mode and less about silence.

Sounds like improper mounting or to much TIM used on the CPU, you only want to use a pea sized amount on the CPU. Also, as suggested, what core voltages are you running? If it is set to auto that could be the problem, mobos tend to dump allot of unneeded voltage when OCing, you need to make sure this is in spec.