Guild Wars 2

Okay I’d love a pet dolphin. And a ray. Especially a ray.

At the risk of being unpopular, try a necro. Unless you run a lot of dungeons with speed runners that is.

Necro is great for WvW particularly with marks and such, and has a lot of cute little survival tricks as well. Also very survivable in PvE. But not the most requested profession for dungeons.

But it’s not boring to play at least.

Sinful Scythe.7091:

uknortherner.2670:

EmZiom.1836:

Hello, I bought gw2 long long time ago. More specifically I preodered it. And I was very very very VERY disappointed with:

Sorry, but I don’t believe you. In all that time, this is the only post you have managed to make and it’s suspicious to say the least.

You do realize the number of preorders vs the number of people who post on the form vastly out weighs the number of people on the forum, right? Also, rather you believe him or not (which there is no reason not too) How does that address any of his (admittedly crying) well worded questions?….

-ahem-

Well considering at least some of his questions are pure opinion (I don’t find most of the classes boring) and some of them seem to be his problem (not having a stable IP so the game keep asking for verification for security’s sake), I would say that not all his questions need to be addressed. In fact, this entire post is made strictly to instigate a response.

Flash.6912:

Once u go War, u’ll never go back!

I went warrior, I went back.

Teofa Tsavo.9863:

I wrote a response, Vayne. I looked at it and realized I would be banned until GW8, at least.

And so, I have nothing more to add.

Look, you’re so used to contradicting me, you do it even when I’m saying something that’s so obviously correct that no one could refute it.

Poster 1: Anet isn’t watching this game, because people do X.

Poster 2: People did X is Guild Wars 1 too, so what you say doesn’t follow.

I’m guessing if it was anyone but me who said that you’d not have bothered replying. Nothing you said in your reply changed anything I said in my statement one whit.

Teofa Tsavo.9863:

Vayne.8563:

Teofa Tsavo.9863:

Vayne.8563:

tigirius.9014:

Well first let’s address the fact that Warriors are still so OP that they can solo dungeons period. That’s not part of a normal game design and no don’t insult our intelligence by acting like it’s supposed to be happening. It is however disturbing that there’s a ton of things wrong with Engineers yet warriors are allowed to continue to run amok like this.

Second, selling slots in dungeons really? That’s what this game has turned into? I guess they really haven’t been paying attention to their game much less their forums to allow this kind of thing to continue.

First of all, I hope you realize that warriors aren’t the only profession to solo dungeons. Secondly I hope you realize that in Guild Wars 1, years ago, people sold runs and did the same thing.

Claiming this is a sign of Anet paying attention is a sign you know less about the franchise than you think you do.

In Guild Wars, people have always sold runs.

And when they got scammed, Anet said it wasn’t their problem.

They did address it somewhat as well. Only Proph allowed skipping missions. Running is very hard to police, I don’t think they could have enforced any rule against it.

They did try to enforce non participants in JQ and FA, but the dishonor system was a mess.

Running missions never stopped. Running dungeons never stopped. Stop trying to make this something that wasn’t prevalant there.

I didn’t like it myself, but you couldn’t go into an outpost without listening to people spamming a run or looking for a runner.

When did I EVER say it wasn’t common and a massive practice there? It was.
It did change, slightly. You couldn’t be ran to the endgame in Factions or NF by skipping missions entirely like Proph. That did not stop the required missions from being run, but at least people had to enter them and “someone” had to beat the mission.

In Proph you could sear, get ran to TH keep, do 4 missions (or get run) and “beat” the game. Anet fixed that huge content skip. Thats it. That is all I was referring to.

I honestly do not get how you got the idea I was saying it was less prevalent there. It is far LESS prevalent in GW2.

And there, like here, ironically, some of the same “pro” gamers that ran people complained about “scrubs” ruining endgame. Gee, how did they get there?

As customers, sometimes. They never learned to play being ran.

Okay I’ll break it down for you. Some guy said, pretty much a quote, that Anet isn’t keeping an eye on the game because they allowed this.

I pointed out they allowed it and it was prevalent in Guild Wars 1 too. I was ONLY responding to the comment that Anet isn’t watching because this is going on. It’s patently untrue. That’s the end of it.

You chose to respond to me. I’m not for it. I’m against it. I’ve never liked runs. But I said something completely reasonable, against someone’s completely unreasonable assumption. Why contradict me? Why even answer it, when it was true?

Teofa Tsavo.9863:

Vayne.8563:

tigirius.9014:

Well first let’s address the fact that Warriors are still so OP that they can solo dungeons period. That’s not part of a normal game design and no don’t insult our intelligence by acting like it’s supposed to be happening. It is however disturbing that there’s a ton of things wrong with Engineers yet warriors are allowed to continue to run amok like this.

Second, selling slots in dungeons really? That’s what this game has turned into? I guess they really haven’t been paying attention to their game much less their forums to allow this kind of thing to continue.

First of all, I hope you realize that warriors aren’t the only profession to solo dungeons. Secondly I hope you realize that in Guild Wars 1, years ago, people sold runs and did the same thing.

Claiming this is a sign of Anet paying attention is a sign you know less about the franchise than you think you do.

In Guild Wars, people have always sold runs.

And when they got scammed, Anet said it wasn’t their problem.

They did address it somewhat as well. Only Proph allowed skipping missions. Running is very hard to police, I don’t think they could have enforced any rule against it.

They did try to enforce non participants in JQ and FA, but the dishonor system was a mess.

Running missions never stopped. Running dungeons never stopped. Stop trying to make this something that wasn’t prevalant there.

I didn’t like it myself, but you couldn’t go into an outpost without listening to people spamming a run or looking for a runner.

tigirius.9014:

Well first let’s address the fact that Warriors are still so OP that they can solo dungeons period. That’s not part of a normal game design and no don’t insult our intelligence by acting like it’s supposed to be happening. It is however disturbing that there’s a ton of things wrong with Engineers yet warriors are allowed to continue to run amok like this.

Second, selling slots in dungeons really? That’s what this game has turned into? I guess they really haven’t been paying attention to their game much less their forums to allow this kind of thing to continue.

First of all, I hope you realize that warriors aren’t the only profession to solo dungeons. Secondly I hope you realize that in Guild Wars 1, years ago, people sold runs and did the same thing.

Claiming this is a sign of Anet paying attention is a sign you know less about the franchise than you think you do.

In Guild Wars, people have always sold runs.

On a more serious note I think everyone can agree that the party kick system needs some serious love.

I’m pretty sure that the guys who were the first dungeon team who people got rid of didn’t make the best dungeons in this game.

As far as I can tell the dungeons that were made by the second group who made dungeons were better received than the original dungeon team.

Saying that they got rid of one guy so they’ll be no more dungeons is like saying we got rid of one political party so there’ll be no more senate.

I’m pretty sure there are devs at Anet working on 5 man instanced content.

goldenwing.8473:

And here I thought that Vayne was actually close to my age… lol.

Logan certainly runs. Otherwise the movie plot fails.

Back on topic: we can agree that we have GW2 accounts.

Ah, Logan’s Run. Forgot all about that. I wonder if that was intentional on Anet’s part. I haven’t seen that movie in years.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

I think we can agree that any plot gets better with the inclusion of Trahearne as the pivotal character.

OMFG. They need Trahearne, since he’s a necromancer, to bring back Scarlet, so we can really enjoy the story. LMAO!

Anytime mate!

No, the achievements are gone. But there are always more achievements. It’s never ending. And I believe one day those will come back.

They want to put Season 1 in the journal but it would require a large amount of time and expense, because the journal didn’t exist. A lot of what happened in Season 1 would have to be redesigned. They’re not working on it currently but they’d like to do it at some point.

Have you tried calling for help in map chat?

Im Mudbone.1437:

We all can agree I am 60 in 32 days and Vayne is a WHIPPERSNAPPER!

Well that explains a lot. It’s the whole grumpy old man thing. I’m already experiencing it. lol

Teofa Tsavo.9863:

Vayne.8563:

darkace.8925:

tolunart.2095:

darkace.8925:

That works both ways. We don’t owe ArenaNet diddly, either. They, as a company, would be wise to treat us as valued customers, and nothing less. We, as customers, should continue to support them as long as we feel they’re working in good faith to earn that support, and not a second longer.

What’s stopping you? Anet recently made a lot of changes to the game based on customer feedback like the wardrobe, trait restructuring, repeatable LS chapters, these things have been in development in some cases for over a year. And people are complaining that they have other priorities than holding players’ hands while they moan about how bad the updates are. And that they haven’t completely changed everything an individual poster doesn’t like about the updates in a mere two months.

You’re acting like spoiled children. You bought the game and your access to new content is free and perpetual, no monthly fees or paid expansions. Buying gems with real money is an option but you can also get them for free. And you have the nerve to threaten to withhold support for the game? How much do you spend a month on gems? How many millions does Anet make from this game every month?

Frankly, if you feel this strongly about the game, you should stop giving them money – assuming you do so in the first place. Go pay $15 a month to play ESO or Wildstar instead. I’m sure you’ll get your money’s worth, and Anet won’t even notice you’re gone.

Have I offended your sensibilities somehow? Is the notion that customers should without support from companies they feel don’t value their patronage an indecent one? How about you take a deep breath, re-read what I posted, then tell me what in that post warrants such indignation.

You’re making a lot of assumptions in your post that I don’t feel are warranted Darkace. You say we’re not treated as valued customers. This is a balancing act no big company can win. No matter what they do a certain percentage of the populace are going to feel disenfranchised. Because no two factions agree on anything. If they communicate and then change their mind they lied. If they don’t communicate then they are accused of not being open. I prefer they NOT communicate, and I’m a customer too. I don’t want to hear what might be or not be at some point. And I’m a paying customer just like you.

Your assumption that they’re not treating us like customers because they’re not doing what a percentage of people want, is ignoring that fact that they’re doing what other customers want.

On what world is that fair?

He has an opinion, Vayne. So do you. You are, again, informing someone that their personal perspective/opinion of this game is flatly wrong. You brought up the balancing act and disenfranchisement and then disallow one that feels disenfranchised to express that.

Sure everyone has an opinion. Can an opinion be wrong? It depends on how it’s stated.

Saying “I don’t like something” is completely different than saying “This sucks.”. You may not see the difference but I do.

One of them is making an objective statement and one is expression opinion. There are also reasonable expectations and unreasonable ones.

If someone said I opened one chest and didn’t get a precusor, even if there opinion was that it sucked, no one would have any sympathy for that at all and most people would consider his complaint unreasonable. It’s not that he doesn’t have a right to feel that way, it’s just not reasonable.

But people who have opened thousands and thousands of chests, who didn’t get a precusor are being perfectly reasonable.

People who say the game is dying or that the mega server is just server mergers are just expression an opinion with nothing to back it up. Do they have the right to feel that way? Sure. Does that mean they can come and say anything they want with no real proof? Expressed in a derogatory manner?

I don’t think it’s fair to the game or the players enjoying it. Be nice if people has a shred of evidence to back it up.

Opinions expressed as opinions are never my problem.

Im Mudbone.1437:

tolunart.2095:

Ashen.2907:

An interesting rant against someone who merely stated what should be standard behavior . Pay for a product if you feel it is worth the cost and that your are being treated respectfully by the provider.

Yeah that is some seriously outrageous stuff right there.

You forgot the part where Anet throws in piles of free stuff and the disgruntled customer tells them it’s not good enough.

Piles of free, MOSTLY, barely to totally unusable garbaage.

From your point of view. But that’s an opinion based on your perspective. A lot of people seem to be enjoying the new living story stuff. Far more people than enjoyed Living Story Season 1 but at the end even that seemed to have found a base of followers.

Just because you personally don’t like something doesn’t make it garbage and this is the kind of hyperbole that is the least useful and the most easy to ignore. In fact, this kind of statement is not constructive feedback. It’s the kind of posts that, if I were a developer, I’d remove from the forums.

darkace.8925:

Vayne.8563:

You’re making a lot of assumptions in your post that I don’t feel are warranted Darkace. You say we’re not treated as valued customers.

I said no such thing. I said if someone doesn’t feel a company is treating them as valued customers they should stop supporting that company. I named ArenaNet specifically, but the principle applies to every company in the world. From lawn care companies to restaurants to video game developers, if you don’t think a company is doing enough to earn your repeated business you should take your business elsewhere. There’s nothing unfair about that.

Vayne.8563:

Your assumption that they’re not treating us like customers because they’re not doing what a percentage of people want, is ignoring that fact that they’re doing what other customers want.

On what world is that fair?

Again, I never said that. And even if I did want to single ArenaNet out, rather than making the general statement I made, I wouldn’t do it on the grounds that they’re not giving me what, individually, I want. I’m not so conceited to pretend my personal wants outweigh those of anyone else.

Okay my bad then. But the thread is about Anet not another company. I see some of the criticism (not all of it) directed at Anet as unfair. People who have very specific concerns that aren’t being addressed. People who complain that there’s no open world combat in this game, for example. And then feeling Anet doesn’t listen to them if it’s not implemented. It wasn’t designed for that, it was never hinted that it would be in the game, so not listening to this person is logical to me. Why would they?

People who complain about too much grind are definitely more reasonable to me, since the game was advertised as having less grind.

goldenwing.8473:

And here I thought that Vayne was actually close to my age… lol.

Logan certainly runs. Otherwise the movie plot fails.

Back on topic: we can agree that we have GW2 accounts.

Dunno, I’m 52. Logan made a choice. He was fulfilling a vow. I don’t call that running.

Guardian is probably, from my point of view, the most useful profession all around. Warriors are good but bore me. Elementalists are also really useful but hard to play well, so more challenging. Mesmer is a lot of fun, but hard to level..however has a lot of utility at max level. All those choices are good at end game.

darkace.8925:

tolunart.2095:

darkace.8925:

That works both ways. We don’t owe ArenaNet diddly, either. They, as a company, would be wise to treat us as valued customers, and nothing less. We, as customers, should continue to support them as long as we feel they’re working in good faith to earn that support, and not a second longer.

What’s stopping you? Anet recently made a lot of changes to the game based on customer feedback like the wardrobe, trait restructuring, repeatable LS chapters, these things have been in development in some cases for over a year. And people are complaining that they have other priorities than holding players’ hands while they moan about how bad the updates are. And that they haven’t completely changed everything an individual poster doesn’t like about the updates in a mere two months.

You’re acting like spoiled children. You bought the game and your access to new content is free and perpetual, no monthly fees or paid expansions. Buying gems with real money is an option but you can also get them for free. And you have the nerve to threaten to withhold support for the game? How much do you spend a month on gems? How many millions does Anet make from this game every month?

Frankly, if you feel this strongly about the game, you should stop giving them money – assuming you do so in the first place. Go pay $15 a month to play ESO or Wildstar instead. I’m sure you’ll get your money’s worth, and Anet won’t even notice you’re gone.

Have I offended your sensibilities somehow? Is the notion that customers should without support from companies they feel don’t value their patronage an indecent one? How about you take a deep breath, re-read what I posted, then tell me what in that post warrants such indignation.

You’re making a lot of assumptions in your post that I don’t feel are warranted Darkace. You say we’re not treated as valued customers. This is a balancing act no big company can win. No matter what they do a certain percentage of the populace are going to feel disenfranchised. Because no two factions agree on anything. If they communicate and then change their mind they lied. If they don’t communicate then they are accused of not being open. I prefer they NOT communicate, and I’m a customer too. I don’t want to hear what might be or not be at some point. And I’m a paying customer just like you.

Your assumption that they’re not treating us like customers because they’re not doing what a percentage of people want, is ignoring that fact that they’re doing what other customers want.

On what world is that fair?

They’re cheap enough to buy with gold if you really need them. I have a ton of them and never bought any.

goldenwing.8473:

I think we can all agree that Queen Jenna is barefoot.

I think we can all agree that Logan runs.

I think we can all agree that the game can always be improved, in some way, shape or form.

I don’t agree that Logan runs. lol

Cameirus.8407:

I dont know if Anet listen or not.

But they give a very good impression of not giving a kitten.

Except we can see changes made to the game based specifically on what some people have asked for. The problem is that programming takes a lot of time. It’s always months before we see results. So people say they don’t know if Anet listens.

If you’re paying attention, they’re listening. If you’re not, they’re not.

nexxe.7081:

We went from CDI to silence, especially on the major issues. We do get some dev comments sometimes, but the lack of silence on those topics that the OP linked is telling.

They said they were taking a break from CDIs to launch the game in China and that they would return. I’m not sure why that’s a problem for anyone.

Soinetwa.5193:

Vayne.8563:

Soinetwa.5193:

Vayne.8563:

So the people that bought multiple account bound gathering tools won’t then be asking for refunds. I mean if you have a shared slot, there’s no point in having multiple tools.

For this reason, I’m not sure this would be implemented.

why refunds?
you can now put your account bound tools in the bank use a bank access thing or go to the bank take it and use it…
other way around not all your chras got the harvesting tools you still would have to equipp it and after u are done you would have to unequip them

it IS much easier to harvest with 2 characters and never having to do just that
in fact id probably put oricalcum tools in my bag to always have the option of these tools and the endless ones (which are account bound) would stay on the character im currently playing the most with

Okay let’s pretend I bought more than one axe. Now I have multiple axes. If I had the bag, I wouldn’t have had to buy multiple axes, I’d just keep one in my bag that any character could use. Totally useless product after that.

Sure I’d want a refund.

you did have to buy multiple axes at all??
theyre acc bound its just a few clicks and you couldve used these axes on all your characters..
i see you at fault making axes account bound an then only using them on one..
and just because the tools are in this 8slot bag does not mean u ckittene them instantly equip them otherwise u need too open inventory put them on with a simple double klick and
after use put it back into the 8slot bag if it lands somewhere else drag it to that bag
because if u forget to unequip it you need to change chra once again just to give that axe to the chra u want to use it with….
it IS not just pressing f at every tree
having multiple axes is still some nice quality of life improvement
it saves a few times walking to the bank without granting full access to the bank thus making it overpowered

8slots are good
10 or more would e okay but 8slots surely ARE okay!

When axes first came out, they were soul bound. So I bought copies for different characters, because I’m lazy.

Then they made them account bound. I only need one. I’ve bought multiples of the same axe. So now what do I do with the other ones which I’ve spent money on? Right now, they’re all on different characters, at least saving me a trip to the bank.

And you know, I don’t care one way or another, because if they do it they do it, but I can guarantee you there’ll be people who bought multiples asking for refunds.

Aelaelia.6715:

pdavis.8031:

Well you ckittene the skin in the wardrobe system to make it LOOK like you have 2 Incinerators, but the stats won’t be that of Incinerator. Otherwise you’d need to make 2.

I thought since Legendaries are account bound now than you can copy the stats over? Could be wrong though… i’m so confused lol

Legendaries are account bound, but you can’t duplicate them…it means you can move them from character to character.

However if you have a legendary that skin is unlocked and you ckittene transmutation crystals to reskin any item of the same time. So if you have a dagger, any dagger, you can give it the skin of your legendary dagger.

This works with everything in your wardrobe. Once you unlock a skin you ckittene it account wide on any character.

Teofa Tsavo.9863:

In before the Ranger hate.
I find my Rangers to be the most all-around profession. They have to play smarter in group.

You won’t find any Crusader class here. My EQ2 SK can do anything.

Out of curiosity, why is a ranger more all round than say a guardian?

If you’re not doing instances with other people, ranger, guardian and necromancer will all work, as will warrior. Ranger is fun or frustrating because of the pets (some people just love pets). Guardians are every useful later if you do decide to group and do dungeons. With Necros, minion, power or condition builds are all possible.

Of the three guardian is probably the most popular. Ranger is going to be getting some changes soon that will make ranged combat more effective, but no one knows how good it will be till we actually see the changes and try it for ourselves.

Soinetwa.5193:

Vayne.8563:

So the people that bought multiple account bound gathering tools won’t then be asking for refunds. I mean if you have a shared slot, there’s no point in having multiple tools.

For this reason, I’m not sure this would be implemented.

why refunds?
you can now put your account bound tools in the bank use a bank access thing or go to the bank take it and use it…
other way around not all your chras got the harvesting tools you still would have to equipp it and after u are done you would have to unequip them

it IS much easier to harvest with 2 characters and never having to do just that
in fact id probably put oricalcum tools in my bag to always have the option of these tools and the endless ones (which are account bound) would stay on the character im currently playing the most with

Okay let’s pretend I bought more than one axe. Now I have multiple axes. If I had the bag, I wouldn’t have had to buy multiple axes, I’d just keep one in my bag that any character could use. Totally useless product after that.

Sure I’d want a refund.

So the people that bought multiple account bound gathering tools won’t then be asking for refunds. I mean if you have a shared slot, there’s no point in having multiple tools.

For this reason, I’m not sure this would be implemented.

hazenvirus.8154:

Wolfheart.7483:

Recalibar.6482:

psyckos.6893:

Funny! That looks just like the ticket I submitted when I had multiple soulbound infinite harvesting tools. Exchanging those for gems I can understand when they changed them to account bound. Exchanging a second incinerator for a bolt…not so much. If that’s the case, Anet please take one of my Infinite Lights and give me a Mjolnir. That would be swell.

At least your legendaries are account bound and you can change stats on the fly. Try 2 soulbound Infinite Lights or any expensive soulbound item you may have 2 of.

I built two incinerators.

Why are you so kittened off?

At the current tradepost price, the incinerator is worth about 3100g or so. At current exchange rate of 1 g to 0.18 USD, just one cost about 558 USD in gold.

But you can give your legendary to your other characters!

Ascended gear can be given to other characters, so I didn’t pay 3100g to have that skill.

But you can trade and swap stats on it all you want.

I didn’t spend the thousands of hours to grind a weapon that can swap stats on the fly, I spent all that time to have matching skins. It costs me 62g to craft another one. 22g for the Deldrimor steel required, 2 for the dusts, and about 38g for the Inscription. Even if I used the feature, the dagger comes with 18 unique stat combos. Each would, again, run me about 62g. 18*62=1116g. Assuming I cared about having access to each and every dagger combo in the game, which I don’t, I would still be shafted out of around 2000g. All I wanted was the skin.

Get over it. With a persistent online game, such as Guild Wars 2, there are bound to be changes over time. Some of those changes will inevitably lead to situations like this. This addition of the wardrobe had many more positive aspects to it than negative.

They are just lucky it was a minority of players who had to deal with the negatives. Easy to ignore that group and sweep it under the rug. If they had made mistake on refunds for something the majority expected the outrage would have been more than enough to get it changed. You can claim we are entitled, but the truth is if there was an issue that effected the majority of the population anet wouldn’t be going halfway on refunds because it would cost them more money and reputation than it would be worth. They’ll never admit they made a mistake in this situation or fix the issue for their paying customers, because someone decided the issue wasn’t worth dealing with after they started fixing it. They anticipated outrage for dyes and gem store purchases and refunded appropriately. If every person had dual legendary weapons they wouldn’t have been able to ignore the problem. Instead they would have anticipated the outrage and potential loss of gem sales and made the situation right for their paying customers.

Well sure this is pretty much what all companies do. They look at generally cost vs work vs affect on their product. It’s how businesses operate.

Keep in mind that not everyone that made two legendaries is still playing the game, and of those that are, some don’t care as much as others. You have a small population of people, and Anet gave you “something” for your troubles.

It’s not an ideal situation. It’s also one situation out of many the company is dealing with. You always try to deal with the big stuff, and get away with skipping by as much as you can on the little stuff. It’s not like that’s the only thing going on.

There are people against selling the slots on principle, or perhaps competitors that want to frustrate you. Either way it was a crappy thing to do.

Griefers are just scum.

There were some people complaining about the account wallet. I’m pretty sure finding common ground isn’t going to be that easy.

Try using a speed buff? Almost every profession has a way to give themselves swiftness. If you’re an engineer you ckittene your rifle to jump shot btw.

You know I just thought of something else too. Try going to the highest point you’re jumping from and aim to the lowest point you’re jumping too. If you’re jumping down you get a bit more distance.

I’ve heard people were banned for farming linen this way in specific events that they could keep going indefinitely.

It increased the speed at which they attained an item in game which affected the economy.

TheDraco.3965:

Vayne.8563:

Oh, I know. They’re peer moderated. People downvote stuff they don’t like (even if they shouldn’t) and it vanishes. That doesn’t happen here. Two, three, five guys here can keep a thread going forever. But if you count individual names in those threads, for and against, you’ll find that a long held thread doesn’t mean community agreement. It doesn’t mean everyone is saying the same thing, or that it agrees with anything else.

What do you mean that doesn’t happen here? Moderators remove posts they don’t like all the time. This is honestly the worst forum on the internet I have ever seen when it comes to moderation.

Sure they’ve removed a lot of my positive posts too. Hell I’ve been banned from these forums for infractions and I’m one of the biggest defenders of the game. This forum is not peer moderated, it’s moderated by people who are trying to apply rules to posts. If it was just bad posts that got infracted, why was I banned?

Mjgander.1905:

Vayne.8563:

Mjgander.1905:

Yes I understand it’s each to their own.

And the LS could be great, better than an expansion easily, if they actually did what they said it would be capable of.

I do believe Anet stated that LS will cover an expansions worth of content, which it hasn’t by far, not even close.

The point I was making in my post is that the LS just simply falls so horribly short of an expansions worth of content it really is silly, and that if you add up total content it has provided us with and you see how little there really is, I can’t understand how people can log in each patch and legitimately be happy with it all.

People want what I listed, they said LS is capable of doing such things so my question is: Where is it all?

First of all the expansions worth of content comment was explained many times in the past, and it’s was corrected, so people would understand what it actually meant. This was long before most of the living story was delivered in Season 1. Bringing it up now isn’t particularly useful because even before the best stuff in Season 1 we knew it was spoke out of turn. It was a bad use of language that people latched onto. It’s done.

However, what was also said and explained was that Season 1 was like a test. No one was doing that in any other game. They had to see what worked and didn’t work.

In Season 2 the content is permanent, repeatable and we are uncovering a new zone.

Season 1 was the learning bit, Season 2 is the delivery bit. People act like this sort of thing is done in every game all the time. It’s not. There’s a learning curve. Anet is learning.

And this kind of learning can’t be rushed.

Season 1 was the learning bit? So what exactly did they learn?

That temporary content was a bad thing so they now make it permanent? It should have never been temporary to begin with, any one with any sense could have told Anet this, and we did, for how long?

And such things as making events one time only and so on, another thing they supposedly learnt? The thing I’m trying to say, is that alot of the things they have/are correcting in the LS should have never been a problem in the first place.

And we’re now uncovering a new map? Should I be happy about this? It’s been a month and look at the size of it compared to other maps, it’s small. Seriously nothing to be defending.

I really can’t stress enough, that the LS doesn’t deliver at all, and I really don’t see it stepping up to the level it should and needs to be at any time soon, given Anets track record. Whether it’s poor management, budget problems I don’t know, but something inside of Anet is going wrong for this amount of content and the speed it’s coming out to be happening.

I can’t really stress enough that the LS delivers brilliantly, it’s one of the best things about this game, and probably one of the main reasons I still play it. That and my guild.

The temporary content thing is a good idea if you don’t know what’s good and what’s not good. Anet explained it was a learning process. Some people didn’t want to hear it.

But they learned a lot of things not just to make content permanent. The story telling is better. The focus is more on your character (people calling you boss etc). The continuity is greater. That it’s repeatable as well as permanent is a big thing (they are different). The journal came out of that learn and that’s a pretty cool thing.

The nature of the new zone was probably a learned lesson too and a lot of people seem to like it. Anet had to find the balance between too difficult for most people, and stuff that rewarded people for showing up but still rewarded people more for organizing and figuring out how to beat the content.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Eh, see, here’s where I find out how much of a freakishly odd person I am. See, I don’t expect anyone to actually like my opinion, or even agree with it, on many . . . many topics.

I’m moderately uneducated, uninformed, and in general a poor example of someone who has the right to make decisions of any kind. Why in the name of sanity would anyone put value in an opinion of mine?

I don’t know. I find your opinions to be refeshingly intelligent and poignant. Maybe it’s me. lol

Mjgander.1905:

Yes I understand it’s each to their own.

And the LS could be great, better than an expansion easily, if they actually did what they said it would be capable of.

I do believe Anet stated that LS will cover an expansions worth of content, which it hasn’t by far, not even close.

The point I was making in my post is that the LS just simply falls so horribly short of an expansions worth of content it really is silly, and that if you add up total content it has provided us with and you see how little there really is, I can’t understand how people can log in each patch and legitimately be happy with it all.

People want what I listed, they said LS is capable of doing such things so my question is: Where is it all?

First of all the expansions worth of content comment was explained many times in the past, and it’s was corrected, so people would understand what it actually meant. This was long before most of the living story was delivered in Season 1. Bringing it up now isn’t particularly useful because even before the best stuff in Season 1 we knew it was spoke out of turn. It was a bad use of language that people latched onto. It’s done.

However, what was also said and explained was that Season 1 was like a test. No one was doing that in any other game. They had to see what worked and didn’t work.

In Season 2 the content is permanent, repeatable and we are uncovering a new zone.

Season 1 was the learning bit, Season 2 is the delivery bit. People act like this sort of thing is done in every game all the time. It’s not. There’s a learning curve. Anet is learning.

And this kind of learning can’t be rushed.

Mjgander.1905:

I still to this day don’t understand how people can defend the LS so ferociously.

If you add up everything the LS has given the game since the first LS patch to this date it’s really nothing to brag about, far from it.

And the patch every 2 weeks most of the time to me, feels insulting that it’s labeled as ‘content’.

Where’s the actual long term lasting maps?
Where’s the new races?
Where’s the new weapons?
Where’s the (good) new skills?
Where’s the new traits (we’ve had almost none added, since launch)
Where’s the new weapons for professions? (Staff warriors for example)
Where’s the frequent balance updates?
Where’s the new mini games?
Where’s the new PvP game modes?
Where’s the new PvP maps? Production on this seemingly stopped.
Where’s the PROPER PvP rewards? If I pvp I want pvp stuff, not PvE materials T_T
Where’s the new classes?
Where’s the new fractals? (Actual 100% fresh new ones?)
Where’s the new PvP reward track skins?

Sure I play this game, but I seriously don’t understand this games vocal forum playerbase when I read such high praise on the new patches, “You’ve outdone yourselves Anet!” so on, people think the complains are overly negative, I actually think the people who are happy with the current content and speed of it are too easy to please.

Like someone stated it’s going to take several months to get the full Dry top, it’s laughable.

I don’t understand how people can go see shows on Broadway. I mean you see them and after you leave, well, it’s done. You’ve nothing left but the memories. But people still go see shows. And they spend a lot more on them than they do on playing Guild Wars 2.

I really enjoyed the Marionette fight. I can’t do it now, but I had that experience. To say that I got nothing out of it would be understating it. And…there’s nothing I’ve played in ANY game that was as much fun for me as that.

I really enjoyed saving the people in LA. I haven’t played anything in any MMO like that. I thought it was well designed and a lot of fun. I really loved the Nightmare Tower.

I don’t have to defend the Living World, because I enjoyed it. I can understand if it’s not your thing.

But you know, If the Marionette was here now, I wouldn’t be doing it, any more than I still do Tequatl. I’ve moved on to other things.

Those who like the living world aren’t necessarily “defending” it, so much as talking about how much they personally enjoyed it.

And you know, I can see why people don’t like it. I don’t understand people who can’t why someone would though.

Tiger Ashante.1792:

You guys are missing my point, why put a sandstorm as an event in the first place? Why wasn’t it made to be a weather feature of the area, that occurred randomly and surprised you, rather than oh, the sandstorm’s gonna hit in 5 minutes, just like it does every hour of the day!

But i’m not talking just about sandstorm, it’s everything. Everything is becoming a clock race in gw2. It’s totally breaking my immersion in the game. The randomness of anything is gone it seems.

It’s a game. Lots of things in games don’t make sense. Why can I rez everyone except characters who die dramatically in the PS? Why do I heal super fast as soon as I leave combat. If you’re waiting for stuff in games to make logical sense. then I don’t know what to tell you.

It’s not the same sandstorm. The wind picks up periodically and it blows uncovering chests.

Have you ever done a dungeon in the game? When you go into the dungeon again, why does it have the same creatures and bosses you’ve already killed. Just think of it like a dungeon. Every periodically it’s like starting the dungeon again, giving you a chance to reach tier 5.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I never used Ursan. Not even sure what it was. If PI is Pain Inverter, I did use that, but not on my Mesmer.

Just saying… everyone didn’t do what maybe the majority did. =)

Did you spend a lot of time trying to get into DOA or UW groups though?

But this is the kind of challenge some people were asking for. Something for guilds to do together. The zone is fun for me because of that challenge specifically. If it was just another zone with just some more dynamic events, I’d be through with it already. Trying to get to tier 5 is what keeps me there.

Taking away the sandstorm timer would ruin the entire concept of the zone. Because you have X amount of time to get to Tier 5. If it was a random timer there’s no skill or organization aspect to it. If it’s an unlimited time, then you’ll always get to zone five.

The zone was designed like an open world raid. You have to do just about every event with bonus to get to Tier 5. That makes it a challenge. That’s the whole point of the zone.

Taking away the timer in this instance would destroy the entire integrity of the zone.

sazberryftw.3809:

tolunart.2095:

This is a good example of what I just posted about. This attitude is the biggest reason why they remain silent until their plans are fully developed.

I don’t think there’s much wrong about my attitude on this matter. I do honestly believe they should tell us more. Not everything but more. I would simply like more updates on what’s going on behind the scenes, I think players deserve that. I feel like the wall between the players and Anet is very high and very thick. I think the wall between players and developers should be thinner, and more open.

I am not talking about them responding to every nit-picking opinion, I’m asking to have open updates on what they’re working on. I’d like to hear more updates on precursor crafting, on getting season 1 into the journal. I’d like to know if they’re working on fixing almost 2 year old dungeon bugs. They do not need to promise us anything, I just feel they should update us regularly on their current projects.

Not everything needs to be super secret right up until a feature pack is released, that is all. They are silent about so many matters, matters that are INCREDIBLY important to their player base.

What exactly should they tell us?

Anet has said time and time again they’re an interative company. The create and try things that never make it into game. So if they say they’re working on it, a percentage of fans will think okay this will be in the game.

Before launch we heard of a shoot gallery and a bar room brawl. Neither made it into the game. Fans occassionally still bring them up, after two years. Why didn’t they make it into the game? No idea. But we wouldn’t be hearing about it if Anet didn’t annouce it. Now it’s possible that they made it and testers didn’t find it fun or exciting or entertaining. So they looked at the work involved to complete redo it, decided it was throwing good money after bad and abandoned the project.

Which is no problem if they don’t tell us stuff is coming. You’re not etitled to know what’s coming long term. You want to know. It’s not a right.

chemiclord.3978:

Oh, I think everyone understands GW1 had a TON of balance issues. I think if they were really honest with themselves, they’d agree it was even WORSE than the balance issues GW1 has.

But the diversity was worth the lack of balance, because to them most of the fun was FINDING those OP builds and testing them against what other people found.

Purely a matter of opinion whether it was worth it or not. A lot of the PvP crowd left the game because of balance issues, so for those people that left, it wasn’t worth it.

And I still had the problem of not being able to get into groups to do hard content if I didn’t run a specific build. Diversity was little help to me then.

See the problem here is that some people come here to say the game is dying (which is not provable, probably not true and definitely not constructive). There are people who come here for no other reason than to get a rise out of other people. And there are people who come here to criticize the game, even though they like it.

There are people who have criticized down leveling. But more people on those threads liked downleveling. Should Anet listen to them and take it out.

What people are really saying when they say Anet doesn’t listen to their players, is that Anet is not listening to me and the players who think like me. But if Anet removed downleveling based on some posts, then they’d not be listening to players who said to keep it.

Is downleveling somehow objectively a good or bad thing? Then who should Anet listen to?

Saying Anet isn’t listening is demonstrably wrong. Saying Anet doesn’t do everything we tell them too is absolutely true. Which is as it should be.