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Hey Karl, kudos to you and the devs working on this spec. However I noticed that during the stream impairing daggers cost initiative, is that intended?

i did not notice that…

Karl?!

just saw the stream again on youtube and it was Fist Flurry that used up 4 init and not the daggers, still it makes no sense that a UTILITY skill uses init…

Describe the Daredevil in 3 Words.

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gets nerfed soon Q_Q

what he said

Thief POI

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Hey Karl, kudos to you and the devs working on this spec. However I noticed that during the stream impairing daggers cost initiative, is that intended?

i did not notice that…

Karl?!

Pulmonary Impact

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did you see the stream? it deals a bit over 2k dmg… seriously? that’s is the MASSIVE amount of dmg stated in the tooltip?
something that is so hard to set up and proc deals such irrelevant dmg?

Karl McLain Appreciation Thread

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I will appreciate Karl when he removes death blossom from my power dagger dagger build, or at least make it useful.

don’t hold your breath bro

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the elite ability’s third attack should have a different animation… they simply used the same as the stomp animation… and weaponless just like a regular stomp

Daredevil named "Outlaw" in spanish game.

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this name Daredevil, imo does not fit in the Gw2 theme at all, feels out of place.
i would love to hear the reason why this name was selected… I hope they explane this no the stream.

Note: have you searched for the meaning of Daredevil?
here u go:
A professional daredevil performs standalone stunts for their dramatic value. He or she usually has an organized performance in which a handful of challenging tasks are displayed for the public. Daredevils may broadcast their shows on television or sell tickets for monetary gain. Making a career as a daredevil is tough and dangerous work; it requires self promotion skills as well as stunt training.

Basically a Clown! tks Karl

Describe the Daredevil in 3 Words.

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wait and see

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still… this name Daredevil, imo does not fit in the Gw2 theme at all, feels out of place.
i would love to hear the reason why this name was selected… I hope they explane this no the stream.

Edit: have you searched for the meaning of Daredevil?
here u go:
A professional daredevil performs standalone stunts for their dramatic value. He or she usually has an organized performance in which a handful of challenging tasks are displayed for the public. Daredevils may broadcast their shows on television or sell tickets for monetary gain. Making a career as a daredevil is tough and dangerous work; it requires self promotion skills as well as stunt training.

Basically a Clown! tks Karl

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OMG Darth Maul style staff skin????

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Already have Bifrost, everything perfect for me.

you will look ridiculous xD just sain

I prefer Emberspire.

Goes well with Incinerator

i like that one to but not going to go with it, i don’t like the fact that the flame is solid…

Daredevil!

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also because there were 4 threads about it that were merged into this one that you probably didn’t see

Pulmonary Impact

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let’s see how it actually works first, well make suggestions after.
It will probably be implemented by Christmas, at least it’s when it makes more sense to me for the HoT to be launched, until then we can only speculate, no point in making requests now.

Official DareDevil Post is Live

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i am actually more interested to see weither devs finally learned thief traits xD

don’t get your hopes high man!

Official DareDevil Post is Live

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Meet the Daredevil: Thief’s Elite Specialization

no surprises, no justifications…
now all it’s left is to wait to see the live stream tomorrow and see how OP this specialization is versus dummy golems that don’t fight back…

Boundless dodge too strong?

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I dont think anyone will take DD and Acro in the same spec, since Trickery is mandatory, this build is way to defensive, we cant even fill the +1 “role” we have atm.
Without burst we are useless…

OMG Darth Maul style staff skin????

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I prefer this one

Our Elite-Spec is a Joke

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yeah! I’m sure they will redesign all the traits and abilities 1 day before the live stream presentation just cuz you asked for it!

/sigh

Our Elite-Spec is a Joke

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the only down side i see from getting physicals is the nerf to improv since with a new ability type the chance of resetting the CD’s of one particular type goes down from 20% to 16%.

Our Elite-Spec is a Joke

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Uh.. Am I missing something? Was there a reveal / article or is this all speculation based on data-mined stuff? Cuz uh.. Eles got a sword datamined and I believe Wars found different/scrapped abilities.

Seems a bit early to be bashing and crying.

^ this

Our Elite-Spec is a Joke

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I am monitoring this thread.

i feel a lot safer now, tks!

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if you have Dash u cant dodge in SR since it will make you travel forward 360 units granting you reveal…

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I just hope they don’t give us cool downs on staff abilities i stead of using init…

Staff Thief revealed this Week!

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is the staff on the image in game atm or will it be introduced after?

Comprehensive bug list

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Heart Seeker not traveling longer distance wile you have the quickness is on the patch notes, it is intended.

they changed it so leaps don’t go further with swiftness or travel less distance when crippled. however, since quickness and slow alter the duration of the skill, with the leap speed being the same, these do alter the distance.

for example, if we would normally leap 300 in the space of 1.5 seconds, and we’re given quickness, we now leap at the same speed for 1 second, only achieving a distance of 200.

when slowed, the result will be the opposite, with leaps taking longer but carrying the user further.

Aw i see… my bad, i misunderstood.

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Heart Seeker not traveling longer distance wile you have the quickness is on the patch notes, it is intended.

also Basilisk Venom now does not stack, if you want the full duration you need to wait 1 sec before you take the second hit, cuz it now overwrites the duration and that is also in the patch notes.

VIDEO:Shadow Teef decent dmg superb survival

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I use the same spec but with improv instead of executioner. Works fine for me.

Just one question… does Merciful Ambush work for you guys?! If yes, how?! It never stealthes me nor the person I’m reviving….

I hope your melee staff works for you.

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Watch us not get a weapon altogether. XD

Thief elite spec is thief gets deleted.

teef elite spec will be MESMER!

I hope your melee staff works for you.

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were getting a spoon! give it up already….

Dev Interaction with Thief

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last time a dev dared to enter the thieves den he got Backstabed.
since then they only enter in stealth and leave before they get Reveled…

What if Thieves got Scepter? O_O

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I think a spoon wold be a good weapon for teefs

So, how is Anet getting us out of this one?

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I bet you guys Richochet is gonna come back through the Elite Specialization.

Calling it now

I called it first xD
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Ricochet-gone/page/2#post5178393

Hiding in plain sight... HoT

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Nah, no hate, tbh i dont really care about wich weapon we’ll get but on that video, those were NPC’s it means nothing…

Hiding in plain sight... HoT

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that or it is an engi, they use medium armor too and have rifles.

P/P Build!

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I’ve been using this p/p in WvW quite a bit since the patch: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAqaVlsMh2mYZTwvJw+EHyEFPHahbwXGHaao3zpIAA-TlyCABAcIEI/ECE++DpovBLlG3o+TiKBp4IEklyspfQAkCAipRA-w

Damage is not that high, but I’ve been having fun with it. Obviously some personal tweaks can be made.

p/p might seem an odd choice compared to p/d, but the use of carrion gear allows me to put out semi-ok direct damage with unload, which also helps proc the on-crit sigils with lower precision. Plus I have an easy ranged interrupt to proc more torment and stop heals or whatnot. BP is useful for the things it’s useful for.

Offhand dagger I don’t think is as necessary because the dagger toss doesn’t add anything, and CnD isn’t really necessary due to all the stealth the build already has. The only thing it really adds is additional torment from the #3, but yeah.

looks cool on paper but P/p is not a condi weapon set although it has 2 condi abilities, just like D/D. I’ll have to give it a try

Also, on a side note, Trappers Respite should be ticked a bit, the trap should be dropped on the thief’s feet BEFORE the role back instead of the at the end of the animation, it would give us control over were to land the trap, just like caltrops work instead of dropping it somewhere we don’t actually need it.

Also, if the trap should REPLACE itself as we use the healing skill again and the trap was not triggered, instead of maintaining the first trap dropped and not dropping any more traps if the first one isn’t triggered. (a thread about this should be created to don’t you think?)

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I’ve use this build for PvP for the last 2 weeks and i’m having fun!
I sometimes get racked by condies or retaliation, also you need to be careful with reflection, if you manage that, it’s a win!

1 v 1 mode please.

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Ugh .. .this distortion of fanboyism and brainwashing here

Aion had 1 v 1 arena/ “gamemode” and it was super mega giga ultra hyper supra maxi tera uber fun and rewarding.
This was in a hard trinity game , and where the game was actually balanced on team fights (ahem, no! gw2 it’s not, stop lying to yourself ).

A game where you had HARD COUNTERS classes . Do you realize now ? you had to 1 v 1 a hard counter, 80% failure rate against it , and man that was rewarding when you
beat the crap out of that one .
You had like 2 mins to prepare for the fight and it was 2 out 3 rounds . The maps had side objectives(like channeling orbs that gave points/ and lots of others ) that were there to help in this case.
If you were defeated in a fight that won’t end the round and this was great as you could come back, if the enemy used his big spell / long cooldown skills.
You had a ticket a day to participate in this kind of mini tournament. but you could stack them ( gather 5 of them in the week and do 5 mini tournaments in a row in the weekend)

This could soooooooo be in Gw2 . but no…. this is friendly community promoting and bla and bla and blabla circle-jer*ing .

If they wanted to be competitive/rewarding we would have :
– Ladders(correspondent to leagues)
- leagues( corespondedt to mmr)
- 1v1
- maybe(2v2 or 3v3 on Conquest so we can party with a friend against other 2 players ),
- dishonered
- profession mmr ,
- targeting
- no lvl1 player in Ranked arena

none of the mentions actually are right now in the game, they just said nice words about them.

stopped reading after you said Aion…

1 v 1 mode please.

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will NEVER happen cuz that would mean A-net would have to balance professions for 1v1 and they have admittedly said that they do not balance based on 1v1 situations but on team play.

so yeah, join a 1v1 private server like the rest of us and enjoy.

Mesmer/ele nerf on Tuesday?

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Nothing will happen before the next big tournament. Probably not even after that.

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Necro/Thief downed damage skills too strong

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thief? lol unless a fire/air sigil procs thieves hit like mosquito in downstate, as for necros, they can easily down a player at 100% health and kill them wile in downstate, it is by far the strongest downstate in game, all others are more or less at the same lvl.

this rising Questioning of "Shiro v Thief"

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Arena net like to ensure every Set up gets its moment in the light to keep the meta changing so nobody gets bored of playing the exact same thing.

err…. D/p and S/d + SB is all we have since beta. So much for not getting bored of the same spec and weapon set…

I don't like pvp anymore

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i just came back recently and i’m ready to take another long brake…

Anet throw us a kittening bone

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p.s. please give me Karl’s twitter so i can blow it up

Karl is the ONLY dev that i know that plays thief, willingly or not, he is the only one that has publicly assumed to play the profession.

If they threw thieves a bone, the QQ from other classes would be endless. They can’t do it. We are the scape goat of the game.

If they threw thieves a bone, they might just kill the thief with it so… they better not!

Dev Acknowledgement of Thief issues

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Wrong subforum mate, devs do not dare to enter the thieves lair. Muahahaha….

Burning stack intensity

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shame only Karl plays thief every now and then… Karl, were all counting on you man!!

Flash Warrior

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after all this time, warriors, wearing heavy armor and carrying eavy weapons are still the fastest profession to get from point A to B, no other profession can outrun them or even catch them if they decide to flee… and don’t bother trying to CC them cuz it does not work they just keep going… it’s insane…

is this ever going to be addressed? even if they don’t get nerfed, will other professions be able to at least manage to stay in range?

so we get to kill revenants this weekend?

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OR totally new and ppl need to L2P it…

so we get to kill revenants this weekend?

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nomnom… tasty revs

[Video]Thief P/P "Dubstep Gun" Build!

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there are at least 3 threads with this exact same build and with multiple videos on them in this sub-forum, just take a look at page 2.

Shadow's Embrace REVERT CHANGE

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why was this NOT fixed on last hotfix patch?

Would i buy the expansion for pvp?

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Even if the thief specialisation is awesome for pvp i will not buy it at it’s current price, i will buy it wen it’s on discount, even then i will not buy it for more than 20€.
Imo a trate line and a weapon set is not woth 50€.