Guild Wars 2

Aenaos.8160:

You mean the same players that can’t handle an orb and a cannon will now be exited about a ball….

YES one that you can actually PASS to other team mates or enemies if you miss!

fernandinajazz.4068:

Looks like Keg Brawl to me just with normal skills/utils instead of Keg Brawl skills.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Keg_Brawl

This but with deadly traps spread around

necrofail.7439:

Not sure what huttball is but I remember someone making an asura ball game with Cleric guards.

that was an asura pinball :P

Huttball was the best pvp fun i ever had and I’ve been gaming online since 1997.
Man that was a lot of fun…

Note: The guild I’m in today, Velocity, I met most of them in huttball matches and later on we teamed up.

when u use black powder + heart seeker your HS hits the target and you get stealth.

when u use black powder + cluster bomb, the fist hit will deal dmg AND stealth you, if you use it again you will deal dmg to your target WILE in stealth that’s why u get reveled.

At leat there is something besides conquest is it worse than co quest? We’ll know soon enough. At lest there will be something different to do pvp wise and that is a good thing…. Theatrically at least :P

I have been playing with it since I first read this thread 2 days ago and its funny to see ppls reaction to it they get totaly confused xD I love it.

Also, today, with the same spec and sigils I changed to P/D staking bleeds alot faster maintaining mobility and I tried using the mad king runes and man…. Ppl just melt down in seconds… I went for pain response instead of hard to catch the rest is the same. It’s insane xD

Eles and necros are the hardest to take down but totally doable, S/D thieves are hard to kill to but the D/P panic strike thieves have little chances

Edit: How do I rate it in metabuild? I have no idea…

kick in the gibblies?

the expansion with FIX EVERYTHING!!! Engies will be put out of the meta by “The Revenant” hell he will push every other profession out of the meta!

after the patch matches will be like 4v5 Revenants or even 3v5 Revenants!

so worry not, the engi god dais will be over “soon” !

FYI Stealth mechanic is the same age as all other professions mechanics.

imo using macros does more harm then good! this game is all about timing things right, a macro will use certain abilities with an exact time between them, that may cause you to spend more time then needed to perform the combo you have macroed, also latency may cause it to fail and cost you the fight.
I personally prefer to use my abilities exactly when i need them and not relie on a macro that can get me killed…

as for macroing stuff like using signets or poisons…. man how lazy can ppl be?! how hard is it to press 2-3 buttons side my side?

Ragnarox.9601:

Turret engies, shatter/condi mesmers and Thieves are meta in pvp now.

sorry, thieves are what?!

Fool me once, shame on you fool me twice, shame on me, fool me 1.536.690 times, there is no way in hell I’ll spend another cent with this game.

We all know by now how they work and if some of you are hyped, you better buckle up cuz when reality crashes in your face it won’t be pretty.

i prefer “person who steals secretly or without open force; one guilty of theft or larceny.”

Duel some ppl in the HotM in the meanwhile!

Aw wait…

All good except the MB… Asrock os awful… I’d go for a gigabite, MSI or Asus instead…

Main issue here (imo) is the lack of players / teams in queue forcing the same teams to face eachother over and over again. It has very little to do with the mm system.

Narkodx.1472:

Why did you not actually nerf engineers?

These changes will not change much simply a nudge in the right direction

We need a LEAP in the right direction

maybe in another 2 years you will get it.

hummmm… nop still not coming back to this game.
A-net try harder!

PvE players buy more gems and fund development, just be thankful they exist otherwise there would be no PvP.

I don’t mind pve content at all I will not play it anyways so… I just ignore it. As long as it makes pve players happy and spending money to keep the game alive, any pvp content is a “bonus” although it makes things worse then they are more often then not…

Not in today’s patch!!! Now that is new…

unless someone can teach him how to hack the game there is nothing anyone can do about the thief class, at this point it is as good as a punch bag in pvp

Gw2 is best, blah blah blah… it might be but it is not fun to play at all.

I come here often in hopes os good news but there’s not one positive thread on this forum so far. I’m playing another mmo probably inferior (pvp wise) to Gw2 bit at least I’m having fun, isn’t that what video games are about? Having fun?

Gw2 only gets me frustrated atm so until it gets fun to play again ill stay away from it.

SaintSnow.6593:

Actually pvp is more alive than ever in gw2. They have put in many changes that have more or less significantly impacted the old community and the new incoming community. Yea new maps and modes haven’t yet made it to the surface for us who have been in it for the long haul since day one. But it’s only been recently that pvp has gotten light in the midst of everything else so hopefully something will turn up in the near future. But for now I like where they are trying to go and I’m ecstatic that they are giving pvp the attention it desperately needed.

what?!… all they have done is fluff… new UI with animations and a new MM system that works even worse than before… balance is still the same as always buff classes to oblivion wile nerfing others to the ground, 1 year ago we had the closest thing to balance that we ever seen, then with the December 10th patch balanced was gone again and ever since we always age at every given time 1-2 extremely OP professions and 1-2 extremely useless professions, and with very “balance” patch these professions switch positions. to a point were it got frustrating to pvp instead of FUN…

the main reason I stopped playing Gw2 was exactly that! PvP is nothing but boring in this game, I’m playing another MMO right now were the PvP is simply awesome! although the combat mechanics of Gw2 are the best i’ve seen, it is just not enough to keep me interested.

That’s why i come to this forum often, in the hopes that something NEW freshens up the PvP here.

Zero Day.2594:

Volrath.1473:

Best way a thief can support a team is by not being in a team.

Or by being on the other team and dueling/trying to do 1v2 or 1v3.

Nomnom

I stopped playing out of frustration.
I log in one or twice a month to chat with some friends that still play the game and I log back out.

I’m playing another mmo and I’m having allot of fun and have no reason to come back atm.

Judging by this year’s patches and despite the devs effort to make the game better imo it is getting worse every time so… I don’t think ill come back at all unfortunately, I really liked the game…

Best way a thief can support a team is by not being in a team.

Peow peow.2189:

I am a well known guild wars 2 pvper and spvper that mains an asuran warrior. In recent times I have tried my best to fight thieves, however your class has become more and more overpowered over time and currently it’s in a state where even an average thief can take me down.

This never used to happen btw… But with the recent buffs and changes it has become extremely noticeable.

I have come to propse some changes my clan has been mulling over and to get some feedback from the thief forum.

Proposed changes to the class:

1) Increase reveal uptime to 6 seconds.

This will largely reduce the ammount of invis spamming happening. Currently 3 seconds in game ticks is nothing and you can easily dodge and cloak and dagger you opponent as if no time has passed.

By making it 6 seconds, we wont make invisibility unreliable but rather a more tactical skill than a spammable one.

2) Nerf backstab damage by 25%

Currently in world vs world, a thief on food with might stacks can easily crit up to 14- 16k on a target with high toughness. By reducing this by 25% we drop it into the 10- 12k range.

Quite a reasonable nerf that still allows the class to quickly burst down most light armoured enemies.

3) Greatly decrease vigor and swiftness uptime.

Thieves have access to what is easily the highest swiftness up time. You’d also be lucky to find a thief that isn’t running acro + trickery for 100% vigor up time.

By reducing the vigor on heal to 4 seconds and bountiful thefts vigour to 6 seconds.
This would mean you still have 50% vigor up time.

Swiftness would also be reduced to that you only gain swiftness on every dodge roll when you have 30 in acro.

4) Reduce condition cleansing ability

Thieves easily have the highest and fastest condition cleansing speed.
With Condition cleanse happening every time you heal as well as every time you become invisible – its hard for us to stack condis on you.

Change this so that you only cleanse 1 condition on heal and 1 when entering invisibility.

To counter these changes i propose these buffs.

1) Increase the ammount of toughness the stealth arts trait line gives thieves.

2) Increase the damage per shot from pistol pistol third skill – also make this skill slow enemies movement speed.

Thoughts?

Cliffs:

- Increase reveal uptime to 6 seconds.
- Decrease backstab damage by 25%
- Greatly decrease vigor up time and swiftness uptime (50%)
- Reduce condition cleansing ability of class (1 condition for stealth and 1 heal instead of 3)

Buffs

- Increase toughness aquired from stealth arts
- Increase damage from pistol 3 skill and slow movement speed of enemy

say what? the class is becoming more and more overpowerd? ahahahaha

go read ALL the patch notes from this year then come back and explain HOW are thieves getting more and more overpowerd! :*

Arikyali.5804:

Zero Day.2594:

sinject.4607:

can we get this thread closed or moved to the profession balance board?

I wouldn’t mind it being moved to the balance board. Everyone can then pitch in!

If that happens, we’re doomed.

Lol as if it could get worse hahaha

lordkrall.7241:

Volrath.1473:

“they” are working on a new game mode for over a year now. I can’t wait to see the outcome of all this time to put a single map… It must be mind blowing!!! …. Or not…

How do you know it will only be one map?

You also have to keep in mind that it takes loads of time to get something that works in the game while also making sure it is completely balanced for both/all sides and around all profession and possible skill combinations and so on.

It is a rather large undertaking, not just putting out a map and changing some rules.

Sure! Just like the other maps we have being skyhammer the best example! They are patching it over and over and ppl still hate it.
Were talking about anet here… It takes them 6 month to fix skill facts, how wold they come up with more than one map in a year time? I’m not expecting anything spectacular though…

ColinJohanson.2394:

That was poor wording in the press release, there is no “new game mode” in the traditional sense we’d think of (new map/ new rules) being released in this update, though our competitive team continues to work on new game mode options as we speak. As with all things, they’ll give details on this when it’s far enough along we’re able to talk about it.

The reference to “mode” is talking about how players will be organized in PvP games, details later this week.

“they” are working on a new game mode for over a year now. I can’t wait to see the outcome of all this time to put a single map… It must be mind blowing!!! …. Or not…

DiogoSilva.7089:

So, from what I’m getting:

- Practice Mode will be Hot Join skirmishes;
- Improved matchmaking;
- Improved dishonour system;
- Map selection;
- Ladder system;

Nothing mentioned on:
- Balance changes;
- New game modes;
- Improved rewards;

Seems like it’s be a much needed update on infrastructure, but I’m afraid the pvp experience will remain the same (conquest, same maps, same meta).

^ this right here!

I will probably update my client and have a go into pvp but I’m sure it wont last more than a couple of days, then I’ll go back to the game I’m playing right now that lauched with 2 different PvP modes… coff coff

Can’t you see?? It’s the bran new loading screen for temple!!! Woohoo!!

Ok lets take this to a real life situation.
Ppl don’t shoot fireballs from there hands, they don’t summon undead minions nor they swing huge hammers like they have no weights.

So yeah… I guess you can’t take the game to a real life situation…

Shockwave.1230:

Nah, the state of thief is very well balanced at the moment.

You don’t see them running rampant in PvP, and teams with 2 or more are often at a disadvantage.

let me fix that for your…
“You don’t see them running rampant in PvP, and teams with 1 are at a disadvantage.”

there! no need to thank me!

Just cuz i love tool and APC 10/10 +1

all channeled abilities track through stealth, it’s been like that since beta, endless treads about it have been buried and never once a-net replayed to any of them nor shown any interest.

so guess what’s gonna happen next…

so… whats new?

Malediktus.9250:

Economists say that Euro will be about 0.85 US-$ by 2017. They are probably preparing for the future.

LoL this will never happen. the Dollar is more likely to go down and increase the gap between them.

omg so many geniuses!!! I wonder why you are not all devs….

oh… i actuality know!

CboStL.4965:

Volrath.1473:

LoL
pathetic changes!

i’m out *

Judging by your post history, you’ve been gone for a while now. Yet you still come on here everyday to let us all know.

wrong.

I come here when I’m bored at work to see how things are. As I said many times and you probably didn’t read my posts just looked at the dates, yes I haven’t played for some time now. Yes I like the combat system of this game but lost a lot of players, competitive PvP is on life support, devs are “straggled” and cant do there jobs as they would like to.

No matter how they paint it, the viewers on tournament steams are around the 700’s (world wide) I follow non official players from other games that have 4-5x more viewers then these tournaments…

No matter how much I (we) like the combat system, the rest of the game is not good enough to keep players interested. Leaderboard are a joke, no dueling, nothing to do wile waiting for queues to pop besides jumping around in HTOM, Skyhammer. 4v5, 3v5, 4-5 players of the same profession in each match.

No rewards worth working towards and after 2 years imo it has reached the point of no return, the majority of players that left are not comming back because they are playing something else and actually having fun, this game is not fun to play anymore and the awesome combat system is not enough as you can tell by the huge drop of players (at least in PvP)

so yeah you will keep reading posts from me around here. I would love this game to have succeeded but imo it is to late now… even if they manage to get better balance and NEW pvp maps that are not conquest most players that left will not be comming back. I planing on playing is such Gw2 version but with a low PvP player base I wont stay for very long i’m afraid.

PS: read the link on my signature.

LoL
pathetic changes!

i’m out *

I use Google Authenticator

kyubi.3620:

Volrath.1473:

to late for me… I have seen 3 guilds guilds leave this game and I also left with my last guild.
I gave this game a lot of chances and the game fail me every time.

there is no coming back now. not to mention that were playing a different game atm and having actual fun for a change. the last couple of month have been frustration free so… why would I come back here?

Because world of warcraft (cataclysm and kungkittenpanda) and Aion failed you even worse then guild wars 2 and that TESO is litteraly the biggest marketing failure Bethesda ever made? I didnt mention either that everquest next gets out way later this year or the next so your long due for waiting a new mmo.

Truth is guild wars 2 despite all its mishaps is still the best mmo around here when it comes to balancing and system

Wow is old and boring nowaday i wouldnt come back to it unless they totaly overhauled their combat system and we know that wont happen

TESO is a theme park perfect world like game wich litteraly failed to deliver the final merchandise

Dont get me started on other MMO the only real competitor in view isnt even out yet and will take a year or two to do so

My guild moved to ArcheAge if you must know, and although Gw2 combat is superior to AA, the game itself is way better than Gw2 and it is actually FUN to play!! O.O

no more frustrating 4v5 and 3v5, we got player housing, boats, gliders, freedom to be/do whatever you want, you can me a merchant, a pirate, a thief, a crafter, a fisherman or all of them depending on what you feel like doing that day, you can attack players from both factions if you wish to, so yeah… I have no reason to come back to Gw2, at least in a near future.

Edit: did I mention that the game is FREE and you can play a monthly fee with in game currency (gold) if you want to? if you don’t you can still play it, the difference is only the player housing…

Atm i have a “subscription account” without spending €0,01 i’m paying with gold.

Ynot.8397:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Volrath.1473:

to late for me… I have seen 3 guilds guilds leave this game and I also left with my last guild.
I gave this game a lot of chances and the game fail me every time.

there is no coming back now. not to mention that were playing a different game atm and having actual fun for a change. the last couple of month have been frustration free so… why would I come back here?

Soooo… why are you here?

@OP: It’s a good sign, for sure. Hopefully it means we start getting balance patches a bit more frequently instead of only with feature packs.

Gotta tell Anet that they are happy without them!

It can only be a good thing if anet is willing to talk about balance more and have more balance patches. 2 months between patches is much better than we had before.

not saying it’s is a bad thing, ofc it’s good but as I said I’m very happy were I am and I’m not thinking of coming back in a near future.

And I’m here because I do like the game, I just don’t enjoy playing it right now.

Edit: not to mention the “desert” PvP was back when i last played…
with ArcheAge coming out and a lot of ppl leaving I can only imagine how it is like now days in solo queues, with the amount of posts here about 4v5 and 3v5 all day long…

to late for me… I have seen 3 guilds guilds leave this game and I also left with my last guild.
I gave this game a lot of chances and the game fail me every time.

there is no coming back now. not to mention that were playing a different game atm and having actual fun for a change. the last couple of month have been frustration free so… why would I come back here?

Devs r NOT in charge.
Follow the link in my signature and read it all.
Then come back and say you are sorry…

Games are meant to be fun to play, wen you get frustrated instead, you simply stop playing that game and go play one that is fun and entertaining.

I still follow this forum every week cuz I still have hope for this game, it’s sad to see it sink like this…

My whole guild (over 100 players) moved to a different mmo and tbh I’m having so much fun that I don’t even realize the time passing and end up going to work in the morning without having slepet

I would ask you if I cant have your stuff but… I’m also playing something else and haven’t logged in for some time now so… nvm…

Why?!…
Why would you come back? I wont be back b4 the next balance patch (8-10 month) to see what changed. until then you can find my whole guild in that new F2P mmo.

Mrbig.8019:

This game is not e-sport worthy, this game is a joke.

A joke with best combat system ever created, a totally wasted potential due to terrible devs decisions.

didn’t you know that devs don’t make decisions?

follow the link on my signature, and say you are sorry.