Guild Wars 2

ofc! I watch e-sports all the time, just not Gw2 since it does not fall into that category.

Amityel.5324:

nothing has changed same old boring conquest mode…….cant blame ANET dont know how to develop other game modes tho…..

AND HEY THEY DELETED 8vs8 most fun hot joins oh yeaaah

if you like zerg vs zerg so much go play wvwvw

I told you!

Should I laugh now or should I save it for points 4, 5 and 6?

1) There are more buged skills and abilities then not.
2) Lag is still a major issue, long spikes leave players and even teams helpless.
3) Terrain glitches lock ppl out of maps, glitches that YOU like to show us in your streams.
4) Balance?! Rangers doing 16k dmg from 1500 distance is balanced? how much HP do you have on your “pro” EZ mode spec has?

5) what did they promise you for this? another purple weapon?

not 1 thief in either teams?! now that’s a surprise!!!

/end sarcasm

a few months back in 3 days i did over 40 soloqueues and won 1 single game.
i was in the 500’s and went down into the 90’s% i also asked A-net what was wrong and why was I being place in the same team with clearly less skilled players.

the answer was, nothing is wrong, every this is fine! and since then i never entered a solo queue again…

Justin ODell.9517:

Sorry for the trolls. :\

This shouldn’t be an issue after the next SPvP release.

in 6-8 month as usual…

HyldahlSkyline.8493:

Im a ranger and thief, and as a ranger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnzC3FnWXIo

(Not my video)

Rangers are way to strong now, i am aware of;
- Some of them are low levels
- He picks the squishy targets
- He runs realyl squishy build

But that dosn’t change the fact that power rangers are way to strong now. They needed a buff for sure, no doubt. But this is pathetic. (but fun!)
I hope they balance the skills a little, i feel like im to stong.

OP?! no way!
1 shooting ppl from 1500 distance is perfectly balance, it has quite alot of counter play to it with all our downstate abilities!

Go troll the thief forum pls!

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Cynz.9437:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

yolo swaggins.2570:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Kako.1930:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

quaniesan.8497:

Check out these threads…..Ranger is OP, engineer is OP, necro is OP, guard is OP, mesmer is OP. Make up your mind, jeez.

Oh, no comment on Warr, Thief?

Good.

That’s because everyone who’s whining is either a warrior or a thief.

… kitten , hadn’t thought of that.

In hindsight though, makes sense. + two classes make up a significant portion of the profession balance.

Rarely do I ever see thieves complain outside of their own profession. Wars, on the otherhand, tend to complain that they need more DPS or CC more than they complain about other professions. It is usually the other professions that complain.

EDIT: Actually the reason why you don’t see warr/thief QQ alot is because war being OP is a given to the community and thieves are leaving their profession and hopping on war or guard.

People would be surprised how much kitten we have to do just to stay alive on the battlefield. Feel free to hop on War and give walking around with a “cannot disengage” target on your back a try.

and then there are nike warriors….

Tell me why they should be slow.

let’s see…

1) HEAVY armor (made if METAL)
2) HEAVY weapons (2H War Hammer; 2H Great Sword; Sword + Shield, etc…)

still they can jump long distances and sprint faster than a agile and acrobatic thief in leather carrying 2 daggers and a short bow… makes sense doesn’kitten

nickxnickx.5401:

Menzies The Heretic.3415:

Thief OP, pls nerf

again ….and again

after reading this, the first think that came to mind is: “they DO listen!!!” ahahaha

and again

Why is this thread on page 2?
It should be sticked. But apparently the screenshots of thieves looks are more important then guides to help out players…

In 8-9 months we will see more buffs to stuff like traps, and a couple of traits, obviously accompanied by more nerfs to stealth and dps.

If you wanna punish yourself playing this profession for another 8-9 months and see it get even worse, it’s your call.

Now days I play Gw2 and HS wile in queue for another game.
It is as good as solitaire…

Atherakhia.4086:

Volrath.1473:

Lopez.7369:

Hopefully never. They’re fine as they are.

hum… were have I heard that before…

AW yeah!! Thieves and Warriors when you guys came running to the forum begging for nerfs!

What happened to them?! oh yeah! that’s right!

But aren’t Thieves and Warriors still in the meta? Just like they’ve been for the past year? Where as Rangers, especially power Rangers have been? Where exactly?

You are absolutely correct!
Both thieves and warriors were NERFED and r still in meta. Why wold rangers get a different treatment? They WILL get needed. It is inevitable but hopefully they will remain viable. Just like thieves as warriors.

Sagat.3285:

Huh….on the bright side we got trap thieves in WvW…

tks for the laugh!

Lopez.7369:

Hopefully never. They’re fine as they are.

hum… were have I heard that before…

AW yeah!! Thieves and Warriors when you guys came running to the forum begging for nerfs!

What happened to them?! oh yeah! that’s right!

the queues are long but worth it
My whole guild jumped to AA and were having allot of fun atm. We need to see how the end game is but having played Rift, it must be awesome!!!

Afya.5842:

It’s for asura.

it doesn’t even touches the asuras…

Why would you have it cut ppl’s feet?! wouldn’t it make more sense to cut the head or at least cut they’re heart?

… the feet?!… what a waste of gems…

all they do is nerf what works and buff meaninglessly buff venom share.
even if they realize how terrible the thief profession is atm and decide to buff it a bit, it will not happen this ear so… you might as well play a different game until then , just like I’m doing.

Solori.6025:

Belarorn.9062:

I know ima get told to l2p as soon as this goes up. Don’t really care because I do know how to play.

Rapid Fire is still OP

Why? I know that other classes can hit for the same damage-ish. I have a few examples.

Hundred Blades – You can’t move they can’t move lets hope no one else hits you (while you stand there next to them) and you have to be in the range of all the AoE in melee range. Oh by the way don’t get interupted it takes a few seconds for all the hits to land

Backstab – OK still in Melee range and dont get hit with AoE’s this one is more OP then hundred blades but if you see a theif chances are you ain’t gonna stand there and paint a sign on your back. A good theif will still hit you but if you move around he might miss.

Rapid Fire – 6k dmg in a second or less??? Yes lets use the reflect block argument. If you see it coming. 1v1 you might but if they come in halfway through a fight you are done. Lets dodge roll. in the middle of a fight you might have 1. he’ll be back off CD before you if the other fighter has not killed you by then.

Compared to staff ele is way different. Ele takes a lot longer to get to the same #’s of dmg that a LB ranger can get to in less then a second.

The other Burst skills you have to be in melee. if you + 1 someone you have to avoid the enemy. Rnager does not have to at 1500 range Lets be serious you can hit from about 1800. just because the skill has it’s red bar does not mean it can not do dmg. IN Battle of Khylo I’ve seen rangers hit bunkers at mansion from top of clocktower. Good luck getting up there before you die.

Oh?
You have a screen shot of this ranger killing you in a second?

Here is one of thief.

I’ll wait for the ranger one shot from range you are talking about

I thought this was the SPVP sub-forum, but looking at your screenshot I guess this is the WvWvW sub-forum….

most of us r playing ranger right now. It is the “new” thief but without the need to get in harm’s way.

I lost 2 full guilds to other games since December last year, most of my current guild is playing Archage right now and the rest will join them on the 16th.
Difference this time is that I will not be looking for another guild. I will join them in AA on the 16th and if I like it, ill never come back.

GL to all you suborn thieves.

Blackjack.5621:

If it wasn´t a l2p issue all top teams would run ranger

dot worry, they will.

I hear this alot, they say it is a L2P issue and that I should roll one and see for my self so i did! i rolled one, fooled around a bit in HOTM on the NPC’s then went into sPvP.

here is what I found, I can one shot ppl on a very short interval of time, I got good CC and at the same time I can survive for a long time even when being beaten by 3-4 players.

it is so easy to play that I even made a macro that all I have to do is target someone press 1 and they die! I called it I WIN BUTTON.ahk

I main a thief and I need to be on the ball all the time, 1 mistake and I’m dead, I must be flawless to win a fight, then I play this “new” ranger and It feels like I’m playing GOD MODE, I done even die once in the matches wile always topping the charts…

Sorry A-net I don’t wanna play this game anymore!…

refection only kills brain dead rangers… any semi-decent ranger will cancel the skill if it is being reflected, stop using this argument, it makes you look dumb.

there are few thieves left to snipe. we are all playing rangers as well.
last night I had this match that was 4 rangers and a mesmer versus 4 rangers and a guardian.

well I us to use it to learn from more experienced players, since now I cant find them by there rank I don’t spectate anymore… there are allot of scrubs to waste my time spectating to find out if they are any good or not…

I thought that was the point of spectator mode. Now it serves only to broadcast tournaments nothing else.

I had hopes (silly me I know) this patch would be good for PvP, bringing build diversity and with it excitement and renewed interest in the game.
What it did (for me) was push me into Archage.

To those of you that will play this meta for another 8 month, I’m sorry for you. ill be back when the game becomes playable again. See you then!

it is obviously a bug that needs fixing asap!

Today on a skyhammer game I saw this engineer exploit the map multiple times.
I reported him in-game.

On point A, he found a way to climb all the way up to the top of the mountain and would just stay there aoe’ing every one under then jump down to finish them off. After that he would climb the wall back up again and repeat.

He did that the whole match. If you don’t remove this horrendous map from sPvP at least don’t allow ppl to make it even worse than it already is…

If you what a more detailed explanation of how he done it just ask. I’m not posting it here for all the ridiculously OP rangers out there to do it.

Keksmuffin.1450:

post #1337 will be the dev response

ahahaha few ppl will get it

never seen them…

Booms.2594:

i play guardian on sharks with lazers and youre completely right s/d thief is completely broken now. it will lose 50% of duels it use to dominate and its impossible for them to kill bunker guards.
steal bug will likely be fixed but atm its useless.

and they obviously what you to go poison dispenser P/P free kill.

new game next week, my whole guild is moving. HF!

Azure.8670:

Expiatus.4210:

And I’ll just leave this little tidbit I found on GW2 Reddit …https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWfPM8yc2ZA&feature=youtu.be

people have been talking about this for an hour or two now. prepare for some kind of nerf

yeah, in 8-10 month time, so get use to it. aw and that’s 1 ranger, now go into Tpvp and see how many of them are on each team LoL

ninja BUFF

in case you haven’t noticed Reveled in Spvp now lasts 3 seconds again!!! xD

tks for your help guys and sorry if I posted on the wrong place. Lets just hope I done need support ever again

Edit: Done, ticket is submitted, tks again!

how do I do that? I never had any issue before… is it in game?

hi,
Today i decided to by 800 more gems and did as I usually do and pay it with my Paypal account, only this time I got an error saying that the payment was refused.
Tried it again and the same error appeared… so I used my credit card and bought them.

a couple of hours later i get a bunch of e-mails thanking me for my purchases so I came home, logged in and I had now 2400 gems… I never wanted to spend that kind of money, I’m married and have a little daughter, my wife is unemployed and we need the money… that’s why i very rarely buy gems…

Is there any way you could remove the 1600 gems from my account and refund the erroneous Paypal purchases?

tks for understanding.

come on… some may thing in the game to complait about and ou go after Karl on the RU’s?!

He doesn’t feel comfortable in front of a camera but but still HE TRIES and does his best, and no one can ask for more than that!

I’m thankful for what he does FOR US.

tks Karl, ignore the haters, they will always hate no mater what…

Assassin’s Equilibrium
Can you please explain to us what was the thinking process that lead to this trait?
What made you think this would be good for this profession, and in what circumstances?

Why not grant stability on stealth instead of on reveled?

1.5 sec Reveled on stealth would help us a lot. We are constantly being CC as we enter stealth, we get knocked back, knocked down, feared, rooted and so on… and for that reason it no one will take this trait since you get stability AFTER you are CC’ed in stealth…

Even if it was just 1s ON stealth then it would be helpful and even maybe useful.
As you design it it, I don’t see 1 situation were it could be of any help to the thief…

Can you pls at least answer my questions?

tks!

I have also noticed that in wvwvw it happens to me very often wile using supplies! Building or repairing, I get stuck and need to teleport away or switch weapons to un-root myself…

the sPvP players that say such things are obviously clueless, if they try and play wvwvw for a few hours they would be surprised with the amount of rank 80 (Dragon Stomps) that are displayed in wvwvw.

Black Dragon.3784:

So thief is nerfed once again, it’s like Anet is saying role to another character. Seriously why do they keep nerfing thieves? I really want an answer from Anet

We all want them to explain the changes, the reason for the changes, what is the role they want us to fill.

It’s not that they don’t want to tell us, it’s because they don’t know the answers…

Good thing is, I don’t have to put up with this for much longer. My guild is jumping to a new game that will launches on Sep. 16th.

I might come back I might come back in 6-8 month just to try out the nefs form the balance patch after this one…

nearlight.3064:

BrunoBRS.5178:

Bryzy.2719:

Anyone saying the Ranger “won” the balance changes couldn’t be more wrong.

Most of the changes to Rangers have been needed since day one. They should always have been an integral part of the profession. As a result, Rangers have been considered the worst whole-game profession. This isn’t a “buff” for Rangers in the sense that it’s giving them an an advantage, because it’s not. It’s an update to help bring-up-to-par the Ranger profession, and even then it doesn’t address the profession’s core problem mechanic. After this u pdate Rangers might be on a more level playing field in the realm of power builds, however until the pet mechanic is seriously dealt with I doubt we’ll see much of a change.

buffs aren’t about giving advantages, buffs are about bringing underused playstyles into the meta.

ranger got a TON of positive changes that should open up just as many new playstyles. the fact they’re not suddenly OP is a mark of a good buff, not a bad one.

so they won.

/

I agree with this. Longbow builds will be better, but not really pvp viable in tourneys imo. Axe could be, but likely it’ll just be shortbow spirit 1111111.

Necros on the other hand got no new builds significantly improved or opened up.

well, thieves got the 2 most used weapon sets nerfed and got a minor cleave on Dagger #1 as a buff which opens up a world of possibilities, I can see the potential there and especially the build diversity this cleave will apen for us, I JUST CANT WAIT FOR THE 9/9

Rocketmist.5436:

Lol you kidding me, you can easily make a stupidly hard hitting p/d build with venom share pretty easily. 5000 damage in bleeds bouncing around out of stealth attack sounds pretty nice especially now at 1050 range.

sorry but you are wrong, condition dmg trait line for thieves is called Trickery, if you want to spec venom share you need to go 6 into Deadly Arts and 6 into Shadow Arts which leaves 2 points left. good luck spreading out 5k bleeding dmg with a POWER build…

The problem is that no one in the balance team plays a thief as main, they play it because they have to, its part of the job, and for that reason they don’t seam to know what they are doing, the info they have on the thief profession comes from fighting them not playing them.

If you constantly fight S/D and D/P thieves (meta builds) and lose to some of them you think “humm this is OP needs to be nerfed! what will we buff to compensate?! humm let’s see, I NEVER fought a venom thief so lets buff that and see if someone can make it work, since we can’t…”.

zapv.8051:

5. Thief: realistically they didn’t recieve that bad of nerfs and will still do the same things in all game modes, but the added reveal skills will affect them.

I think you missed the point here, no one thief complaints about the nerfs, they were well thought of and implemented.

The problem is that ALL other professions got nice buffs to them to spice up things and gained build diversity in the process, some more than others but in general every one ELSE will have new builds available to mess around with.

Thieves got “buffs” (if you can call them that) in areas that need to be reworked or even replaced, the so called buffs will be implemented in vain because the traits and abilities being “buffed” will not change anything at all, they are bad in design and nothing they can do will make them remotely appealing. So what I’m saying here is thieves are they ONLY profession that will remain the same after the patch with the aggravated fact that the only 2 viable builds to play competitively got nerfed (deservingly tbh), rangers and engis can now apply long lasting reveled, and no other spec was opened for us to play… so in sum, we are stuck with the same builds but less effective.

A-net keeps insisting on the venom share, trying to force us into it but it will never happen because by specing venome share the thief becomes completely useless, vulnerable and helpless in combat… we become venom dispensers, go in, share the venoms and gtfo asap because we have no stealth, no surivavility and poor dmg output. BUT still A-net insists on this nonsense… aw well , what else can I say…

8 months from now well have another “buff” to venom share and more nerfs to the <insert meta spec at that time>.

/rant

NinjaEd.3946:

1) Ranger (many great things)
2) Engineer (great focus on builds other than condi, loved it mostly)
3) Mesmer (major QoL on some phantasms, condi buff for idk what reason)
4) Warrior (stronger attention on new GM traits, well deserved nerf to adrenaline)
5) guardian (nice things, that meditation renewed focus and stability on tomes epic)
6) Elementalist (didn’t really see a whole lot, but some nice control on elementals and nice glyph buff)
7) Necromancer (awesome approach to lich form, nice DS change. Not much else.)
8) Thief (buffs but in the wrong areas, questionable nerfs but nothing really bad.)

^ this

Wyrden.4713:

they r fixing it if u pay attention, the adrenaline nerf is gonna be a rly huge nerf, ik that, i dont even play warrior.

I disagree, with the change to adrenaline, abilities will also build adrenaline faster so even if you fail an attack and dump your adrenaline, by the time the CD is over you will have full adrenaline to try it again. The only thing they did was deny warriors from having a second full adrenaline ability available if they missed the first one, by switching weapons, that’s all.

this change and the adrenaline decay should have been there since launch, anyway, better late then never.

I give up… sPvP and Wv3 is a nightmare… I wait 15 min for a queue to pop just to get 2-3 huge lag spikes and consequent disconnect.

I didn’t do nothing wrong to deserve such punishment, so, for now, I’m out!