Guild Wars 2

I think it will just stay on their mail until next week.

Bumping this up.

spoj.9672:

pyrates.5684:

Wethospu.6437:

AC P2

Detha doesn’t begin building traps

• Reproduction: Detha is in combat when going to the trap area?
• Prevention: Kill enemies. Use stealth to skip (don’t get in combat). Get whole team and Detha out of combat before going to the trap area?
• Fix: Get Detha killed.

Just wanted to add that I had this bug show up yesterday. However, the fix with getting Detha killed doesn’t seem to apply. We tried killing her multiple times, but she still wont trigger the trap building event.

Yeah i didnt think that bug could be fixed outside of restarting the dungeon. :P

IIRC, I have got it work after killing her. The event might be multistepped so depending on when it bugs you may get different results.

Can anyone else confirm this?

Raven.3248:

Terissimo.6852:

They fixed interrupting with paralyzation sigil so im not able to stop pugs from one shotting him anymore :C

Swirling Winds always works. I love trolling them like that

Can someone confirm paralyzation sigil?

So can someone explain how NPC aggro specifically works?

Interesting question though. If something reflects then everything should reflect.

Can someone verify whether Air Gun turns grenades into rockets or if normally reflected grenades just deal no damage?

Quickfoot Katana.8642:

Weth why dont you make a proper one and tell us here when you’re going to post it so that we can upvote it for the starting boost?

It’s all good, he fixed his spreadsheet. It was just amusing that so many people upvoted “evidence” without even understanding it at all.

Today I was playing arah p1 with my brother and some pugs. It was pretty epic. We wiped on Lupicus like 5 times until they wanted a guard to 1 shot it. Two of those wipes happened when Lupicus had less than 10k health. We also wiped on Jotun and half of the team died every skip even though I tried to stealth them. They got constantly revealed for unknown reasons.

Anyways one left and we got a guard for oneshot (I objected). It didn’t go very well and Lupicus lost only like 25% health so it was good that I had used Smoke Screen.

But was fun!

Enaretos.8079:

Plz Wethospu-sensei, show them the light of your supreme teachings o7

Unfortunately I’m like 15 hours late so most people won’t see my comment.

But hey, at least the topic is still getting upvoted.

Uhh, reddit strikes again; http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/31wbip/ascended_vs_exotic_gear_comparison_spreedsheet/

Sure, it’s nice that people upvote stuff but I think it would be better if the spreadsheet wasn’t completely wrong. Luckily the results are almost correct.

For a comparison, my post about weapon strength / attribute caps got 100 upvotes and lots of people telling me that I’m wrong.

Generally speaking “best” is subjective. If you have no one trying to do what you did, it’s not necessarily a very big accomplishment.

On topic, nice record!

Are videos of the runs available somewhere? Lots of trio records there.

Fixed issues and extended glossary. I will start working on Active Defense now.

Just wondering, does anyone still remember time when ambushes like the beginning of AC worked properly?

There would be no appeal system. Rating system would internally attempt to detect abuse (such as someone getting 50 votes during one day).

A public wall of shame is also an option. Instead of a rating, an evidence video would be needed.

Jerus.4350:

Wethospu.6437:

Yes, it would be once per account. If you downvote someone it’s your own fault if you play with him again.

Sounds like a better way to do it.

Curious though, would you be able to change your vote? Say someone grouped with me and I was all grumpy that day, they downvote me, I group with them again and have a wonderful time, could they amend their vote?

I know I know, bunch of questions, just curious, sounds ilke a cool idea to me that I know I’d be down to participate in.

Yes, that’s how it would work.

Robert.8206:

case: GMOTD : Downvote “Purple Miku” for ROFL reason

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case report:
percent of the players who obeyed: low, 13% (hey, lemmings, no need to think about it, just do it …..)
guildsize: 500+
guild core: PUG
score: -68

Someone getting lots of votes would be flagged as suspicious and reviewed by someone. Votes would be removed and a warning/ban/negative score given.

Yes, it would be once per account. If you downvote someone it’s your own fault if you play with him again.

There is an authentication API so it would work like login on this forum.

Yes, on all hostile encounters people would probably just downvote each other. But on average the guy who always participates in those encounters would end up with the worst rating.

If you play normally it should be fairly easy to keep up positive rating even if you sometimes get downvoted, excluding of course coordinated abuse.

This is a brainstorm topic for a possible community rating system. Nothing has been done yet and not exactly sure when I have enough time.

The goal of this system is to reduce negative behavior in dungeons and fractals by adding a consequence. This negative behavior includes:

• Kicking people randomly
• Stealing instances
• Not delivering what promised
• Not reading LFG messages
• Being nasty

The system would contain two components, viewer and rater.

The viewer would allow anyone search the database. The viewer would ask an account or a character name and return his/her rating. Additionally the viewer could show the best or the worst players.

The rater would allow people rate other people. This would require authentication with GW2 account by using the API. After login, the rater would ask for a character name and/or account name. Then it would ask is the person a party member, a buyer or a seller. Then it would ask for the rating.

Rating options for a party member:

• Player was helpful.
• Player was ok.
• Player didn’t meet the LFG criteria.
• Player was rude.
• Player kicked me without a reason.
• Player exploited.

Rating options for a buyer:

• Buyer was good.
• Buyer was ok.
• Buyer didn’t send gold.
• Buyer stole the instance.

Rating options for a seller:

• Service was good.
• Service was ok.
• Seller kicked me after receiving the gold
• Seller used exploits to complete the instance

Additionally the rater would have an option for a video link which can be used to prove negative behavior. Human admins would approve the evidence and give huge negative rating.

The biggest concern is people abusing the system. Bunch of people could easily ruin the whole thing by downvoting reputable people. Some kind of a system to flag suspicious behavior would be needed and real people to verify and ban the people.

All in all, not sure if the whole thing would be really worth of the initial and continuous effort. Feel free to leave your ideas or comments!

First version for general, meta, skipping and glossary are up.

http://gw2dungeons.net/dev/General

http://gw2dungeons.net/dev/Meta

http://gw2dungeons.net/dev/Skipping

http://gw2dungeons.net/dev/Glossary

Any feedback is welcome.

Warrior is a banner bot, Thief is a stealth bot and so on. The thing is, none of the roles are very complex.

I’m pretty sure the projectile goes straight but the animation is just weird.

Is that a general bug or only specific to thaumanova?

Lorgus.6148:

Also, why are people calling it “Necrid Bolt” when gw2dugneons.net has his single-target projectile listed as “Lupine Blast”?

Because wiki, you know.

I wonder what’s going on.

Fractals

Cliffside

Hammer disappears at the last fight.

• Reproduction: Multiple people trying to pick the hammer at the same time.
• Prevention: Don’t pick it up if you see someone trying to do it.
• Fix: Reset the fight.

Mai Trin

Mai doesn’t teleport back after a cannon phase

• Reproduction: Unknown
• Prevention: Unknown
• Fix: Kill Horrik, Mai can’t move anymore but will teleport

Molten Duo

Every AoE circle doesn’t get drawn

• Reproduction: Sometimes take damage for no reason
• Prevention: No known prevention.
• Fix: No known fix.

Molten Furnace

Progress bar at start doesn’t fill

• Reproduction: Kill enemies really fast before the bar appears.
• Prevention: Don’t kill anything until the bar appears.
• Fix: No known fix.

Drill never starts

• Reproduction: Kill initial enemies too slow, pull them away or get NPCs killed (not sure which)
• Prevention: Don’t try anything fancy.
• Fix: No known fix.

Doors to the testing area never open

• Reproduction: Frostbite stays behind fighting enemies or is dead when you approach the area.
• Prevention: Make sure Frostbite is alive and with you at all times.
• Fix: No known fix.

Snowblind

Elemental Source may put invisible Swirling Winds

• Reproduction: Random.
• Prevention: Unknown.
• Fix: Pay attention to damage taken and dodge out.

Thaumanova

Your character becomes invisible.

• Reproduction: Use an exit teleporter.
• Prevention: Don’t use an exit teleporter.
• Fix: Relog or enter the superheated room again

No prompt for the next level.

• Reproduction: Unknown.
• Prevention: Unknown.
• Fix: No known fix.

Everyone crashes to the desktop.

• Reproduction: Unknown.
• Prevention: Unknown.
• Fix: One player shouldn’t close the error report pop up. This keeps the instance alive until other people can reconnect.

Uncategorized

The barrier won’t open after killing Old Tom

• Reproduction: Don’t trigger the checkpoint at top of the stairs by using blinks and portal.
• Prevention: At least one person should run the normally.
• Fix: No known fix.

Urban Battleground

NPCs don’t spawn

• Reproduction: Unknown.
• Prevention: Unknown.
• Fix: Proceed normally. They may appear later.

CoE exp

Player freezes after destroying the crystal

• Reproduction: Destroy a crystal very fast after it appears
• Prevention: Use stability to prevent the effect
• Fix: Wait a bit or use http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ogre_Pet_Whistle

End chest doesn’t appear.

• Reproduction: Freeze NPC by getting her crystalized and destroying it fast
• Prevention: Don’t stack with the NPC
• Fix: Wait about 30 seconds

Arah exp

Every AoE circle doesn’t get drawn at Lupicus

• Reproduction: Sometimes take damage for no reason
• Prevention: No known prevention.
• Fix: No known fix.

Arah P2

Belka doesn’t appear

• Reproduction: Enter the area while some people (+ NPC) are a lot behind.
• Prevention: Run together and ensure NPC is with you.
• Fix: No known fix.

Berserker Abomination’s leap may deal damage at start of the animation.

• Reproduction: Unknown.
• Prevention: Unknown.
• Fix: Seems to happen only once.

Alphard resets to full health during combat

• Reproduction: Might be caused by Alphard being unable to attack some people.
• Prevention: Wait until everyone is in the area.
• Fix: Do more damage.

Bone wall at Alphard doesn’t go down

• Reproduction: Wipe at Alphard and quickly waypoint
• Prevention: If you wipe wait a bit before waypointing.
• Fix: Do a full party wipe or try to jump over the wall with swiftness.

Arah P3

Ritual doesn’t start

• Reproduction: Use blink to skip “Up the slope” dialogue
• Prevention: Trigger “Up the slope” dialogue, don’t blink straight up
• Fix: No known fix.

Wraiths don’t spawn

• Reproduction: Aggro and deaggro Wraithlord immediately?
• Prevention: ?
• Fix: No known fix.

Arah P4

Lyssa doesn’t spawn.

• Reproduction: Whispers agent? dies at the gate with Abomination.
• Prevention: Ensure Whispers agent is alive and with you.
• Fix: No known fix.

Lyssa doesn’t spawn.

• Reproduction: Whispers agent? dies during her dialogue.
• Prevention: Use stealth to skip spiders or don’t get near statue until you are clear.
• Fix: No known fix.

Simin always disappears at 50% health.

• Reproduction: Unknown. May not even be a bug.
• Prevention: Unknown:
• Fix: No known fix.

Apparently there are quite many dungeon halting bugs. Also there are some positive bugs which violate restricted record rules making them harmful in records and tournaments.

Goal of this topic is to collect as much info as possible from these bugs so I can document them on gw2dungeons.net.

There are lots of questions so feel free to contribute!

AC Story

Kasha doesn’t become hostile.

• Reproduction: Trigger multiple cutscenes at the same time?
• Prevention: Ensure cutscenes trigger separately (if you split).
• Fix: No known fix.

AC P1

Hodgins doesn’t start the burrow event (first scepter)

• Reproduction: Get Hodgins killed at the flame corridor.
• Prevention: Make sure he is alive before entering the room.
• Fix: Run to the far corner to make Hodgins magically spawn on the table.

After P2, Howling King doesn’t spawn

• Reproduction: Run straight to the boss area
• Prevention: Do the usual cave-in event.
• Fix: Do the usual cave-in event.

AC P2

Detha doesn’t begin building traps

• Reproduction: Detha is in combat when going to the trap area?
• Prevention: Kill enemies. Use stealth to skip (don’t get in combat). Get whole team and Detha out of combat before going to the trap area?
• Fix: Getting Detha killed may help

AC P3
Tzark doesn’t start the collector event

• Reproduction: Get Tzark killed when he talks at start of the collector event.
• Prevention: When skipping, run to end of the room to lose aggro from ghosts.
• Fix: No known fix.

Tzark bugs at somepoint

• Where?
• How to reproduce?
• How to prevent?
• Fix: Get Tzark killed.

Grast’s shield doesn’t work properly

• Reproduction: Allow Rumblus to interrupt Grast during shield (his stability only works once)
• Prevention: Kill Rumblus fast or use area stability
• Fix: No fix needed.

CM Story

The secret button can’t be pressed and the event is stuck at 2/3 separatists killed.

• Reproduction: The champion may miss and be in some other area.
• Prevention: Unknown.
• Fix: Search the initial area (where you killed the golem) and the basement.

TA F&U

Path doesn’t start after selection.

• Reproduction: When talking to Morrigu, choose other option than starting the path.
• Prevention: Choose the path first and then other talk.
• Fix: No known fix.

Path doesn’t start after selection.

• Reproduction: Multiple people talk to Morrigu at the same time.
• Prevention: Only one player should talk to her.
• Fix: No known fix.

SE P2

Infinite waves of enemies spawn during the escort event

• Reproduction: Kill the first boss while NPC is dead.
• Prevention: Ensure NPC is alive when killing the first boss.
• Fix: No known fix.

Door doesn’t open after escort event

• Reproduction: Kill the first boss while NPC is dead?
• Prevention: Ensure NPC is alive when killing the first boss?
• Fix: No known fix.

Door doesn’t open after escort event

• Reproduction: Kill 4 champions before 2 elites
• Prevention: Kill elites before champions.
• Fix: No known fix.

Glowing rock event doesn’t start after killing Taskmaster

• Reproduction: ???
• Prevention: ???
• Fix: No known fix.

End golems don’t turn hostile

• Reproduction: Get NPC killed after blowing up the door
• Prevention: Use stealth to prevent getting aggro or clear the enemies, make sure NPC is alive before you get down
• Fix: No known fix.

SE P3

Dredge cart bugs?

• Reproduction: Someone disconnects or leaves.
• Prevention: Don’t disconnect or leave.
• Fix: No known fix.

CoF P1

Slavedriver doesn’t trigger

• Reproduction: Kill the initial enemies real fast (< 9 seconds).
• Prevention: In highly coordinated teams, wait a bit.
• Fix: No known fix.

CoF P2

Magg doesn’t interact with magma stone

• Reproduction: Stand on top of the magma stone?
• Prevention: Stand bit further away?
• Fix: Move bit away?

Magg teleports to people at the waypoint instead of the magma stone

• Reproduction: Last people entering the waypoint is not in the explosive room.
• Prevention: Make sure you are clearly in the room before waypointing.
• Fix: Get Magg to the explosive room and retry?

Can’t hit the end boss Stone

• Reproduction: Target Stone and try to use melee attacks.
• Prevention: Remember a good spot or use untargeted attacks.
• Fix: Try to find a right spot/bit higher ground or use untargeted attacks.

Apparently ranging dredge carrier is efficient. Plus stacking behind corner of course. Also no stealth or might stacking.

But hey no worries, at least it’s “efficient”.

Rules are what the community wants them to be. They aren’t really following any logic.

I’m pretty the end boss is more dangerous on land than water so it’s allowed to give people a choice. If it can somehow be abused it will be disallowed.

I’m pretty sure most professions can quite safely take the hammer if they have full health and utilities ready.

Heavy armor doesn’t give health.

Just fyi, you aren’t supposed to tank hits in this game.

Anyways on topic. Does a polar bear bow count as a bear bow?

I doubt that. Perhaps 2 or 3 shot. Heavy armor reduces damage like 15% so instead of lasting 2-3 shots you last 2.35 – 3.5 shots.

Sure sure, I get this “elementalist so weak, warrior so strong” hate feels good. But truth is that without active defense you will get blown up and just because someone is a warrior doesn’t mean he is always the best person to run the hammer.

You don’t think “sorry fr” is a good enough communication?

You can have fun while skipping.

Most of the times you are facing elite enemies which take a lot longer to kill than the usual normal enemies on the open world, while still presumably dropping similar loot. By skipping them you save time and get the end reward faster.

Iris Ng.9845:

Arah p4: if you let the NPC die at the gate with Abomination, the event at Lyssa will not trigger. There is no fix for this bug.

AC p1 (after p2): if you run straight to the boss area before passing the usual cave opening the event will be bugged and not spawn the final boss.

Which NPC? Randall or fake Lyssa?

Reminds me of yesterday’s Arah P4. I’m pretty sure that total damage dealt to bosses from one player was less than 10k since he always ran somewhere and got killed. We finally had to kick him at Simin after spending ~5 minutes watching him to kill a spark.

Obviously we sold his spot to get something out of this misery.

I am.

Team won’t be disqualified but their time gets increased based on how long the event took for the other team.

carabidus.6214:

Lumines.3916:

Going full berserker’s is going glass cannon, and you cannot blame the game for “being too hard” when you set yourself up like that, everyone loves pumping out max damage but if you can’t handle it, don’t do it. There are lots of viable gear alternatives for a damage focused role that won’t end with you getting 1 shot from everything.

Because toughness mitigates damage so poorly in this game, many end-game foes will one-shot you regardless of how much toughness you have. This is why damage-centric builds are the most popular in the game: burn them down before they get the chance to one-shot you.

Toughness works fine, it’s not just needed.

I guess all of these would be worth documenting.

That would be nice!

Also it’s just an overview so you don’t have to follow those points exactly.

At the moment Ravi is doing a general stealth stacking guide and Iris is doing some kind of a might stacking guide.

Stealth stacking is quite simple so I think Ravi’s video will cover it completely. But for might stacking there will probably be multiple videos. For example a general guide and several in-depth guides. But no idea what Iris is doing so we will see how this all works out.

For pages I have considered this structure:

General page

• What are dungeons and fractals?
• How to gear up / find info (game settings, basic combat)
• How to use lfg (+ sellers)
• Exploiting

Meta:

• What meta means and what is the current meta
• Why it works and how it’s used (active def vs. passive def)
• Brief description of professions’ strengths and weaknesses
• Links to gameplay/build guides

Combat

• How to deal damage (melee, damage build, might, vuln, fury)
• Pulling
• Stacking
• Positioning and mobility

Active defense:

• Explain reflecting, absorption, dodge, evade, dodgejump, block, immunity, invulnerability, blind, control
• Strengths and weaknesses

Skipping

• Why?
• How to (stacking stealth, swiftness, mobility, teleports, portal)

Combos

• What are they? Overwriting fields?
• Important ones
• Links to stacking video guides

Others

• Combat / out of combat
• NPC aggro
• Linecasting

Glossary

• Terms like meta, zerk, ICD, stack and so on

However there is one big question mark, NPC aggro. Could someone explain how it works? And any ideas which page to put it?

Sometimes it means that they are looking for someone to carry them.

Picking up deals 30% of your maximum health so it doesn’t matter that much who picks it.

What about warrior banners?!

Story mode was only available in Living Story season 1.

IIRC, dormitories open up in scale 30.

If you don’t like betting feel free to bribe me instead.