According to the wiki, these were the features that Arenanet intended to add in the second half of 2013:
Professions and balance
-There will be new unlockable skills and traits.
Precursors, and legendaries
-New legendary weapons.
-New types of legendary equipment (possibly a trinket).
-New precursor acquisition methods (I am aware that Arenanet later announced that this would be postponed)
sPvP
-New map types.
-It will be possible to gain legendary weapon skins in sPvP.
-Additional rewards and growth will be added to the major competitive sPvP tournaments.Do you guys think that Arenanet adequately implemented these features?
EDIT: Here is a link to the primary source of these announcements.
The things that you post here are the ones which is pending you didnt post the ones that the already done. Ex. Ascended weapons/armor, new dungeon aka TA new path, pvp changes and etc.. they’ve already stated that precusor crafting (which is a stupid idea)will not make it in 2013 so it was cleared.
I say speed boots! Not speed runes….
Option to save build template…
Finally a thread that is worth it to read… +1
5k if I didn’t make 5 legendaries…
i dont, but it seems like it is by far the fastest leveling way
but then again why would i want to go to a higher level areas when the gear i need drops in those level 15 champions?Can u do Arah dungeon at lvl10? Can you fight head to head to an lvl80 toon in pvp and win? Imo this thread is pointless unless this is your first mmo and dunno the advantage of max lvld toon…
arah drops better than champions i would guess, right?
and i dont care much about pvp, but you are scaled to level 80 so yea i think you can go against 80’s
and this is not my first mmo, was playing world of warcraft for about 3 years and many others mmorpgs, but this is the first one i see a system like that
Have a proof that you can win against full exo gear lvl 80 toon vs scaled toon to lvl 80. You said u played wow? Then of all people you should know whats the benefit of a max toon. Yes you can have champ loots at lvl 15 but I doubt you can get an exo lvl 80 drop since your reward are scaled to your lvl…so still this thread is just another troll thread.
It’s funny, because I’ve never really associated the Trinity as ‘teamwork’. I mean, there’s no way to support your team if, say, the Tank or Healer goes down (excluding, say, an in battle res).
As for the teamwork in this game, I personally think it’s more down to encounter design, and less to do with the removal of strict roles.
As for vertical progression rewards, why can’t the reward for good temwork be cosmetic? I mean, if content is able to be done by zerging and with good teamwork, then that’s the fault of the content. Humans are programmed to take the path of least resistance, after all.
Back on point, if they created content that couldn’t be completed without near flawless teamwork(thus acting as the gate), why can’t it be a cosmetic reward?
If the bloody tank and healer goes down then you are the only guy left, are you still a team then? No you are solo!!!!!!
What a stupid argument “Then there’s no way to support your team anymore” well no kitten because they are all dead!!!!
If your team is stupid enough not to ress then yea your solo!
i dont, but it seems like it is by far the fastest leveling way
but then again why would i want to go to a higher level areas when the gear i need drops in those level 15 champions?
Can u do Arah dungeon at lvl10? Can you fight head to head to an lvl80 toon in pvp and win? Imo this thread is pointless unless this is your first mmo and dunno the advantage of max lvld toon…
Kiel nerf fractals drop! Oust kiel!
Wow lots of haters really…
Any objective comparison between a P2W and Gw2 will result in a positive answer to the question.
P2W games had alsways tried to mask the p2w between alternative way to obtain same effect in game…
FIRST CASE:
For example…in many games you can “enchant” your weapon….the more you enchant it the more you risk to lose enchantments or similar.But there is a store item that will avoid this effect.
Now at a certain point the effort to enchant it becomes so extreme, that you actually need the shop item…..
In Gw2 we have exactly the same….now with the gem becoming out of reach due to the system that is clearly designed to make gem unaccessible the more time pass…
SECOND CASE:
There are indeed pve items in the shop that gives you a HUGE advantage.RESS orbs repair canister are just a couple example
THIRD CASE:
What about another famous example of P2W games?
Craft booster
20 level scroll
level scrollIts a common item in P2W games
FOURTH CASE:
In a game where GOLD is the universal way to acquire BEST EQUIP……
Changing real money with GOLD is actually the best way to WIN…..If you compare common P2W game they have the same EXACT features…
You can THEORETICALLY do the same….but the grind associated is pushing you a lot into pay real money…..When the game was released the only reaso it wasn t considered a P2W game by most reviewers was the low conversion cost gold to gem making buying GOLD unefficient and gemstore accessible by playing.
Since there we saw a 300% increse in gold to gem…..AND Patches explicitly forcing players into buying GEM items
(Ascended armor/weapons while keeping expensive skins at exotic, and the infamous upgrade extractor).
All that you mentioned above.. can you one shot a player with those? Tell me if its does and have a proof then ill agree that Gw2 is P2win.
Trinity sucks! I remember when used to play Lineage when you reach the endgame map you cant even go out and explore without buff from healers so you have to go to town buy a buff…. and yes they selling buffs!
You can’t classify GW2 as an MMORPG, it’s just not.
And why is that exactly?
Last I looked, MMORPG stood for Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game.
- No PvE end game. (and no grinding boring no challenge dungeons over and over and over is not end game. Undefeatable raid bosses are end game)
- No gear progression at launch.
- Pay to win.
Triple fail. They should have charged a sub and implemented good PvE content at launch. Yes not having the trinity was a huge mistake also. It’s like all these new fail games are trying to fix stuff that isn’t broken. One things for sure they won’t get any more of my money unless they do a huge overhaul of the game, not likely to happen.
Except the Trinity is somewhat broken, or the aggro mechanic part of it at least. The tank charges in, and can keep threat indefinitely, despite higher damage coming from other sources, and someone keeping that meat shield that the boss keeps hitting alive. Now, if tanking didn’t rely on aggro control, rather body-blocking attacks and CC / damage mitigation, I’d agree.
In my opinion, the Trinity doesn’t represent true teamwork. Tell me, what sounds more like teamwork to you:
- Boss fight, healer goes down half way through, fight automatically fails.
- Boss fight, Player A gets Downed. Player B knocks the boss back and Immobilises, while players C and D get Player A back on their feet.
And while a lot of things aren’t ‘broken’, they could definitely be improved.
- Since when does a game have to have raids to become an MMO? If all you’re going to do is instanced content that divides the player base up, wouldn’t that make it more like a lobby game?
- Again, why is this a must?
- This phrase has lost all meaning. How exactly is GW2 pay to win? Do you ‘win’ when you get to level 80? Or when you get Ascended? I suppose it does depend on the individuals’ definition of ‘win’.
OP, the only thing I can say is that I feel there are a few main things that are fault more than the actual combat system itself:
- Event Scaling – Most big bosses only scale in damage, as opposed to mechanics, and that’s up to a maximum amount of players. Thus, you don’t need to pay attention to mechanics, thus zerging.
- Encounter Design and Mechanics – Most mechanics a) don’t utilise, or detriment, other aspects of combat, such as control or buffing, or b) these mechanics can simply be brute-forced by damage.
+1
Hi guys,
I’m a working person (10hr daily) that still love to play this game when i have a free time.
When i decide to play this game and expend some of my time on it was because we were told that was not going to be any grind focus like most MMO out there.
I have seen people that craft an entire ascended armor in less than a week, they deserve it since they put a lot of effort.
I feel sad sometimes because i know i will never have the time to make a entire ascended set with weapons because of the time it requires.
Purchasing gems IMO is really good for people like us, that in 1 day we can get enough money to get items that took 1 month to us.
Dailies are great also, they allow people like us to expend 30-45 minutes at day to get laurels and then buy jewels with it eventually (slow but effective).
Dear Anet would you consider to make options (like jewels) for people like myself to at least have a hope that one day we will get ascended armor and weapons?
Thanks for your attention and excuse my bad English. . . i try my best =s.
No need rushing ascended set as current content can run with full exotics. I myself rfor example have the gold to buy all damask that i need to build my set if I want to but I dont. Like I said you can do content with exo gears so why rush it. Unless they add agony dmg to all normal mobs so yea rush my set but until then just chill and work on it slowly…
You said something about “more focus on teamwork” but this is likely why they are leaving. There’s actually no focus on teamwork to speak of, which WoW does very well.
No teamwork? Which the hardest dungeon path you’ve played? Just curious.
Open the GATES!
Cleary the OP didn’t play other mmo with same wp mechanics except others cost so much and other mmos need even a scroll to wp somewhere that you need to buy…
No use bro haters will be haters!
You know.. I have a family and a full time job, and like video games. I decided to get this game cause it was supposed to be balanced. Your win/lose situation on WvWvW (I don’t play dungeons) would depend on player’s ability, not on gear.
Now all this craze about making ascended armors and weapons. I definitive DON"T have the time to farm stuff and laurels and bla bla bla don’t know what other stuff needed to make a set or a weapon. Even the hardcore gamer’s that can have the time to farm are complaining about the difficulty and the TIME to getting the mats.
Soon, lots of people that can afford to play this game all day, will have ascended stuff vs the normal players that the most they can afford is exotic.
This game is just becoming like the rest of online FARMING video games. If I wanted to do hardcore farming, I would play Farmville, for Christ’s sake.
I have 2 kids and a full time job and I have 5 legendaries…..
I have 3 GWAMMS, 3 50/50s and I am still playing actively, 2 of GW1 friends still play (they even have more AP than me). The rest are either really casual or have quit completely, they mostly just level up characters and quit once it’s level 80.
And here’s a screenie of me casually browsing for a dungeon..
Yes, I just clicked on each and screenied, I didn’t sit there for 10 mins on each trying to look them up. This is what people see who want to go on a dungeon.
7/12 had no listings.
Its Winters day. Every body’s busy with their achievement.
<———-GWAMM and 50/50 HOM. Still alive and having fun!
Well I can only speak for me personally. I quit because of vertical progression and because fractal levels were reset. I don’t find enjoyment or challenge in any of the new content and the story telling is too light for my appreciation.
And yet your still here in the forums? Lol
Well I can only speak for me personally. I quit because of vertical progression and because fractal levels were reset. I don’t find enjoyment or challenge in any of the new content and the story telling is too light for my appreciation.
And you are still here in the forums? Lol
How to obtain this?
Just wait when you get to orr and try to get a skillpoint guarded by a champ…will be fun..
Try to run lvl41 dregde fractals with all rangers then you’ll know what’s the importance of each and every class. And let’s see if you can out heal dmg or dodge all attacks by your own… if you know how to play your profession then you should know what your profession can or can’t do and that you need other profession to support you…
I play only wvw for fun, no stupid farming or temp events camping (I already have a job in rl thank you). Until now I managed to craft only one weapon for one of my build of one of my 8 characters. When ascended gear will become overwhelming in wvw, since I won’t be able to afford gearing my character as I want and as I did for all of them during the exotic-gear-age, I will quit the game. I lost faith in you anet. Have fun breaking pinhatas
I know players only playing wvw but have tons of gold. I dont know how you play but if your raging that much cause of ascended/ gear progression then yea the game is not for you…tbh I dont think you can find a mmo that doesn’t have gear progression (excluding Gw1). Gear progression is starting and it will not stop here until they release legendary gear in the future(you should check the test legendary trinket) im sure you’ll rage more. Atm imo Gw2 doesn’t require you heavy grinding unlike ex. Allods, wow, Aion etc. Gl finding an mmo without grinding though. ..
I agree with this! World events right now are in an awkward place where you can’t fully afk them, but they’re way too boring to give your full attention to. With the increase of boss HP, it’s pretty unbearable for me. I really don’t want to grind dragonite ore from world events. I hope they add new places to obtain it.
Get your lazy kitten to work if you want something in game. I have made 5 ascended weapons and still have 5 stacks or dra ore and empyreal. If you can’t stand to do a simple event and even they add new way of acquiring Im sure you still have complaints… as of now events are enough to acquire these things.
Grenth doesn’t like copy cats simple as that. ….
Im sure if they made it hard to acquire this thread will be a whining thread. And people will say oh another grind….
There’s only one rule when im pugging. Excessive dying will not be tolerated.
Oh boy…. here we go….
I had also experienced my party running fractals we were in 3rd frac it was a competent party. Half of 3rd frac he said brb then us 4 decided to continue it while waiting after we finish he still afk and no response. The sad thing is we cant kick him cause he started it. We waited for 30mins after that had no choice but leave the frac but of course we kick him so everybody will disband so he cannot benefit from when he decided to get back. But still it was a waste of time…if wr can only kick party leaders it would be nice. .
You guys forgot to mention that in order to create effective build he needs to capture/unlock skills. You also need access to 3 campaigns for to capture those skills. Ex if your build requires a skill from nightfall which you dont have access to then you cant use it cause you dont have the campaign. So its wise to buy a trilogy and I would recommend to buy skill pack from their ingame store so all the skills will be available to you and saves the pain of unlocking/capture it. Just buy a load of skill tomes normal and elite to get it right away. Then try to use Gw pvx wiki for builds for you and your heroes copy the template and load it ingame ( such convenience we dont have in Gw2 lol).
I still have loads of skill tomes, unused minis gold In gw1 just add me ign in Gw1 Wing Destroyer might able to help you in game. I can also show you how to lvl your toon from 1-20 in couple of hrs….
Because we need brains to play fractals not just AP.
A legendary? 4.000 gold for a skin? Are we nuts? All the time that needs to be put it’s not worth for a skin from my point of view. And then I’m thinking… and what will the player that’s selling this 4.000 gold legendary do with all that gold?
Do you think that gw2 should put some kind of “usefullness” on gold in endgame?[/quote]
Legendaries aren’t just skins anymore since you can select stats you want according to your build.
If you say gold is useless then I guess no need for Anet to release precursor scavenger hunt that many players are waiting for dont you think?
How many stack do you have?
I think the fractal loot table are messed up atm.. even fractal skin box doesn’t drop just a random skin
This is a good thing imo. Now they have a reason to put npc that can change the fractal skin like they did with gathering mats. So rejoice and hold on to those skins..
WE LOVE FRACTALS! Now can we close this?
Who said Fractals are bad? The casuals? Lol! The only thing I dont like in the update is what they did to dredge. For most players fractals satisfy the hunger for challenge imo. The one’s that are complaining mostly are the ones who cant handled it. Imho fractal is one of the best addition to Gw2.
It should no problem to make a NPC for it. They managed to do it with infinite gathering tools, too.
Correct. Need to push it as compensation for the loss progression. .. providing its unused. .
This makes me so mad. When they release ascended armor, why bother, if it will end up being obsolete in a future release?
To keep people grinding.
I will probably stop playing if they will do lvl 90 and I will have to recreate all ascended items from lvl 80 to 90.
I don’t enjoy the grind…
A few dungeon run should do it. I dont see any problem getting to 90. After all dungeon run are part of everyday routine now..
According to ArenaNet’s Mike O, we can expect a lvl cap increase in the coming future. Here is the quote below:
“More generally, I hope we’ve been clear that GW2 is not a game with virtually no stat progression in it like GW1 was. That’s why GW2 shipped with a higher level cap, and with a hard separation between PvE and PvP. In GW1 we never advanced the level cap through four campaigns/expansions. The game design didn’t allow for it. But GW2 was designed without those restrictions, and we’ve always expected that we will someday raise the level cap in GW2”
Now, I hope when this does happen, we will get new lvl 90 zones to play in with new permanent content, basically an expansion. Also throw in a new villain in our personal story since Zhaitan is dead. (preferably they make Trahearne into a villain, a man who allow the taste of power to corrupt him).
Also when this happens, would legendaries automatically get bump up to lvl 90 as well with new stats?
So is this in the works for 2014?
Makes sense since ascended armor will come out. We will be needing it if they release a map with higher lvl of foes.
Found one in CS near Grenth temple.
We need to push this as compensation. They can do like they did in gathering material…
Dear Anet,
Is there any possibility to convert into a box all the unused preexisting fractal weapons as a little compensation for our deleted progress in the old fractal?
Not sure if serious or if trolling. Pay to win a fashion contest?
The very definition of the opposite of P2W is cosmetics – at least in the F2P model.
Now excuse my while I go and buy a flamekissed armor skin and go use my unfair advantage against Tequatl, people in PvP and solo a Abbandon’s zerg – with my level 2 alt longbow bear ranger.
Maybe the OP hasn’t played P2win mmos lol!