^ i like that
kittenter mes u mostly got 1 free spot for portal or condi cleansee or whatever so u can take portal(i would say its best escape mechanism when there r only 1 -2 enemys)
tho barely someone plays shatter mes, every mes i see in wvw r pu mesmers who spam all their stealth skills then die to my single burst >.<
well u can use distortion, if ppl r ccing u a lot and there r static fields wich would stun u after blink or whatever, use decoy for stealth, blink, mass invi- thats how i mostly escape if i dont take portal
edit: as mes who uses shatters
^ first words
idk why it translates em to kittenter
wrote : shatter as – reverse the words
and i wont say its rly a bug, u gotta run through, thats how its designed i guess, if they make it a field like ehmm.. lets say timewarp, it would have a max amount of players and mesmers wouldnt be able to completely stealth a zerg
just jump on it, works same as focus 4
^ actually hitting w shatters isnt rly easy especially in eotm map
reason: terrain
another : experienced players mostly use smth to prevent getting hit by shatters , if someone gets them w leap they either block during immob, cleansee and dodge, using some kind invulnerablity, or they dodge into running clones to prevent dmg taken
but..but shatter condi spec ?:(
i got a 0/20/20/0/30 shatter condi build in mind
with on clone death and cd for staff in chaos line
and we get a new shattermesmer playstyle! condi shattermes! u will be missing out on self shatter but still, now we gonna add torment+ confusion on every shatter, and on f2, :0000 condi and torment spam ftw!
hope torment lasts at least 5 seconds
gonna get condi gears rdy till patch
and chaos, time for u to announce a new omfg build contest!
everything seems useful
besides the fourth , thats just useless
we can frontline zerg now thanks to dueling trait !!!!
oh nice, just too bad i am in eu atm lol
k thanks, so it works to blink up without a target as well?
someone has a video of explaining how they manage to go at spots w it as if they were using blink?
i know that u have to be good spotted etc, but i only managed stuff like that in combat when fighting other ppl randomly, whenever i tried out of combat it failed
if there is no video, someone can explain how it all works?
not just me btw, had some friends wanting to know it as well since they found it very cool in some videos
ps : not sure if its a bug
wow hope something new for shattermesmers shows up, anyone else wonders what miam the disillusioned can be?
maybe smth that replaces phantasm skills w aoes (‘.’) zerging inc
if they make max4 illusions trait i am jus gonna say that they r doing it wrong lol
maybe the disillusioned can be an on clone death trait as well, heavy punishing for killing a clone :0
its true ^
mesmers got in combat high mobility tho, nic roaming as mes, but thats really all u got
used it on my shatter build alongside decoy and blink today seveal times(tpvp) it works wonders
its true as long as the players arent on that red downed state zone in wich they instantly die^
i am for the 5v5 mesmer tourny, i wanna see enemys going : wtf !
the cast time is rly rly low , and 15 seconds r soo much, its pretty awesome balanced
and the getting downed in pve/wvw is a bug i think?
and what u do if there r 2 warriors? 1 moa on each wont help 2 mesmers out if all of em know what they r doing lol
i c, thx for the build
all i care for is taging ppl for now so i wont say its organized lol
also thx for the explanation why it was so powerful
someone could post a glamour build mainly for wvw zerging and tagging? and since i didnt play for a long time i ’d like to ask why glamours were so strong, all they do (for now) is 1 stack confusion (might have been more stacks of confu long ago, idk)
anyway all i wanna do is tagging ppl so i get some loot and wxp (ik its pretty selfish , but we dont rly have many ways to do smth else, i probably still will be able to veil the zerg and use tw anyway (all they need from mesmers , ppl nowadays…)
uhm idk what i want yet honestly ..
i would like to know if i would for example have a duelist out, and if it crits and applys bleed(traited) , the bleed is useful much?
so , since barely some people are using mantras atm coz they arent as good as most of the other utilitys mesmer has i got an idea
how about changing the 3 charges mantra trait:
’u cant charge mantras anymore, instead, for each critticial hit (or smth else like, everytime u apply a condition to enemy) all mantras get a charge
ICD 3-10 seconds’
how about it guys? post any other ideas u got :p
this would make mantras more accessible and would create a build diversity unlike our usual : 20/20/0/0/30 – shatter build
20/20/30/0/0 pu build
etc
ps: u could also make that u only get one charge, u can use the mantra u would want to use once, the stack is gone an not that all mantras ge a charge
post ur ideas!
so i need a bit help, i’ve been always playing power mesmer /shatter and never rly played condi in wvw
i am gonna make a full set of ascended trinkets right away but i am not sure at all wich set i should take…
most people prefer dire and rabid, idk tho, would be nice if someone could help, ty
oh kitten i see >.< ty anyway
wich server is actually doing tequatl pretty frequently?, just migrated and in eu they were doing them like everytime, now i just cant find a server whos doing it
thx in advance
acutally, w evasive arcana u can:
atune to water :1k + heal , spell 5 2 k heal, dodge 2 k heal, skill 2 1 k heal
d/d btw
anyway, as d/d , i mainly use water for quick heal and to chill enemys, awesome against runners, water spells r fine as they r
if u wanna play d/d , yday i made this build, works quite well for both duels and pvp
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vEAQJAoIhUM6c24wwZAg8wlTYZUIkyjcmxGA-ToAAyCsIQShkDJDSSksINKY+B
lightning flash can be swapped for arcan shield
it doesnt have much dmg, but u can survive pointfights , works well in 2-3 vs 1 as well (u r the lonely guy )
this build works awesome vs miniomancers as well, some of u got difficultys vs em
u might say, d/d isnt viable in pvp, give this a shot, it works quite well
i pretty much liked the build as well, had fun in 1 game w it
on second game i was beeing chased by a war the whole game >.<
arcan shield coz casting spells during blocking 3 atks, in mistofrm u just r doing nothing by taking no dmg, useful while casting meteor:p
oo chaos, nice to see u trying ele
been a fan of shatterlock:p
i personally think eles in duels r pretty good w s/f
i only got difficultys vs guards w blind and warrior w soldier amu and all points spend in last 3 treelines, didnt play warrior longer than 1day before i got bored so idk what kind of build those r, they got x/shield and bow
does ur duel end when someone gets downed or when u die entuirely?
i got an spvp build w downed dmg etc wich is pretty good at pointfights, just die in middle of point and u tick 4 k only w the fire thingy around u, and deal 2-4 k crits w downed auto atk, more w the skill 3 in downed, kind of a suicide ele:p well here is the build:http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vEAQJAr9AdOLZ4zQgQUgCmQoQAIeYBOAHWKkDA-ToAg0CnIQShkDJDSSksINKY+B heal depending if there r heavy condi classes like necro or engi in enemy team, same for elite w map
tipp: when ur skill 3 has 3 sec left to use, use vapor form again and then go down on spot u want, u create a lava tomb once again, pretty strong
well if it isnt build u asked, it suprises me how many eles dont know that , maybe u neither , so just telling if u r fighting a condi prof, skil 4 on focus on earth cures 3 condis
against necros i mostly use air 5 w focus, switch fire during cast, dragon toth , ohonix, and they r pretty much dead alrdy, considering u surely gonna burst w lightnings as well
engis, idk rly, never rly seen any good ones(seen some but pretty rare
bursty wars r easy, some who got few defence traits r alrdy nearly impossible to kill
mesmer, cc and burst wont help u much, and u never gonna hit w dragonstooth so dont other trying, since mesmers mostly die easily w few hits(if u hit em, i mained mesmer for rly long so i always knowwch is the real one) i just kite around, dodge phantasms/shatter, and hit w lightnings, once in a while trying phoenix
guards, blind and blocks r a pain, since we dont do many hits, few but powerful hits, just try avoiding their symbols, they will proc burn on u wich hurts more than their actual hits mostly(over time)
other ele, try avoiding their burst,, thats all i am gonna say
ranger, bearbows r the easiest if u got focus, they just spamming from range, u can either reflect all w focus earth 4 or destroy all projectyles w air
condi rangers, u can cleansee quickly if needed, since their weap dmg wont do much, try keeping ur distance anyway(most condi rangers r w sword and dagger), get out of traps asap
thiefs, didnt see many good ones so wont say anything, most thiefs just did last hit when i was fighting other ppl(backstab) , didnt notice em coming (stealth)
i may be wrong at some points so correct me if so and dont hate;p
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people still run 0/10/0/30/30?
Pretty sure almost everyone does.
0/10/10/30/20 here :p
auramentalist ftw w aura share and every aura boon thingys and 65% boon uptime, its close to perma protection, maybe perma never rly checked, and u got perma fury, speed, regen, etc
Anti hater :
Ofcorse these forums are full of haters and trolls.
Here is what I saw:
- You kept your team alive,healed and cured
- Perfect CC at the correct time
- You did what was needed to not die, and win the fight.Really,what else can you ask for?
- They came after you 2-4 at a time, and you did not die.Even vs a hammer spam warrior and buddies working as a team.
- You and only you caused the death of three directly that would have got away for sure.
I had no opinion on clicking as you call it, before this. I assumed all used mouse/hotkey. That said, it seems to work for you just fine. Do not listen to the haters hun.I watched many of you vids and you seem to kill whoever you want and never die even vs 2-10 on 1.I for one am impressed. Do your thang girl!
Like many, I am/was bored of the same old classes and builds.I was inspired and made myself a full support/healer. I am having a blast.
I am curious about the advantage you talk about on many vids from this click-style?If it is secret can you PM me
. In one vid you slipped? Said somthing about off-axis misses during a tight linear circle straffe?Does this mean getting evades of sorts when you don’t actually evade?
Sorry to be so long. In one vid I actually played with the pause key. in one tick I saw you get over 2400 regen???? What is this secret? Do you tell others?
Anyway I liked the vid,Do not be discouraged by trolls.
Great song mix also. Who is it?
ola lay viva la razaI’m inclined to agree with this guy myself. In the end its the result that matters. They didn’t die despite being outnumbered, the enemy did.
he did well even tho beeing a clicker, yes, but his opponents were srsly so crap.
and on top, again, if he would be bashing his keyboard he would have done way better.
o thanks!
btw on arcan power, all 5 atks make the arcan surge effect?
someone can give me a pvp build for s/f elemental surge? just so i got an idea how the build should look
no1 said we r bad in pve, we rock in pve
wvw is … ok~ i would say, its not as kittenome r talkin about
in pvp i cant seem to manage d/d weaponset no mather wich build, and i cant even figure why , w scepter /f or s /d its going ok, but u cant beat : example a war
one of the problems in wvw is we cant use smth else besides cantrips and arcan skills (some might disagree , thats my opinion)
we dont have any build diversity, if we wanna survive we gotta invest points in earth or water(tons of points)
in shrt, eles r rly ok to good, but we only got few viable utilitys for wvw
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there r few combos like : chunnin earth + lightning flash or burning speed + lighning flash (second is way more difficult to do if u r bad w keys) or earthquake + lightning flash (using it mostly in pvp when playing scepter/d)
anyway, while lvling u better try to kill mobs w combos like those if u gonna play d/d, its nice practice
Sin pretty much Eva
wat
evade
If you are running anything else but d/d (or staff for zergs) you are bad imo. I didn’t just start playing. Granted I probably don’t have as much wvw experience as some people here but I’m a veteran mmo player and have always played in the highest level in all of them as I do here too. The points the other dude made about why cantrips are mandatory hit the nail on the head. Scepter/dagger burst might work vs a bunch of noobs but no good player is ever going to get hit by your tooths and birds. Scepter belongs in PvE. Which is a shame because Scepter does have a few interesting spells like earth 2 and 3 and air 2 and 3.
Whenever me and my friends see a S/d we know he is glass and we focus him down he has no chance. The spec provides zero 1v1 and 1vX potential and staff wins because of range in zergs.
When a good player realizes you are not running armor of earth and just a single stunbreaker he will /laugh and proceed to kill you.
Ofcourse if it works for you on your server and you’re getting many camps and kills than by all means keep using it. This thread however is purely for d/d as it is what I main and would never change unless it gets nerfed to hell. And more specifically it is about determining some math base basic guideline for hp/armor/healing/dmg breakpoints and values in relation to eachother. I will stress again math in a vacuum is not the best way to approach gw2 considering the way combat works in this game as opposed to other mmo’s but it is still good to form this basis to solidify builds more based on actual sound calculations rather than random player experience.
actually u can fight w scepter / dagger in wvw pretty well, and u have to stun /immobalize enemy to land the dragon tooth, immobalize better coz enemy wont expect it:p (arcan surge) , everyone has their preferences
and they cant stunbreak immo*
it said 6 seconds , but can now applied if u had swiftness before, means u can actually run through mulltiple times for much speed
patch notes false tho so dont bother
take a force sigil to dagger, the build seems pretty much stable :p
nope, eu sry
There is a “Looking for Team” forum under the sPvP section for this specific purpose.
Give that a try.
but its also elementalist based since he looks for an ele :p
well that insane. u basically kill ppl w 3 skills, burning speed, lighnting flash, the aoe fire thingy
impresive
but hows ur survivability
kitten , well happens
american or european server?
about fgs in wvw = http://youtu.be/dsdib4FVqLM
perfect to bust zergs, i several times managed, this was only time i recorded tho, came way too late
Then I guess I’m only facing poor players.
Yes.
Gotta give me the name of that program you used to hack my pc and watch my PvP matches. Because I’m sure your opinion isn’t mostly based on theory. As for my part, I can’t remember the last time I lost to a non-staff ele. So I’ll stick with my original premise: staff eles can beat non-staff eles just fine.
if u can record it, pretty pls. if not then nvm
personally i would love to see a staff ele killing s/d , s/f eles
. In one vid you slipped? Said somthing about off-axis misses during a tight linear circle straffe?Does this mean getting evades of sorts when you don’t actually evade?