Guild Wars 2

he wants to transport enemys into keeps i guess

of all these, i would only accept the cripple pulse on earth 2

the others seem too strong~

one cannot go wrong as asura.

Just a dueling vid i felt worth sharing

Was gonna go for both of em at once, but the warrior was just jumping around, so I went for a friendly approach after the defeat of the ele, and we ended up dueling several times~

I do realise i did terrible not beeing able to dodge the lb5 of the war 2 times in a row, but i guess i did pretty well against the ele ~

http://youtu.be/M2LveVAnG7c?list=PLV8Lt3RuAw1McL8HSHz5BLmmGEp5KlH59

enjoy ~

Khenzy.9348:

I went slightly ahead of you Dondagora:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Screencap-of-all-Revenant-skills/first#post4815153

To summarize:

-No vigor
-No evade skills
-No instant teleport skills
-No swiftness or 25% speed increase
-No invulnerability skills
-Little to no Protection or Regeneration boon uptime
-No stealth
-No non-target leap skills (besides Unyielding Anguish which seems more situational and more of a peel, a very strong one at that)
-Very little condi removal
-Lack of stun breakers

Out of combat field mobility or combat disengage is little to none.
If they don’t get to use Unyielding Anguish for melee attackers (or use it that often), they seem great focus targets!
UA seems ridiculously strong btw!

But as I said in the post I linked, we have yet to see other Legends and weapons!

quote from this post : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Revenant-Weaknesses/first#post4816601

revenant doesnt look that op to me…

ofc we still gotta see 2 more legends ( i think its gonna be 2 more) and few weapons
but from the looks of it, revenant is gonna have lots and lots of weaknesses

Orpheal.8263:

People forget, that alot of these weakneses can be circumvented with Sigils and Runes..

So listing something like…no permanent 25% speed boost is ridiculous, when all you have to do is using the right rune set for example to get permanent 25% running speed.
And then theres 2 trait lines still missing, under whioch alot of the thigns could be put under, that are listed here.

Protection and Regeneration can be also circumvented with Runes if you prefer that over running fast, which isn’t needed anyway, when you play in a group that can provide aoe swiftness, like running in a WvW zerg where you basically have permanently swiftness and other buffs from the permanent aoe buffs everyone around you is using …

The rev doesn’t need condi removal alot, therefore is the Mallyx Stance, that makes you more powerful and receive heals so more conditions are on you…

Due to the heavy condition meta in GW2, having always mallyx with you is imo pretty much a must.

strip the resistance, whats left? mallyx killing himself

if u use runes for , for example the 25% boost, u r missing out on other stats other proffessions can get cause they dont use the 25% run boost

well, ofc its missing 2 traitlines, at least 2 legends, and few weapons still, but looking at its current state, there are lots of weaknesses

Levetty.1279:

StickerHappy.8052:

Levetty.1279:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Levetty.1279:

Anet needs to stop trying to make interrupt builds a thing, its not going to become a thing.

If you’re having trouble with interrupt builds it’s because you’re bad at it, not that the interrupt build/gameplay is bad in itself. You’ve just confused the two.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Defiance

PVE is braindead as it is, I do not see the problem making Interrupt mesmers a thing, PVP and WvW is where the skill art of interrupting shines not PVE.

And while you are wasting time trying to interrupt people a Celestial ele has come in killed everybody in the area including allies and then ran off to go capture the other two points.

but ele needs time to build up his dmg… might rotations…

Khenzy.9348:

I went slightly ahead of you Dondagora:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Screencap-of-all-Revenant-skills/first#post4815153

To summarize:

-No vigor
-No evade skills
-No instant teleport skills
-No swiftness or 25% speed increase
-No invulnerability skills
-Little to no Protection or Regeneration boon uptime
-No stealth
-No non-target leap skills (besides Unyielding Anguish which seems more situational and more of a peel, a very strong one at that)
-Very little condi removal
-Lack of stun breakers

Out of combat field mobility or combat disengage is little to none.
If they don’t get to use Unyielding Anguish for melee attackers (or use it that often), they seem great focus targets!
UA seems ridiculously strong btw!

But as I said in the post I linked, we have yet to see other Legends and weapons!

quote from this post : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Revenant-Weaknesses/first#post4816601

revenant doesnt look that op to me…

we will wait and see for 2 more traitlines, other legends and weapons

mallyx is way too risky to play with, and i would – and will probably hate fighting necros as revenant..

as for the tanky legend, the taunt uses half ur energy bar, but its pretty strong, and a nice way to set up a dmg spike

u use ur taunt skill , swap legend to get energy back, then u got 3 s to do whatever u want ! unless enemy stunbreaks~

also , the stability change is kind of like a buff to necro i guess? terrormancer.

Argon.1563:

I think its time to retire.

Mallyx’s healing skill is literally a carbon copy of Consume Conditions, with the added bonus that it grants Resistance. I didn’t get to see all of the utility skills, but I feel like it could potentially wreck this profession if they don’t significantly change things in HoT.

it doesnt clean the condis, and the resistance is 2 s

if i manage a proper 6+ clone summon.

if i manage that, i dont even care about dieing anymore

http://youtu.be/VqW9fvp8ztY

wich proffession r u playing

and there is a reason why thieves r one of best, if not best wvw roamers.

every proffession has strong and weak points.

the might was universal and affects every proffession in every game mode

wow we r alrdy making threads about not having new bugs on patch days

i think we will get glamourlike skills, and our f1-4 skills r gonna be there to detonate those ‘glamours’

Suburbian.1023:

So what can it be?

we barely know anything about the proffession, so getting that answer wont be possible yet

Suburbian.1023:

I know this is way ahead of it’s time, but will there be a specialization for Revenant? Like the example you gave of a ranger becoming a druid?

there should be one for sure!

we r gonna be able to summon the legends of our hero we need but dont deserve

TYBALT I SUMMON THEEE

Justin ODell.9517:

Macmoarning.3208:

Grow up, you read one line and immediately came to a conclusion. I have two accounts, I didn’t know that was important from which one I post my opinion

Actually he reached to conclusion : you have another acount OR you’re a liar. You linked it.

Can we calm this down. I was not trying to call out rainbow.4695.

We’re actually doing a decent job matching by party size, so Iwas curious if their experience could be explained by a known issue, or if it was something new.

oh thats the reason when i had a full premade team last night we only faced full premades guild like 5-10 matches in a row, thx for the info!

not sure if joking, even if, ppl r gonna get the wrong idea

warrior is on top in every game mode, so the few nerfs were necessary, the only rly heavy nerf altho was the adrenaline one, they shoulda make the adrenaline drain after combat drain after 10 or 15 s, not right away

i like the new staff skill showed in the vid, using vines to atk.. oh wait, what? rangers confirmed mordrems!

Lettuce.2945:

Black Frog.9274:

Lettuce.2945:

Stopped reading after “zerg does the work for me” part.

I guess I can understand how mass cast swiftness and horn boons could evade your understanding. It totally makes more sense to extend the 60 secs of swiftness that never dissipates with some more runes. It’s probably better you don’t post. I’m sure you’ve got more forum warrior-ing and theory crafting to do; winning interwebz arguments is srs bizness.

So where’s that awesome P/P build you’ve developed?

Forum warring? I’m not the one K-Training and going “I know more than you on this specific subject”. And a good p/p build? Just run either SA d/p and p/p or panic strikes with smokescreen, shadow step, and refuge. Not that hard. Gear is up to you. As for me being a forum warrior, I lol’ed. I do plenty of outnumbered fights every day in wvw, unlike you, K-Training. Don’t believe me? Video evidence says it all.

Here’s a 3 v 15+.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDxwyJc_1jg

2 v 8+ with hard razzing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3jcrHSDdPQ

I’m Outta Nowhere in the vids. Enjoy. Very different from that mindless K training of yours, no?

but where do u use p/p, and why is that guy clicking his skills, tell him to stop that

the healskill is just a copy of thief one isnt it?

its the murasat i believe

Kraljevo.2801:

Wyrden.4713:

Kraljevo.2801:

Thank god no. Although it would be nice to have a new lvl cap in pvp. I hate the dragon finisher. :’(

u can /rank [and a number u want 1-80 to have the finisher u wanna use]

example : /rank 60

for the shark finisher

Reading comprehension?

oh sry, thought u hate the dragon finisher when u use /rank command, i was just telling a way to use lower rank finishers w the /rank command.

my bad if u didnt mean that

Kraljevo.2801:

Thank god no. Although it would be nice to have a new lvl cap in pvp. I hate the dragon finisher. :’(

u can /rank [and a number u want 1-80 to have the finisher u wanna use]

example : /rank 60

for the shark finisher

i actually for the first time liked trah there…

BONE WALLS ! UTILITY SKILL ! (the walls marjory can summon)

are proffessions gonna get more than 1 specialisation choosable? if not it would just be like, not really a specilaisation , but just adding more skills to one proffession n stuff

plot twist, shield is an insanely offensive weap(on mesmer)

Smirgel.9460:

Obviously I’m talking about mesmer build diversity here. Power shatter has been the only viable tPvP build pretty much since launch. So, what would bring other builds in play in high tier tournaments? My take on this is (like it is pretty much the case with all professions, ranger aside) that our profession specific trait line gives too much utility and damage compared to other traitlines. Greatly reduced shatter cooldowns, reduced illusion cooldowns, great synergy with other traits in other traitlines and even more damage.

My own suggestion is to reduce the base cooldown of shatters, but nerf the bonus recharge rate of the Illusions trait line from 5%/pt to 3%/pt (max 30%->18%). Base shatter cooldowns would be reduced as follows:

Mind Wrack 15 -> 12
Cry of Frustration 30 -> 20
Diversion 45 -> 35
Distortion 60 -> 50

This change would bring lockdown and shatter builds closer in terms of the superior utility that shatters bring. Maybe something else needs to be done, like a flat out buff to lockdown? Maybe increase base hp of phantasms so they dont die in 2 seconds to Aoe/cleave? IMO phantasms would still need a redesign to really be useful in tPvP. Relying too much on AI is just never a good thing. What do you think?

i am all for nerfing illusion dmg and buffing personal dmg tbh, ofc many ppl may disagree w me etc

i rly love mesmer, just hate relying on ai a lot

the one awesome change to it would be to either remove the icd, or reduce icd to like 0.5? seconds

guys, u r all happy about the buffs, me too, but..

what r we gonna do w all the new bugs?

d/p thief + staff/gs mesmer , rly gotta love coordinated bursts

lordkrall.7241:

Paying attention to the match tells you everything you need to know as to why you lost.

neat vid , was pretty enjoyable

Zelyhn Lekovitch.2867:

Purple Miku.7032:

Zelyhn Lekovitch.2867:

True elementalists use D/F.

Those who use other builds are obviously picking content that is too easy for them to face, therefore they are not worthy of the knowledge of the elements!

I used to primarily use D/F but since the burning speed nerf it’s just not worth it anymore imo. I rarely find myself using it because the difference in DPS from staff is extremely noticeable. :/

Yeah but I forgive you because you have proven to be a worthy D/F believer. I grant you your freedom of faith, for now.

It used to be really awesome because if you performed the rotation correctly against a wall or against a large target you could deal as much as a basic staff rotation (without MS that is). But I still have hop! If one day mobs move … you’ll see

ppl are gonna complain about not beeing able to do damage w staff if stuff starts moving and ppl randomly ccing enemy b4 u use icebow 5 (defiance n stuff)

i guarantee that

Lazze.9870:

Dadnir.5038:

As for dungeon, I thought it was well known that they are oowned by the holy trinity guardian/warrior/Elementalist. Every other class (sadly) are optional..

If you’re only running war, ele and guardian you’re doing it wrong.

Dadnir.5038:

NB: cornering, except maybe for AC run, is still the best way to ease some fight mechanics like SE Alfa aoe. FGS was just usefull to hide player that don’t know how and when they have to dodge.

I specifically said against bosses when the only benefit was the fact that you were using the FGS. There are several bosses where cornering is beyond useless, and could potensially hurt the party’s dps if you’re running with thieves and rangers who both benefit from flanking.

Dadnir.5038:

- Ingeneer is a jake of all trade but sligthly harder to play that can fullfill an ele spot or a thief spot

Vuln.

Dadnir.5038:

- Rangers add a bit more dps but have it’s own issue (for example, newbie have a hard time controling their pet and even a hard time restraining themselve to not overusing LB#4)

These are all player problems, not class problems.

Dadnir.5038:

- Thieves grant a descent dps and easy trash mob skip (not to say that they can perma blind).

Decent!? The class is at the top, with the ele.

thieves r at top single target dmg, eles got 2nd highest single target dmg

eles got highest AoE dmg

someone once sent me 20 g for running frostspotter in pve..

frostspotter makes gold confirmed

Mystogan.4157:

dang thanks i was looking for a 3 kit on youtube. as for turret i am jsta noob atm with engi and haent learned to use him correctly. what is the delay for the combo?if you reactivate you heal there is a short delay correct? and the tool belt skill is instant?

exactly

for beginners, when u r at low health, double tap ur heal instantly, dont detonate right away:

u first get 2-3k hp, when putting down turret, ofc u double tapped, now u gotta wait 1-2 s, then u get another 2-3 k hp, now u detonate, so after the 2nd healproc, if u pay attention

the water field duration is 2-3 seconds on turret, and 1 s on tool belt

Lert.6287:

Wyrden.4713:

Lert.6287:

Rozbuska.5263:

Problem of Fumigate is it dont clean condis from you. Like no other classes have simillar self punishing barriers like engi (Overcharged Shot and so on).

Really cool change can be if Fumigate will work as eles Cleansing Wave (I hope its right skill name:-P) where you can be also affected by that spray when you runing forward while casting skill.

How about Save yourselves or Corrupt Boon, Epidemic, any Quickness (beside mesmer’s elite) skills?

comparing 1by1 skills is like.. well.. that doesnt work at all. u gotta see professions as a whole.

i tell ya smth: toss elixir s! , elixir s!, gear block! static shield! chain all those and the enemy cant even properly hit u for 12-15s !

Read carefully what people write. Rozbuska said there’s no self punishing skills on other proffessions than engi and I pointed out there, in fact, are.

ops sorry

Lert.6287:

Rozbuska.5263:

Problem of Fumigate is it dont clean condis from you. Like no other classes have simillar self punishing barriers like engi (Overcharged Shot and so on).

Really cool change can be if Fumigate will work as eles Cleansing Wave (I hope its right skill name:-P) where you can be also affected by that spray when you runing forward while casting skill.

How about Save yourselves or Corrupt Boon, Epidemic, any Quickness (beside mesmer’s elite) skills?

comparing 1by1 skills is like.. well.. that doesnt work at all. u gotta see professions as a whole.

i tell ya smth: toss elixir s! , elixir s!, gear block! static shield! chain all those and the enemy cant even properly hit u for 12-15s !

guardian torch 5 doesnt clean condis from himself either .. :o

Lupanic.6502:

I can not hear the argument that every class need some weaknesses.

Look at the meta builds. Warrior has 43 condi removals per minute without using sigils on shoutwarrior. This build is absoult playable

Ele has without any change to have a good condition removal 19 per minute. If you go for contional removal you can go up to 45 per minute and still 25 stacks of might and all other stuff.

Condition ranger has 19 + dodge removes poison and blindness (so lets say 25). If you take 3 survival skills you can have 30 condition removals.

All builds are absolut meta builds

Look at the engi. The engi has 10 per minute. (healing turret has a cooldown 15 – 20 and if you place and pick it up it takes too long to have it more than 4 times per minute).

Even if you try to create a condition removal build with only elixirs and you have 26 condition removals per minute. And this build with 5 elixirs is not playable not even in hotjoin.

So I guess a buff to EG would be more than fair.

what if i tell u, that its not all about condition removal? u r like, focusing on the condition removal of proffessions only.

and mesmer has no condi removal at all w its meta build! suprise !

either way. if u want to have more condi removal, u need to make sacrifices, hope anet nerfs the cele amlet, or u have to adapt. , u r not the center of the world

(i play engi and mesma mainly(i play everything, but those 2 the last few weeks mainly), so its not a hate against engis of another proffession)

Lupanic.6502:

Wyrden.4713:

Lupanic.6502:

Lert.6287:

Small buff? That’s not small buff at all. On top of that Elixir Gun is on pretty good place right now, so that would be totally unreasonable.

@Lupanic – you can’t be serious. 5 condis cleansed/12 sec. (+ 1/20sec from Super Elixir, + 1/15sec from Transmute, + 2/15 or 20sec from Healing Turret). That would be crazy.

Changes to Kits are not really needed – especially buffs.

12 sec cooldown would be crazy. But you could change it that way that it removes 1 condi at Start and 1 at the end with a cooldown if 20 sec. Engi needs condi removal

every proffession has and needs some weaknesses, for the sake of balance, and not getting hit , aka avoiding getting hit by conditions works too.

or rely on ur teammates, its not a solo game after all.

Every profession? Looking at warrior, ele, guard and even ranger. Next to Mesmer engi can’t have condi removal Mike other classes. Even with elixir c and the traut you are far behind

ele is rly heavily boon reliant, mesmers or necros got it easy against em, ranger? if condi i do have to agree they r sturdy, but their dmg is low if ur enemy knows what to dodge, power rangers die in a single hit anyway, warrior wich spec?, guard if medi, they r good in 1v1 ya, but terribad in teamfights, bunker guards r like any other bunker, it takes time to kill em, but u get em, they dont do any dmg to u in return tho.

Lupanic.6502:

Lert.6287:

Small buff? That’s not small buff at all. On top of that Elixir Gun is on pretty good place right now, so that would be totally unreasonable.

@Lupanic – you can’t be serious. 5 condis cleansed/12 sec. (+ 1/20sec from Super Elixir, + 1/15sec from Transmute, + 2/15 or 20sec from Healing Turret). That would be crazy.

Changes to Kits are not really needed – especially buffs.

12 sec cooldown would be crazy. But you could change it that way that it removes 1 condi at Start and 1 at the end with a cooldown if 20 sec. Engi needs condi removal

every proffession has and needs some weaknesses, for the sake of balance, and not getting hit , aka avoiding getting hit by conditions works too.

or rely on ur teammates, its not a solo game after all.

Novuake.2691:

Wolfar.6508:

Novuake.2691:

Rannulf.9417:

I’m halfway gearing my full zerker engie when it hit me, is full assassin engie viable in wvw or zerker?

I do not see why you would WANT to build full glass on an Engi.

Why :

Might is SOOO easy to get on them when you have the sustain to build it.
They do not have sustained DPS. More burst. Other than Bomb1 and Nade1, which isn’t ideal with full zerk gear as its ground targeting.
SO much healing skills that will help a LOT to get SOMETHING that sinargizes well with it, Toughness/Healing power.

So just wondering how you plan to survive?
Unless you plan on Zerging mostly, in which case the question is pointless as ANY DPS build will work in a Zerg.

If you run a Static Discharge setup you got a very high amount of burst without really missing out on utility that much. It’s (still) a very effective setup in WvW and I have had great succes with it.

Pretty sure you run something to keep you alive instead of Full Zerker/Assassin?

a lot of engis (not only engis) run full glass in wvw (roaming) and have great sucess w it, u use active defence to survive (dodges, blocks, cc, etc) , or some builds (check that boom montages in ytb) kill enemy b4 they can kill u

edit: here http://youtu.be/qB5B3UEVMmM

that would be too strong on such a low cooldown

it alrdy cleans 5 condis on 5 allys (potentially yea), has low cd, is nice to proc on hit/crit stuff, its on eg, wich overall is an awesome kit to begin with

sirjosh.9561:

Zention.1849:

Okay first things first. It all depends of the fact – which legendaries / ascended weapons-gear are you willing to craft or looking forward to crafting.
You will need Weapon smith on 400 and Chef on 400 for crafting Incinerator. Weapon smith on 500 to craft an ascended weapon.
Artificer covers all other Weapons usable by your class – keep that in mind.

Chef will be easier and is – as far as i can recall – the cheapest crafting discipline to level.

Note: Tailoring getting up to 500 is rather expensive same goes for Artificer.
Crafting Ascended light armor will cost you hundreds of gold (not if you’re grinding your matts of course – but still it’s pretty expensive)

So weaponsmith for daggers + chef is the way to go?
Incinerator looks godly.

artificer if u like staff focus scepter

weaponsmith for daggers

tailor: dont bother unless u want either celestial gears, or ascended light gears (asc armour is only needed in fractals, if u dont go fractals, dont bother w em)

chef: most of the stuff u usually use for food is mostly cheaper just on the tp

jeweler, ascended trinkets r rly easy to get so i never bothered w those

u should get ascended weapons tho, those boost ur dmg greatly , armour doesnt.

how about we just let it be as it is , and dont change anything :O

Ambrecombe.4398:

Crius.5487:

Don’t feel like any weapons which the warrior can’t already use that are in game would actually fit with the warrior profession.

For future weapons that don’t already exist in game, perhaps a two-hand axe and a polearm.

I can’t agree with you on this.

In the game some Iron Legionaires are wearing a heavy armour set with a pistol&shield combo and some of the Blacklion guards use a pistol&warhorn combo to defend themself from range while buffing allies with their warhorn.

To me the next weapon that would probably fit best for a Warrior has to be a Pistol M/h because some NPCs rely on those tactics and use abilities similar to the Warrior. Also Warriors can use a Rifle, so a Pistol is something they could easely be proficient at since both types of weapons work in similar ways.

o yea, what the npcs r doing..

mesmers spamming feedback and timewarp, necros wielding gs and creating bone bridges and walls , hybrid classes everywhere

u shouldnt use npc as referance

but yea, i could see pistol working for war