Guild Wars 2

Yea the stab changes I could live with, its the pirate shipping that resulted from the stab nerfs that really drastically altered wvw in such a negative way that frustrates me. Its made using frontline for me an unfun experience and basically forces you to play a full tanky build and even then its like sometimes you can barely go a few seconds before having to back and heal up because of so much cc’s, aoe bombs, and condi spam.

yea, just try to have fun and not worry about grinding ppt or putting in overtime or anything like that to worry about dropping.

Ororo.5097:

One simple question :
will the current MU (oct. 16th – oct. 22nd) count in the Glicko ratings update of next Saturday ?

No, this weeks matchup does not affect the glicko ratings, next weeks matchup (10/24 and after) will however, see the first post in the thread for more info.

The meta will of course change, this is not a regular balance change that shifts the meta every couple months, this is a game changing expansion thats coming this week. But until we know whats actually being released with each profession we wont know what will be useful in wvw. Also more experience with the new map with also affect the meta as well especially in terms of roaming/havok.

Correct, in terms of glicko this week technically will not change anything because wvw will end early and the reset will be changed to a new time, the next matchup however will affect glicko, we will be playing on the new map, and have the new reset time. This is basically a do whatever you want week.

10/16-10/22 match does not affect glicko

10/24 and after does affect glicko

Lord Kuru.3685:

X T D.6458:

Trajan.4953:

OK, in light of the Xpac and the obvious need to react and hotfix all the inevitable bugs, crashes, exploits etc that come with any MMO’s expansion, if A-Net says they need the time to ensure a smooth sailing ship I will take that on good faith.

An Expansion is a huge undertaking and all game modes will suffer not just ours. We have to support the company as much as possible to ensure all the bricks fall into place, and I do.

Having said that, what is a reasonable time frame to, at least, re-visit the topic of returning Reset to its accustomed place?

Personally speaking, I think 1-2months would probably be enough time for things to settle into place, considering that the halloween event is going to be running the same time as the expansion, kind of seems like they doubled their workload there. I am hoping it goes back to friday, I can understand the reasons to change it to sat…just wish they communicated it better in the first place.

You cannot seriously believe this was originally intended as a temporary thing, that they just “forgot” to mention it in the OP?

And do you really think they’re going to revisit this in the future once the change has already happened? I doubt it.

I can just hope so, I cant change what they do, only voice my opinion. I just want to have fun with my guild, and not see good people turned away by bad changes.

GrandMechantLoup.8201:

Please ANET have you no plan for RNG issue in ladder system?

People are bored to have boring MU even if they play/win/lose or not every week.
“Up and down” system it would be give power to players and more fun.

ps : sorry for my bad english.

They said they want to have more wvw seasons on a regular basis after expac launches. Aside from that I doubt it, they tried once to have a larger deviation in matchup variations, the result was lopsided matchups

link here-
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/WvW-Invitational-Statement-from-John-Corpening-game-director-for-World-vs-World/first

Trajan.4953:

OK, in light of the Xpac and the obvious need to react and hotfix all the inevitable bugs, crashes, exploits etc that come with any MMO’s expansion, if A-Net says they need the time to ensure a smooth sailing ship I will take that on good faith.

An Expansion is a huge undertaking and all game modes will suffer not just ours. We have to support the company as much as possible to ensure all the bricks fall into place, and I do.

Having said that, what is a reasonable time frame to, at least, re-visit the topic of returning Reset to its accustomed place?

Personally speaking, I think 1-2months would probably be enough time for things to settle into place, considering that the halloween event is going to be running the same time as the expansion, kind of seems like they doubled their workload there. I am hoping it goes back to friday, I can understand the reasons to change it to sat…just wish they communicated it better in the first place.

Nedus.6952:

Tyler Bearce.3427:

Thanks for the report. Fixed in the HoT release.

And i shall thank you for caring about something that indubitably can result unbalanced for standard WvW mechanics.

Thanks for checking it and thanks for the answer.

Passero ~

Thank you SO MUCH for making this public so it can be fixed, and Thank you for fixing it! I’ve seen this exploited so many times and personally detest siege humping, so the less the better. So sick and tired of attacking keeps with 30 acs and everything else inside. I always wondered how people were able to get so much siege in one area when there was supposed to be this siege area limit, I suspect there are other ways as well.

I will admit my tone in my posts was unfortunately harsh, I think a lot of people might feel that way. But Anet it seems many times this kind of backlash can be avoided by better communication. The initial post was abysmal and terribly insulting. There was no explanation given for such massive schedule altering changes (among other things), no feedback asked for. It was simply we are doing this and that and we don’t care whether or not you like it, this is how its going to be. And sadly this is an attitude we have become accustomed to, when we need help, we are met by silence and locked threads. When we pitch popular ideas it seems you guys choose the exact opposite path. When you come out and display this perception of how you would rather use metrics and numbers to make changes and implement features rather then firsthand experience, you leave us scratching our heads in total confusion and of course will make people angry.

If you would have just come out and said….well hey guys because of technical reasons we need to move the reset back to Saturday night so we can better monitor issues that might arise with the expansions release, but after some time we will see if reset can be moved back…this backlash and hostility would not have occured, people would have been a lot more understanding.

This change is so unpopular with so many because it reinforces this longstanding perception that you dont care about your own gamemode and the players that love it. It essentially cuts the weekend gaming for many players, even worse for ocx/sea players who nobody wants to see stop playing. Will basically increase reset queues because instead of spreading forces through the weekend, everyones going to be crammed into sat night. It makes Friday and most of sat mostly meaningless as the last day before reset usually is. And a variety of other reasons already covered in the hundreds of posts here. Thats why we are angry, but I believe proper communication on your part would have gone a long way to prevent it.

We put in tons of hours in wvw, it is a competitive mode, emotions run high. We do it not just for fun but because we want to be with friends & guildies when we can. Nobody likes to be told how or when to play. Something to think about.

briggah.7910:

DeWolfe.2174:

briggah.7910:

::throws self on floor::

::cries like a little baby::

I just imitated pretty much everyone that posted here..

:D

And then makes 5 more posts on the subject in an hour. The PvF is weak in this one.

Hard to PvF here since I always get points added onto my account.. Least I don’t really care what day reset is seeing as its just another day.. Funny that so many claim they will not play anymore since this change.. LOL grow up people.

If you don’t care when reset is which is the dominant topic driving this thread, then why are you posting on this thread, are you just here to insult and ridicule people which seems to be your intent going by your other posts? Do you find this to be anymore productive then what you personally don’t find tasteful in other peoples posts?

Dream In A Dream.7213:

Great change. Reset time is irrelevant. Though Tue reset at say 7pm might be the best.

If you think reset time is irrelevant, then why do you think its a great change? Contradiction aside, keeping it friday night should be fine to you since the time is “irrelevant”

PariahX.6970:

X T D.6458:

Excuse me, first of all dont start insulting us then ask us to “chill” acting all righteous. Your condescending and hypocritical attitude, not to mention total ignorance of the topic does not help the situation but yet you insist on insulting us as if its wrong for us to argue against what we see as a terribly BAD change. Just because there is a change doesnt mean its good, are we just supposed to accept everything and stay silent? What if that change totally screws up your gaming weekend? Do you like being told how and when to play? Do you like not being able to play with your guild? Do you like having these idiotic decisions forced on you with no input, reasons given initially, and constant silence?

Yikes, if that is what you got out of what I wrote then I failed miserably to make my point, which was mostly just looking for ways to make lemonade for those less happy with the change. Please by all means, never stop arguing for what you think is right but I’ve seen exactly how far that gets us around here and just thought there might be some better ways to express dissatisfaction while also maybe looking for silver linings so the disappointment isn’t so bitter when things don’t go the way you hoped. Regardless of what is right or wrong or better, tantrums should never produce results but that is a deeper discussion for another forum.

I would personally appreciate it more if people didnt come on here to tell others how to act, and stick on topic instead of trying to derail it because of distaste for someones perceived tone. With that said, I appreciate all sides of a debate, I like to listen and learn from all sides. But when your used to as a community being ignored and neglected by anet then suddenly being forced to accept idiotic poorly thought out and rather lazy changes, well many of us will be angry. Yet when we actually need them to fix game breaking issues, nothing but silence.

PariahX.6970:

Jeeze people . . . I think my face just melted off trying to read all these venomous comments. Can’t you all just chill out a bit and try to have a reasonable discussion about the issue? The time change to Saturday afternoon was actually a response to a lot of the previous crying trying to find a way to get more weekend time out of the deal so maybe if we better presented our concerns instead of knee-jerk reactions we could figure out what we actually really want out of our WvW reset experience.

First I have a serious question for the more hardcore WvW’ers because I will admit to being completely ignorant on the importance of playing right at reset. Without orbs I fail to see why having queues at reset is a desirable thing. Is it really that important and why exactly?

I haven’t been able to be on for a reset in over two years and it has not personally affected my enjoyment of WvW as a casual player. I usually show up 3 to 5 hours after reset and that would not likely change with the reset time being changed to 11am PST as I would get some afternoon WvW time most Saturdays.

Now I understand that reset time is made exciting by the sheer numbers of people sharing particular goals at that particular moment but is there any reason that cannot be replicated at a different time outside of the reset experience?

Why do guild WvW raids have to happen at reset? Is not just as fun to play and push with your guildies and realm mates at whatever time the most of them happen to be on? Wont that be a different time for different worlds?

Wouldn’t having this earlier reset time actually make more for a slow burn WvW experience and maybe even increase the chances of the smaller more organized teams taking down a more populous one? Remember those good old alarm clock relic raids in DAoC? Wouldn’t it also make for more ppt swings as time zone populations develop throughout a much longer reset? So instead of all the excitement in the first 5 hours it actually makes the first 18hrs of the reset fun to play for more people regardless of if they are there at the start?

Aren’t all the issues centered around only a few hours of reset time being the most enjoyable for some really just a symptom of a much great problem about how match-ups are scored and shouldn’t we hoping ANET will be focused on those instead of trying to find the perfect hour of the day to reset WvW?

Likely discussions like these need to happen outside of this thread since we are too busy hating change here but they are things to think about. It does sound like the choices are pretty clear, you can have reset on Saturday evening or Saturday afternoon. If Friday is off the table entirely, the important question to ask ANET is if any other day is possible or to try and find an alternative time on Saturday that will please a bigger majority.

Considering ANET has only recently figured out how to measure world populations caps with active WvW players I understand the skepticism of their use of metrics to make decisions like these so I agree with those asking for more details on how they arrived at this being the optimal time. I also agree with those who have floated Thursday night as a possible alternative if we are going to continue with week long match-ups for the foreseeable future but I would prefer to get it down to at least 2 different match-up in a week if not three. We just have to stop caring about reset getting messed by patches so kitten much since that is what got us into this mess in the first place. ><

Excuse me, first of all dont start insulting us then ask us to “chill” acting all righteous. Your condescending and hypocritical attitude, not to mention total ignorance of the topic does not help the situation but yet you insist on insulting us as if its wrong for us to argue against what we see as a terribly BAD change. Just because there is a change doesnt mean its good, are we just supposed to accept everything and stay silent? What if that change totally screws up your gaming weekend? Do you like being told how and when to play? Do you like not being able to play with your guild? Do you like having these idiotic decisions forced on you with no input, reasons given initially, and constant silence?

Just because you dont care about reset, does not mean nobody else should. Dont tell other people how they should play or view the game. Reset is about the wvw community, we gather together, we raid, we have fun. But more then that its about starting fresh and getting a headstart for our servers. Moving it to a time that splits our weekend gaming in half by making the first half meaningless, or moving the time to so early in the day where so many cant organize and coordinate properly, well this is a slap in the face to everyone to loves wvw. Anet didnt make wvw great, the players did.

Whats really disturbing is they find “guild claiming” to be an exciting rush…cuz clicking on an npc and then that other click….overwhelming….

Knighthonor.4061:

can we get WvW Achievement in EoTM?

Yes some of the wvw achievements can be progressed in eotm…ranks, sentries, towers, keeps, kills etc w/e titles are associated with them. Eotm also has its own seperate achievement panel

DeWolfe.2174:

Is it me or does this new time change seem like a passive aggressive, “Oh yeah well take this!” from the Dev’s????

Lol, no its not just you

Relying on metrics rather then firsthand experience, this is why so many consider them clueless

The last thing wvw needs is to lose OCX/SEA players, every server wants them, why are you trying to alienate them and drive them away?

Well boy what a coincidence all this bad news salv nerf, bad wvw “ideas” a week before hot hits gee I wonder why now? Maybe its a well we dont care now you paid for it already attitude it seems to me gg EAnet.

Fryggenbart.3907:

Can you please all speak in a civilized tone and try to tone down your rage mode?
Even I as a player just roll my eyes and ignore every post that sounds like it’s written by someone who’s just rageing.

Please, try to be productive and find a solution and offer alternatives to satisfy even the SEA players.

We have a right to be angry about this idiocy. Nobody wants to be told how or when to play and have their weekend gaming ruined. Or have your gaming schedule completely wrecked now because of this terrible idea.

Anet do you not know what reset means to servers? Its not just a rolling over for the week. Its when servers/guilds etc form up with excitement to start up a new match, its when the most people participate in wvw, its when there is the most action in wvw. Dont you think you should actually learn something about it and the community instead of just relying on numbers/metrics to implement ridiculously bad ideas? Seriously the cluelessness is off the charts.

Very skilled guild, Jarvin knows his stuff, we miss you guys

sasukeboy.8492:

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Over 200 posts
Almost 16k views

Still no reply from anet, pathetic absolutely pathetic, is this what a forum is for? Anet stop with this ridiculous attitude of telling us how and when to play this game. I dont give a crap about pvp, fractals or raids I want to have wvw fights on a map of my choosing.

24hrs old is the post, many views many replies, but no answer from any dev.
If u change a reset day with a reason, let us know at least what the reason is.
Now it’s like guys we change the reset, have fun with it.
If there is no reason to change it, why the hell u change it then?

Thats what angers me the most, they are always silent on these stupid decisions, if they just come out and say well this is just a temporary thing for a week or 2 because of the expac release, well then its np. To make a sudden change like this with no input, or reason given, or even reply to such unanimous negative feedback. It really shows how little they think of their own gamemode and this playerbase.

Over 200 posts
Almost 16k views

Still no reply from anet, pathetic absolutely pathetic, is this what a forum is for? Anet stop with this ridiculous attitude of telling us how and when to play this game. I dont give a crap about pvp, fractals or raids I want to have wvw fights on a map of my choosing.

This is not moving it “slightly” this makes friday and most of saturday meaningless splitting the weekend in half.

Why, for the love of god why anet???

It’s bad enough your forcing this stupid new map on us and now fridays are going to be meaningless as the day before resets usually are, most of saturday is going to be spent waiting for reset. Why are you splitting our weekend in half? Who came up with this stupid idea???

Using the just convert/remove the boons argument is irrelevant, not every profession has this kind of skill access. Allowing the stacking of boons that are to powerful to a permanent extent pose an essential and potentially game breaking problem. And could potentially undermine all the hard work they are putting into all the new content.

I meant rework them quickness should never be allowed to be maintained permanently, when you can get over a minute of it, its obvious the stack limit needs to be lowered

Put a stack limit on buffs, not a difficult or unheard of solution, hell even swiftness is capped. If they cant understand why perma quickness is a problem they need to be thrown out of the balancing dept.

good vid, well done

Our latest video compilation courtesy of Luna and Moses Enjoy!

First off, don’t craft anything for a new class/spec, wait until its actually released because much of it is subject to change until release, remember beta testing is done for a reason. There will be many changes to come for all the specs so I would advise against rushing into anything.

Toughness helps reduce power based damage, conditions ignore armor which means vitality helps with sustaining condition damage. Its also important to setup gear based on your play style. Roamers and zergers generally don’t build the same way.

Keep in mind most all skills have an aoe cap of 5 players. Having a druid in party might make it easier then having to rely on eles dropping waters then waiting for blasts etc. And from what I’ve heard about druids their healing is pretty good even w/o investment in healing power. Again its all subject to balance changes. Generally speaking you don’t want to run a full heal/tanky build unless your front line or commanding, you need to be able do dish out some damage so consider a more balanced stat combo if you want to run a support build.

It not just for those that were tagged up, I cant login to any toon either and none had a tag up

It not just for those that were tagged up, I cant login to any toon either and none had a tag up

Ive had this problem in the past, exactly as you described but with gw1 several years ago. The problem was my graphics card, more specifically the fans stopped working causing overheating and causing my computer to shutdown constantly while playing. A new graphics card fixed the problem. Consider swapping it out if you have one around to see if your graphics card is causing the issue.

I can now quit the living story episodes, unfortunately they pop right back up tracker, mail and all when relogging. Please fix…

There is a bug with the mail system, I cannot reply to any mail, it sends it to me instead of the intended recipient. All sent mail is being sent back to me.

Would be hard to believe a hundred or so people attacking one target cant swap the damage from that main icebow skill lolz

Senario.2038:

X T D.6458:

ice bow and pu nerf been needed for long time stop whining, pu nerf doesnt go far enough imo though

“stop whining” isn’t a legitimate argument, that is literally like telling somebody to shut up without giving reasoning. If anything telling the people who are legitimately concerned about balance being skewed that they are “whining” and they must be a fan of “insert class that got nerfed here” is definitely setting up a strawman about the people who are concerned.

What people are dissatisfied with is that “Balance” is based off a gamemode which is a small part of the game not counting all the players who go in just for dailies/reward tracks with friends.

Yes because nothing in this game is every centered around pve right? please….

ice bow and pu nerf been needed for long time stop whining, pu nerf doesnt go far enough imo though

Welcome back Mini, havent lost that modesty I see. T2 has changed a lot recently, if your not currently in a t2 server and looking to transfer your only choices atm are SoS and FA which are both rebuilding. SoS would probably be a better bet for you since they could probably use more NA time experienced commanders. T3 is the new gvg scene. Good luck.

Chuck Zitto.2367:

I am having more of a problem with the server pop calculations and the fact that no server is considered low. The 2 bottom servers are pretty much completely daed in wvw yet they are still medium which is the same pop as tier 5 servers. I am pretty much now confident that they made it so low population isn’t even a possibility. So its 500 gems to transfer to the medium pop (Dead Population) 2 lowest pop servers. Meaning nobody will ever transfer there period.

There is technically no “low” label for a server, the lowest is medium. It is vague and misleading though, but its probably intentional.

From Wiki:
Standard transfer fees
Medium: 500 Gem
High: 1000 Gem
Very High: 1800 Gem

A server can win, and still drop,
A server can win, and still lose rating
Thats glicko for you

At the same time remember its not a human being, its just a program that calculates numbers, if 3 servers have similar ratings and one of those servers has a sudden mass exodus, yea its going to be a lopsided matchup for awhile till said server loses enough rating because its not based on a real person deciding the matchups using ongoing situations.

I agree though that a better matchmaking system needs to be used, because glicko is honestly just stupid and ridiculed by most people. You win, and you can end up losing or dropping :/ seriously anet…

Its a valid question. People are not always able to use ts for a variety of reasons because of rl issues, kids, spouses, etc. Implementing such a feature would certainly make cross server communication that currently is only possible through guild/private messages and programs such as ts, much more accessible and easier.

There are certain things you can do to help the situation aside from the obvious, using communication programs like TS ofc. Watching wp’s of other maps for when they go contested, asking for and keeping in contact with scouts on maps, keeping in contact with guilds/players on other maps etc. There are multiple ways to help.

Dhemize.8649:

X T D.6458:

When YB was steamrolling, ktraining, and spawncamping FA and SoS, why werent any Yaks complaining about the “lack of balance”. Guess what YB the free rides over, suck it up and stop acting like crybabies.

You must have selective reading or an agenda to hate everything YB related. There were many who were bored of them and aware of the imbalance.

What I hate is hypocrites with that old ridiculous attitude of " well its ok when we do it, but how dare anyone do it to us, I need to complain to the world"

When YB was steamrolling, ktraining, and spawncamping FA and SoS, why werent any Yaks complaining about the “lack of balance”. Guess what YB the free rides over, suck it up and stop acting like crybabies.

The new map is just godawful garbage, its large, confusing, and full of abused gimmicky garbage.

Zachary Stiers.1879:

With Heart of Thorns the exotic equipment purchased with gold and Badges of Honor will become salvageable. Salvaging a piece of this gear returns only the upgrades that were applied and some Badges of Honor.

Thank you for this change, its been needed for a long time. Out of curiosity, will the returned upgrades be account bound or unbound, and will this also apply to karma gear?

It seems like every other week PvP gets the call of the mists effect bonuses which is fine and all I have no problem with it, and the tournaments. I was thinking why not have something like this for WvW. A small weekend bonus to wxp, magic find, for everyone every once in a while for WvW. Who know it might help get some more people interested in wvw, especially for lower tiers and actually start doing it regularly.