Guild Wars 2

What are your setting?

Even GTX 750 Ti use no big use for 1080P in other games
But it will be much faster than 7750

The problem is your CPU you will see

7750 use in gaming about 40 W while GTX 750 Ti use about 62-65W.
Even if you would OC 7750 there is now way to use more than 50% power

hehe

Then just lower your solition on minimum and try it for few min. GPu should be able to give you more than 40 FPS (min)

You can also OC GPu to 1100 or 1150 core clock

Yeah i know
- then get more cash

Why? Like i said new Maxwell will arrive – pride drops – while CPu will have steady price

Try do get resolution on min. Try different seting in LA and report it …

Look i know that GTX 750 Ti is much faster…
In GW2 7750 is to strong for E8500 or E8500 is to weak!

First replace CPU because their price is"steady" while GPU can get price drop or new GTX 8** will come soon so….

Why dont you understand! Try it out, set i5 to 2.0GHz as 2 core in bios and try it….

In normal fights (quest with 20 people) E8500 cant manage more than 20 FPS on lowest settings ( 20 FPS and deeps below 5 fps)

Look in GW2 GTX 750 Ti is overkill or 7850/R6 265
While problem with other games – new games – Witcher 3/BF4/thief – GTX 750 Ti is no that good card. I am telling him to wait for Better Maxwell! like 860

Get better PSU like XFX 450/550W

7750 in GW2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN9duBa77is

problem is money
GPU – price drops
CPU – steady price

So after he will buy GTX 750 he will need to replace E8500 with i5? or buy first i5 and then decide, if you need more GPu power?

- I did same mistake went from 5770 to 5870 (now R9 270)

Did you ever play this game with E8500 – i had almost same system .
E8500 + 5770 and E8500 was bottlenecking!

These benchmark are old. Drivers already improved it!

Personally- GTX 750 Ti is not that good upgrade from 7750. I know that you have bad PSU and it is time to change that CPU/PSU/RAM/MB

if you get i5 + 4Gb ram + MB – you will be fine at BF4/ crysis 3. Then wait for maxwell 860 series or maybe R9 280 or new AMD GPUs…

Most of you dont understand that GTX 750 wont be faster than 7750- because CPU is bottlenecking!

Get new PSU
- XFX 450W
- 6300/i5 (maybe i3 4130)
- MB+ 8Gb ram

- this what you should do.

sirsquishy.8531:

XFlyingBeeX.2836:

I dont think that your VGA is a bottleneck to you
First change CPU/Mobo/ram
FX 6300/i5 + normal MB + 4 or 8Gb ram

Then wait until maxwell arrive and get R9 280 or new maxwell and buy new PSU (XFX 550W)

His entire system is a bottle neck. The HD7750 (which is SLIGHTLY better then a HD6670), isn’t that good. And while he would gain worlds of performance by upgrading to an i3/i5 over the core2. He doesnt have the cash to drop into a new build right now. So the logical upgrade is to get a card that can be used in a new build (750TI) and go from there.

You are not right!
7750 is bottlenecked by E8500!
Logical is that he should wait for maxwell (all other cards). He can buy new CPU. Also 7750 is great overclocker you can boost up 30-40% his card

E8500 bottleneck 7750 – true

Change your CPU- if you want nvidia wait for 860 (maxwell) or AMD r9 280 – great for 1080P

Benchmarks!
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/guild-wars-2-performance-benchmark,3268-6.html

GTX 750 is wrong choice for this game GET NEW CPU lower some details and wait for price drop. Then get Best P/P card

I dont think that your VGA is a bottleneck to you
First change CPU/Mobo/ram
FX 6300/i5 + normal MB + 4 or 8Gb ram

Then wait until maxwell arrive and get R9 280 or new maxwell and buy new PSU (XFX 550W)

You CPu single thread is to weak. Get AMD FX – hehe .. I AM JOKING!
Your network? Or maybe GPU drivers?

Also maybe is win 8.1 because some people on forum have same issue

You can try to uninstall drivers + clean (driversweeper) + install new non-beta drivers or check which are best drivers for win 8.1

Okey then do this
- try reinstalling game
- Uninstall drivers then clean with driver sweeper (restart PC) and install 13.2 cat

So still CPU pikes?

Like i said i thing that your mobo is throttling you CPU . Try it
Go to bios set as 4 core and OC it to 4.2Ghz wioth 1.32V or less do a test
Then you can also try as one core per module (one core per CU)

i mean 4 phase for 95W TDP CPU …

You have R9 280X
R9 280X is way to fast for any CPU in this game! It is a MONSTER!

That mobo wont let you to OC this CPU – maybe mobo cause CPU throttle = FPS pikes

Problem is : more people on the server

Do you know how much is FX 4100… and you are playing at max settings
- lowest model limit
- lowest character quality
shaders – low

Just set setting to get playable and still good quality

OC FX 4100 to 4.5Ghz – if you have cooling and OC mobo

did you run furmark?

That CPU is very weak for this game

- More people in world means less FPS

Problems is your CPU and GW2
Why?
1. GW2 can only use about 3 cores and you CPU single thread is not that great.
2. directX – a lot of CPU overhead – they should optimize game for directX 11.2 or Mantle

Hot to fix it
- lowest character model limit
- lowest character quality
- shaders -> low

Jaguar x4 2.0Ghz = 1.99 cb
Fx 4300 2.0Ghz = 1.7 cb
that is my benchmark

Stormcrow.7513:

With the new consoles using multithreading more efficiently as well as applications, I would future proof by using the 4770k.

If that happens then FX 8350 is a beast

Aza OC FX 8350 to 4.5-5Ghz
And sett shaders to low for better performance

i7 4770K 4.4GHz = i5 4670K 4.4Ghz
There will be no difference

You dont need to go for i7.
Just buy i5 4670K and better water cooling – for this game is the best!

But is now the time? Not really

It use Jaguar cores
I did benchmark with jaguar cores (laptop) vs piledriver in cinebench R11.5 and jaguar was about 16% faster.

The problem is why does conzoles use 8 cores instead of 4 faster cores? – it is onlay one answer – MT is bettter! Better P/W and low level API scales 8 cores very well…

Starswarm benchmark – use mantle (low level API) shows that FX 4300 4.5Ghz will never be as fast as FX 6300 3.5Ghz or even less

GW2 need to use MANTLE or directX 11.2

Dont be a fool
Why are conzoles use low end CPUs… WHY?

Mantle is great for low end/old CPUs such us Athlon x4/i5 750…
Athlon x4 and R9 280X with mantle runs BF4 perfectly…

Are you sure?
Mantle is low level API – it is almost same lvl API that conzoles USE.

Mantle is going to eccelerate AMD/INTEL – every CPU because … Actually this is wrong
– problem is directX that bottleneck every CPU!

I would like to see MMOs with mantle any low level API!

I did starswarm benchmark
RTS-LOW
DirectX 21FPS (FX 4300 4.0GHz)- usage 50%
Mantle 61FPS (FX 4300 3.5GHz) – usage 100%
GPU was bottlenecking at the start – using Mantle

He is wrong with PC hardware bottleneck – Software is bottlenecking Hardware!

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A78L_LE/

for 125W TDP CPU- great
1. Run prime 95 and check if your CPU is throttling
2. Go to bios set as 4 cores and under-volt it
- set as 1.3-1.32V and 4.0Ghz

Try to find more GTX 770 users. Hopefully they can help you

furmark or OCCt – GPu burn test
http://www.ocbase.com/index.php/download

If black screen appears then you GPU is faulty

But you will need more test
CPU burn test (to test your mobo VRMs)

Completely different architecture? Of course
- use GCN and jaguar 8 core 1.6Ghz …
- But with GDDR5 there is no memory bandwidth bottleneck

PC always bottlenecked by hardware??
You are totally wrong!

Mantle requires to much of software firms to implement??
DirectX is requires much more!

Do you know how much directX bottleneck your i5?
I bet with Mantle i3 destroy your i5 ….

Okey .. enough of arguing we will see what will happen in future…

Okey
1. Contact NVIDIA with your problem!
2. Run OCCT for 50-60 min.

AMD has good single thread performance! problem is their design ….

If Games use 4 cores sometimes FX 4300 is faster sometimes i3 4330 is faster
GW2 runs good on FX CPUS – LA (never goes under 45 FPS with settings that i use)
- that is all

Just Intel-fanboy…. i bought intel 3770K oced to 4.6GHz … i wasted my money
- problems is Network and crappy directX
…..

YOu dont understand MANTLE
- do you know why consoles are faster? ….

Mantle doesnt mean that it will push 8 core CPU to 100% usage in games it means that ST will be faster and MT will scale better…

Right now PC SW bottleneck HW!

I hope that Nvidia will support MANTLE and MMOs will support mantle…

I am not fanboy .. i just want the best for costumers!

If you want to run GW2 perfectly – you need atleast i5 or even i5 K models.
So actually, because of SW on PC you have to spend much more money…

sirsquishy.8531
You still dont understand.

EDIT:
Main problem of AMD CPUs is:
Intel has better support in games/windows

4 cores are the best for these time why?
Compare in Crysis 3
pentium (2cores) vs i5 (4Cores)
FX4300 (4cores) vs FX 8350 (8cores)

GW2 need to add directX 11.2 support – that woudl be great for AMD Cpus

I did?
please read again

all i said i first post is that AMD is not that bad …. so …

What about board?

Maybe it is win 8.1 some people have same problem using win 8.1 in this game

for better FPS you should go with i5 K model but is very ecpensive….
Maybe it is game bug…

You can try i5 3350P…. if you get it for normal price

Some pictures?

i3 is not that bad for this game and GTX 650 is not bottleneck at the lowest settings

sirsquishy.8531:

until the OP reveals his CPU we won’t know how to help him.

and Mr FlyingBee, STOP with your banter. you are doing NOTHING but Hi-Jacking threads at this point.

Man I wish there was an ignore/Block Feature on this forum.

Heh? Hi-Jacking threads?

Look i just get mad when users say that AMD is really bad – because it is not true
And if you have bulldozer and Gigabyte board you can do this

1. Unparking cores
2. Bios- settings
1 Core per Module (1 core per CU)
OC to 4.8-5.2Ghz and GW2 will run really good…
3. Buldozer fix for Win 7

Also you can do (1 core per CU) with other boards but you need to do it other way….

sirsquishy.8531
thanks man

http://pclab.pl/art55318-10.html
less CPU bottleneck

win 8.1 use directX 11.2
If game support directX 11.2 there should be CPU boost

You did not understand!

Yep FX 4300 is faster than i3 4330 in some games – THAT IS TRUE – dont be a fool!
http://gamegpu.ru/rpg/rollevye/divinity-original-sin-test-gpu.html
http://gamegpu.ru/rpg/rollevye/wasteland-2-test-gpu.html

I did benchmark in starswarm
i3 4330 (60FPS) vs FX 4300 (61FPS) 3.5Ghz

and here is slower
http://gamegpu.ru/rts-/-strategii/total-war-rome-ii-patch-2-test-gpu.html
http://gamegpu.ru/racing-simulators-/-gonki/next-car-game-alpha.html

happy now?

I say you that FX 4300 = i3 4330
I did benchmark multithreading – gaming+ streaming
i3 4330 vs FX 4300 3.5Ghz
both were same just like in starswarm (MANTLE) benchmark

in GW2 i dont know – no latest benchmark

But still if you are playing on win7 then choose i3 4330 over FX 4300.. but price is to high and you can get FX 6300/8320 for lower or same price

Hello,
i am wondering about win 8.1 performance in GW2.

I saw that BF4 gets great boost from win 8.1 on FX CPUs.

Did any one tried Win 8.1 vs win 7?
Any benchmarks? Problems with win 8.1?

Thanks for your help

Yep… i will try it later need to finnish some games also i will do comparison between win 8.1 and win 7 on FX CPU maybe even on Intel i7

Intel 1 core will never beat AMD module…
Why?
pentium vs FX 4300
2 cores vs 2 modules

1 module is much mor epowerful than you think.

Problem is optimization! Some games run on FX really great some not.
In some case FX 4300 is faster than i3 4330 but is some case is same as penitum…

If you buy FX CPUs you need to run Win8.1….

Only 2Gb of ram may be a problem

Thats not totaly true
Amd has good ST performance but intel has better…
If AMD deeps to 15-20 FPS then INTEL will deep to 20-25 FPS…
I have both setup and AMD and INTEL and actually FX is better P/P but intel is faster.

To get better performance you can try win 8.1

Behellagh.1468:

Or they could be waiting for DDR4.

Heh, thats great question!
DDR4? Excavator in 2015? ….

I hope that they will stay with big (performance) core

Steamroller is strong here
20% faster (clock per clock) than piledriver and use less power
i didnt do comparison but math tells us that Steamroller 2.9Ghz = FX 4300 3.5Ghz

Intel is pushing Singlethread, AMD is pushing multithread (servers).
DirectX is great on XboX One while it sucks on PC.

With Mantle every CPU will get ST boost! it is easier to optimize….. okay enough about MANTLE. I hope that developers will support it!

Problem is that games are limited by software! We are in 2014 – 10 years – (WoW 2004) and what did developer for greater experiences??? (i am talking about MMOs)

What about CPUs?
AMD/intel best CPu in 2004 against best desktop (gaming) CPU in 2014 ? 6/12 threads – we dont need that if developers wont support more cores!

Nvidia physx would be great to support all GPUS – INTEL/AMD.
APU would be great!