Guild Wars 2

Maybe in the future (about 0.0001%)
Physx + Mantle (AMD or NVIDIA) – THE BEST for costumers

i did benchmark with
Starswarm – where is a lot of CPU bottleneck
I7 4770K and GTX 780Ti (38Fps) – (CPU bottleneck)
vs
FX 4300 1.8Ghz with R9 270X (41Fps) – bottleneck GPU
….

Avelos.6798:

“How to achieve 60 fps min In WvW Zergs”

Answer:
Intel i7 4960X @ 7 Ghz.
Single Graphics card unit with high enough clock rate to keep the FPS at that number with all of the particle effects going on. Say, GTX 670 at least.

this one is better
“How to achieve 60 fps min In WvW Zergs”
With MAntle

HatSimulator.9362:

check your in game mail, you just saved my computer

thanks man

a bit lower FPS wont kill you have fun

what about FPS?

if your mobo throttle your FX .. it cannot throttle 4 core it use like 40-45W less ….

Yeah just look, if it throttle okay?

1.32V for 4.0Ghz – good
on my Fx i have for 3.5Ghz 1.325v and for 4.1Ghz 1.415V

Okey
Do 10 min of prime 95 Max FFT
then try game if it works okay .. then lower you V…..

what is you auto Vcore? – you can see it in HWinfo

Your Cpu will be stable with less – set that V in bios

Now one more thing disable turbo core
set CPu clock to 4-4.2GHz – go to win 7
download AMD overdrive,HWinfo and prime 95
-http://www.hwinfo.com/download.php
-http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/amd-overdrive/Pages/overview.aspx
-http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=205

with AMD ovderive you will be able to lower V with prime you will do test with HWinfo you will watch throttling

when you get max minimum stable V 10 min in prime maximum FFT test go in bios and set it

You want asrock board? or the cheapest like gigabyte?
I suggest you to get GA-970A-UD3/P

Go to bios – OC tweaker – CPU Active core control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBuGCkbgPcM
6:04

CPu configuration
1.****
2.****
3.CPU Active core control- try to change it

Your mobo is weak – you need to change it
can you tell me the name of the store from where your buying PC components

Bios-advance- CPu configuration ?

Can you find how to disable your cores? disable 4 cores – set voltage as 1.28V – 4.0GHz -it must be stable

this one?

XFlyingBeeX.2836:

Your mobo? hmm
1. Set as only 4 cores
- if no pikes
1.1 – BIOS – Set 8/4 cores 4.0Ghz set 1.28V set LLC (load line cal.) ON- all power saving settings ON!
1.2 – test Prime 95 10min (max FFT-test)- check CPU speed (pikes)
1.3 – If stable lower voltages if not higher voltage

4 cores will be enough – you will be able to get lower V and higher OC

i have Fx 6300 – using 2M/4C – 3.5Ghz 1.1V

PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_QSqpLlp8E same bios?

Your mobo? hmm
1. Set as only 4 cores

GPu pikes from 60 to 20% – CPU pikes (from 4Ghz to 1Ghz)

check HDD
http://www.hdtune.com

http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskInfo/index-e.html

which PSU/HDD and how old is it?

try older drivers

sobe.4157:

XFlyingBeeX.2836:

sobe.4157:

Aza.2105:

I don’t know about you guys, but I’m all for that kind of change.

That kind of change is a milestone for the future, as people such as poor college students will be able to afford something that is worthwhile instead of settling due to lower budget. 100% for Mantle if it succeeds.

You dont get it right?
Intel is nearly at his maximum ST perfromance….
Just look what they did from i5 750 to i5 4670K or even to core duo
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-wolfdale-yorkfield-comparison,3487-17.html
E8500 4.5Ghz is on pair with i5 3570K 3.4-3.8Ghz in ST (apps)
- optimized, lower power, better iGPU
iGPU will become co-processor in every task in future

I still don’t think you get it… This was about Mantle and misconception of what Mantle does for the silicon, not forcing 8 cores to work 100% load in a game that is not designed for such as you’ve previously mentioned.

I understand that you are currently the Mantle mascot, which is fine I suppose, but read up on it a bit more and take a read of the OpenGL extensions I posted. May help alleviate some things.

Why you nothing that i want 8 cores at 100%?! – yes this is possible and mantle can do this in future.

Like i said directX cripple AMD CPus
Mantle is great for all low end CPUs, also great for games that are CPU limited. Yeap Mantle is fresh API future will show….

- Topic
I disagree with i3 haswell – it is to expensive. Get i5 or get FX 8320 – for this game disable 1 core per module and oc to 4.5GHz and it will beat i3 by a lot

which drivers… try older drivers or beta drivers

HatSimulator.9362:

What could be wrong with that? How do i “check it”? Its been running fine downloading uploading etc

And still it is only this game that i get these lag spikes

drivers?
GPu drivers?

Check your HDD/SSD

sobe.4157:

Aza.2105:

I don’t know about you guys, but I’m all for that kind of change.

That kind of change is a milestone for the future, as people such as poor college students will be able to afford something that is worthwhile instead of settling due to lower budget. 100% for Mantle if it succeeds.

You dont get it right?
Just look what they did from i5 750 to i5 4670K or even to core duo

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-wolfdale-yorkfield-comparison,3487-17.html

E8500 4.5Ghz is on pair with i5 3570K 3.4-3.8Ghz in ST (apps)

- optimized, lower power, better iGPU
iGPU will become co-processor in every task in future

sobe.4157:

It’s possible, I’ve skimmed over so many kitten sites after Mantle dropped. All I know is, if Mantle succeeds on it’s claims, it’s a bonus for consumers. Right now all I see is hype for a single demo and game, but at least the results are promising and hopefully this doesn’t end up like previous proprietary tech. Cross your fingers and clinch your kittens

if Mantle succeeds?
Did you try Mantle? Did you try it on low end CPU and high end GPU?
Win 7
Star swarm benchmark follow-ultra
FX 4300 1.8Ghz does not bottleneck R9 270X – Mantle
Fx 6300 4.7Ghz bottleneck R9 270X – directX

Bf4
Fx 4300 3.5Ghz does not bottleneck R9 270X – Mantle
FX 8350 4.7Ghz bottleneck R9 270X – DirectX

Mantle is will never give huge GPu boost … It is all about CPU
Strategy games, MMOs, MP-online games – CPU limited

http://hothardware.com/News/How-AMDs-Mantle-Will-Redefine-Gaming-Doesnt-Require-AMD-Hardware/

DirectX bottleneck your i5!
Look at conzoles- APU with 6x jaguar cores at 1.6Ghz with 7870 inside (PS4) – how would 6 jaguar cores run BF4 MP under PC directX…

Mantle is Open just like tressFX (nvidia already optimize it)… Mantle does not require GCN core. Mantle is not a battle against NVIDIA it is battle against INTEL….

More games that will support MANTLE better is for us costumers….

Mantle
+ less CPu power, much better games
- support

sobe.4157:

Avelos.6798:

You don’t get better, smoother gameplay by writing a game engine to support DX11 or Mantle… You get better smoother gameplay by optimizing the game. Deeeerrrrrrrrrrrp.

And once again, you can’t compare Guild Wars 2 to non MMOs.

He thinks Mantle will force cpus to run all cores at load…. Let him have faith on something that AMD said is open but leverages GCN architecture. We need to let Mantle develop and mature before praising to see how “open” it actually will be.

HEHE….Mantle gives FX 4300 huge boost in Bf4/starswarm – actually clock per clock is FX 4300 faster than i3 haswell.

DirectX cripple AMD CPUS … Bot Inetl and AMD and i am happy that AMD finally did something great for us costumer. Why should you buy i5 if i3 with MANTLE will be faster than i5 with directX…

Intelfanboys….
If i tell you that FX 4300 3.5Ghz (mantle) is much faster than Fx 4.7Ghz directX in BF4 – it scales up to 8 threads.

Mostly i recommend you to wait for DDR4 – or buy i5 4430 with R9 270 ….

Nope GW2 does not support Mantle – if we want better smoother gamey they should do it. Maybe NVIDIA would actually do something for costumers and support MANTLE

i just compare Fx 4300 vs Haswell i3 clock per clock (rts – starswarm) Fx 4300 lead by 1 FPS
In Bf4 Mp FX 4300 3.0Ghz (mantle) destroy Fx 4600 4.7Ghz – fair enough?

So if you will try
Thief/Star Citizen … you should get AMD GPu – get R9 290 Sapphire trixx best High end GPU for that price

Nvidia is ….
“Open” features/tech is better for us costumers

Your using win 7 or win 8?
Get buldozer fix for this game

go to Bios set at 1 core per module

Dont get NVIDIA get AMD GPU – Mantle support

GW2 should get MANTLE support….

what about drivers
uninstall + driversweeper + restart + new drivers + restart

Do prime 95 and OCCT GPU – check temp

Get fixs for win 7(bulldozer)

I think that MANTLE would give you a massive FPS boost! WHY? Because it use 8 cores.

100% usage on i7? that would be good

+ They would only need to give support to MANTLE – no need to rewrite game engine

PS: I ran my FX 6300 at 1.68V for benchmarks on air

you need to do this
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/138394-amds-fx-8350-analyzed-does-piledriver-deliver-where-bulldozer-fell-short/2

up to 20% boost
set as 1 core per module- for games that dont use more than 4 cores – even in BF3 MP BF4 MP

then you cna go higher than 1.55V- CPU will run cooler – much cooler – i can go more than 1.6V on air (true spirit 140-1fan)

do this
set as 1 core per module – bios
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/138394-amds-fx-8350-analyzed-does-piledriver-deliver-where-bulldozer-fell-short/2
up to 20% boost
Your cooler
And your mobo…
YOu should be able to get 1.65V 5,3GHz+ with good aircooler and at least 8+2 phase mobo

you can also go more stable 4,5Ghz – 1.48V – check temp and benchmarks

do this
set as 1 core per module
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/138394-amds-fx-8350-analyzed-does-piledriver-deliver-where-bulldozer-fell-short/2

up to 20% boost
Your cooler
And your mobo…

YOu should be able to get 1.65V 5,3GHz+ with good aircooler and at least 8+2 phase mobo

overclock it to 4,5Ghz …
set shadows off

chris.9142:

Because AMD CPU have much lower single threaded performance compared to a same clocked Intel guild wars puts mist of its rendering in to 2 or 3 CPU threads

I know that AMD has lower single thread performance… i have both cpus…

I have to say that AMD has really strong multicore perfromance…

Guild Wars use 4 threads – so FX 43*/63* will beat i3 … atlon x4 beat pentium
and is near i3 perfromance …

Actually these “online” games MMOs/BF3/4 MP … is mainly software bottlenecking…
Some test that i made.

BF:BC 2 while playing SP it use like 70-80% while playing MP it use 50-60% … GPU isnt bottlenecking
BF3 MP i downclocked FX 6300 to 2,0 GHz i and i tried MP .. CPU usage went to 100% all cores at 100%! WoW
But when you clock it to 4,0Ghz or more usage wont go more than 75% .. GPU isnt bottlenecking
So there is a lot of software bottlenecking… WHY? but PC use crappy software while konzoles use great software…

Mantle will change that… PC will become 80% konzole

And stop crying about AMD in this game. Intel has same problems. Few months ago everything was working fine but now it does not. You have to test in on same server…

you may get better performance if you disable 2nd core per module…

still i recommend you to do prime 95 to check your CPU stability

Torque.2948:

This game is cpu heavy and barely uses 50 to 60 % of the gpu. The problem is it needs work it needs more optimization. The fanboys of Guild Wars will always say get better hardware, but thats simply not the case. I have the some of the best hardware and guess what the fps drops in this game are the worst I have ever witnessed. If Anet doesn’t optimize, this game will always run like garbage with huge frame drops etc… It has very little to do with the Gpu. I have played future mmo’s in beta and they run 100x smoother than this game. I loved Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2 has a lot of potential, but only if they find the resources to fix the issues. Don’t spend time on these mini game updates spend time optimizing the game then spend time on an xpac. I suspect the problem lies with Ncsoft not wanting to come off the funds because they are to busy with spending the funds on Wildstar..

+1

Why does mine i7 3770 lagg in when i set to max in LA – actually is same as FX 6300…
I discovered that 4 core intel cpu will almost always have higher CPU usage than quad core FX CPU … why?

On low i get at 3,5GHz FX 6300 , 32-40+ in LA

Go in bios set as 1 core per module… why? GW2 use only 4 cores actually even 3 core wont go to 100% usage

So you can get higher OC- with 4M/4C

Pentium/i3 stock cant compare to OC Athlon/FX even in GW2

GW2 is anti CPU – for amd or intel…

Your CPu is slow… OC it to 4,0GHz

FX now give better framerates than phenom… actullay FX 4300 beast quad core phenom.
So you can do this
go to bios
set 1 core per module
OC to 5,2GHz

Then benchmark

First:
I bought i7 3770 for my brother… believe me not much difference between FX 6300 and i7… it is software …

IT SHOULD SUPPORT MANTLE TO GET THE BEST FPS

THIS MY GIVE YOU BOOST!
Go to bios
set as 1 core per module…
OC to 4,5 – 5,0GHz – it will be easy to OC . Less heat less voltages
Then try and benchmark

I hope that this game gets AMD Mantle support … then FPS in LA would be on i7 like 60+

Why not?
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/33476-amd-and-oxide-games-show-off-mantle-demo