New item, new currency. Makes sense to me. No reason to let FoTM farmers instantly buy something others can’t get. I have plenty of pristine relics banked and I think they made the correct decision.
Everyone had a chance to get the first Laurel. I’ve completed my daily achievements before the patch. When the patch was released the daily achievements were reset and I was able to get the first laurel before midnight UTC.
The update was between 2 – 9am my time, during a weekday, reset is 11am my time. I don’t agree with you that everybody had that chance.
You had the chance. You were sleeping. Get over it. People missed the one time Karka event too because they weren’t on. You aren’t special, you don’t deserve anything.
It’s almost comical how some servers are not even bothering this week now so they can drop a tier. Starting at a lower tier with a reset ranking will have them demolishing people and shoot straight to the top while damaging the servers they will be fighting by dropping them much lower than they should be.
Reverse this stupid decision to reset the ranks. This is only going to further hurt this already horrible WvW rating system.
Don’t forget they’re also changing the math for how ratings are calculated. So take Kaineng for example, a T8 server with a sudden influx of transfers dominated T8 for a few weeks before moving to T7, and then dominated each tier only moving up 1 per week.
The goal of the new math is to make a server like that move through the tiers much faster. I’ll keep my fingers crossed and hope that it works and things don’t take a whole month to stabilize.
ok, sure that might make sense for Kaineng, but what about winning servers in top tiers that have sustained victory records, those dont count for anything? It’s just not fair.
Considering the top tiers will start at the top, it’s entirely possible they may stay there, you will likely see the most volatility in T5-T2
This is incorrect. Someone has to lose the T1 match. That losing server will demolish the servers they get paired up with for the next month. This only complicates a ranking system that has almost worked itself back to where it should be.
I feel sorry for whoever has to play JQ/SoS/SoR in 2 weeks.
LOL – This will cause some of the stronger servers starting slightly lower than they belong and blow up that tier anyway. Seeing as it’s almost fixed now, I’m not sure of the reasoning here.
Same as Wayland. Have title still but carves reset to 0.
BG is a monster. A lot of great fights with them. Let the Sea of Sorrows fill with tears. LOL at your low population comment…
BG is completely capable of coming in 2nd, lol.
Care to wager on that?
BG doesn’t have the coverage to come in second, regardless of how hard they push on the weekend. They do however have the power to keep everyone closer.
Whats up JQ can’t handle the EB tactics? Did you really think we were gonna push BG, knowing that they were going to push you?
You just better hope BG never realizes that they could demolish you and keep the lead if they ever decided to focus you instead of JQ.
2v1 post already, Really? No offence to blackgate but after the recent stacking they dont have the coverage to stay above jq or sos. gj trying to get them to focus sos so you win though.
You can deny it all you want. SoS spawn camping EB zone in while BG sits in JQ keep right behind them. Odd how neither one of them are taking anything else from each other. Keep denying it though. I could care less what you do. Eventually BG will realize that they should have attacked SoS when they drop back down because they don’t have coverage to keep up all week.
Whats up JQ can’t handle the EB tactics? Did you really think we were gonna push BG, knowing that they were going to push you?
You just better hope BG never realizes that they could demolish you and keep the lead if they ever decided to focus you instead of JQ.
@Ohai – Ruin wvw in what way? I wasn’t aware being #1 for weeks was ruining wvw, which HoD was doing at launch.
You might as well say Maguuma is ruining WvW for Tier 4 since they own every single objective, and the same with Kaineng in Tier 5.
No offense dude, but you whine a lot.
Well, purposely mass recruiting the biggest and best wvw guilds from around the globe to stack a server to guarantee flawless victories each week kinda does ruin the competition of the tier. It forces the competition to also try to mass recruit, which then effects the lower tiers, catch my drift?
ppl need to drop their egos and records and just play the game, you know?
You are the same guy that left PRX to join a guild on SoS and run around in the biggest zerg on SoS.
So I guess the question is why do people pick the number 1 server to move too, then say others should not?
Catch my drift?
Maybe SoS needs some more Night Time coverage, because when it comes to even numbers you guys do not do so well.
Not so well is an understatement. It’s more like they get roflstomped with even numbers. BG is a server to fear when you see their groups coming and they give a great fight. SoS, not so much. I don’t even think twice about running into their zerg.
If cof is too hard for you then sorry, you’re not “average” you’re below average.
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Dungeons don’t need nerfed. Most of them are already pathetically easy. The ones that are hard are rather enjoyable. The rest are just there for lodestones, tokens, and cash.
The amount of SoS folks in this thread telling BG to go after JQ so they can stay in T1 is a joke. Fight your own fight and stop worrying about what BG does. Keeping the 1st place server from stampeeding all over the place will earn you much more than coming in 2nd or 3rd by 50k.
It’s really a shame how worried you guys are that you may not actually win. Those panties sure got bunched up tight when the lead dropped to 5k.
I hope you guys at JQ are proud of your victory, too bad you have to exploit potions that cause culling to get it. At 4:30 pm est at SoS garrison the zerg was about half made of up players using the ascalonian mage ghost potion. And no one could figure out how their zerg could disappear in such a small area, well that’s how. I didn’t even see them until I was dead.
Again, congratulations on exploiting culling to win, that’s really impressive.
Must suck that culling only effects your server… /headdesk
Nothing is broken, therefore, nothing needs fixed. If you like killing trash, more power to you. I have no problem with people that want to kill trash but stop trying to ram your playstyle down everyones throat.
The patch is in 5 days and we expect dungeons to be much more difficult after that (no rezzing, etc).
Dungeon will be exactly the same. The only people that will be affected are the ones that never took the time to fight something properly and just waypoint zerged.
LOL at all the people that think they have to kite every boss. I usually won’t post this, but this is a classic L2P issue.
So let me get this straight. You reported a guy for something that you had no idea about, THEN you came to the forums to ask? Not that your one stupid little report will do anything, but I’m sure there’s plenty of idiotic reports like this that cause the real issues forever to be taken care of.
Yes.
Nothing from the guild will transfer over. No perks, no infamy, no bank, etc.
Guess what so today i get kicked at the jade fotm boss AGAIN.
What was i doing … I was AGAIN HELPING A NOOB, i type fast as i work with computers so i type a lot, why do people get offended, im about to lose it ive been griefed at jade 4 times on fotm lvl 4 now, only thing i do wrong is i talk a lot, usually helping a noob, both times today and last night the noob ASKED me for help.
And my guild doesn’t want to help me, i would like to find a new guild on t.c that would.
I highly doubt you were kicked for helping someone. There is so much more to this story that you aren’t saying. I’m sure we all agree that the vote/kick needs changed, but somehow I think that even if it required 4 votes, you’d be kicked.
Stop pugging if you are going to cry about it. No punishment is needed for anything. I have yet to have anyone in my set group ever DC.
believe it or not: not everyone moves at a pace where the only thing left is a legendary or the grind for ascended gear – even if he or she started with release
Then, no offense, but they don’t belong in this dungeon. There has to be SOMETHING hard in the game for PvE. There are plenty of other dungeons they can go practice in. This fight is excellent and needs no nerf.
I found thief an extremely ineffective class in WvW .
Read this, LOL’d, and closed the thread.
If a level 1 character wants to do a low level fractal with his friends, I don’t see why we should stop him.
This is exactly my point. We shouldn’t stop them. However, I’ll be kitten if some internet forum warriors are going to tell me that it’s wrong to kick them out of a pug. Stick with your friends or your guildies if you want to join with a low level character. Don’t expect the 80’s to cater to your desire to run a fractal.
To the post further up about 2/3manning it. Big deal. Been there, done that. Bottom line is I’d rather 3 man it than bring low levels to fill out the party, most of the time it ends up being that anyway.
Are all 80’s capable? Far from it. However, I will take my chances that the 80 will outperform the 16. Again, my preference. Nothing elitist about it, which is why I added to the thread in the first place.
I did not say I had seen people 2/3 manning it (though I have done that too). I’ve seen 5 people lvl 2 and 3, all light or medium armour, do it. Someone else posted the actual link. Your argument was that if a full group of low levels couldn’t do it, they have no right to join a lvl 80 group. The fact is, a full group of low levels can do it, and therefore (according to you) they should be able to join the 80s.
So because 1 group of well played low levels completed it, we should invite every low level character into our group? Not going to happen. There’s also videos of people soloing Arah. While that is an exceptionally played character, that certainly is not possible by most. Sure, you found a video of experienced fractal runner doing it on low level toons. Sure, that group should be allowed, the 1000’s of other low levels should not.
You can argue anything you want and it still won’t change my stance. I will never, ever allow a low level player in any fractal group I am running. It doesn;t matter if I am running a brand new 80 alt, I will kick all low level players as will the rest of my team and that’s even if we need to bother with a PuG, which usually will not be the case.
If a level 1 character wants to do a low level fractal with his friends, I don’t see why we should stop him.
This is exactly my point. We shouldn’t stop them. However, I’ll be kitten if some internet forum warriors are going to tell me that it’s wrong to kick them out of a pug. Stick with your friends or your guildies if you want to join with a low level character. Don’t expect the 80’s to cater to your desire to run a fractal.
To the post further up about 2/3manning it. Big deal. Been there, done that. Bottom line is I’d rather 3 man it than bring low levels to fill out the party, most of the time it ends up being that anyway.
Are all 80’s capable? Far from it. However, I will take my chances that the 80 will outperform the 16. Again, my preference. Nothing elitist about it, which is why I added to the thread in the first place.
Why are you not learning these dungeons within your guild? Best place for learning. Pugs just want to get in and out most of the time.
I can’t blame someone for being tired of teaching that 100th newbie the ropes, tbh. I’m weary of it myself.
This is a terrible attitude. I don’t mind adding a 5th to any group if only 4 of us are on at the time. I even post (purposely) that we have new folks with us even when we don’t. I have so many folks on my friends list that were added after we grouped them for a run. There’s a huge difference between being “experienced” and being “good”.
Probably took much longer than the warrior, and as the video displays most of it had to be carried out in range. No melee in full berserker for large parts of the time like with a warrior.
Well done nevertheless. You just can’t conclude that because of this video warriors are not god of damage in PvE.
This ele had 3055 HP, the warrior over 4k plus the armor difference. And in what part of this video, on a character downscaled to lv35, did you ever see this ele hitting with a skill for 9k damage, let alone half of that. Fire Grab is 45 sec cd vs. 6 sec 100b and doesn’t even hit for half the damage 100b does.
Just ignore this guy. He’s had a hard on for warriors in every thread. Now that another class posted it like he claimed couldn’t be done, he’s still got to bash warriors.
Nice job on the solo. I always love watching these.
I would rather have 5 players of any race in my group that know what they’re doing over a setup that looks good on paper.
I’ve seen terrible guards and I’ve seen great guards. The same goes for every class.
The quoted line is all that really matter.
Question 1 – You will have a greater chance of progressing with a level 80 (if progressing is what you want) – Since the Agony resist items are level 80, at Fractal level 10, the rings would be useless to anything under 80.
Question 2 – gw2lfg.com – In your post, state that you are new so there are no surprises.
Question 3 – As long as you know your class, you should have no issues getting through Fractal 1 and 2. You can look up the fights for the bosses since it might be a little long to post here. Fractal 2 will end with Jade Maw (all even number fractals do). If this is all of your first time fighting it, you would probably want to look up the strat.
You will be done with your achievement after doing a full Fractal 1 and 2.
Even if the mobs had their HP lowered people would still skip them. There are already a ton of threads on this subject already.
Not really, the reason they skip is because some mobs have WAY more health then they need to, they really need to lower them by a digit.
No, the reason they skip is they only want the boss/end rewards. Has nothing to do with mob health. Trash mobs could have 1 hp and I’d still skip then. First few times through a dungeon, I don’t mind killing everything. After that, it’s skip as much as you can.
Kicking players out of a party for what gear they have is supremely lame.
judge players by their actual contribution, not on whether they follow your specific school of absolute min/max-ism.
Making people run with you when you wear MF is extremely lame.
See, we all have opinions. If I don’t want to run with a MF person, that’s my right. He has the right to wear it, I have the right to group with him or not. I’m not going to take the time to see IF he can contribute. I’ll just save the hassle and get someone without it. Sure, they may not be the best either, but at least I know it’s them, not the gear.
I doubt you will find this happening. The mad rush of guilds leaving low pop servers to all move to (currently) full servers would further cripple the server they left and create a huge imbalance in the WvW population.
Not saying it’s a bad idea, just don’t think it will happen.
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Looks like I made a mistake by arguing with you because you didn’t read my post. I said I was for random color assignment.
Ahh crap..my mistake. My apologies. I see it now.
Either random or rotation would work better than the static environment we are about to have. Even taking the map completion out of it, it would be nice to have different starting locations some of the time. Same map, same spots gets old.
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I’m on your server and you completely contradict yourself. You are against rotating colors, however, the ONLY reason you finished was because your team switched colors? /boggle
As I said, it’s just like the Orr temples. Some I got lucky, some I had to work for. It’s not contradictory.
It’s nothing at all like the Orr temples. Dwayna can be 3 manned (done it), Lyssa requires nothing, just walk to the side and commune, Balthazar needs nothing unless the last boss is up, which it never is cause if it gets that far it dies, Melandru is simple, Grenth is also not very hard unless the Boss is up – again, ppl would kill it if it was.
Do not even put Orr in the same boat as the PvP zones. I have never taken more than 1 day to do all 3 Orr zones on ANY of my 6 lvl 80’s. It took me quite a while to do my first 100% and the most time consuming area was WvW and I didn’t go there just for the map. I went there to PvP and still took more time than any other portion. I only got it because I transferred over to TC on the lucky week that they wiped FA off the map for killing their Dolyaks.
Just to reiterate, you had to change colors to complete your map. After the free transfers are gone, the maps won’t change often at all. The tiers will settle in and also not change much. So again, you are against rotating colors, even though you, yourself, needed a color change to complete. Makes sense to me.
The color rotation hurts nobody yet benefits everybody. Not really sure how people can be against this. Removing it from WvW? Eh, not sure on that one. I’d rather see it left in with a rotation, however, without a rotation it should be removed.
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No, it’s not bannable. You aren’t forced to run with anyone. If I know for a fact someone is running MF gear, I dump them. Sigil of luck is usually a great indicator.
well You can have multiple set of weapons when your stack of 25 luck is built you can switch to another weapon and keep the stack .. thats what i do .. then i switch to my +9% crit weapons .. im not running any MF gear except this sigil will you kick me ?
Yep. You need to have it on for at least 25 kills in the dungeon to build your stack. I would absolutely kick you.
The real solution here is to make team color assignment random, so that each week you have a chance of getting to the mapping points near the team spawns without relying on your team dominating the map.
No! Not random -> ROTATION!
I agree that this should not be part of the map completion process (unless rotation is added).
My last couple were earned at the start of a matchup when my team switched colors.
I’m on your server and you completely contradict yourself. You are against rotating colors, however, the ONLY reason you finished was because your team switched colors? /boggle
2/ a group of 5-10 people can easily hunt all vista and POI in off-time. Get yourself a guild or organize something on your server forum. Even if you’re bad in WvW, a modicum of organization trumps all. A 10 man group on teamspeak can crush a 50 man zerg without troubles. If you treat it as a hard dungeon you can complete WvW without fighting a single human.
Really? 5 – 10 people can get them all? Show me any time that 5 – 10 people on JQ can take an SoS keep deep in EB…
Maybe in your terrible tier with terrible players you can crush a 50 man zerg with 10 people. Certainly not in T1.
Every single person in this thread arguing to keep it in ignores the simple fact that a rotation of colors is the best way to go. Half the people arguing for it’s removal, actually like PvP so stop with that stupid argument. The issue is that some areas will never be able to be taken and if they happen to get taken, you better be on for the 5 minutes you own it.
Maybe we should require all the PvPers to become a dungeon master for their legendary as well? Watch the kittenstorm that would cause…
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No, it’s not bannable. You aren’t forced to run with anyone. If I know for a fact someone is running MF gear, I dump them. Sigil of luck is usually a great indicator. I would love an inspect feature to go along with this so i can see for usre. Yeah, yeah, call me an kitten call me an elitist, call me whatever you like. I can’t stand MF leeches, but then again, I rarely join a pug.
I know it’s often argued that map completion is optional. But I think it’s important to acknowledge it’s an achievement designed to appeal to PvE players, so it’s counter-intuitive to force them to PvP to do it
The achievement has not been designed to appeal to PvE players. It has been designed to appeal to players who enjoy PvE and WvW. Which, incidentally, is why it includes WvW.
Complaining about this is the same as saying “I don’t like Orr, it’s ugly, so I think it should not count for world completition”. If you want to explore the entire world, then explore the entire world.
I’m guessing that most of the people against removing this either got their achievement by abusing the daily transfer, or don’t play in T1 or T2.
I happen to love going into WvW and I can tell you that I am pretty certain that there are points that just will not be taken in T1. It just won’t happen. The population is too great to take the deepest parts of EB from some servers.
No, I will not pay to transfer to complete my world map on my characters. I also won’t transfer prior to the paid service with the fear that I cannot get back on it. Rotate the starting points weekly and you won’t have an issue. I’m just glad I finished my completion on my first character while on a lower pop server who dominated a specific tier. I won’t however, be able to complete any more in this tier.
Just to respond, I have always been on one server which is Isle of Janthir. When the game first started we were in T1/T2 constantly. I got my exploration on my first character. I have been working on my second character. We have slipped in the standings and for 4-6 weeks (i lost count) we were constantly red and constantly fighting the same two other servers.
I can only say it’s doable no matter which server you are on and what tier you are on, it simply requires patience. Nothing in WvWvW stays static. I happen to very much enjoy WvWvW but I am simply stating that you can get it done no matter what. You have to simply stay patient.
So your solution is to play 24 hours a day and hope that the one or two keeps/towers that you need in T1 EB will at some point become available. Also, hoping that you can get there for the 5 minutes it stays in your possession? You don’t find that a bit silly?
There is patience and then there is stupidity. I think you know which case this scenario falls into. (not calling you stupid, just the concept of static maps)
Rotate colors and the problem is solved. Quick and easy.
you can also blame berserker’s gear for not having good survivability… i had runs in dungeon with people who do high damage once in a while when they are not too busy being downed because they don’t have toughness or vitality…
i sometimes wear my carrion exotic armor with superior runes of traveler in it and i do damage and don’t die because i have an high amount of health, and i don’t want to be blamed because i don’t die.
Those people are also bad. If they run an Omnomberry Ghost, they won’t be downed. I run full zerker set warrior and I rarely go down and if I do, it was to my own mistake. With the amount of crit I have, along with 66% change to heal myself on crits, there is NO excuse for a zerker warrior to go down unless they are cheap or lazy.
I know it’s often argued that map completion is optional. But I think it’s important to acknowledge it’s an achievement designed to appeal to PvE players, so it’s counter-intuitive to force them to PvP to do it
The achievement has not been designed to appeal to PvE players. It has been designed to appeal to players who enjoy PvE and WvW. Which, incidentally, is why it includes WvW.
Complaining about this is the same as saying “I don’t like Orr, it’s ugly, so I think it should not count for world completition”. If you want to explore the entire world, then explore the entire world.
I’m guessing that most of the people against removing this either got their achievement by abusing the daily transfer, or don’t play in T1 or T2.
I happen to love going into WvW and I can tell you that I am pretty certain that there are points that just will not be taken in T1. It just won’t happen. The population is too great to take the deepest parts of EB from some servers.
No, I will not pay to transfer to complete my world map on my characters. I also won’t transfer prior to the paid service with the fear that I cannot get back on it. Rotate the starting points weekly and you won’t have an issue. I’m just glad I finished my completion on my first character while on a lower pop server who dominated a specific tier. I won’t however, be able to complete any more in this tier.
I was also extremely worried about ever getting the skill point at the Altar of Lyssa in Malchor’s Leap. In order to get in there, you need a concerted effort of like 15-20 people to capture the Cathedral of Eternal radiance, then take down a boss or something in the center..
You do realize you can commune with that skill point from the side of the platform, not even having to kill a thing, right?
This is nothing even close to having to 100% a PvP map in a high tier server.
Getting crushed one round will then mean you get placed against opposition in the next tier down for the next round. My (former) server almost always dominated the next round and so I did the map exploration at that time before we got promoted again.
This is incorrect and a terrible example. Lower tier servers can certainly move around the positions. However, when you are in T1 or T2, there is very little map movement at all for starting positions.
If they want to make this transfer paid, they need to rotate the starting colors each week, plain and simple. There is no way to get some of these points in a T1, or to a lesser extent, T2 match unless you happen to be on that server.
The only character I was ever able to complete the map on was in T3 when one team got completely wiped off the map…that just doesn’t happen in higher tiers.
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Also, they can go outside a tower to fight w/o any recourse since they can just mist form thru the gate when down.
This, right here, needs fixed. The downed state is garbage as it is but to give any class a freebie “get inside the door while downed” ability, is trash.
I could care less about your level. If you have a good attitude and are up front about your experience in the dungeon you’d be welcome if I need other party members.
But you didn’t have to use it. You could have stayed down on the floor, off the little hill of rocks, and fight it.
I’m glad you are happy with the fix, but let’s not use the “group made me do it” defense.
I find it funny that so many people found the need to exploit a simple boss. Yes, his mechanic is boring. That doesn’t change the fact that you exploited it.
Funny how I read about all the crafting bans but not one of you that exploit fractals on a daily basis have been banned or warned.
It’s a gamble. What in the world were you expecting?
Those who get it within their first few tries are so happy and they’re lucky
Those who don’t get it whine and complain.I’ve thrown 300g worth of rares since release in the forge. And I haven’t got any precursors. Yet I don’t whine because I understood the low probability.
There is no probability, its all luck EG the players who get it in under 300 swords or even in under 100 swords. This is about luck which the game dishes out unequally.
You do realize your entire statement talks about mathmatical probability, correct? I’ve argued with Vol on other threads today but this one I have to agree with.