Guild Wars 2

sephyranna.3095:

The only thing that I really have a problem about rangers is that freaking pet leash. I’d be fighting a ranger then seeing that I can’t defeat him, run across the map, and that stupid pet will still be doing 2k dmg. While survivable, it’s still really annoying and plus I’m wasting heal skills to heal from that dumb damage. Those pets should have longer range than weapons but not long to the point where it can chase me to the other side of the map.

Turn around and kill the pet, He either lets it die, or Swaps it, and then it won’t be on you anymore cause he’s back at the point

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

There is no point to solo something if it is going to take more than 1 minute because you are wasting time.

Ranger signet is not even its heal skill, so they have two sources of healing.

Pets like the birds hit like a truck and melee range against the pet is hard to tell when it is attacking and when it is just flying around except for the F2.

Leashing across the map is ridiculous. If you look at pet stats they really are just another person.

The ranger meanwhile maintains evasion with sword set and bow set.
BM tank has at least 1.5k toughness so it is not even GC status.

When I ended up testing it a while back, Warriors actually had comparable if not better healing then the Ranger when specced with Healing power.

However unlike Warriors, Rangers can actually get away with it, as a Warrior you really can’t run Condition/Toughness/HP because your condition damage isn’t really as good as a Ranger. Cleric Builds might work, I’m honestly not completely sure on that…But It won’t be as powerful as the Condition of BM Bunker.

Volrath.1473:

I do play a Thief as main but i play other professions too and yes i have soloed bunkers.

Unfortunately i do not have a team since they all stopped playing… I do not have recording software nor a great computer but i’ll try fraping a few matches or duels with guildies if it doesn’t lower my fps to much…

btw haven’t you ever soloed a bunker speced profession?!

I’ve soloed bunker professions as BM Bunker, But only the Guardian is the easy one to bring down quickly, the Engineer and Elementalist both take a while (Well the Elementalist use to be quick but with confusion nerf not anymore)

Playing my Thief though, You’re not taking down a Bunker Guardian quickly, nor a the other two.

If a solo Thief could kill Bunkers in the back easy, the Bunker Meta wouldn’t exist.

The reason the Bunker in the back exist is because of how long it takes to kill an actual bunker..

Hence why you bring 2 people, And in this case, Bring a Heavy Condition and a Burster and you’ll kill the Ranger.

Volrath.1473:

Xsorus.2507:

Volrath.1473:

ok, got it!

So to kill any other profession a 1v1 fight is a balanced fight that will end with the victory of the better skilled / speced player!

As for Rangers, you need to bring some friends and one of them MUST be a necro, to be able to kill the ranger…

that sounds pretty balanced to me! what do you think?

Against a Bunker build, you’re going to need 2 people, It doesn’t matter which bunker build you’re fighting.

The optimal setup for killing a Ranger Bunker build is Necro + Burster

That isn’t to say you couldn’t do it with other, a Trap Ranger + Burster would also work for example… But you need someone to apply conditions heavily on the Ranger.

Engineer would work also, Well timed Supply Drop is death.

Sorry but all the other bunker speced professions are soloable, IF there is skill enough to counter them.

i.e. A guardian, if you keep enough pressure on them, remove boons and interrupt the heal, he dies.

i.e. An ele, dodge/evade they’re first attacks and apply condis/pressure dps to force them to get into water attunement, root/slow them right after. dead ele.

i.e. Engi, keep your distance, use ranged attacks and conditions, after he uses it’s heal then move in and spike them down. boon removal also helps allot.

Ranger… fight him until you die or until you are bored and go away…. -_-’ your skill has no play in this fight.

Rofl, You’re out of your mind if you think you’re going to be killing a bunker build 1v1 in this game unless you’re in fact a bunker build as well.

i tell you what, You make videos of yourself killing Bunker Builds 1v1 in TPvP and then post it in this thread.

You play a thief no less, now I know you’re out of your mind if you think you’re going to be able to kill a Ele and Engineer with range attacks

I’d rather watch Korea’s play Huttball then TPvP in this game

Volrath.1473:

ok, got it!

So to kill any other profession a 1v1 fight is a balanced fight that will end with the victory of the better skilled / speced player!

As for Rangers, you need to bring some friends and one of them MUST be a necro, to be able to kill the ranger…

that sounds pretty balanced to me! what do you think?

Against a Bunker build, you’re going to need 2 people, It doesn’t matter which bunker build you’re fighting.

The optimal setup for killing a Ranger Bunker build is Necro + Burster

That isn’t to say you couldn’t do it with other, a Trap Ranger + Burster would also work for example… But you need someone to apply conditions heavily on the Ranger.

Engineer would work also, Well timed Supply Drop is death.

Asomal.6453:

Xsorus.2507:

C. Birds don’t hit for 12k with Bunker build. They’ll pop you for 7k to 8k at most with the build, if you’re running full glass and in cloth.

Wow, wow, freaking just wow!! Do you really call that “balanced”!? You have a bunker spec dealing the same (if not more) damage than a pure glass cannon build.

And don’t even come with the excuse “oh but only hit that hard on GC nubs”. In the other way, they won’t hit you that hard. And that’s exactly what’s wrong with these super bunker builds!

They shouldn’t die so easily (1×1,2×1) but shouldn’t kill anything either! What we have right now, are those immortal ‘bunkers’ actually killing people, while it’s hard to take them down.

Now, compare the guardian/warrior/thief (forget the cap point)/engineer bunker vs the ranger and the old elementalist. You’ll won’t kill any of them alone, but they won’t kill you either, contrary to those OP bunker specs…

To hit for 7k-8k on BM Bunker build max, You have to pop Signet of the Hunt and Signet of the Wild while landing a double crit on Raven’s F2. You’re basically giving up your Regen (and speed unless you popped it prefight, which getting them both to land perfectly is hard as hell, and to be honest, You’d never pop Signet of the Wild in a fight as a BM Bunker Ranger, but it is possible which is why I said that’s the max)

Realistically we’re talking 6k Max on a double crit.

Now there are build that aren’t Bm Bunker that can actually approach the damage i listed (and might also be possible) but They’re not hard to kill in comparison.

OGDeadHead.8326:

Daecollo.9578:

They also made pets attack 2x faster/run faster/track better/ai is better.

Spreading misinformation hoping for nerfs so you get some easy kills won’t get you anywhere.
Some ppl are constructive in their posts here on the forums, and can be taken seriously. Then there are others, like you…

They don’t run any faster then they already did.

They track about the same, though they can hit a bit better.

The only thing they improved on Attacking Faster was Drakes really, Cats/Birds/Dogs which are standard in the BM build don’t really attack faster.

Hell even the HP/Toughness improvement isn’t that big of a deal cause unless you have people paying attention, You won’t kill the pet before he swaps it (Which by the way, if you need more information on that, Soon as he swaps pets, Kill that pet, as you’ll have 16 seconds to do with a BM Bunker build, you’ll disable a portion of his damage and his condition removal…though Necro + Burster is still the best for taking him down)

Rofl, This thread cracks me up.

A. Bunker Build has taken more nerfs then buffs since launch, We use to be much more powerful.

B. Signet of the Wild Regen’s? You realize that other classes with Health Regen actually get better value from theirs right? Warriors for example… Actually gets more from Healing power, same with Thieves… In SPVP it should be healing for about 125 a second, with 188 on Natural Healing every 3 seconds. Regen is a completely separate buff that can be countered other ways.

C. Birds don’t hit for 12k with Bunker build. They’ll pop you for 7k to 8k at most with the build, if you’re running full glass and in cloth.

D. As for Elementalist, They weren’t nerfed cause they were Bunker, They were nerfed because they were good at everything..and I mean everything, They had amazing mobility, amazing group support, amazing aoe, and good damage…BM Bunker build is good 1v1 and 1v2 in some cases, But is solely lacking in group fights and has nothing really for group support cept maybe Vigor and Healing Field.

If you want to kill a BM Bunker Ranger, someone here already suggested a good idea.

Bring a Condition Necro, don’t send a condition necro alone, cause he’ll die, But Bring one to 2v1 the Ranger down.

Basically any good Burster (Mesmer would work) to distract the Ranger while the Necro Kills…

Puandro.3245:

Its funny how you complain that you cant take 3 ppl at once anymore when really no kne should be winning a 1v2 due to downstate in this game. Most people are happy to win 1v1s 50% of the time lol. I do hate down state in WvW though, killing 8 people at once with proper kiting like in DAoC? Not with downstate you wont.

Anyways stuns usually arent longer than a second so im not a fan of the AC bread. I edited my Ranger spec tonight and hopefully soon ill get to try it out in WvW.

Not really complaining about it, But i’m pointing out what my limit is now. I mean to kill 3people they’d have to be idiots flat out cause like you said, The Downstate. In 3v1’s I can easily down someone fairly easy, But stomping on them is basically impossible.

Hell even in 2v1s It can be hard to stomp someone since one person can rez faster then I can stomp, which is the dumbest system i’ve seen in PvP to date.

Stuns also don’t have to be long, But most of the heavy bursters in this game stun you usually before they do it.

Thieves with basilisk venom, Mesmer’s, 100b Warriors, Even some Engineer’s

The best one though is Basilisk Venom, which basically becomes a 20% Damage nerf for the thief whenever they use it.

I have Melandru on my armor, and i also don’t run Rare Veggie Pizza anymore (dropped it after they gutted PI, Now just using Mango’s cause the heal is pretty nice)

Only reason i’m really even using Melandru is the fact that it has toughness on it and i’m to lazy to get Superior Rune of the Forge from dungeons (10 seconds of protection at 50% life? yes please)

But anyway, as someone who’s ran the Melandru and Lemongrass setup before all the cool kids decided it’d be fun to try it…I have to ask..How long before they realize lemon grass isn’t actually the best thing to run with Melandru.

Loaf of Saffron Bread my friends… You give up slightly on the Condition Duration Reduction in exchange of making you kitten near unkillable while stunned/knocked down (which is when the huge burst comes usually)

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Loaf_of_Saffron_Bread

Way Way better then lemongrass.

Anyway, I’m working on another massive movie right now, and ive offset my huge loss in AOE damage from losing PI with using Drakes now (which are actually a lot more manageable now that the F2 casts faster)

So my kill speed has actually improved again, I’m still having trouble with 3’s though…That seems to be my limit, 2 I can win against, 3’s they have to be stupid.

I’m collecting movies right now …I’m thinking that I’ll be able to finally get upgraded movie length on the 14th, if I do..I’m going to make a very long movie.

Though I’m doing a podcast this coming week and they wanted to use some of the video in it.

One of my favorite fights though in the new movie i’m working on is Me vs an Elementalist vs a thief.

The Thief is like POed from earlier when i killed him so he’s basically stuck on me most of the fight while I chase the bunker Ele Around, every now and again I turn around to attack the thief so I can drop him quickly but he gets away..I eventually catch the kitten ele though and get her…Was a fun fight..

They’ve really only updated a few pets, and most of the updates have come from Vit/Toughness, and if you ever fought a BM before, you weren’t going to kill his pet anyway as he’d just swap it out before you did enough damage.

The biggest change i’d say is the reduced cast time on Drakes F2 abilities… but a BM today is still a BM from 5 months ago…Only now some have more toughness…

Just be thankful you didn’t run into the Pain Inverter version of BM.

Clerics gets gutted by Protection and Toughness, but yea… You’ll probably kill Glassy people fairly fast with it, but at the same time, If they’re specced glass, Condition is going to mow through them as well.

Glass Specced people really aren’t that much of a challenge.

Some people take a while to kill, but even against the people that can shred conditions you can still kill them fairly fast as BM Bunker if you catch them at the right moment.

Generally we apply conditions so quickly and so many that for example, Elementalist can rarely go on the offense and spend most of the time bouncing back to water as much as possible so they don’t instantly die.

I’ve played T1, unless its something like a P/D thief, Condition Removal won’t be a problem because the way BM Bunker build is designed is to apply lots of conditions very quickly with a very short cooldown.

The only class that really could keep it off for a long time was a Elementalist, which was still a joke to fight as a BM Bunker build.

Thieves can do it if they spec for it, But they tend to all go D/P now, which is an absolute joke to fight (They don’t do enough burst to bring you down, and alot of them aren’t running the condition removal with it cause they want init gain)

The main problem you’re going to have in T1 if you do decide to play there isn’t Condition removal in 1v1’s..Its you getting absolutely stomped 24/7 by big zergs..

Yea, I should of honestly editted out the Thief vs Ranger part simply because it was boring.

I mainly made the short movie cause of the people at the end.

BM Bunker has been around since last year..

Its not really changed all that much.

Cept people might use Signet of Stone vs Lightning Reflex now.

Hell in world vs world i’m actually weaker now then I was month’s ago.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/BM-Bunker-Build-Guide/first#post1845851

MB feels like a PVE talent, I use to be a big supporter of it, but the water reset is what made me change my mind..

Causic.3798:

Introducing Traps in World vs. World
“Traps are fiendish items that can be purchased from the new Traps and Tricks Outfitters on each WvW map. We’re starting with anti-stealth fields and traps that remove supply from enemy players, but in the months ahead we’ll introduce even more ways to spread mayhem in the Mists!”

Get More Out of WvW
“We’re improving the way we award World XP to World vs. World players! Now you’ll gain rewards for a much wider range of activities in the Mists – everything from destroying siege weapons, repairing walls, escort missions, and more.”

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/may-14-2013/#new-features-5

What do you guys think?

I love how everyone is ignoring the part about getting WXP from everything out there..I’m sure that’ll improve the game a lot grin

More to the point, Zerging already gives way more WXP over killing someone in a 1v1, now someone escorting supply dolyaks will get more WXP over someone actually killing another person in a fight.

Yea, Weakness/chill is incredibly powerful.

I think people are viewing this video as standard play, You can see how offensive I got with the Guardians vs the Thief. I don’t sit around really throwing my Axe a whole lot and its mostly weapon swapping.

reason i did it with the thief is Its a no win situation. I can go in and be more offensive, and watch him just C/D my pet over and over again and heal up while bleeding me, or I can play more defensive while hoping I get lucky and get him low enough to do a quick burst with the Bird and Conditions…That’s really my only options.

Cempa.5619:

build for regen and never worry about anything other than a mesmer again.

Really? i find mesmer’s to be one of my guaranteed kills

Most mesmer’s out there don’t run any sort of Condition Removal, so just keep applying conditions while dodging their damage and you should win.

garethh.3518:

@Sebrent.3625

The worst bad math uses correct math to imply something that isn’t entirely spot on.

You may not have intended it? but what you wrote heavily over-implied what a vigor trait can do for the ranger.

Xsorus.2507:

As for Axe vs Shortbow, I have no power or precision, trust me when I say that it doesn’t matter which weapon i have…My damage is going to be god awful.

Remember, this BM Bunker is Condition Based, not Power based… You’ll have about the same luck as landing Splitblade on a thief as you do landing a Bow attack from the Side or Behind the target.

Axe isn’t a beastmaster esque weapon, sword and shortbow tend to be much more favorable as they let you kite more since pets are your main source of dmg.

As a sidenote,
Landing splitblades is easiest against thieves, blind only eats one hit so even blackpowder can’t stop it.

Didn’t know that about Blackpowder with splitblade, that’s useful information, Though i don’t have much trouble with the D/P thieves…

P/D regen thieves are the ones I can’t personally kill most of the time, I couldn’t even do that with PI, they were just able to regen health back up to full whenever they stealth, which i could never really stop.

Not that they could kill me either, some could, but it usually ended in a draw.

Shortbow just is blah, I’m not changing from Axe/Torch for Shortbow esp for a spec that I wouldn’t be able to kill anyway with shortbow.

Durzlla.6295:

Sebrent.3625:

I may have. I’ve thrown so much math around on these forums it’s hard to keep track of it and I refuse to make a thread to compile it all :-p

MB build? You mean BM?

nope MB, masters bond.

I use to love Master’s Bond, but the fact that I swap pets so much, and the fact i have to enter the way so much makes it completely unviable in world vs world.

Zenith.7301:

This just show what a disgrace pets are. That duel with the thief would have probably been easier if you were just allowed to stow your pet.

That thief just used your pet on demand for cloak and dagger healing, and the pet rarely got to hit the thief since it became kitten everytime he stealthed and the time it took it to get and hit the thief the thief just kited it or went into stealth, leaving the pet dumbfounded again.

Cloak and dagger should not work on pets/minions, it’s just a ridiculous penalty to classes that rely on those mechanisms.

Also, axe damage was atrocious, you barely scratched that thief with the auto, and because he knew to dodge axe chill and always kept a distance so splitblade couldn’t land, the only thing you hit him with was throw torch, which he healed off with stealth.

I seriously question the effectiveness of axe/offhand vs. shortbow now that I’ve played so many tpvp games. The shortbow just sustains a lot more damage, and for how situational splitblade is and how generous the flanking arc is on shortbow, it’s really a matter of bringing an offhand to make up for that terrible axe mainhand sustained.

Also, ravens have a very large wind up on their attack animations, making them easy to kite. Dogs would have probably been better this duel, especially the wolf. Even jaguar would have worked because you can have him stealth when you are expecting the thief to go for a cloak and dagger.

I use to think stowing my pet would help, but then i’d just lose a regen and my ability to get rid of conditions, not actually worth it.

As for Axe vs Shortbow, I have no power or precision, trust me when I say that it doesn’t matter which weapon i have…My damage is going to be god awful.

Remember, this BM Bunker is Condition Based, not Power based… You’ll have about the same luck as landing Splitblade on a thief as you do landing a Bow attack from the Side or Behind the target.

I run signet of the hunt, so not a problem.

I’ll try drakes out today or tomorrow, been a while since I fooled with them.

only in SPvP

in world vs world, you only get 1

AlexRD.7914:

Why is your bonfire so big?

Offhand Training, which you should be using in a bunker build if you have 2 offhand weapons.

jcbroe.4329:

I realize what I’m about to mention is a pvp environment, but I’ve been watching Battosai use Drakes to an effect. I find their ability to hit moving players questionable, but I’m guessing the drake f2s are a tad easier to land now, and the river drake breath has the potential to do a ton of damage if you can set it up (I’m assuming through axe chill/dagger cripple, making sure the dodges are spent).

i’d be willing to try it out, I’ve not played a whole lot with them since the patch.

I do need extra AOE damage cause like I said, I took such a massive hit this patch against 2 or greater groups….

I use to be able to hit 3 people, and if they’re glass cannon, almost instantly kill them with Entangle/Bonfire/PI.

Now I can’t do that anymore.

You might be right garethh on cats though just because I do believe my damage is lacking after the patch. I might try and run cats for a bit, or pigs (yea i’m curious) just for fun.

I’ve switched in and out on them before..But I never really had the need for the damage increase though…now I feel I kill slower, and its making 1vs2 and 3 fights much harder.

Sebrent.3625:

With +0%, it will take you 10s to get 50 endurance to dodge roll

With +50%, it will take you 6.6s repeating (so 7s) to get enough endurance to dodge roll

With +100%, it will take you 5s to get enough endurance to dodge roll.

I’d say that Vigor is most definitely useful.

When you can’t get/keep vigor, 7s is better than 10s. When you can, 5s is great and much better than 7s.

When you look at this in a prolonged fight, it’s even better.

Math is fun … and useful.

interesting thanks for doing the math on it.

garethh.3518:

Xsorus.2507:

I went and checked, Now i may be blind, but i’m pretty sure it stacks…It looks much faster with Vigor up then without.

With ‘natural vigor’ passive, endurance recharges 50% faster.
With vigor up, endurance recharges 100% faster.

With ‘natural vigor’ and vigor up, endurance recharges 100% faster.
(from everything I’ve seen)
Meaning, vigor is only a 33% endurance regen bump for rangers (if you know how to math) not the full 100% other classes get.

PS: I’m pretty sure ‘natural vigor’ only works while in combat and you don’t need 10 points in skirmishing to get a jaguar.

PSS: My initial post was ironic. The guardians were some of the worst anyone here has probably seen, yet I was critiquing you… guess its a bit too long for me to keep acting like I’m serious, since you seemingly aren’t going to catch the flavor of it all.

Your original post no longer exists, only reason i saw it was cause someone replied to it.

I saw you were critiquing me.

I get what you’re saying, I’d still prefer to have Vigor just based on the fact it is an increase.

More Dodge is More Dodge far as i’m concerned.

Jaguar is alright, but without the 30% crit talent I don’t think its as good as birds (esp with vigor buff)

garethh.3518:

jewishjoyride.4693:

One reason to use birds over cats is the X trait in beastmastery. Vigorous training. It grants 5 sec of aoe vigor on pet swap when running birds or moas. Not sure if you noticed but Xsorus was running that in this video.

The 5 point ranger trait ‘natural vigor’ doesn’t stack with vigor making ranger, easily, the worst class on which to knock parts of your spec off for inconsistent vigor buffs.

I don’t run Jaguar cause i’m not 10 points in skirmishing.
You can use Signet of Renewel if you want, I personally like the 180 extra toughness now
I don’t always land split blade, But I still prefer it over Bow cause of the Weakness/Chill

Also are you sure about that? I’m certain it stacks but I’ll have to log in check it, You may be completely right though. Though I know vigor doesn’t stack with the food if I remember correctly.

edit

I went and checked, Now i may be blind, but i’m pretty sure it stacks…It looks much faster with Vigor up then without.

Ascii.9726:

To be honest, that duel needed to be interrupted, almost 10 mins of 0 damage and 100% regen.

I recommend dueling north of Speldan camp, i almost never get interrupted there when i’m 1v1ing the deers.

Yea I was roaming when I came across the thief, that’s where he wanted to duel actually.

But yea, Heavily Regen Ranger + Heavy Regen Pistol Thief = Stagnant fight.

Even with PI int he build it would of been an exercise of frustration because If I manage to get him low he can easily stealth and kitten near heal to full (I know he can do this because I can do this on my Thief).

Since I have a Pet as a Ranger, Unlike most classes I can’t just starve him of Init by dodging at the right moment so he waste’s C/D, He’ll simply hit my pet every time.

The only reasonable way I’d have to actually kill a Thief like this would be if I actually ran a bow, which I don’t. Its just one of those classes that i’d have trouble actually killing but won’t be able to kill me.

In reality, Most non glass cannon thieves only die anyway in 1v1’s cause they get over confident.

Zumy.6318:

Dont take this wrong. But after a boring duel, because both are way too defensive (good for soloroaming and killing 1vsX pugs), two of the four classes with the most overpowered 1v1 builds kill two hammer/staffguardians. What also takes them forever (see above).

So: I dont get your point.

The thief doesnt do much but cleanse his conditions and fail to sneak attack you and you just keep evading, hoping for your pet to land one proper burst. I mean you did not even use your signets.

Ehh, Do you have any idea how Signets on a Ranger actually work?

Fjandi.2516:

Lol. The video clearly proves 2 things to be almost universally true:
-most players with legendary weapons are bad
-most guardians are garbage

Rofl, is it bad I don’t notice if they’re using a Legendary because I have no clue what most legendaries actually look like.

1v1 Duel with a SoS thief when shenanigans happens

ended up recording this very long 1v1 with a thief, and shenanigans happens mid fight

RyuDragnier.9476:

Wait…people actually used PI while as a Ranger?

Before the nerf, It was the best skill in the game for a BM Bunker build.

scanz.4536:

Nice idea Xsorus. Do like the builds you continue to come up with for us Rangers, but my only issue with them is that you make use of racial skills which are not available to all of us. Would like to see a bit more vitality and at least 3k armour, could probably drop the crit dmg/chance a bit for this.

If you want to just run a Greatsword Maul build.

Do 30/20/20/0/0 and swap Technobabble for Signet of the Stone, everything else can stay the same.

Its a fairly good damage build, I mean its no BM bunker in 1v1, But you’re good in zerg fights and small manning while being able to hold your own in 1v1.

Indoles.1467:

You could optimize the crit damage aspect of your build by mixing and matching gear types, but other than that, very solid build. Very similar to what I used to run before the quickness nerf (forced these damage builds to take more defense).

Onto the crit optimization, glove, boots, and shoulderpads only cost 12 stat point per 1% crit damage when compared to rings, ad exotic backpieces which cost 16 points.

I mostly did my armor that way cause I could buy it all with Karma and didn’t have to spend much gold if any

Sylvari Rangers actually have an incredibly powerful ability for Greatsword Maul Rangers

In fact if you’re going to make a Greatsword high crit build, I recommend choosing Sylvari just for Grasping Vines, It doesn’t do damage, which is important, because its a root that lets you lineup Maul on the Target, and it won’t waste the 50% damage bonus of Signet of the Hunt like Entangle Will.

Humans can use Hounds of Balthazarr for some extra burst.

Blah, posting so it rolls over.

Don’t avoid using Axes/Torch/Swords/Daggers just cause it says Ranger..

They’re some of our best weapons.

Hell Sword/Dagger for Ranger is one of the best setups in the game across all classes

So they ended up nerfing my Pain Inverter Ability pretty bad.

I’ve now moved over to a more Defensive Setup

This is not fun to fight against.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=VF;5Fku-g2NxV-0;9V8E;1TT4-437A09B;7I-k3;9-N0Gk0-35;2VNVSWXXb2h3n_5iWQ-5V07V-17V;9;9;9;7kkkkkk;9;0V8k3P

This is the full build i used, it includes all the Weapon/Armor/Jewelry/Spec/Food/Sigils/Runes

I find the build to be better for small manning the 1v1 or 1vsX, It lacks a good safety ability like Signet of the Stone (which I would go from 30/30/5/0/5 to 30/20/20/0/0 and drop Techno for Signet of the Stone)

However if you run with a Group, this build can be a pain in the kitten for people as Technobabble is a 4 Second Daze…. and you have 2 more + pets you can use as well. Meaning you can Chain CC someone to death.

Think of it like a Fear Build from Necros, but instead Rangers with Daze.

This would be a good Assist Build.

Copy and Paste the link by the way

Alright for stomping, and some small quick burst, you could probably do without it though.

Honestly if i’m not running technobabble, I’m running 30/20/20 as its a far better build now