Guild Wars 2

personally i laughed hard when i saw them talking about Kzar Zerg from DAOC heheh

Man that guy could Zerg

but yea, props on running a unique build.

I was trying to come up with a Cleric Build earlier today similar to this, but it was no where near this fleshed out. But yea, very good video.

Ooh, a unique build, going to watch this video.

I would like LoS on Tab Targeting, Nothing is more annoying then it targeting some mob 2 miles behind me instead of the dude standing right in front of me.

I’d make Pigs F2 work like Thief Steal, and just give us the ability in our F2 Slot

Hmm, You’re running a Power Based Weapon Setup with a Condition Based Gear Set.

I’d use Clerics Armor with that setup vs Apothecary.

Could consider Superior Rune of the Forge Also.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Rune_of_the_Forge

lLobo.7960:

One thing about the weapon sigils.
Do you need one “on weapon swap” sigil on each weapon? It seems to me they trigger both when swapping to and out of the weapon.

Might need to test this again when I get back home…

I don’t know, i’ll test that.

With no condition removal the only thing that’d really give Paundro trouble would probably be HGH Engineers like he said, and P/D thieves (which you honestly don’t see a lot of those anymore, they’re mostly S/D and D/P)

Condition Mesmer’s might be tough though, it’d really depend on running Melandru and Lemongrass or Saphron Bread..If he ran those, he honestly shouldn’t have much trouble.

Narya Firering.9301:

Very nice video. I posted a recap of your main points here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/GW2_Guild/comments/1f3msr/ranger_build_bunker_beastmaster/

[Let me know if I misrepresented something; I simplified a few points]

Yeap, you got most of it, Armor and runes you can do Melandru/Forge/Dwyana as well.

Food Mango/Lemongrass also work depending on setup.

Healing Spring or Troll Ungent depending on what you’re doing. But yea everything else is correct.

BM Bunker Build has 3 variants, I talk about them in the movie…

But the mostly center on your pet choice.

I use to believe there was only 2 variants, but over time I now see that 3 are available.

First one is 10/0/30/0/30, this increases condition duration, This is the build you’d probably want to run if you did Spiders of Dogs, as you’d be able to stack cripple and immobilize fairly high up in duration (Believe the Spider one is around 4 seconds with this duration, maybe longer)

Second one is 0/10/30/0/30, This one is designed around pretty much all the DPS pets that aren’t Birds, Drakes/Cats (Dogs can also take this one as well). They get the most benefit going this setup.

Last one is Birds, which is pretty standard, 0/0/30/10/30. All the pets can choose this line, but Birds would best with it.

TooBz.3065:

Hey Xsorus,

Just wanted to say that my Ranger was my first toon, but had been relegated to ore collecting duty (He was literally wearing a blue coat, pants, boots, and a hat.)

I tried out your build and the ranger is fun again. (Well, a variant, passiflora jewelry is crazy expensive.) I burn through PvE very quickly. I even took him for a spin in WvW. I have never killed anyone so fast.

Thanks!

BM Bunker is very good for solo PVE and Solo World vs World that’s true.

Kravick.4906:

Very informative guide. Thanks for posting this!

I have just one question. I’ve seen a variation where people will go sword/torch axe/dagger instead. What is your opinion on using that combination instead of what you’ve got slotted?

Like Fuj said, its preference.

I prefer Sword/Dagger cause I think it feels better and Axe/Torch cause I like a Midrange weapon set.

DevonCarver.5370:

Kraken.7514:

Well WvW is PvP (I hope), and pvp is in fact killing other players.

So indeed I think killing players should be rewarded more than any other thing.

I hope you are meaning the way in which you kill those players.

We should absolutely try to penalize somehow the zergy gameplay while incentive the medium and small scale pvp.

Am I wrong with this assumption?

WvW is about more than just PvP. Winning in WvW requires people building things, repairing walls, scouting, escorting dolyaks, etc. We want to continue to improve the rewards for doing those things as they facilitate the rest of your server capturing locations and killing foes. If you are helping to win the match, we want you to see rewards for that.

WvW is about more than just PvP? There a whole lot of people PvEing out there?

Also the things you listed you don’t actually reward people for in comparison to just tagging as many people as possible in a Zerg.

There is a reason all the people on the higher rank servers are high rank, Its because they’re zerging around tagging as many people as possible….It requires virtually no skill to do this.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Anyone-else-tempted-to-get-Apoth-Gear/first#post812400

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Thoughts-on-my-World-vs-World-Ranger-Build-i-ve-been-running/first#post608398

My personal favorite quote back then was

Healing Power is atrocious and stacks terribly. Stay away from it – far away from it!

DevonCarver.5370:

We agree that the rate is simply too slow right now and the build next week will make some major adjustments to that. And we will continue to analyze the data after that and make more changes as necessary. In addition we will be continuing to find ways to reward players who are doing more than just running around and killing other players.

You’re not actually rewarding players for running around and killing other players..

You’re rewarding people running around and tagging as many people as possible before they die to someone else.

I can kill tons of people all day long 1v1 and 1vsX, I can take multiple supply camps and kill multiple dolyaks….

However I can run around on my thief, and do nothing but fire Choking Gas at zergs and i’ll get far more WXP then the guy who was actually winning fights, taking camps ect ect…

style.6173:

PinCushion.7390:

In GW2 WvW is about taking and defending strategic points using siege and supply.

Unfortunately true. That’s why WvW has been renamed ACvAC

In daoc the players were the arrow carts

PinCushion.7390:

Straegen.2938:

PinCushion.7390:

In DAoC, small groups won against large groups through intelligent use of lag, group composition, bursting tactics (when I played it was 3 PBAoE classes stacked on each other or 3 2-hander users focusing down one person at a time), buff bots, AoE CC, and stacking group-healers/endurance buffers to keep everything running quickly and smoothly.

In DAOC smaller groups won through effective use of control abilities. Stuns, dazes and the like had no limit so a big group could easily be at the mercy of a few well timed stuns. I think ANet should remove the target cap for stuns. I get why it is there for AoE, but stacking would become really dangerous with this change.

Until my old computer died, I had a screenshot saved of my group killing about 50 other people because we zoomed into them while they were huddled on top of each other (hooray for /follow). Our bard landed an amazing mez and we just AoEed them all to death in about 10 seconds. They couldn’t really react to us because of lag (we had stood on a hill watching them so all their models would load up in advance).

While that was a lot of fun for me, I can’t imagine it was a lot of fun for those 50 people. From my perspective we did all this planning, group makeup, and positioning. From their perspective they were trying to get into a keep, their computers froze for a second, and then they were dead. Honestly, I’m glad that gameplay is much harder to pull off in GW2.

If you didn’t pan you deserved to get dive bombed in that game.

Hell this was even more stressed later on when they provided the zerg things like Speedwarp.

PinCushion.7390:

Currently, small groups win against large groups through intelligent use of siege and terrain.

In DAoC, small groups won against large groups through intelligent use of lag, group composition, bursting tactics (when I played it was 3 PBAoE classes stacked on each other or 3 2-hander users focusing down one person at a time), buff bots, AoE CC, and stacking group-healers/endurance buffers to keep everything running quickly and smoothly.

GW2 removed most of that list, and pulled the teeth out of the rest of it. Bursting tactics don’t work as well because of the downed state and the AoE cap. AoE CC is far shorter in duration, and requires far more coordination. Healing is far more distributed and requires a lot more coordination and planning (so much that most people don’t bother).

What GW2 added was siege. They’ve tweaked it, and will continue to do so. Even so, what hasn’t changed is the idea that keeps, supply, and siege must be important in WvW. That was a huge failing in DAoC. Most of RvR consisted of roaming around Emain and fighting people to harvest points, with little consideration of what structures belonged to whom. Occasionally there’d be a keep siege just to shake things up, but it wasn’t a necessity. Less frequently there’d be a Relic Raid, but they took forever and didn’t really change much. Owning relics provided incredibly minor bonuses, so if you didn’t own them it didn’t really effect you all that much. The only siege engines that mattered were rams, for the most part.

ANet obviously determined that this was a huge failing on Mythic’s part, and endeavored to fix it. Most of the WvW rankings give you bonuses to siege, and none of them offer advantages to actually fighting people. Far more WXP is rewarded for taking or defending structures than for racking up kills. Unlike DAoC, properly placed siege often swings fights. Unlike DAoC, ownership of keeps is incredibly important and changes where people are fighting and who we’re fighting.

TL – DR Version:

In DAoC RvR was about getting kills as efficiently as possible. Keeps and siege were largely incidental, to the point where many players actively avoided keep warfare.

In GW2 WvW is about taking and defending strategic points using siege and supply.

Ehh, I played DAOC from the start, and I can tell you keep warfare wasn’t ignored at all because it was one of the best places to Farm Realm Points.

New Frontiers when it was released a prime example of farming for Low population servers, Midgard Merlin when dealing with the Larger populated Albion server would deal with it by taking a single tower in the Albion lands, Not a keep….not even a useful tower, We’d always take one that allowed the enemy to port. They out numbered us by quite a large amount….So the entire Zerg of Midgard that we had would sit in this tower, and wait for the Albion Response, and sure enough.. they’d show up… get farmed a couple times then rage quit and thats when we’d start taking other Structures in the area. I could rack up a large amount of Realm Points solo doing this as a DarkCarver Runemaster (My zerging toon)….Its about like Zerg Surfing in this game, Use Lots of AOE to target lots of people, At least in DAOC I actually had to do damage to get the most Realm Points.

As for roaming in Emain, That depends…If you were an 8 man it was about Roaming, however soloing and zerging in Emain tended to focus on controlling the 2 Main Keeps out there, Or Controlling a Milegate.

Relics didn’t provide minor bonus’s They provided 20% Melee Damage increase and 20% Magic Damage (Plus healing) increase if you had all 6, that was fairly major.

As for Siege, depends..Early on I agree that Rams only mattered, Catapults though could be quite nasty during New Frontier’s, Though I admit most people chose not to actually use them to their full effectiveness, But They were one of the ways I dealt with groups camping the bridges in NF time…..Hib groups were very prone to camping Bled Bridge for example, and the best way to deal with them was to build like 6 or 7 catapults outside the bridge ammo and load up a bunch of special ammo (fire or ice)…..300 damage isn’t alot in that game, 300 damage hitting you every few seconds by 6-7 catapults that can hit through walls though… is…

I’m not sure about SPvP, but its pretty awful in World vs World…Not because the Pets aren’t good, but because they randomly stop attacking.

You can watch any of my necro videos to give you an idea how they work in World vs World.

JonPeters.5630:

timidobserver.7925:

I have a couple of serious questions.
1. Did the person that came up with the math for this graduate from high school.
2. To prove it, please upload a copy of your high school diploma.

How about just a copy of their resume. I don’t see his high school experience on there. Hopefully the other stuff can count as relevant experience for your assessment.

http://www.glicko.net/cv.html

You realize when this system fails, which it probably will….You just made a new Meme for the internet right?

I’ll talk about Rangers, and this probably holds true to Ele’s as well since they’re kind of in the same boat.

You see BM Bunker Rangers in SPvP because other then Trap Build, there is nothing else..

We can’t go full glass cannon and do very well like Mesmer/Thief can… Hell even balanced build wise (Knights) we’re pretty awful in comparison.

So you build as defensive as possible or you go for Traps..Its probably the same reason you don’t see Glass Cannon Ele’s in TPvP, because the class doesn’t support it.

I’m sorry you died to these classes 1v1 and you hate bunkers, but bring a friend, they built defensive so you shouldn’t expect to easily mow over then 1v1 very quickly.

The Lack of Bomb Groups, and Speed.

That can sum up most of GW2 WvW problems and why Zergs are so prevalent in this game.

Now you maybe wondering about the Speed part, and why I include that as a problem with this game.

Its really simple..Because like Real Life, Speed plays a part in how fast you can move an army across a set distance. In Real life, usually the larger the army you had the slower your army was. Its why you had scouting parties and smaller forces able to cover distances quicker

DAOC covered this with Skalds/Minstrels/Bards and to the lesser extent Caster Speed, This let groups move across the map very quickly, However when moving a Zerg across a map in DAOC, not every group had a skald/minstrel/bard, Hell most weren’t even grouped at all, This meant while you had the advantage of numbers as a Zerg, you lacked the speed to catch smaller groups and forces that actually had speed. This allowed Smaller population Realms to take objectives quicker then the zerg could react.

It also allowed Bomb Groups to be in the game. Which was a counter to Zergs, Moving a group in very quickly and broadsiding large numbers and blowing them up was how you dealt with these Massive Zergs. This made moving a Slow Moving zerg across a map much more dangerous then it is in this game.

Which is part of the problem with this game.

You have an AOE cap that limits bomb groups, and you had Swiftness available easily and readily to large number of people by simply throwing it down. This allow Zergs to move just as quickly as smaller groups across the map..Hell sometimes the zerg actually moves faster cause they have more Swiftness Available.

Throw in smaller issues like the Downed System/Rallying and the abundance of AOE buffs and you have the quagmire you have right now where Smaller Population Servers are always going to lose to larger population servers, and Zerging is the primary tactic and meta of World vs World as it yields the most reward with little to no negatives…

Anet talked about DAOC before GW2 was released, and how they took the fundamental idea of it and made World vs World, yet at the same time…They’ve failed so many times on the core basics of that game that honestly shouldn’t of been changed if you were trying to copy it. They worked in that game, Hell the game itself may have been a fluke by Mythic, but what they got right, they bloody got right..

I predict whatever server had the higher score before the change up will win whatever matchup they’re placed in

grin

Cause you know… adding range to a matchup system like this doesn’t magically spawn more coverage..

This new system doesn’t sound like its really changing anything..

The only thing its changing is who’s in green slot kicking the crap out of the other 2 teams

Johje Holan.4607:

I don’t understand the latest conversation. Why would moving a fairly large NA guild to SoS (an Oceanic server) be a bad idea? That is exactly what SoS needs – NA people. Its a good move for the guild and a good move for the server.

SoS is leading because CD and SBI cannot keep up with the Oceanic times. Sure they may be leading even more with more NA presence. But to compete well in T3, they are goning to need that NA presence.

(I’m on SBI and would welcome more people moving here to my server of course but I’m not going to criticize someone for moving to a server that makes sense for their guild. I say welcome and I hope to get to meet them in battle.)

Because it won’t help the competition of the matchup.

The only thing that will hapkitten they’ll move up in ranking, which will cause one of the other servers to drop down, But those servers are just like SoS right now, vastly outnumbering CD and SBI….so they’ll be doing what SoS is now, dominating with numbers alone.

Having 4 servers with similar population isn’t helpful when only 3 can be in a matchup.

Chris.3290:

Wait….You transferred to the Green high population server in a pairing with a 150+ people?

sighs takes my riding crop to go beat the horse’s bones that are bleaching in the sun.

If this were 5 months ago when we were #1 in Tier 1, your logic would make a shred of sense.
However, we are the number 10 server now and will soon move up to Tier 3 (even sooner now with the generous assistance of our welcome transfers). As the matchup stands right now, CD and SBI will never beat SoS with our numerical superiority in Oceanic players.
If nothing else you should be hoping that we get many more transfers so that we move on and don’t drop back down when we do go.

If nothing else, you should REALLY be encouraging people (from other servers you are not likely to be facing) to transfer to us because with next week’s change to the rating system. You’ll be facing us every other week, with a more dynamic system like they are promising, unless we are able to fight at parity with YB and Mag.

In return, we’ll work hard to make sure YB goes down here, and you can face a pure NA server, and find a whole new set of excuses to lose; or pick yourselves up and beat them.

I don’t think you quite understand the World vs World system, whoever you knock down is going to be as equally overpopulated as SoS was in this Tier, Nothing will be changing for the other 2 servers in this Tier if you get more players, The only thing that will be changing is who is sitting in green’s shoes…

So you’re actually not doing this tier any favors what so ever other then making it more unbalanced by having more servers with a certain population level when only 3 can fit in that grouping.

For instance, Lets say you have 6 Servers, 2 servers with 250 people each, 1 with 450 each, and 3 with 600 each.

Having the 1 with 450 get an extra 150 people and become 600 people doesn’t help the issue at all, It only makes the issue worse, So now we have 4 Servers trying for a spot of 3 openings.

It would of been better off transferring to CD or SBI and increasing the competition.

Hopefully the new ranking system though fixes this issue…Though I doubt it, But don’t pretend you did anything remotely useful for this tier, other then making yourself look sad.

ko killer.3692:

Looks like Cd isn’t the only one to get a guild transfer yesterday. ORL from BP has began the process of transferring members to SoS just last night, although we don’t have the 300+ that KWBH has, we should be looking at 150+ coming in the next few days. We look forward to fighting KWBH and the other servers during NA primetime. Once again thanks to the SoS community for being so welcoming, we also enjoy the 3 servers unique play styles! You all have definitely brought our interest back into WvW as it was getting dreadful in tier 5. Best wishes to all servers involved in this tier gl and have fun!

Wait….You transferred to the Green high population server in a pairing with a 150+ people?

You realize how pathetic that makes you look as a guild right?

Is it possible to run a Cleric Based Power Bunker build in the Zerg with a Ranger, Yes..

However i don’t think people quite understand what i’m saying when I say BM Bunker build isn’t amazing in Zerg Fights.

I can go into a Zerg fight on my BM Bunker Build, I can kill people in a Zerg fight with BM Bunker Build..

However if you’re zerging around, It honestly doesn’t matter what build you’re really running on your Ranger.

Only 2 Things Matter in a Zerg.

A. Your Zerg being the Zerg that is pushing (If you’re the one pulling back, you’re going to lose the fight..The Zerg that Pushes is the one that wins the fight)

B. How many people you can tag with AOE, and i don’t mean actually kill, I mean just Tag… Cause if you’re in the situation in the A. group… And you’re pushing your damage honestly doesn’t matter….Those people are going to die…All you need to do is hit as many as possible so you can get as much World XP and Bags as possible.

And B. Group is why BM Bunker isn’t that great…We only have a few AOE’s, and they’re on long timers…Hell even Power build Rangers aren’t super great..We have Barrage basically with Long bow….Traps are short range and frankly are a pain to land on a fleeing group of people…

This is why I laugh everytime I see someone talking about how Bad Thieves are in a Zerg for example..

a Class that has a Monster AOE (Dagger Storm) and the ability to fire off Multiple Poison Fields (Shortbow) that can tag multiple people…Its one of the best classes in the game to Zerg on..but people act like “Well it has no group utility” completely missing the point of how Zerg Fights play out.. or what Mechanics actually yield the biggest gain.

To answer your original question, I could run apothecary gear… Pop on Longbow and probably pull the same amount of Bags/WXP you can despite doing vastly less damage…

If you want to Zerg, build for the max number of targets you can hit.

JakobGW.5730:

Xsorus.2507:

I fought that Mesmer you mentioned earlier in the thread, a couple times..Killed him and then he switched specs and we went at again, he tried to zerg me a few times when he failed to kill me hehe

I can assure you, Xsorus, that you two are talking about two different Mesmers. I’m not sure who you’re talking about. When did you duel this Mesmer and was he wearing a [FEAR] tag at the time?

I can vouch that killing you is almost impossible regardless, especially with your new bunker build. I watched your video and I don’t recall ever seeing your health drop below 50%, even against 3+ enemies. I tried dueling a bunker ranger in SPvP the other day and it was a stalemate, neither of us could kill the other. It would be fun, and a pleasure, to give you another shot with your new build. Send me a whisper sometime.

No it wasn’t the Fear guy, it was the CaC guy he was talking about or cAc

It was earlier in the thread, or maybe it wasn’t him that he mentioned… one sec

“Only CD I currently have respect for are that one mesmer from cAc (who I have no clue who they are. If anyone has their character name, I’d really appreciate it,) and Iskandarex from TOFU.”

This is the guy i’m talking about.

edit

Also nothing new about the Bunker Build, Its the same as always, But with Bunker Builds you can choose to make yourself more Offensive or Defense. When I lost Pain Inverter I decided to move away from the More Offensive Setup i was running to a More Defensive Setup that I use to run when P/D thieves were more common (They’ve all switched to D/P and S/D)

The only times I could successfully zerg very well with BM Bunker build was when I had PI (Bonfire/Entangle/PI) in the middle of a large group was pretty decent..

and when Guard allowed me to send my pets into keeps (I was actually very useful for taking out Siege and Wall Defenders)

You can do alright with Healing Spring/SoR/the Spirit Elite or Entangle, but its not super great

Reikou.7068:

Xsorus.2507:

I can tell where he lost that first fight at, When he used his Heal to stealth himself at full health.

Also, he does kind of have a point about CD on zerging…..SoS does it, but i see more of them respect fights then I do CD….CD tends to run to guards more or call for help.

Its kind of funny. He knows he can’t beat me 1v1 most of the time, so he tried ghosting my stream and 2v1’ing me yesterday. I turn around and kill him instead while his Mesmer friend turns tail.

Today, knowing he can’t even 2v1 me, he has a group of 5-or-so ghost me, and try to 5v1 me, yet they fail half the time.

How a group of 5 fails to kill a glass thief really blows my mind. Probably having 2 warriors was part of the problem though.

As someone on my stream said, Jakob maybe you should try bringing about 30 next time. Maybe then you might be able to secure a kill.

That said, CD does have some decent players, and I’ve definitely had a lot of great duels recently.

I fought that Mesmer you mentioned earlier in the thread, a couple times..Killed him and then he switched specs and we went at again, he tried to zerg me a few times when he failed to kill me hehe

JakobGW.5730:

Ya’ll remember this guy from the last thread?

Reikou.7068:

Just thought I’d add some extra content to the thread.

A pretty typical SBI vs CD battle.
http://www.twitch.tv/ailesdelumiere/c/2286241

You can see more of this on my stream!

Because of his mouth, I decided to find him a couple of days ago to show him a real CD fight. He runs a gimmicky build and gets a good majority of his kills from complete surprise, whether his victim is running solo or attempting to take a camp. To his credit, he was able to catch me with his burst just one time but has failed to do so since.

My friends and I got a good laugh when I went toe to toe with him and he rage quit just before I could spike him, which is recorded at 13:04 at:

http://www.twitch.tv/ailesdelumiere/b/404214420

I gave him a dose of his own medicine today and then he called me a terrible name! I felt so bad, really I did. He was attempting to troll an open field fight between SOS and CD, as he usually does, and I decided to show him how trolling is properly done . . . to him. Anyways, you can hear what name he called me at 2:46 at

http://www.twitch.tv/ailesdelumiere/b/405058847

I was only trying to show him how to properly do what he was attempting to do himself. You can see him try to do the same thing to me at 2:22 while I was finishing an SOS player. Of course, he failed as usual.

He logged about 16 minutes after.

I can tell where he lost that first fight at, When he used his Heal to stealth himself at full health.

Also, he does kind of have a point about CD on zerging…..SoS does it, but i see more of them respect fights then I do CD….CD tends to run to guards more or call for help.

Chopps.5047:

Sigil of nullification

This won’t let you beat a Guardian, this goes off once every 10 seconds, and only removes 1 boon

Sube Dai.8496:

Puandro.3245:

If the guardian is giving you problems with your build its prob because they are tanky and their onky weakness is condis. If your trap spec you can win otherwise its impossible if they are any good.

Well that’s what I was starting to think. So a good guard can be almost impossible to kill?

If you’re condition based, either Trap or BM Bunker, you’ll eat them alive.

Power Based, its going to be almost impossible

If they’re not doing enough damage to kill you, then they’re full on Bunker, which goes to the Protection/Toughness part which counters Power Builds.

usually they can do enough damage with Retal+their bunker damage to cause troubles, but if you’re living then you’re doing ok.

you’re still probably not going to be able to kill them easily if they’re bunker though.

Could maybe try Marsh Drake in your setup for its Poison, but not sure what you really can do to fight a Bunker like that with that setup.

Like I said, Bunker Ele’s are slower to kill now that I lack PI (7 seconds of Confusion Prepatch was a death sentence to most Ele’s, i’d eat them up rather quickly)…But they still die the same after the patch. The Glass Cannon D/D ones are very easy to kill as it just insures my pets are hitting harder, and they’re having to switch and stay in Water more often.

The actual Bunker Ele’s take much longer to kill, Much much longer, But stand virtually zero chance of actually killing my Ranger as they don’t have the damage for it.

You have 15 seconds to burst down a class with multiple dodges basically, if you don’t do it in those 15 seconds, he’s going to heal back up.

Sube Dai.8496:

So I WvW a lot.

T2, Fort Aspenwood, lots of roaming, sometimes zerging, occasional dueling.

I’m quite comfortable with my build now, feeling I have the perfect balance of survivability and direct damage. I’m very confident in 1v1’s, rarely losing to anyone be it thieves, mesmers, warriors, etc.

The one class I am struggling with however, is guardians. I can usually fight them to a stalemate, or I will lose due to pure exhaustion after evading and dodge rolling for 10 minutes solid.

I feel my build is very damage heavy so I am surprised that they are able to survive so easily.

I don’t understand the guard class very well but two things I do notice are that 1. they block a lot of my attacks, and 2. they heal often, and for a lot of hp.

A thief friend of mine spoke about boon stripping, but I know this is something rangers can’t do.

My question is, what are you supposed to do against well played guardians, if there is anything you can do?

Build is here:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/ranger/?6.3|5.1g.h17|1.1g.h17|1c.71f.1c.71f.1k.71f.1c.71f.1c.71f.1c.71f|2s.0.2s.0.211.0.211.0.2s.0.2s.0|k68.p10.k6a.5.0|2e.7|4i.4q.4r.4w.55|e

You’re a power build, against a class with lots of Retal/Protection and probably Toughness.

Its going to be rough for you.

I’m going to buy this

http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-orbweaver

When I get a chance

Ressing in combat is extremely powerful in most PvP games

Giving any terrible player the ability to do it, along with not actually have any penalty for being downed, along with having Random mobs instantly rally people is borderline stupid, and the worst mechanic i’ve seen in an MMO to date.

nagymbear.5280:

Xsorus.2507:

I tried it, its alright…If Axe had 1200 Range vs 900 it would be a lot better, plus Whirling Defense being able to move with it up.

Off hand training raises its range to 1200.

It just increases the Path of Scar to 1200 range

FrouFrou.4958:

Have you thought about re-binding your keys? I noticed your utilities are still binded on the original 6-0, for example you could bind your heal to Q and perhaps your elite to E, as you are not using the signets that actively anyways.

Ehh, I think you believe i’m using a keyboard to play.

I’ve been using a N52 Pad since SI was released with DAOC and I played my savage
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-n52te-Tournament-Edition-SpeedPad/dp/B000WMEHYG

I need to get the new one that was just released

Oh yea, and a Razer Naga also.

I tried it, its alright…If Axe had 1200 Range vs 900 it would be a lot better, plus Whirling Defense being able to move with it up.

Aeri.5738:

Where can I see the build and the equipment?

I made a BM Bunker Build Guide Video explaining my thought processes on the Build

skinnyb.5920:

Dub.1273:

When i see a ranger as ele i would RTL away.

Are you guys kidding me here? It’s a freaking ranger! No matter what gimmick bunker build they’re running, it’s still a freaking ranger and therefore a free kill.

Rofl, ahh I use to love Elementalist before PI nerf, Was so funny watching them die in seconds.

Now it takes a little longer, but it still ends the same

My favorite fight is the very last one…

Cause I was sitting there watching that huge zerg and I see out of my corner of my eye that necro running over to me and all that was going on in my head was “If you touch me i’m going to poop on you”

If you’re thinking of using Raven with Sic’Em remember using the F2 from raven will cancel out Sic’em and you won’t get any benefit from it

Its why I used Cat

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/BM-Bunker-Build-Guide/first#post1845851

This video was mostly Reyna’s Armor with Passiflora Jewelry, Mango Pie for food
Using 0/0/30/10/30

Though i’m starting to do 0/10/30/0/30

Puandro.3245:

I always viewed birds as a burst pet and cats as a consistent pet. Which bird do you think does the most dps if you dont pet swap and use F2 CD reduction? Owl with chill or raven for the big hit? Pets would have perma swiftness btw. I like cats but i think the 130 range auto attack really hurts and birds have a 300 one.

Edit; feel free to PM i dont want to derail the thread.

If i wasn’t going to pet swap? Raven by far.

Not only does it hit harder, but its a blind which has potential to save a ton of damage on you.