Guild Wars 2

Going to be working on it next Valin

Its Technobabble Volume 3

Technobabble Volume 1 was mostly berserker gear
Volume 2 was PVT/Cav Gear
Volume 3 is going to be Clerics Gear

Apothecary set is Rune of Dwayna
Reyna’s is Rune of the Forge (Settler’s Weapons)
Clerics Armor set is using Dwayna

Yea……i hate when people run, cause I can’t do squat to stop it.

Anyway, i got around to finally making some Clerics Gear for my Technobabble build, and i’m running that right now seeing if I can get the hang of it, Damage is sort of low compared to the condition build, I had to get a Power Sigil and use Sharpening Stone to get it up to reasonable level.

killed a few people with it already, though i wasn’t recording (kind of wish i had) …Something about that Daze build just screws with people…

Anyway…there is a massive difference in survivability in the fight between PVT/Cav armor and full clerics…

Rofl, did I kill commanders in that video? i honestly didn’t notice.

My next video i’m planning on being a Technobabble Video

But i’m going to be using Clerics Gear, it’ll kind of be a cross between BM Bunker and the Techonobabble video’s i’ve had.

It was actually about 10 minutes longer, but I had to cut a lot of video because I think there is a 4 gig limit when making movies with Windows Movie Maker or something, cause anything past that wouldn’t play.

Plus I had to get rid of all the video I saved of people without food (since I often hear complaints about people in video without food, I decided to cut people from any video I do who aren’t using any) the only time I include people who don’t have any is when its 2v1 for example.

Start getting into this matchup halfway into video.

Agriope.4523:

We’ve enjoyed the fights this week, though we haven’t seen many roaming, organized groups on IoJ or SBI (5-10 mans). This isn’t a troll post, do you guys have any? We’d love to watch for the tag while we’re out and about.

I don’t think I see very many groups out, I see some occasional solo roamers like me… but most of the people are running generally at the zerg.

I try and play on the maps our zerg currently isn’t at so when I get zerged (which will happen) I don’t have to pay armor repair costs.

Plus the only thing I hate more then getting zerged, is my team interrupting my fights an zerging the people i’m on.

I’m pretty sure they won’t buff the Rangers damage, and instead will just nerf us.

people don’t want to deal with pets in this game, that requires to high of a skillcap

The days of Rift,WoW,DAOC,Warhammer Online,and pretty much every MMO before GW2 is gone…Gotta cater to the lowest common denominator now.

i don’t know if Mesmer/Paralyzation runes stack with Moment of Clarity, but I know you don’t have to use them

0/30/30/10/0 seems like the most viable version of it with Clerics Gear though.

I’m getting some Clerics Gear soon and i’m going to do another Technobabble Video, so we’ll see how it goes.

Shun.9475:

Why the heck does a Tier 4 Server SoS, Tier 2 TC, get matched up with SoR?

We are getting farmed, its the first freaking day and we are already getting siege spawn camped on our own borderlands

While i feel for ya….I still think its pretty funny SoS is crying about the matchup when they spent month’s farming CD and SBI

After i’m done finishing my next movie, i’m planning on doing another Technobabble Video on my Ranger using Clerics Gear.

But I always found pigs to be unreliable compared to dogs when doing a CC build.

Rennoko.5731:

Xsorus.2507:

People always end up chain fighting me whenever I go to duels..

I don’t know why.

If you mean chain losing… I tried everything I could think of…. wells…. putting conditions on your pet and epidemic over to you… These trends of builds that have a little bit of damage and hordes of sustain are just so effective against a necromancer condition build.

While I can think of lots of different ranger 1v1 specs that I have a hard time with, most of them I feel like I can burst through eventually… your build for whatever reason required me to effectively interrupt your heal (theoretically) at least twice in a row to bring you down…. Since it didn’t happen, it is all speculation, but still.

Thanks for the duels, heres hoping in a patch or two apothecary will be as useful for necro as it is for ranger.

Very heavy condition damage builds are what give me trouble, not duration builds..But the heavy condition damage itself.

Once you get a condition on you, you can’t evade it.

Nothing is wrong with zerging.

Rewarding Zerging the most over everything else, and having it not have any disadvantage however is wrong.

It leads to the 99% of the bad players you see in PvP, who are just awful…

Yeap, Guard made Rangers useful in WvW, to bad it was nerfed cause of Mesmer’s

When I zerg, i tend to use Longbow+Shortbow with a Rampager Armor Build

Pop Sharpening Stones before Barraging with all the Bleed Talents, do a bunch of damage, and apply some decent bleed damage to everyone as well.

That’s bout the only point I’m really using it…Most of the time its shortbow

See, I have the instinct of not jumping in on fights unless other’s jump in (like if I see a 2v2 happening, and a 3rd person jumps in, I’ll actually kill that person and pull off)

Same with 1v1’s, If you jump in my 1v1, I’ll stop fighting and let the person kill you if he can.

if I see you fighting a 1v1, i’ll let you die also without jumping in.

There only a few cases where I simply will aj the fight, and that’s if you’ve zerged me in the past. Or you don’t respect fights…I generally remember those guilds and will attack on sight.

In fact a few times this week I’ve actually ran into fights between Mag and DB that include people that do that.. kill them then leave the fight…

I’m pretty Old school in this regard…Reputation would matter a lot more if names were shown on death.

Oh another thing I tend to do is avoid killing solo upleveled people, I generally let them live unless they’re a threat, or they’re taking a camp and such.

Unless they attack me, I generally don’t fight back and instead let the pet slowly kill them (so they get the point)

People always end up chain fighting me whenever I go to duels..

I don’t know why.

I’m actually surprised about the CD win… honestly thought they were going to lose based on their past performance…

I guess their early morning population is carrying the match for them.

He wasn’t a bad player, he was actually really hard to kill.

He switched to pig cause in previous fights I was killing his dogs over and over again soon as he swapped to them

I do agree that there is a lot of bad rangers out there….I mean a lot..Who will AJ every fight they see…I actually let whoever i’m fighting kill the person who aj’s on them if they can..I’ll pull off and let them beat em..then I tell the ranger he shouldn’t AJ

My personal favorite part yesterday was me fighting a thief, that just killed a ranger…I’m bout to kill the Thief when the ranger shoots him and kills him, i’m like wtf you doing… and he’s like “I wanted revenge for him killing me” and i told him “get revenge by winning the fight”

I don’t think its just rangers though…People in this game just ugg… I don’t know..Maybe i’m just an old foggy having played DAOC…. but I view a lot of people in this game very poorly

wads.5730:

robocafaz.9017:

Got some really fun duels with some really cool guys from DB last night. I owe them #magswag T-Shirts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISgX6r3JJFM

If you don’t want to watch the whole thing, jump to 10:05 and watch the conclusion. It’s a good time.

why arent you just rolling through the necro marks. you cant block them through shield block.

and lol mesmer moaing in a duel

you think mesmer’s moaing in a duel is bad?

I have them moaing me all the time when i’m being zerged….Like 5vs me, and i’ll get moa’d or I’m fighting Thief+Mesmer, and I’ll get moa’d…sometimes twice during the fight .

It works, make sure pet is in combat first.

Faux Sheaux.6179:

I like that Xsorus has time to stop animation long enough to pick up a randomly dropped pig F2 item and throw it back at the guy. Must not have been much of a challenge – then again, he was using a pig.

Trap Build using condition reduction food is fairly low damage.

Its even lower if I can just kill your pet even using a very defensive bunker build.

I feel bad for anyone who’s not BM Build when they nerf ranger pets..

Cause I just absolutely mow through those pets like its nothing.

How do I know this?

I was dueling a trap ranger today, and he had a pig as one of his pets (because I kept killing the dogs he was using)..

Anyway he’d swap to Pig, F2 and I’d just pickup the item and throw it at him.

So yea…

Alad QB.8904:

Devon Carver:

Right now our game […] overwhelmingly favors the last server to log out for the day.

I’m glad there is finally an official statement regarding this. Everyone knows this problem is especially related to players from different time zones playing while the locals are asleep, particularly across the Atlantic. The proper way to solve this problem is by recognizing, as the above quote from Devon Carver does, that there is a time for sleeping — an “end of the day”.

As such, WvW should close down at the end of the day, local time. European servers should close at night, European time (e.g. CET), for 9 hours, and so should the American servers, at their local time.

Its sad it took him this long to realize this….whats even sadder is he thinks that is the only silly thing this awful game favors

Don’t we already have a rolling ball of death?

I believe its called zerging

Levetty.1279:

Hopefully the beast mastery traits get cleaned up. There is only 1 or 2 good traits there and I am being liberal with the word good.

What, you don’t think stability training is an excellent trait for your amazing pet pig?

AydenStar.4216:

WvW is about small tactics teams and organized ZERGS! Thats how Anet wants it and so do I. Just buy a custom arena and have a kitten blast. WvW is a PvX environment where players can have an unique experience doing both. You want to test your skills doing 1vs (whatever) do spvp.

I understand that zerging is not for everyone but WvW is about PvD, its about small tactical teams, its about large tactical battles, and does not center around solo play. You accuse me of having a WoW mentality towards WvW? No! I want WvW to be the place it was meant to be and not this place where kitten gimmick specs that can kill 1vs many. What a joke….

You’re the type of player that assumes WvW means Zerg vs Zerg..

WvW means just that… World vs World..It includes all forms of PvP, be it Zerging, small manning, solo ect ect…. Just like Realm vs Realm did in DAOC..

The difference between the two games is Anet over rewards the least skillful form of PVP in the game, and gives it virtually zero disadvantages…..Its why no one takes this game seriously anymore as a PvP game….Hell…things like the downsystem is why no one takes the game seriously as a Esport either….

people don’t like paying attention to pets because this game has been dumbed down to its core to cater to the mass of idiots who couldn’t handle pvp in other MMO’s.

I mean christ..how many times have I read in one of these threads “Rangers can go all bunker like, and have a pet that does a lot of damage!!” like thats some foreign concept in an MMO.

You could do in DAOC/Warhammer/Rift and WoW ……

Hell, like I said before..people would crap themselves if they ran into a Bonedancer from DAOC.

a CASTER… with an instant cast lifetap nuke on a 4 second cooldown…that had 4 pets..1 big hitting pet, and 3 little ones..THAT CHAINED SPAMMED HEALS on the bonedancer……you could build incredibly hard to kill this toon….and how did groups handle the BD in fights? They killed their pets..You had to…you couldn’t just let it run around freely…

WvW is dead if one of the biggies (ESO,ArcheAge,CU) comes out and does a kitten job …I mean it doesn’t even have to be good…If it is remotely playable WvW is going tank in this game as people leave.

sostronk.8167:

Vena.8436:

Xsorus.2507:

You do know Downstate was nerfed in SPvP right?

It was balanced (ish), which is not along any lines of “everyone hates it, it should be removed!”.

Im fine with it staying in WvW, but it needs to be balanced. Try killing me on my ranger with less than about 3 players whilst in water. Its near impossible.

Yea, you’re not killing a ranger underwater solo.

need 3 people

Yukabacera.2307:

I have the feeling that this is more because ranger sword and pets suck at attacking stealthed players, thus being unable to attack stealthed rezzers as effectively as other classes can with melee autoattacks. Thief down state is normally favorable in 1vX because of its low damage, lack of CC, and ability to force longer than average rez times. Mesmers using mass invis to rez was just really unlucky on your part.

You can attack stealthed players as a ranger, but you do virtually no damage with it that would stop them from ressing.

You could maybe if you’re berserker gear ranger..but then you wouldn’t be solo at that point, instead you’d be humping the zerg talking about how great the down system is because random bunnies dying resses you cause you have bad positioning and the concept of prekiting is foreign to you.

AydenStar.4216:

Hey, I like the GS 1 skill! Evade on third swing its nice when I am rolling around in the blob getting loot bags. One day they will fix the skill lag so I can get my heal off.

Anyway, I like zerg battles and that is what WvWvW is about. The rally mechanic is interesting during big fights because if you dead complete you are going to rally the enemies in down state which can turned the tide of the fight. Downstate is a serious penaly in competitive tier zerg fighting which you don’t understand because you don’t zerg.

What I am saying is I don’t want WvW to be catered to roamers. They have there place in WvW but removing downstate would only catered to experienced roamers who are mainly fighting against noobs and zerglings (in zergling specs).

You want WvW to cater to people who zerg everything and don’t put any thought into how they play..gotcha.. ..The WoW generation has ruined MMO’s

Breytes.6901:

Getting rid of the downed state or the ability to rez anyone that has been stomped would gut group mechanics completely. There are no dedicated healers in this game to rez the fallen or top off health bars. There is a penalty to stopping to rez a downed player, it makes the rezzer unable to defend himself or attack the enemy this leaves him/her wide open to anything the attacker wants to do.

You as the attacker need to pace the fight so that you have either spike abilities off CD to complete the kill after your opponent gets downed, or utilities off CD to secure a stomp. That is part of the fight this is the mechanic that takes the place of having a pocket healer in other MMO’s.

I play WvW as better part of half of my game time and I run a very, VERY bunker guardian. I hit like a wet noodle and am slower to get to a battle than a snail in the depths of winter. While roaming or if I hook up with a small group or zerg I make certain to pace my stability CD just so I can secure a stomp or if not me my team mates can.

The point of the PvP in this game is to NOT allow instagibs to rule the battle field. You are not supposed to be able to roll up on someone and hit 3 buttons in 2 seconds and they have no chance to react. As it stands now you need to roll up hit 5 buttons in 8 seconds (depending on class you are and class you are facing) while making sure to retain enough resources for the kill, and that kill is the stomp.

This is chess, battle chess, or for you Harry Potter fans Wizards Chess. You and your opponent are meant to engage, feint, draw out your opponent into a mistake and then strike. There are a plethora of videos on youtube showcasing roamers both solo and small groups that put larger odds down and each video shows the same thing tactical use of your resources, proper amount of pressure applied to get the enemy incapacitated (downed) and then the reserves pulled out to secure the kills.

TLDR: L2P the system as it is presented. Do not play the system as you want it.

A. I have no problem with ressing, as in you res someone after the fight, or even abilities can res people in fight.

B. I do have a problem with random mobs rallying baddies, Random Zerging players ressing people, and in general just terrible players being bad, dying because they’re bad…but getting a get out of jail free card because they other baddies near them. I esp dislike any sort of mechanic that doesn’t actually reward doing well in PvP, but just simply outnumbering your opponent and relying on others to do PvP for you.

C. I don’t run an instagib build..I actually don’t think instagib builds should exist, But if you’re getting instagibbed in a fight its probably your fault more times then not…Either you’re glass cannon, or your positioning sucks, and you should die. I understand if you’ve never played DAOC, and know what positioning is, but trust me..Its important.

D. Most videos you see of people taking larger numbers come down to 2 things..The people not actually ressing people downed, or the other..the person is a Thief.

E. This is just a note, Rangers have access to 1 stability….Rampage as One, our elite… and you still won’t be able to stomp fast enough to get by 1 person ressing…So yea.

F. L2P would be what you tell all those people out there who rely on outnumbering their opponent, and then arguing against changing a system that rewards them for being bad at the game..which the downsystem does….Like you said though, you tend to zerg..So nerfing the down system would probably make it kitten you, might actually rely on player skill instead of numbers.

Going to call out some kittenry on NNK guild.

If i’m having a 1v1 with you…and you get backstabbed by a stealther…and instantly dropped…and I end up saving you by fearing away the thief so your guildie can res you, then I proceed to kill that said thief for you…Don’t proceed to 2v1 me after I pulled off the fight so you didn’t get crushed..

That is why when that thief and his buddies came back, I killed your guildie along with you and stomped you for it.

Vena.8436:

Xsorus.2507:

The only people i’ve met who think its great is PVD zerglings, and PVEers

Or… you know, actual PvPers: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp

But way to generalize based on anecdotal evidence to fit your bias. Where would the world be without such broad statements I wonder…

You do know Downstate was nerfed in SPvP right?

Sanny.1270:

it really is the worst idea i have ever seen put into a mmo, let alone a mmo who claims pvp superiority over any other.

I’ve yet to meet a single person who’s play any other MMO’s to date and PvPed in them, think its good…

The only people i’ve met who think its great is PVD zerglings, and PVEers

AydenStar.4216:

WvW is about the blob and players of all skill level. WvW is not balanced around 1 vs the world but a team effort. I am sorry you can’t finish off players fast enough but to removing a core mechanic for group play so the lone ranger in gimmie specs can roam around WvW all day. LOL!

WvW shouldn’t be balanced around 1v1 or 1vX, I didn’t say it should..

However rewarding the Blob with a res mechanic that favors them is pretty silly.

Here is how you know the downed system is bad in pvp, they nerfed it in SPVP.. where it honestly is akittens most balanced.

PS. i’m sorry you want to smash your head in the keyboard all day long spamming SB1 on people and think mechanics should be designed around that sort of player..I however think a PvP game should be designed around people who actually PVP..

Also before you say “I PvP” you don’t…..Zerging in this game isn’t PvP..it was PVP in DAOC, it was PVP in Warhammer, hell it was PVP in rift.. this game though I can close my eyes… and spam 1 button.. and hit people long as i’m zerging.

skinnyb.5920:

What needs to be changed with the Downed System is the fact that one person on your team dying has no cap on the amount of people they can rally on the opposite team. It’s very frustrating to have all of your efforts negated by one person dying.

how about that random animal that died that resses the guy you were about to down….that’s lovely.

Jamais vu.5284:

Xsorus.2507:

Seriously……killing 2 people 3 times each and having them res each other before I can get a stomp off each time is moronic..

There is no reason a single person should be able res someone faster then another person stomping them…No reason..sure..if you want to play the stupid system of giving everyone a res I can somewhat understand multiple people ressing someone..but 1 person? really?

Why do you hate control so much? If you want to DPSDPSDPS maybe you should join a CoF1 speed run group instead of WvW.

I have no problem with control…Giving you the ability to res in combat with no downside or hell.. even having to spec for it is pretty silly though, cause it leads to the current system of rewarding baddies outnumbering people.

AydenStar.4216:

I strongly disagree
I am getting tired of people wanting to tailor WvW from themselves. Down State is fine in WvW. It might not be good for your lone ranger style of play but down state has diminishing returns if they are dying fast enough (which you are not doing from your post). Face it WvW is not a place to test your solo skill. You have lots of noobs kitten it around in WvW or players in zerg/group specs which fail vs roaming spec and because you come along and want to pwn them for your livestreams is not an respectable reason remove Down State.

So you think rewarding a blob of bad players PVDing is much more acceptable..Not actually rewarding skill.

Also, I’m going to bring up the not killing fast enough, you realize that penalty goes away after a minute right….Oh wait..You zerg..so no..

style.6173:

I still never understand the complaints around this. I down people, and then I stomp them. What is the issue?

The only thing that needs to be changed is Eles in mist form. They should not be able to suicide outside of gates, and then be able to mist form back inside.

The issue is anything past 1v1.

2v1 you’re not only outnumbered but you have to deal with a rez system that favors the person who’s outnumbering you.

I’ll use an example, if i’m fighting a Mesmer/Thief duo…I can down the Mesmer all day long, and the thief will run up and stealth him and res him..Nothing i can do will ever change that…Despite outplaying those 2 people..I cannot win because a system that caters to people having more then 1 automatically gives them the win.

If i go for the thief (which is never the best option, as he can simply stealth and run at any point) the mesmer can also Stealth him as well…..Not to mention the mechanics of their downed state also limits stomping capability. Its why its always better to just damage the thief, because the time you wasted downing him you could of just did damage instead.

Ele’s of course are powerful next to keeps of course…

If you don’t have stability you won’t be able to stomp some players before they’re ressed, and you can’t stop the person ressing if they have stability..I mean I can somewhat get it in SPVP, even though down system is actually NERFED in SPvP….but in World vs World.. where the only true display of skill is soloing and fighting greater odds..Rewarding the scrubs zerging even more is just silly.

XII.9401:

I lack skill and I am a PVEr coming to a pvp area and I expect to kitten! Don’t remove the downed system! That way me and my friends can zerg all day till wvw becomes even staler and people leave the game.

That pretty much sums up the downsystem right there.

I can understand it in SPVP.. but in WvW…Gut it, hell remove it flat out.

Game already over rewards bad player zerging without an entire res system dedicated to it.

Seriously……killing 2 people 3 times each and having them res each other before I can get a stomp off each time is moronic..

There is no reason a single person should be able res someone faster then another person stomping them…No reason..sure..if you want to play the stupid system of giving everyone a res I can somewhat understand multiple people ressing someone..but 1 person? really?

When I get some more gold, i’m going to buy a full set and move my forge runes over to it.

Right now it’d cost so much i’m not sure I wanna buy a set.

So Forge Runes will be on the high toughness armor set, and the Dywana Runes will be on the Apothecary Armor set

Jewelry drops from mob, or just buy it on BLTP for dirt cheap.
Armor/Weapons cost 2 gold + some karka shells.

Not sure if its better then apothecary, Its Healing Power vs Toughness basically.

Rofl, i’d login during the morning, and kill the 5 to 6 spots where 20 or so shelks were at each..

Could clear a 100 or so very quickly..

It was overtuned, though feels a little undertuned now

hex.3218:

Tenebrous.2451:

Dayra.7405:

@Roo Stercogburn: Looks like you did not understood the new system.
So far Gunnars hold is the match winner with +56 rating points, Riverside is second with +23 points and Piken the looser of the match with -72pts.

Rating is what you are fighting for! Rating is the thing that remains with your server when the match is over. GH currently fights over expectation, and that’s why you win most.

And this is nice in the new system! It has different challenges for you. It can be either
- Defend your rating by dominating a weaker server (Piken fails to do so currently)
- win through in an even match (Riverside does this vs Piken)
- Resist the domination of a stronger server (GH’s does this well at moment)

In fact you can have every mixture of the above as you have 3 sides in the match.

Both scores matter. It hard to motivate anyone except the hard core on increases in Glicko.

hex.3218:

Slashco.3927:

Title says it all. I know I enjoyed my old server matchup in T4. Yes, we won every week in points because of a strong oceanic presence, but in North American prime time, we’d have even numbers and sometimes be outmanned. Was fun. Going up 2 tiers on a “random” multiplier is the worst idea in the history of gaming.

No fun = no more GEM $ for Anet from me.

Sounds like the can’t win = no fun bus showed up.

It is hard for a server to stay motivated when they are beaing badly beat. Losing is not fun anyway you look at it.

You can’t be serious… Then why do all the second and third place servers keep playing? JQ doesn’t win every week, but every week we have a LOT of fun.

JQ doesn’t lose by 100k points every week.

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Xsorus.2507:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/1-11-Ferguson-s-C-Sorrow-s-F-Eredon-T/first

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/1-25-T8-Sorrow-s-Ferguson-s-Eredon/page/2

Other people even noticed you had a large influx of players..Stop trying to deny it.

More anecdotal evidence? The logical fallacies you spout are endless, aren’t they? Apparently you didn’t read the thread’s there because the same information was given. You choose to believe the side your argument is on, that is confirmation bias, and again is evidence of nothing.

Just like t7 accused us of transfers mid battle, and everyone other server jokes about the winning server getting transfers.

We’ve already successfully derailed the conversation of this thread with these nonsensical arguments. If you want to continue arguing with crap for evidence then feel free to PM me. I’m going to refrain from responding in here unless it’s back on topic however.

You weren’t the winning server in Week 1, you came in second place….Then magically by week 3 you were already covering a large number of points over the other two servers.

You didn’t magically get better in 2 weeks..No one is going to believe that line of BS.

You got transfers, its why people in that thread suddenly noticed you having more defenders out the wazoo.

There is nothing wrong with getting transfers, Don’t get me wrong..Nothing wrong with that at all.

But it is pretty silly to claim you suddenly got 100k points of skill because you just got “better”