Guild Wars 2

I support this of my own free will. Grenth did not influence my decision or threaten to eat my soul.

ImTasty.2163:

they should just scrap dungeons from the world and find a way to incorporate them into fractals

I was thinking the same. Dungeons and fractals always seemed like the same thing, except fractals had scaling. But, as you say, it’s unlikely.

Ohoni.6057:

I will be absolutely gutted if Oakheart Vines don’t appear all over the place. That is the absolute best thing added to the game since launch.

My hope is that core movement abilities will get alternatives in PoF, not as “big deal” adds, but just as things you can get if you need them.

I take it you don’t live somewhere laggy like Australia? I’d love to use the oakvine more, but it’s so unresponsive.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Zoltar MacRoth.7146:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

zealex.9410:

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

AuroraW.7149:

Well, yes, there have been mount talks before and I never bothered. Mostly because I couldnt imagine that Anet would give into the mount-crowd. Now everything is different and I just have to add my 2 cents: First, I have nothing against mounts in MMO’s in general. I can see the certain role of mounts in Elona and I understand Anets approach of including mounts into the mastery system. What really annoys me about mounts in GW2 is not the presence of mounts itself, but how people are going to use them. I have watched lots of MMO’s during the past years and in every single MMO with mounts, people are using them constantly, even in the most useless situations. If possible, they would even ride to the loo with them. :-P Mounts cluster all places in these MMO’s and they downgrade the games somehow. Turning them into a silly kindergarten, where there could be graphic beauty and depth.

Couldn’t have worded it better. I’m not against people using mounts (still dislike them), however, people will use them in such unnatural/unethical manner inside buildings, ultra thing pathways (that it would fall off) etc, that it will ‘graphically’ kill the crap out of the immersion of the game.

The immersion that isn’t there because teleporting devices?

Well, Waypoints are actually a canon thing. Had that whole bit during Season 2 about waypoints being attacked by tendrils.

That’s a self-defeating argument. These mounts are going to be explained in-story too, making them just as canon as waypoints according to your logic.

Well, yeah, they are.

My point is that both advance immersion, rather than breaking it.

My apologies. I misunderstood your point. I agree with it.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

zealex.9410:

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

AuroraW.7149:

Well, yes, there have been mount talks before and I never bothered. Mostly because I couldnt imagine that Anet would give into the mount-crowd. Now everything is different and I just have to add my 2 cents: First, I have nothing against mounts in MMO’s in general. I can see the certain role of mounts in Elona and I understand Anets approach of including mounts into the mastery system. What really annoys me about mounts in GW2 is not the presence of mounts itself, but how people are going to use them. I have watched lots of MMO’s during the past years and in every single MMO with mounts, people are using them constantly, even in the most useless situations. If possible, they would even ride to the loo with them. :-P Mounts cluster all places in these MMO’s and they downgrade the games somehow. Turning them into a silly kindergarten, where there could be graphic beauty and depth.

Couldn’t have worded it better. I’m not against people using mounts (still dislike them), however, people will use them in such unnatural/unethical manner inside buildings, ultra thing pathways (that it would fall off) etc, that it will ‘graphically’ kill the crap out of the immersion of the game.

The immersion that isn’t there because teleporting devices?

Well, Waypoints are actually a canon thing. Had that whole bit during Season 2 about waypoints being attacked by tendrils.

That’s a self-defeating argument. These mounts are going to be explained in-story too, making them just as canon as waypoints according to your logic.

Serpentes.3894:

I like this suggestion. As said it will give players a reason to actually do the extras. As mentioned its not obligatory but since yo uwalk the extra mile, might as well get smth for them.

It doesn’t have to be anything super special, just something Maybe even another achievement if you have them all to get a title or smth. “Master of Thorns” or w/e

This suggestion comes with the caveat of: what are you going to do when you’ve used up all your spare mastery points, and you don’t have enough in the next expac/episode to get whatever masteries you’d like to get?

You know somebody’s going to fall into that situation, and kitten about it on the forums. So, if you’re for this idea, what do you propose for the above problem?

Here’s hoping they’ll produce a mount skin that mimics its owner. I.e. our toons get to ride giant versions of themselves. ;D

zealex.9410:

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

AuroraW.7149:

Well, yes, there have been mount talks before and I never bothered. Mostly because I couldnt imagine that Anet would give into the mount-crowd. Now everything is different and I just have to add my 2 cents: First, I have nothing against mounts in MMO’s in general. I can see the certain role of mounts in Elona and I understand Anets approach of including mounts into the mastery system. What really annoys me about mounts in GW2 is not the presence of mounts itself, but how people are going to use them. I have watched lots of MMO’s during the past years and in every single MMO with mounts, people are using them constantly, even in the most useless situations. If possible, they would even ride to the loo with them. :-P Mounts cluster all places in these MMO’s and they downgrade the games somehow. Turning them into a silly kindergarten, where there could be graphic beauty and depth.

Couldn’t have worded it better. I’m not against people using mounts (still dislike them), however, people will use them in such unnatural/unethical manner inside buildings, ultra thing pathways (that it would fall off) etc, that it will ‘graphically’ kill the crap out of the immersion of the game.

The immersion that isnt there because teleporting devices?

When I see people using the word “immersion” I just mentally substitute it with “my enjoyment” and then their statements make sense. /shrug

If it helps, think of it like a bank account. You have extra money in there in case you need it for future needs (i.e. masteries). Just cause it’s there don’t mean you have to spend it.

I’m going to go out on a limb and posit that this would be a venture that would not only be time-consuming, unneccessary and costly, but would also invalidate content that is specific to each map, so it’s unlikely to ever see implementation. Just my 2 coppers.

trailofsalt.6571:

So now the dead horse threads are going to be those that don’t want mounts? Are they going to last as long as the dead horse threads did that constantly requested mounts for the game? I understand the dismay of those who are very closely tied to lore but that ship has sailed anyway. Mounts are going to happen and there isn’t any amount of threads that are going to change that.

Nah, we mounters are better than that. No need to rub their noses in the horse manure. ;D

Cheer up! Maybe they’ll implement a broom/carpet skin for mounts as people have been asking.

I want an option to hide players who want to hide my mount

I heard they’re trying a new concept where there’s going to be two or three boss metas in each map. ;D

Oh, just kidding before anyone has a salt attack.

Ayrilana.1396:

Squee.7829:

Ayrilana.1396:

It hurts minion builds where the player relies on them for damage. For other builds, it’s not really that much of an impact.

Perhaps they’ll make players’ minion immune to it along with whenever they resolve the server lag on that map.

It hurts minion builds of any flavor. I rely on minions to take my damage, .uptick my bleed stacks and steal health for me more than do any direct damage. But they can’t do that if they’re getting wiped out constantly because I picked something up or are in a Balthazar temple.

I ran necro for dailies on that map and never had issues.

Well, that’s settled then. No need to provide any detail on how you’re playing or what minions you’re using or where or how. Just state it doesn’t exist and the problem is solved.

zealex.9410:

Zoltar MacRoth.7146:

zealex.9410:

Zoltar MacRoth.7146:

If the six gods ever decide to bring in a spider mount, I’d expect it would be able to climb cliffs, rather than make bridges. Spanning chasms is already handled by the raptor, but climbing cliffs isn’t handled by any mount yet and it’s something you’d expect a spider to do.

I agree on the falling damage part.

The bunny one does that.

No, the bunny scales cliffs by jumping which would have limitations in terms of maximum height, aiming and room to land. A spider, in my imagining, would have the freedom to climb vertically or move horizontally on a cliff face as desired, as well as being able to just hang there on a cliff-face in case you wanted a safe place to rest.

Anyway, aren’t you being hypocritical? If the spider can’t scale cliffs cause the bunny does that, why would you ask it to span chasms which is what a raptor does already?

I am the hypocrit? The bunny handles that already so why add another mount for that same job. And dont tell me because it does it in a diff way because i suggested a diff way for what a raptor does as well. At least having a slawer falling through the web can still work and feel unique.

If you’re asking me “why add another mount for the same job” then why are you suggesting adding another mount for the same job as the raptor? O_o

Of course they’re going to bring out new mount skins in the gemstore. It makes sense. We Australians need a kangaroo skin for the bunny.

zealex.9410:

Zoltar MacRoth.7146:

If the six gods ever decide to bring in a spider mount, I’d expect it would be able to climb cliffs, rather than make bridges. Spanning chasms is already handled by the raptor, but climbing cliffs isn’t handled by any mount yet and it’s something you’d expect a spider to do.

I agree on the falling damage part.

The bunny one does that.

No, the bunny scales cliffs by jumping which would have limitations in terms of maximum height, aiming and room to land. A spider, in my imagining, would have the freedom to climb vertically or move horizontally on a cliff face as desired, as well as being able to just hang there on a cliff-face in case you wanted a safe place to rest.

Anyway, aren’t you being hypocritical? If the spider can’t scale cliffs cause the bunny does that, why would you ask it to span chasms which is what a raptor does already?

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

NPCs haven’t used them, why should we?

NPCs don’t use waypoints, or revive orbs either. I take it you’ll be following that precedent?

I suggest a little renaming as part of this update to better clarify what some of the more ambiguous terms mean:

“Concentration” —> “Booncentration”

“Expertise” —> “Experdition”

“Ferocity” —> “Precisiocity”

I heard they were going to add eagle mounts too, but due to some glitch the eagles wouldn’t go anywhere near Mt Maelstrom or any player carrying an ascended ring in their inventory.

And an engineer could have a mechanical spider! With flamethrowers.

I just assume my toons get this knowledge when I’m not playing them. I mean, when I’m not logged in, time still passes in the game world, so what do they do? I reckon they wander about, eat, drink, perform their bodily functions, socialise, study, run errands and probably hook up now and then. They’re not celibate. As long as they get back to their designated spot by the time I log in again, they’re fine.

Let’s hope thief gets a slo-mo visual following the bullet as it flies from the gun to its target and splatters it. Yeah, I know it’s an open world and you’d be in danger from enemies while you watch the visual, but how cool would that be?

Codes.6870:

The Shining Blade should have their own outfit.

I don’t know – aren’t they kind of a secret organisation? Isn’t that why the have the super secret club house?

If the six gods ever decide to bring in a spider mount, I’d expect it would be able to climb cliffs, rather than make bridges. Spanning chasms is already handled by the raptor, but climbing cliffs isn’t handled by any mount yet and it’s something you’d expect a spider to do.

I agree on the falling damage part.

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

So raids will be 16% harder… Ty for killing my motivation. Just made 6th viper set, so that when i do raid I would be fully geared nope.

Also with the addition of power precision ferocity AND condi damage gear, ty for combining that with viper. It’s a kill to my gear, as that Grievers gear (of what the name is) is new meta… Ty Anet.

So in conclusion: 100% condi duration (clearly meant to be achieved by lots of classes) is killed… ty so much anet. And you think power has just as good food? Power has some things that are really strong for it (like decreased stun duration) wich is useless for most condi. This change is just a overreaction to the current raid status. (and making raids actually worse).

Raids are balanced around 100% condi duration. Nerfing 16% condi duration (8% damage) means raids will take 8% longer/harder to do. Ty so much… Raid are even more elitist now. And guess what power ele will be risen again. ‘LFG lf 7 ele dps slots’. Bad job anet. Power food generally is better. Condi has only condition damage and condi duration.

Sheesh. This and mounts in the same week. How do you cope with all these changes?

Indeed! Robo-raptor! Bionic-bunny! Hovercraft! And …uh… some kind of teleporting wolf robot thingy…?

I concur!

I’d also love it if there was a flying surfboard skin, so I could feel like the Midnight Surfer from 2000 AD.

Firstly, the title of this post is misleading. XP is a common acronym for Experience Points, not Expansion Pac, so you lured me in here thinking you were talking about that. But speaking of the ExPac, I’m excited. I didn’t expect to be – but hearing that there’s five new maps, and massive ones at that, plus the masteries, mounts and elites, gives me cause to hope that an explorer/completionist like me will have plenty to do. Good luck to the XP! Or rather, ExPac!

I’m hoping future masteries allow us to mount machine guns or other weapons on our mounts. I’m deadly serious. I would pay for a bunny with a bazooka.

Don’t worry. You’ll be able to jump from your mount as it’s moving and glide, then use your oak-vine to attach to a tree, pull yourself up, glide some more, then grapple onto another player’s mount, kick them off and commandeer it. Why? Just cause.

Space… I maintain that the next expansion will take place in space. The new thing will be spaceship mounts. The new elites will be Astro-Knight (Warrior), Spacelord (Guardian), Dark-Star (Rev), Space-Cowboy (Engineer), Xenomaster (Ranger), Warp-Rider (Thief), Photonicaster (Mesmer), Cryomage (Necro) and Red-Shirt (Ele).

^ Good point, Drarnor.

You know a Charr is just two asura, one sitting on the other’s shoulders, inside a big cat costume, right?

trolling or serious? /confused

Wait until the next expansion reveals that Tyria is actually sitting on the back of a giant turtle flying through space. You’ve been riding a mount all along!!!

Leo G.4501:

Abakk.9176:

I had given myself a nice weekly budget of 10 euro to spend on this game. I stopped that also until i am sure that mounts are (at the very least) NOT usable in cities. No use investing in a game i don’t want to be in anymore in 2 months.

I honestly hope your romantic expectations will come true… but experience tells me otherwise.

No use in discussing it any further either. Time will have to tell i guess.

Give Blade and Soul a try if you haven’t. I love the windwalking in that game. I think they’re getting a new class pretty soon too. Oh, and they don’t have mounts.

They don’t have mounts…. yet. MuahahahahHAHAHAHAHAH!

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

It’s an expansion; it’s going to, you know, expand the game. It’s specifically for post-L80 gameplay, so I doubt very much if there will be sub L80 zones. Most veterans are going to be in new zones, so I doubt those will be underpopulated.

Besides, what’s your suggestion for how to do it differently? No new zones? No post-L80 gameplay? Split the player base even more so by including sub-L80 content instead?

Haha, perhaps they should remove 5 maps as well as adding new ones, then we wouldn’t be spread out so far LOL

I like it. Can we remove the raid maps? They’re group content and people have been complaining we need less of that. Two birds, one stone. ;D

Wait, isn’t there already an option to not see mounts by turning off the computer and going outside? Is this one of those working-as-intended things?

Arnox.5128:

Hybarf Tics.2048:

All ideas are welcome but seriously and obviously too late, the game is already coming out September 22nd. The only option for the anti mount crowd is to take a hike, I mean walk, until you need to cross a valley or reach a high plateau, then pray for a mount to pass by and give you a lift.

That’s the beauty of this though. As I said in the OP, all ANet needs to do to make a Travel Mode is just to copypasta a bunch of running/jumping/teleporting animations and then slap the mounts code on it and call it a day.

That sounds so simple and elegant. I can’t see any reason why anet wouldn’t implement this by september.
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Phoebe Ascension.8437:

But where’s Arenanet in this diplomatic situations? Nowhere. They choose eggs for their money.

Why anet!?!? Why did you choose eggs?!? Don’t you know honey is better? It rhymes with money for Balthazar’s sake!

Pino.5209:

Hevoskuuri.3891:

http://www.pcgamer.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-guild-wars-2-path-of-fire/

Check out this article if you haven’t yet, it’s got some sweet details about mounts and the expansion in general.

This is a ‘content’ expansion
Heart of Thorns was, according to ArenaNet, a feature expansion. While it added new zones, its main purpose was to restructure the game’s systems to support future expansions. But its price was a big ask for what was, compared to many MMO expansions, a relatively slim amount of new things to do. And while Heart of Thorns is now a much larger offering thanks to the new maps added in the latest season of the Living World story, Path of Fire is being billed as a content expansion. It follows the basic template set by HoT, and simply adds more stuff. While five new zones may not sound like a huge increase, ArenaNet says that, in total, they’ll be larger than the combined area of both Heart of Thorns and the six Season Three maps.

The bolded part worries me. HoT is not a great expansion to be used as template.

No need to worry. All it means is that HOT was the skeleton of features that this is being built on. This is the flesh on that skeleton. An undead skeleton that will rise up and devour the world.

I’m actually excited by the exp too. Me! It looks like it’s going to have plenty of things to do and the visuals are sweeeet.

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

hide mounts for player who dislike them (and there’s a topic with 2000+ response, most veterans proven to dislike mounts, most players that want mounts don’t actually play atm).

…soooo you’re saying if they added mounts those players that like mounts but aren’t currently playing would start playing thereby increasing the player base? ;D

I’m glad the mounts issue is finally settled. Now, can we move on to capes? And mounts with capes?

Last Warrior Lord.7248:

Did you not watch the 22min vid a lot of moms that have mounts don’t let you start an First attack

That sounds just like my mom. She’s always riding her mount around the house and never lets me start fights. #MomsWithMounts

Aenaos.8160:

I want people without mounts to be invisible.
I also want all SAB related items to be invisible.
And Heralds with their flashy purple disks invisible too.
I also don’t want birds to fly too close to my toon,so make them invisible too.
Bunny ears— invisible.
Pony shooting weapons-invisible.
And since I don’t like walking in games,I’d like to be able to go everywhere without moving(kinda like the angry salad dragon).
It’s a win win,and a win.

I want legendary armour to be invisible

I’m looking forward to trying the mounts, and I hope they release new mount skins in the future so you can further customise each of the mount types. And there’s the added benefit that those who threaten to leave because of mounts can do so and reduce the load on the server for the rest of us.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Don’t you people be touching my thing. >: (

That’s right. Don’t touch the shiny.. things..