Most likely confirmed by the recent podcast.
I predict necros or engineers getting portal.
It could potentially be necros or engineers. I seriously doubt eles will get it…
Im fine with this, no class should be mandatory for spvp (and wvwvw to an extent), I can see people complaining in the future about mesmer losing its “uniqueness”, but balance is balance and this is a step in the right direction, its that or no portal at all.
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Didn’t we already get ctf in wintersday? Did anyone actually enjoy that?
yes we did, your point is?
How is the tier 2 duel group going on?
After watching the live steam, I just hope that paid custom arenas are not the solution for dueling… people wont pay to duel their friends, they will continue to use spvp maps or wvwvw for it.
Please arenanet, we want to duel our friends, test builds, coach buddies. Dont put a price tag on that.
Precisely, but people dont understand that. I dont know why people are against adding more features, the same thing happens when someone suggests a LFG tool, it would improve quality of life immensely
Remove all skills/utillities (except for healing skil) and replace them with the banner pick up skill. There balanced.
Wheres the fun in that? Might as well remove all weapon skills while you are at it.
Yeah but lets be real here, no one would visit them…
Having Arenanet put the official forums here would bring legit visitors, and many views.
I think the flag bearer should get a buff once carrying it. I can just imagine carriers getting snared and downed in seconds.
I guess A-Net would have to care about their PVP community first to even think about adding any new features.
Well thats the point isnt it? Stopping enemy flag carrier, thats why you have to support him, or grab the flag as soon as it drops before the enemy does.
Yes, Arenanet needs to take care of its PVP community, which is why I believe they need to make new modes or noob-friendly maps. I suspect not many players enjoy conquest mode or find the present maps exiting.. I may be wrong.
Duels are plain stupid and meaningless in guild wars…still can’t get why people are doing it, if you want to duel go metin2, in a real match noone is going to duel 1vs1 for more than let’s say 5 secs or you’re just wasting your time..
I am in a multi-realm dueling guild, we organize 1v1 and 2v2+ duels in a secluded place in a borderlands, mainly in tier 3 currently (members from CD, FA, IoJ and formerly TC)
Why do people duel? Maybe for the same reason why people like dungeons, or crafting, or capturing keeps. Its fun for them? Fighting is core part of the game and people enjoy dueling their friends on a fair match without interruptions, to test their skills or to coach them.
The game doesnt offer us a proper dueling system, so thats why you have players dueling, or coaching their friends in some sPVP maps or in our case.. in a world vs world map. People might get mad at us but sadly we dont have options, we paid for the game and we have every right to have fun just as much as you do.
Please keep an open mind and realize that people have different tastes than you do, there is no reason to think of us as “stupid”.
Cheers
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Capture the flag was my favorite pvp mode in other MMOs. Mainly because it has more defined roles, you are either on offense or defense and make you use the best of your class’s abilities. You can say conquest works in a similar way but it doesnt feel the same.
Lets compare Arathi Basin (sorry but I will make a point) with GW2 maps, Arathi Basin is easy to understand, players can asimilate the entire map layout in the first 2 minutes, allowing them to navigate with ease. The conquest maps in GW2 are confusing as they are cluttered with buildings, debris and objects. This complexity works well in wvwvw but not in small-scale battles, new players get confused and its not a good way to attract an audience.
Hopefully Capture the flag will be a great opportunity to remedy this and attract the much needed audience spvp deserves. How would you balance the classes for a fair match? On the top of my head, flag would have to drop in certain skills like stealth and portal and some classes would have to be toned down… I can see D/D eles being undefeatable flag carriers seeing how fast they go and how hard it is to stop one. Thoughts?
I thought I read somewhere that we were going to get realm forums, so friends can discuss their strategies, experiences, and do guild recruitment without cluttering the world vs world forum.
Would make the community in each server stronger.
it doesnt add anything to the game and only makes running dungeons frustrating
Actually the “point” of my message is that “I” don’t want to have “my” atmosphere ruined by “your” dueling whilst within the PvE post-searing enviroment. If you feel the need to fight others within said area then I would make a compromise to add arenas. But open world duels, as you have said yourself is akin to WvW and as we have that already I see no point. As for messaging, I do know how to ignore, but that was not my point at all.
Some people might say not being able to brawl ruins the atmosphere, think of the RPers, brawling is part of fantasy, movies, books. Nothing will change, you wont see Lion’s Arch filled with people fighting all over the place. The places you most often visit in PVE will most likely be the last places you will find people dueling.
BUT, this contradicts the lore and story TOTALLY! The nations put aside their petty squabbles to fight the terror that is the elder dragons, so even “playful” to the death squabbles are illogical to the lore. RPers or not, if you want a game with lore that allows for this then may i suggest you find a game than more suits you. As for me I like it here.
Then explain wvwvw? sPVP? Duels will not be fights to DEATH, duels are just friendly fights until the other player reaches 1 health and submits.
Its a different world, tyrians dont ride animals like humans do, that would be an insult to nature.
And please, enough with the “people will message me”, that rarely happens if they see you have auto-decline on and if it does, politely tell them that you are not interested, why are you so afraid of social interaction?
Because for the most part the messages are not polite messages like “Please duel.” They are insults: at best “care bear”, but often things that I won’t even try with the profanity filter here. If you consider that a form of social interaction that is acceptable and should just be shrugged off, then no, I don’t want to encourage it or your community.
I’ll reiterate: I’m all for making 1 vs. 1 available. Just not in the open world where it would be disruptive.
You are just assuming too much, again I am a member of a dueling community where we practice 1v1 and 2v2s in wvwvw, and we all act respectful to each other. You may get the occasional little troll just like you would in a pve dungeon or any other online game.
Might as well remove dungeons from the game because I had a couple of bad experiences.
Actually the “point” of my message is that “I” don’t want to have “my” atmosphere ruined by “your” dueling whilst within the PvE post-searing enviroment. If you feel the need to fight others within said area then I would make a compromise to add arenas. But open world duels, as you have said yourself is akin to WvW and as we have that already I see no point. As for messaging, I do know how to ignore, but that was not my point at all.
Some people might say not being able to brawl ruins the atmosphere, think of the RPers, brawling is part of fantasy, movies, books. Nothing will change, you wont see Lion’s Arch filled with people fighting all over the place. The places you most often visit in PVE will most likely be the last places you will find people dueling.
Put aside a place in every city designed as an arena for the duelers to “play” only. Upon entering this area you are tagged as a duelist and can both attack and be attacked by other players. Doing this will keep the players vs enemies atmosphere prevalent in the PvE open world intact and allow those that want to duel a place close by to do their thing. As a non-dueler this is a win/win for me as I wouldn’t have to ignore duel requests (although some may still send messages to that effect) or watch others in the PvE game world reverting back to the chaos that was pre-searing. The PvE aspect of this game was designed as co-operative and as such watching players duel each other should be kept separate from the main PvE game.
You really are missing the point for dueling, your suggestion is no more different than playing wvwvw. We want to have control over who we duel and when we duel. I dont want to go to an area and coach my friend who is fighting someone only for them to be interrupted by 3 players joining in the fight.
And please, enough with the “people will message me”, that rarely happens if they see you have auto-decline on and if it does, politely tell them that you are not interested, why are you so afraid of social interaction?
Duelling pretty much always end up in people whining classes are over or under powered and demanding a buff or nerf. Such things always end up being detrimental to other aspects of the game. So no duelling should not be added.
I invite you to read the wvwvw and spvp forums, you are in for a surprise
Bottomline is, that always happens, in just about every online game there is, many people run into 1v1 encounters frequently and having the option to duel your friends, coaching them will only serve to make them better players. Whiners will wine as they always do, but now people have the option to teach or just have fun
I don’t know, I’ve endured trade chat in WoW; I can’t get too exercised over map chat in GW2. Still and all, map chat is far less intrusive than a duel request that pops up in your face which you dismiss just to have it pop up again. I don’t believe the two systems are comparable in there perceived impact on one’s game experience.
Read the thread please, most games that offer dueling gives you a toggle to decline all future duel requests. There is your intrusion problem solved, and most importantly people wont bother you or whisper you if they see the declined message.
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couple of guys in this thread think dueling will convert players into mindless whispering goblins that will follow you and pester you for duels all day
i cant comprehend how they think that is a valid argument really, it worries me that Arenanet might read this thread and think “hmm, they have a point, lets not add this popular feature to preserve peace and harmony”
I am in a multi-realm guild where we go to a secluded place in borderlands and organize 1v1 and 2v2 duels, its unorthodox but sadly its the only way arenanet allows us to fight our friends with our ACTUAL characters we spent so much time with. sPVp is out of the question as you cant customize your stats and do creative gear mixing, and some of us like playing with our armor skins we worked so hard to get.
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Roam solo, it is MUCH better than dueling. In duels most people won’t duel until all timers are up, but when you roam, chances are you’ll be caught with something on a timer, most importantly, your elite.
a minute at most? besides usually when one finishes dueling, another pair is ready to fight so you wait your cool-downs while you watch your friends go at it.
theres rarely any queues in the BLs so our community is harmless, we all paid 60 dollars for this game and we are entitled to play as we see it fit and fun.
Hopefully Arenanet introduces dueling, spectating, arena and death matches and make it easier for all of us in the future, until then, [Duel] will be recruiting
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fun times with duel are indeed to be had!
For all the duel haters… its as simple as “auto decline toggle”, bam, problem solved, you PVErs are happy, and we duelists are happy.
Nope.
Dueling in the open world adds a lot of visual polution. It would also be bad for the game, considering how it has not been balanced for 1v1. And really… The kind of player who wants to duel random strangers isn’t the best one to be cattered to.
Visual pollution?
You are saying this as if all the world would actively seek duels all the time, the dueling community would naturally decide on a spot away from people, monsters and NPCs and gather there to watch, chat and learn.
They can simply disable it in major cities, your visual polution “problem” has no grounds sorry.
For all the duel haters… its as simple as “auto decline toggle”, bam, problem solved, you PVErs are happy, and we duelists are happy.
the first 2 replies on this thread are sad
Unlike thieves, D/D eles require skill and thinking to play, I rather be killed by a D/D ele than by a 1111511115 p/d thief
Its a shame that people that want to duel have to go through such a hassle… it could be as easy as standing anywhere in the world and right click on portrait and select “Duel” and thats it
These are some good points, I love fighting people but I dislike spvp in GW2 because I feel detached from my character, I worked hard and fair to get my exotics and skins but all that goes away when I join the mists….
Which is why I prefer WvWvW.. but it still limits my options, I wish there were indeed battlegrounds where you play your ACTUAL character.
Or do you mean you get your kitten owned when you pvp against people with equal gear footing?
Getting exotics is pretty easy, and significantly compared to other games, here you can get all your exotics in really a few hours of work.
Most people who are lvl 80 in wvwvw are pretty much decked out already, i call that equal footing.
These are some good points, I love fighting people but I dislike spvp in GW2 because I feel detached from my character, I worked hard and fair to get my exotics and skins but all that goes away when I join the mists….
Which is why I prefer WvWvW.. but it still limits my options, I wish there were indeed battlegrounds where you play your ACTUAL character.
I love this guild but ever since TC moved to Tier 2, I havent seen most of you guys.
Duels in the open world are much more fun than spvp imo, you can spectate and you fight with your own gear and hard-earned skins, not some generic armor set given to you. We want to duel our friends in the open world and its a shame that Arenanet doesnt get it… renting a private server is NOT the solution
I disagree with ALL of your ideas, you are pretty much asking for a new class that also happens to use clones.
I really dont understand some of the mesmers on this thread, I never lose an 1v1 fight and In some cases I can take 3 people at the same time.
If anything our class needs more nerfs, so why are you complaining when they fix some bugs?
Please roll an engineer or a ranger, and you will see how much better mesmers have it.
Watching this video made me angry….
Me: Mesmer
Most feared: good thief
Least feared: ranger
C’mon guys it’s a thief you’re not support to see them coming. I personally hate playing against thieves but they do make tiptoe around WvW for sure which makes the game more exiting in my opinion.
Its exiting for you, but not for everyone else. I dont see how having an insta-kill class adds any excitement to the game. By that logic lets make Guardians immortal, and lets make necromancers rez themselves in 0.5 seconds, they are dead afterall, and lets make mesmers clones just as strong as the caster, that should add even more excitement!
No, it doesnt work that way.
I dont think this game needs tanks or healers
But I agree that something needs to be done.. dodging red circles isn’t my idea of fun.
I love how the thief took 80% of the mesmer’s health in a fraction of a second, but he complains when another class does the same?
Both mesmers and thieves need their burst toned down
It makes me wonder if they really sit on a table and discuss class balance. They also buffed thieve’s by improving stealth running speed.. as if catching a thief wasn’t hard enough. What gives? :S
So my question is, is it spvp, and is it after the 14/12 patch? If its tPvP/sPvP specific help you need I have a good tPvP high ranked mesmers who promiced to help ppl with problems unless my answer covered what you asked.
It was wvwvw, but not at the same time.. i am in a multi-realm guild were we all go to a location in a borderlands and organize 1v1 and 2v2 duels.
Your daze tip sounds like a good plan, I will put it into action next time I see it. (the duels were post-patch)
Hi Osicat, I have been dueling many classes lately with your build but this phantasm mesmer was giving me a LOT of trouble! he used sword + sword / staff. The phantasms were doing a lot of damage but I ignored them and focused on the mesmer who also shattered quite frequently, I couldnt do much to the mesmer as he seemed to know when to dodge my shatters and he healed like crazy. I could not beat that mesmer once!
Have you fought good phantasm mesmers? Any tips?
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I had fun once, it was horrible
“A thief should be able to kill you alone. We’re assassins, that’s what we do.”
Your class is called Thief, not Assassin, or Rogue, or Mutilator. You are basically saying your class needs to destroy the other seven in duels or otherwise thieves are not working as intended?
I made it on my third try. So this shocks me… some people just arent good at platforming I guess lol
Quote please? I’m not finding it and also not seeing any option in wvw to set these preferences.
Read the patch notes, seriously, its there, do a ctrl + f if neccesary, and the feature is right in the options panel. Use your eyes please before posting.
So many particle effects on the city, my FPS drops to the 20s. Is there any way to disable snow? Anyone else having lag issues in lion’s arch?
Because apparently thieves have a hard time escaping from battles