if you like hunters then you might also like warlocks they also have pets which can tank for you and they are easily to level
Make it the one last place where we can 1v1, 2v2 or GvG. The dueling scene exists weather you like it or not. The least you can do is respect our wishes.
(inb4 go to spvp comments) Most of us hate spvp and going there looking like a lvl 1 character after all we have been through leveling our characters and wearing our hard-earned exotics. Also, no stat-customization, no racials…. and the ease of creating a max-character in 2 minutes creates the obnoxious FOTM mentality that plagues the spvp community.
Yeah this was such a bummer… the game rewards you for doing the things you like, but nope.. not here.
Pretty much every mesmer I see nowdays in wvwvw is some sort of PU condition build. They wreck me all the time.
I tried it but I missed shatter so much that I went back, but I do understand the strenght of PU builds.
I used to win 1v1 duels all the time some months ago.. but lately everyone and their mom is running tanky condition builds I have no chance against.
pretty much, the new map is excellent but the stat buff needs to go away as quickly as possible
its just mind boggling how this went through considering Arenanet agreed with all of us when we requested the orb’s to be removed
I’m guessing that they want to encourage and strengthen intra-server teamwork, seeing as roamers, duelers does not add value to the notion of inter-server war. It is war that they want to bring into perspectives, not so called guerrilla groups, who roam in their own self-interest.
Probably also another way of saying, if you want to duel, or PVP, make use of the Mists.
I didnt work myself to lvl 80 and run the same dungeon over and over to look the way I wanted to, only to join the mists and look like a lvl 1 character. So no.
im sad because i think guild wars 2 is a fantastic game with a lot of potential
yet seeing my favorite game be crippled by just incomprehensible design choices, its just heart-breaking
Officially loving it so far!
More stuff to cap, more places to hide and sneak up on groups of enemies.
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yes, this is nice, no one will disagree with you
Also gives reason to come out for the server wide buffs.
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this is the bad part where they clearly show they have no idea what they are doing, the buffs will only make the strong server stronger, they ruined duels and guild vs guilds.. and they made the life of roamers just more frustrating.
They removed the orbs for a very good reason, why.. why bring them back?
You just ruined duels, you just ruined guild vs guild meetings.. you just ruined the fun out of lone roamers like myself… and worst of all, you just made the strongest server even stronger
Dear god, whats happening to developers lately? Do they even play games and understand whats best for them?
Dueling would only make players happy, so no, please arenanet give us more conquest mode maps, we just LOVE point holding.
Mr. John already said he doesnt think players enjoy killing other players, so they will continue to invest in objective based game modes. God forbid the PVP community gets a game-mode primarily focused on killing other players.
They forget that yesterday’s outcry was against bad forum moderation deleting Xepth’s original post along with John peter’s detailed response.
No, that issue also made the frontpage. We are not stupid.
“I dont think Deathmatch is any fun, so everyone else must feel the same way” -Dev
The nay-sayers never fail to disappoint, one of them actually said “id prefer if this game had no PVP at all!” (seriously, in page 2 i think)
Please Arenanet, tell us what YOU think.
Q. “Hell no, I dont want to be spammed by duel invites!”
a. You wont have to. Many games offer a “Decline all duel invites” toggle option. It will be like dueling was never implemented in the first place.
Unfortunately it doesn’t do much for when your auto decline is followed by..
“hey acept my duel”
“caman dude fight me”
“dont be a kitten caman fight me 11!!!1”expletives, insults, general harassment, etc…
there’s a reason you can’t message opponents or know who they are in WvW.
That is so far from the truth, if a duelist sees the duel was auto-declined, they will simply find someone else to duel. I played WoW for 6 years and unless I was standing in the obvious orgrimmar gates dueling circle, I wasn’t invited into a duel ONCE, and I never saw someone pester anyone else for that matter. Most duels simply happen between people who know each other or friends that want to test their skills.
WoW isn’t btp. Adults with jobs to pay a sub are one thing, the CoD rage teens that populate some areas of this game are a different matter.
If you want to duel your friends for fun or to test a build I am all about adding it in limited areas. A free for all any time any where type of thing would just cause grief one way or the other. I honestly don’t see the need for dueling like that and I don’t understand why a few people insist on it.Free for all arena =/= dueling. Please dont mix the two. You must seriously be joking if you think a monthly subscription is some sort of firewall for obnoxious teenagers.
I’m sorry that you misunderstood me – it’s probably you being stuck on trying so hard to make your point. Free for all = any punk kid to either spam duel invites or sees that you have that option off and decides to call you out in map chat, whisper you, or follow you around until annoyed.
You still haven’t explained to me why it has to be everywhere and not in arenas or empty areas in PvE.
A monthly sub does make a difference because if you have had the account 4 months not only do you have the time investment it is a money investment. No matter the greasy faced little kitten does think about the cash he has had to lay out to play a game instead of fornicating.
You do realize most children have their parents pay their subscription fees, right? Between the two games I say GW2 has a more mature community, despite being BTP.
Q. “Hell no, I dont want to be spammed by duel invites!”
a. You wont have to. Many games offer a “Decline all duel invites” toggle option. It will be like dueling was never implemented in the first place.
Unfortunately it doesn’t do much for when your auto decline is followed by..
“hey acept my duel”
“caman dude fight me”
“dont be a kitten caman fight me 11!!!1”expletives, insults, general harassment, etc…
there’s a reason you can’t message opponents or know who they are in WvW.
That is so far from the truth, if a duelist sees the duel was auto-declined, they will simply find someone else to duel. I played WoW for 6 years and unless I was standing in the obvious orgrimmar gates dueling circle, I wasn’t invited into a duel ONCE, and I never saw someone pester anyone else for that matter. Most duels simply happen between people who know each other or friends that want to test their skills.
WoW isn’t btp. Adults with jobs to pay a sub are one thing, the CoD rage teens that populate some areas of this game are a different matter.
If you want to duel your friends for fun or to test a build I am all about adding it in limited areas. A free for all any time any where type of thing would just cause grief one way or the other. I honestly don’t see the need for dueling like that and I don’t understand why a few people insist on it.
Free for all arena =/= dueling. Please dont mix the two. You must seriously be joking if you think a monthly subscription is some sort of firewall for obnoxious teenagers.
Q. “Hell no, I dont want to be spammed by duel invites!”
a. You wont have to. Many games offer a “Decline all duel invites” toggle option. It will be like dueling was never implemented in the first place.
Unfortunately it doesn’t do much for when your auto decline is followed by..
“hey acept my duel”
“caman dude fight me”
“dont be a kitten caman fight me 11!!!1”expletives, insults, general harassment, etc…
there’s a reason you can’t message opponents or know who they are in WvW.
That is so far from the truth, if a duelist sees the duel was auto-declined, they will simply find someone else to duel. I played WoW for 6 years and unless I was standing in the obvious orgrimmar gates dueling circle, I wasn’t invited into a duel ONCE, and I never saw someone pester anyone else for that matter. Most duels simply happen between people who know each other or friends that want to test their skills.
I was bugged a few times in WoW by children asking to duel me just for the lols. Hated those kids so much, especially because I was level 80 and they were always below level 20. Thankfully I could type a quick /ignore and be done with them forever.
In all honesty though, there are a ton more children in GW2 than in WoW. Why? Because children can afford to pay 60 bucks and not a continuous 15 bucks per month. I could see duels being abused by those children. I would really like duels to be implemented, but I’ve already met more than 40 incredibly dumb-witted and rude children in dungeons, and I would not like to meet them when they have a duel option under my portrait.
No, when children see that you’ve declined their offer of a duel, all they see is a challenge. They bug the living crap out of you until you either decide to throw yourself out of a tall window into a volcano of molten lava or accept the duel and kill them in 2 hits. In other mmorpgs other than WoW, the little buggers do not stop until you are dying on the floor because you’ve been afflicted with a severe case of complete and total insanity.
If you are so easily offended, you shouldn’t be playing online games. By your logic, lets remove jumping puzzles because I am offended when children pester me for portals. Lets remove wvwvw because children teabag on my corpse. Lets remove dungeons because children make fun of me when I dont know a boss mechanic.
Q. “Hell no, I dont want to be spammed by duel invites!”
a. You wont have to. Many games offer a “Decline all duel invites” toggle option. It will be like dueling was never implemented in the first place.
Unfortunately it doesn’t do much for when your auto decline is followed by..
“hey acept my duel”
“caman dude fight me”
“dont be a kitten caman fight me 11!!!1”expletives, insults, general harassment, etc…
there’s a reason you can’t message opponents or know who they are in WvW.
That is so far from the truth, if a duelist sees the duel was auto-declined, they will simply find someone else to duel. I played WoW for 6 years and unless I was standing in the obvious orgrimmar gates dueling circle, I wasn’t invited into a duel ONCE, and I never saw someone pester anyone else for that matter. Most duels simply happen between people who know each other or friends that want to test their skills.
Anet has gone to great lengths to separate PvE from PvP. It’s been a theme of theirs since Guild Wars 1.
You want duels…have them….in a separate space, not the open world. Let Anet make a huge dueling map if they want, but I want a choice to be away from that. Because even if I could auto decline duels, I’d prefer not having dueling interfering with other stuff I’m doing, even if it’s just crafting or looking at my bank.
Read my thread, dueling will have to be outside major cities for that reason.
Because then we would be playing every. other. game. rolled. into. one.
Yes, adding the option to duel will totally transform Guild Wars 2 into a wow-clone.
rolls eyes
Do you have any idea how many people that want duels will get on here and complain about how dynamic events disturb your precious duels? Go to WvW and duel on the bl behind the wind mill like everyone else.
I dont think anyone would post something like that. Be realistic. If anything, they will move their duel to somewhere else.
WvW duels happen, they are fun, but we cant duel people in our own server. Spvp is out of the question, the thing that spawns when I join Mysts is NOT the character I grew up with.
So many awesome locations in the world where duels should happen. Its the ONE feature I am waiting for since release, and still we have no signs of it… its not that hard to code it. All the assets are already there, no need to waste time designing maps, abilities or events.
Q. “You do know you can duel in a custom SPVP server, right?”
a. I dont like spvp, period. I didnt spend hours and hours leveling my character and running dungeons to get the armor I always wanted, only to NOT use it in spvp. Also, no racial abilities and no stat customization.
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Q. “Hell no, I dont want to be spammed by duel invites!”
a. You wont have to. Many games offer a “Decline all duel invites” toggle option. It will be like dueling was never implemented in the first place.
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Q. “I dont want Lion’s Arch to lag even more with all the dueling!”
a. Allow duels to happen only outside major cities.
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Q. “This is a team-based game, dueling should be discouraged!”
a. If you do wvwvw and spvp, you will face many 1v1 situations, dueling helps you understand the other classes better, and allows friends to teach and coach easily how to play their class.
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Q. “The game is not balanced around 1v1, people will complain when they lose duels!”
a. Read the forums, people complain about nerfs and buffs anyways, all the time, its the nature of online games for people to complain. We are not asking for 1v1 balance, we are simply asking to give us the option to brawl our buddies in the open world.
didnt watch it, the camera shaky effects are just terrible and distracting.
I dont understand why people complain when we suggest dueling to be introduced.
I dont like dungeons, but I dont complain about them, I know a lot of people are into it but I dont mind it.
I would love to be able to duel my friends outside of spvp. I dont like the mysts. I didnt invest hours and hours running TA to get my exotic armor only to not be able to use it in the mysts….
Please allow us to duel our friends anywhere, add a “block duel invites” with it too for the nay-sayers.
So I run up the ramp to the balloon at divinity’s reach, but nothing happens, its doors are closed and the NPC doesnt say anything useful. Can someone explain what am I supposed to do?
I didn’t spend 1000 hours in PvE and WvW to get all my gear and equipment, only to not be able to use it in sPvP.
Pretty much this, I love duels but I hate spvp.
I ran Twilight Arbor many times with fail pugs to get my armor, it was tough but in the end I was happy with my looks. Its just silly that I log into sPVP and suddently my hero looks like a lvl 1 starter character.
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this is a stupid request
a smarter option would be to default all asurans in spvp to their race’s max height, which is just as easy to read as the smallest human
phantasms need their damage toned down, its silly how a mesmer can gear for bunker and yet the phantasms do so much damage, other than that the class is fine
I dont see the problem, but if the devs to take action, please scale asurans to their max size in pvp, but please do not make them “human sized” as that would look ridiculous
1- Dueling
2- Arena, Deathmatch
3- Dueling outside of hotm, like in pve places
i like to duel and 1v1 and I never trash talk like that
sounds and a great and fun idea, which goes against arenanet’s vision of pvp
we have also been asking for duels since the start, still no signs of it
underpowered? overpowered? regardless, a class that can vanish out of sight every 4 seconds is just bad game design and makes it horribly unfun for those fighting thieves.
Our confusion got slammered and you guys still want more nerfs? We are more than fine now.
I am very dissapointed that I have to pay real money to duel a friend without interruptions, and worse than that I cant duel my friends with my PVE armor, stats or racial abilities…
but 1v1 will help to BALANCE! ehh this is so easy to understand ;(
Should dueling only be available in The Mists? I think it should, if they are going to split PvP and PvE skills.
Why do you even care if it is available or not outside the Mists? If they make it available outside the Mists and you don’t want to duel nobody forces you.
Only because you don’t like to duel… that is no reason against a duel featuere. I already explained it. They also could make an option to auto deny duel requests so people that don’t want to duel won’t get bothered and spammed by random duel requests.
And about the whining: ArenaNet should just ignore it. As long as duels are only for fun and there are no real 1 vs. 1 leaderboards or tournaments it should not be a problem because they would be only for fun then.
I don’t think you get my point.
ArenaNet have started/will start to split PvE and PvP skills, that being some of my skills will work differently in The Mists than it will in Tyria.
The whine would be massive, from both ways. For example, Elementalists being really strong in PvE, doing a lot of AoE damage and healing, while in PvP the damage is reduced, and as well as the healing, some utilities and whatnot might even work diffrently.
Pepople who will duel in the PvE world would whine a lot about Elementalists being overpowered, while Elementalist players would defend themselves since ‘’We don’t work like that in PvP, we are weaker.’’
And nowhere I said I didn’t like to duel, so don’t put words in my mouth.
Everything you wrote is invalidated because dueling will use the same rules and laws as in wvwvw-spvp, regardless if you duel in the mists or in tyria. They can easily just make it so an ability does or lasts for -this- long only while dueling.
Implementing duels is much faster and easier than all the other “priorities”
You dont need to create a map, or a game-mode, or tons of coding… all the assets are already there, just let us right click a player, player hits accept and the fight begins. Please add this feature to both hotm and PVE as well. As many of us enjoy wvwvw fights but hate conquest mode.
A “Duels will be implemented soon” reply from a dev would have made me happy, instead they show they really dont care for the dueling community. Its pathetic really, I have no reason to play anymore because the most fun features I enjoy in MMOs (deathmatch, 1v1, arena) are not in this game.
The game is balanced around team fights, so no.
We still should have the option to duel our friends tho, dueling helps us improve our skills.
Was separating pve and pvp beneficial?
Yes.
Having it any other way is dumb. Only PvEers who want to stomp players with their gear and not skill would have it combined.
Again, this is far from the truth, ascended gear makes minimal difference and getting exotics is VERY easy and quick.
He probably just wants to outgear everyone. That’s not even that unreasonable given that this is an MMO.
not really, I dont have any ascended gear in me, and getting exotics is fairly easy (1-2 days for a casual) compared to other MMOs.
I voice my opinion and I get called names, thankfully you guys dont speak for all the spvp community
This is about PVP, and I am not that really into PVE… I am used to actually having to level characters to do high-lvl PVP… so this new system feels weird to me and Im sure it feels weird to others too.
Being able to make a PVP ready character in few minutes reinforces the flavor of the month mentality where people always bandwagon to the ’’best’’ class, and since they didnt have the class experience that leveling 80 levels would grant, they are generally bad and complain when things dont go the way they want.
And by cuztomize the stats, I mean that pve offers a much versatile level of cuztomization, you can fine-tune your attributes to best suit your playstyle.. wheras in SPVP you only have a few choices.
Its pretty much 2 separate games in one and I dont think it worked so well, part of why I really dont step into spvp that much is because I cant customize my stats like I can in PVE. Also its pretty depressing I leveled my character to 80 and gave him kitten armor, only to step into HOTM and look like a lvl 1 squire. I really dont think that the character that spawns in hotm is the same character I grew fond of…
In my opinion, separating pve and pvp did more harm than good. Other games (wow) let you PVP with the same character you PVE with, and it worked quite well.
While I see the benefits (better balancing), its all worthless when you dont have enough people playing hotm.
If we ever get the chance to play Arenas, Deathmatches or duel our friends.. please let us do so with our PVE characters, the ones we actually leveled and adventured with, with the gear we worked so hard to get.
why not going into a spvp map?
3- stat customization possible
This is why I like dueling in wvw. simply more stat combinations possible to get that perfect mix you want. hit me up anytime I am on if you want to duel in T2. I am game, but I must warn you I am bad.
We are at FA BL, Victor’s Lodge right now (by the mill)
We are still waiting at FA BL by the Mill, come and fight us people!
why not going into a spvp map?
1- no racial skills
2- all our exotics and legendaries we worked so hard to get = gone
3- stat customization possible
4- No map rotation in the middle of duels
5- No hot-joiners interrupting duels
Where: FA BL, Victor’s Lodge Mill, Tier 2 (TC, FA, kai)
When: Right now
Tired of small group vs huge zergs? Rather 1v1, 2v2 or 5v5? Are you in FA or kaineng?
If you are alone or in a group and wish to participate in duels, whisper me [Twitchy Toes] and I will bring friends over by the mill area in any borderlands and fight where we wont be bothered (mostly). Or just hop to FA bl right now and duel us there.
Fun and challenge awaits you!
Twitchy Toes, Tarnished Coast
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Dont think they will anytime soon, apparently we love conquest mode so much that the only major changes to PVP have been the introduction of 2 new capture-point maps.