Guild Wars 2

EaGrimdarK.7849:

Menus are unintuitive and glitchy.

-Myself nor any of my guild mates have ever encountered anything like this, perhaps get a real computer?

Rewards lack PvE value.

-Why would there be PvE value from sPvP items? Who cares? I dont come to sPvP to kittening PvE, gtfo care bear.

There is a lack of a in depth progression system.

-You clearly dont care about the PvP quality, this is also apparent from your 2nd bullet point. Who the F cares about meaningless, superficial crap like this? You want some shiny little icon or some crap to represent something about your progression? Does that make you feel like you have some semblence of skill or just time dedicated? Go complete the world map, since its not the actual PvP you are caring about

Leavers are still a major problem.

When will “leavers” not be a problem? Do you actually think some short term punishment for leaving will make people not want to leave? You want anet to slap people on the wrist and put them in time out? QQ

Tournaments aren’t in the game yet.

They are.

Paid sPvP matches are underwhelming.

Any proof of your major paid tourney accomplishments? Just wondering since your opinion seems to be PvE centric so far, which has nothing to do with the quality of the PvP itself.

There is no spectator mode.

Go watch a stream.

There is a lack of modes.

Yup.

TL;DR

This guy cares too much about PvE, superficial representations of accomplishments, unimportant menial features that can easily be supplemented by simple google searches. He’s not a sPvP’er.

All you did was say QQ l2p.

No Spectator Mode
Add. This. Now. New players learn from watching advanced players. Add this so that new players can learn. This is so important that I cannot even express my disappointment that this is not added. We need a spectator mode that provides full information on both teams, and is able to be streamed and commentated on. This is the driving factor for both educating new players, and moving esports for gw2 forward.

Lack of Modes
I really don’t care if you don’t balance new modes, the point is that we need variation. You can obviously create new modes from what you’ve shown in the holiday events, so how about making some permanent ones. We really desperately need this.

In Depth Progression System Lacking
I feel that this game can learn a lot from League of Legends, and Dota2. Progression in GW2 is purely cosmetic, the PvP that is. At end game for PvE this is fine, but in PvP I feel that there should be more progression in terms of rank. The better you get, the higher your rank gets, and the higher your rank, the harder your enemies will become. Have leaderboards that can be viewed to show the top teams and players, giving them REAL glory, not some contrived dress up exp. Create an ELO system, that can give real purpose to improve, and to advance forward in ranking.

Leavers
Give them a debuff that prevents them from joining a new game for 10 minutes. Why is this not in the game. It is not a new concept.

sPvP Paid Matches are Underwhelming
There is basically the teams that have ventrillo or skype and are very organized, and then there is the solo joiners that get stomped. At the end the two teams that are on skype battle it out and one of them win. The solo joiners get wrecked hard and the cycle continues. This is not interesting for the teams that are organized, or the solo joiners. Make a separate queue for each one. Also, rewards for this should be greater, but also special. Give special rewards only gained from Paid Tournaments that can show that you have beaten your foes in this type of game.

Player vs Player in Guild Wars 2 is Inconvenient

• Menus are unintuitive and glitchy.
• Rewards lack PvE value.
• There is a lack of a in depth progression system.
• Leavers are still a major problem.
• Paid sPvP matches are underwhelming.
• There is no spectator mode.
• There is a lack of modes.

Let’s get down to it. Remember these are my personal opinions on how these can best be fixed, and is simply here to provide feedback to the devs.

Menu Issues
Besides the glitches and bugs that the menus have, they are overall just lacking in many ways. Firstly, to access the PvP servers to join a match, you must talk to an NPC. This is really not the most convenient way to join a server in an mmo, since you need to walk up to someone to join a PvP match. Instead, how about integrating the PvP server browser into a menu that can be accessed anywhere in the game? There is a reason why modern day mmorpgs have taken up this practice, it is good.

Secondly, menus in PvP do not give information as quickly as I’d like. I cannot see the kills, deaths, assists and captures of other players. I can only see the points they’ve acquired. How about making the menu in PvP in a way that very clearly shows the kills, deaths, assists, and captures of all players? Knowing which player is skilled and which is not is key for PvP.

Make the menus stand out more, make them sharper. The watercolor art style is very smudgy, and makes menus a bit harder to read than they should be. The menus themselves should stand out very clearly, and be easy to read, even if glanced at for a second. In the topic of information, there should be more of it. Show the stats of the players, give us the amount of power, toughness, etc that each player has, so that we can have a better understanding of our team, and the enemy team’s composition.

PvP Lacks PvE Value
In sPvP, there is a severe lack of gaining any foothold economically in PvE. A player that PvPs will be very very poor compared to the average PvE player. This is a bad thing, because it makes it feel like PvPers are not rewarded for participating in PvP, and eventually they fall behind in terms of money. The funny thing is, ANet has the solution to this problem in Guild Wars 1. Zaishen Keys. These were keys that could be gained by trading PvP points, and each key could open a chest that had the chance of giving some of the rarest items in the game. PvE’rs bought tons of these keys, which in turn gave a source of income for PvPers.
Also, why not give a way to level up in PvE while PvPing, besides WvWvW that is.
The PvP gear you can gain can stay, although I feel that there should be a visual difference between the PvE sets and the PvP sets. Maybe give PvPers an expensive glory point item that can add visual effects to weapons and armor?

I have found it!! The solution that will make both ANet and the playerbase happy! (Opinion of mine, maybe you think differently.) But it is the epic quest for the baby moa!! The fluffy black baby moa chick with the adorable puffy fluffiness! You had to do all this special stuff, and then hatch it to get it. So maybe put a regular quaggan baby mini in the game like this? Make us go underwater to find an egg, go to kessex hills to get hay for a nest, rata sum to steal an incubator, go to the fireheart rise to heat it up to hatch it? Cmon anet it sounds awesome and would give us quaggan! Then people might not care too much about festivoo and rng ;3

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Black_Moa_Chick

Moderator edit: removed infraction from thread

I’ve noticed that there is a lack of traits that directly affect the way utility skills function. As in, if you get said trait, it will change the utility skill’s effectiveness or function drastically. Most traits that are tied to a utility skill tend to be cooldown reduction, or slight buffs. Maybe its just me, but I feel like these traits aren’t so interesting, a drastic change would be though. Maybe I missed a few that do this, but I haven’t really noticed. What are your thoughts?

Necromancer in a present… hmm….

Have all minis.

ANet gives free cogs out.

You want refund.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Wintersday_Mystery_Box/drop_rate

So here is some research for the drop rates for the Gem Store Mystery Boxes, and they seem kinda ridiculous! So basically for a few dollars you will get a few personalized boxes, and some tonics, if this information is right. I can understand what a gamble is, but this seem a bit too much of one.

So my question is this, is this an accurate representation of the drop table for the boxes?

whoa this thread got buried fast o_O. Doesn’t anyone wanna discuss this event?

Chief.5928:

I feel like being able to team up with your party or guildies should’ve been part of the design of the event.

Fully agree. I have no idea why Anet opted for the method they employed for this event. It would be 10x more fun to do it with Guild mates you can communicate with through voice communication.

I agree, but hey, they gotta learn to be better next time right?

neon.4863:

Toypocalypse was a load of fun after I got a group that was able to pull it off. It wasn’t hard to get the achievement once our group got going, either.

It wasn’t very fun instance-hopping 23 times to get there, though.

I feel like being able to team up with your party or guildies should’ve been part of the design of the event. It’s understandable for Snowball Mayhem since it’s a PvP activity and it’s not a problem for Bell Choir (though it’d have been nice anyway) since it’s a solo activity, but this is a coordinated team effort – not unlike a dungeon – and while the ability to PuG should be there, so should the ability to play it with your friends.

I feel like the reward for completing it with all yaks alive (besides the achievement) was underwhelming. If ANet is going to make the achievement easier, perhaps increasing the number of gifts you get for each dolyak alive would keep things interesting? Also, I feel like points shouldn’t be awarded for just weapon kills – building siege should give points and recruiting skritt mercenaries should, too. That way even as people compete against each other they’re still helping each other get things done and making good use of everything around the map.

Lastly perhaps the big present should spawn closer to the yaks or be delivered automatically whenever the gift was opened – as it was anyone who was actually helping (building siege, for instance) couldn’t help themselves to the gifts, which seems odd.

tl;dr I had fun when I got a coordinated group but I feel like this was the poorest Wintersday activity in terms of planning.

Idk about “Toypocalypse Canceled” being underwhelming, there are some people with little amounts of time (why they are playing an mmorpg I have no idea haha) , so a reachable achievement seems fair.

However, the more hardcore player would think that’s boring and would want a real challenge in game, much like the Mad King’s Clock Tower. But when they did give a real challenge there was a massive amount of negative feedback from players who were unable to beat it.

TL;DR
I think they made a good decision on making holiday achievements easy because people get upset when they cant gain them, although I’d like a hard challenge for holidays.

Sokina.8041:

25% chance they said.

It’s a relatively high chance they said.

I failed 15 times in a row on Princess and just bought myself the Endless Toymaker tonic instead. kitten you Zom

That sucks but that’s what RNG is. 25% chance doesnt mean that you will get 1 of them in 4 tries. It means that you have a 75% chance of failing every time.

What is this thread for?
This thread is for the discussion and feedback for the Toypocalypse event for Wintersday 2012. Please keep the discussion constructive, informative, and helpful to those new players looking for some info on understanding this new event.

My feedback for the event.
Overall the concept is fun and amazing, however I feel that the event’s fun factor relies heavily on the team you are set with. If your team is competent and understands the mechanics behind the event, you will have fun. If you are stuck with a team that fails to understand the mechanics, you are going to have a not-so-fun-time.

My Guide for the Toypocalypse Canceled Achievement.

More Information and Details on this Event!
dulfy.net/2012/12/20/gw2-toypocalypse-wintersday-guide/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=gw2-toypocalypse-wintersday-guide

Hopefully this can help someone out, and we can give some good feedback to the ArenaNet team! Happy Wintersday!

This will be infracted…

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

I just wanted to “pop” in and say that I understand how important this is to you all, and I agree that the slingshot sounds really cool when it’s fired. Unfortunately, the root of the issue is not just a mere oversight but rather a technical issue that has to do with the differences between these two weapon types. When we discovered the issue we made the determination that it was better to have the pop gun without the pop sound than not have it all.

In this case, I’m sure we want to solve this problem for other cases in the future so I would say chances are very good that this will be fixed. I just can’t say exactly when it will be fixed though. It probably won’t happen before the holiday is over.

Hrm, its kinda worrisome to me that a sound effect cannot be put in without an issue, hopefully this gets fixed, thanks for the response.

Azelroth.6801:

ElenaDragon.8401:

Just 3 tries and I got the endless Griffin. My first endless tonic.

Elena the griffin is totally adorable. I’m wondering if it has emotes like:

/dance, /laugh etc etc?

Can you please test it out and report here? Thanks

No emotes, but when you jump it flutters around!

JavamanJoJo.5609:

I’m pretty sure that’s Ehmry Bay because I saw that as well XD

It was in the Crystal Desert server lol, now everyone knows.

Fishbait.6723:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehSeGbg8vgU

:( Poor dontain.

Post your most terrifying/creepy Wintersday pictures here! Here is my own submission.

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Updated the OP to provide a bit of a warning.

Just recorded this while walking around in LA, and decided it was worth sharing. Just made me feel so… Wintersday inside

Dungin.2983:

arrownin.3128:

Mike.9451:

Word of advice: buy the mats now (if you need them) while they’re still cheap. The prices are going up now.

Yep, I anticipated that, which is why I bought a ton of them before I made this post

Sooo… How is this post still here then? Isn’t that a violation of code of conduct on forums? I’ve been infracted for 1/10th of what this infers.

To be honest I bought 750 of glue, and 750 of wads, I am not a rich guy, I just wanted to show people how to get this tonic, because I think it is cool. Right now all I have is 2 gold and 30 silver, along with 550 gems, so I’m not a big time economist. For all those that think that this is fake, two words, its not, I have all three tonics. Sorry, but RNG brings good and bad luck,.

Simple question for any devs out there willing to give us a quick answer. Will the popgun sound effects be updated to sound like an actual popgun, like how the sound effects for the Greatsaw were improved? I would be VERY grateful for a response.

Mike.9451:

Word of advice: buy the mats now (if you need them) while they’re still cheap. The prices are going up now.

Yep, I anticipated that, which is why I bought a ton of them before I made this post

edit: I bought them at 30c each, and it was after I put out this video, I was NOT trying to “seed the market” or any such thing.

While playing around on the diving board, I figured out that on female characters, the Fancy Winter set puffs up like a umbrella when you jump, and the character holds down the dress while falling so that it doesn’t fly up XD. Pretty funny and great detail.

• P.S. I’m not sure if any other dresses do this, so it might not be special.

Mike.9451:

Wow thanks!

Just a heads up to everyone… hes not kidding. This actually works.

Also: It took me 2 tries to get it. If you don’t get it the first time, you still get the frame back.

Thanks for the picture! As for recording me getting the tonic, I can’t be bothered to do that.

Awesome.6120:

arrownin.3128:

Doggie.3184:

More than 1 try?

It usually takes more than one try in the mystic forge before it’ll give you the endless tonic, there’s RNG in it, but the chance that youll get it is pretty high. Good luck!

So how do you get more frames for the second+ try?

If you don’t get the endless tonic it will give you a wintersday gift, which contains your frame, so you will never lose your frame until you get the endless tonic.

Doggie.3184:

More than 1 try?

It usually takes more than one try in the mystic forge before it’ll give you the endless tonic, there’s RNG in it, but the chance that youll get it is pretty high. Good luck!

Here’s my quick video showing off the Toy Princess tonic, and showing the recipes for all of the tonics, enjoy.

I’ll add a bit more detail, since some of you seem to be interested

Recipe for each one:

• 50 Wads of Enchanted Stuffing
• 50 Drops of Magic Glue
• One Pile of Glittering Dust
• Lastly, you will need one of the frames. The frame determines which Endless Tonic you will get, so for example if you wanted the Endless Princess Doll Tonic you would need the Princess Doll Frame

Note: From my experience, there’s about a 1/3 chance that you will get the endless tonic, so there’s some luck involved! However don’t worry, if you do not get the endless tonic, your frame will still be there, it will return to you in the Wintersday gift that you get from the Mystic Forge on failed attempts ALSO THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT, SO IT PROBABLY ISNT 1/3 CHANCE TO GET IT.

UPDATE: IMPORTANT WARNING
Apparently if you combine all the Endless Tonics in the Mystic Forge, you might get the Endless Golem Tonic instead of the Endless Toymaker Tonic. I cannot confirm this as I have no intentions of combining my tonics, but you might want to hold off on combining them for now.

Hello elementalists! I’m back again, and I want to use a staff, however I’m way too lazy to make a build myself so… Does anyone have a good staff build for supporting and or damage? Thank you if you have one! ^~^

(I was a bit sick in this week’s episode, sorry guys.)

I could use some support, I’ve started a weekly show dedicated to Guild Wars 2, covering news and cool builds, so uh, any feedback you can give would be great!

Edit: Just got the title today when I did it with a couple friends, it’s not bugged, it’s just really hard to find every last piece, and if you’re missing one… man good luck haha.

Oh golly there’s so many sights to see! I can’t wait to read all of the informative and constructive threads on this forum!

PvP and Income
I love to sPvP, but one thing is an issue. There’s not really a way to earn decent money from pvping. Just was weirded out because there is literally no way to earn good money, maybe this is a factor in the lack of pvpers. What happened to the zaishen chest and zaishen keys?

Chat Tabs
Theres not really any way to filter out LFG in chat, and since I go to Lions Arch to chat, the fractals spam is getting annoying. Guild Wars kept me playing so long because of the chats I had with people, so its a big deal. Map chat can be turned off to deal with fractals spam, but map chat is pretty much the best way to have conversations in LA. Big city, if I wanna roam around and chat I don’t see why LFG spam should interfere.
TLDR why you no lfg chat tab?

Well guys, I have a slight problem. That being: I have no idea how to use a torch, and I am halfway through making the legendary.

SOOO…. Using the magic of the Guardian forums, please explain the best ways to use a torch. Builds that use torch a lot would be awesome too. Thanks for helping

I thought necromancers stole it, with their cool minions and blood magic. Mesmers had a shot too, with teleportation and clones. But no. Necros were just a death wielding mage, mesmers were just butterfly wizards. As much as I enjoy summoning a horde of butterflies to feast upon my enemies, it was elementalist that stole my heart.

One Word; Versatility
I thought my engineer had the best. Little did I know ele is just miles ahead. Team support, like cradling a small kitten while firing a minigun. It doesnt matter if I use a staff to make those frisky AoE heals and effects, or if I use daggers and apply boons to my team, like a mother kissing an atom bomb before it blows up the dinosaurs. I can help others, while also murdering hundreds. Versatility, being able to switch from damage, to speed, to healing, to tanking in mere seconds. I am one of you all now, an elementalist. Now I will complete my initiation by drinking the blood of a thousand 100 blade warriors.

Alright, we all know that our rifles are actually shotguns undercover, so let’s see em. I wanna see the best shotgun skins out there! Why? Because I’m too lazy to look them up myself!

Hello again, I still would like to get this outfit back, the broom was awesome and it holds a lot of sentimental value, please get my costume back? q.q

Signet of Forums.4397:

arrownin.3128:

Signet of Forums.4397:

Wintersday is so commercial now. I miss the old days when it was just about drinking eggnog and bashing people with snowballs.

Eh, from the video I’d say yeah it does look commercialized, but I’m going to leave judgement for the live game.

You’re going to make me ruin the joke by spelling it out, aren’t you?

:P

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Hello there my fellow Tyrians!
The Season of the Colossus is coming to an end, bringing upon the warm Season of Zephyr, which means that Wintersday is upon us!

What is Wintersday?
Wintersday is the celebration of spring coming to Tyria, or in other words, what I stated above. It is the time for giving, and the time for destroying. The time for warming icy hearts by the fire, and the time for throwing the loving couple into the frozen lake. Whatever side you choose to celebrate, all of it is Wintersday celebration! Lions Arch has celebrated this holiday for generations, and it seems to have spread around the continent. The days of melting away your sorrows, and sitting by the fire with loved ones, sipping on spiked eggnog seems to have gotten popular. 200 some years ago, the gods Dwyanna and Grenth came from their realms to duke it out, to determine whether or not spring will come, or if winter will stay. However, now that the gods have left, we have a whole new set of changes, and hopefully, this guide can help us all grasp what’s waiting.

What Activities Are There?
Will fill in information when available.

Who is Toymaker Tixx?
Will fill in information when available.

Where is Wintersday Taking Place?
Will fill in information when available.

What New Items Are There?
Will fill in information when available.

What New Recipes Are There?
Will fill in information when available.

When Does Wintersday Start?
It will start on December 14th and will continue out until January 3rd.

Wintersday Footage
I will be posting links to my personal footage of Wintersday coverage at my channel on YouTube. (youtube.com/arrownin).
I will also link any footage that you all make within the thread, so make sure to get your cameras ready!

Wintersday Pictures
Please post any Wintersday screenshots that you have!

Signet of Forums.4397:

Wintersday is so commercial now. I miss the old days when it was just about drinking eggnog and bashing people with snowballs.

Eh, from the video I’d say yeah it does look commercialized, but I’m going to leave judgement for the live game.

On the second day of Wintersday my true love gave to me, two crispy asura ears, and a greatsaw to cut down all the sylvari…

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

While I understand the potential for disappointment as a fan of the original game, I also believe Guild Wars has room for both old and new traditions. We seized the opportunity to appeal to the classic Guild Wars fan with Halloween, so it feels right to me that Wintersday will cover some new ground.

It also makes a lot of sense given the fact that not only have the human gods been missing for some time, humanity itself is rather beaten back to a relatively smaller corner of Tyria. So I hope you’ll reserve your judgement until you see what the new version of Wintersday is all about.

Thanks for the response, I made this post after i saw the video and was sad that there wasn’t any grentch or snowmen, I know that theyre connected to the gods but the human ancestor in me hoped they’d be here. It does make sense that theres a change, and I am willing to give it a chance. I am just concerned for it, as going on wintersday in gw has been a tradition for me since i was 12. It’s part of my holidays. I’ll trust you guys, just please dont take advantage of it, and keep the wintersday, wintersday.

DiogoSilva.7089:

In the section where you claimed this event does not makes sense, you explained in a clear and simple way why this event makes sense (or better, why the old one doesn’t anymore).

I guess I meant, how did this holiday which was tradition for hundreds of years, become interpreted into asuras giving out toys?

Gilosean.3805:

This is an international outreach program by Asuras to impress other races with their skill and generosity without actually handing out anything valuable (i.e., weapons), who are taking advantage of Human culture.. I think it fits in perfectly with GW2 lore.

The Halloween event didn’t look like much either on paper, but once we were playing it was fun and lore-relevant. Please wait until something’s actually started before whining about it OK?

But in lore Asura are not nice! They aren’t! They are power hungry, devious little geniuses with the desire to control all of Tyria! The Halloween event showed the mad king and his tower, that was enough to please me, but having Santa Asura does not please me. AGHH

Revamped Post
After reviewing my original post, I think that I was more concerned about wintersday losing its feel, rather than it not being wintersday at all. I want there to be changes, and I am willing to give this new style a chance, I just hope that the original soul stays. The warm fires, the snow gently dancing downwards, the dark lighting and the snowmen. In game in gw1 I could feel myself colder while walking around, and feel myself warm up as I stood next to the fires. That romantic atmosphere of sleeping winter with rays of hope, that is the wintersday I grew up with. Now that the gods are gone, we have tixx, and I hope he can provide the same feel. I’m going to trust that anet knows how to make their game, and hope for the best. Sorry for the angry post earlier, I was just upset.

What I’d Like to See

• Candy Cane Weaponry
• Snowmen
• Eggnog
• Snowball Fights
• Wintersday PvP mode
• Ice Skating on Lions Arch’s frozen shores?
• Presents dropped by monsters
• Soloable Wintersday dungeon

What I’d like to Avoid

• Chests that drop special Wintersday items at low rates, bought from the gem store
• Wintersday Minis not available through direct purchase
• One time events
• Commercialization of Wintersday

Note; It’s Too Late Now
As of now, ANet has their patch pretty much planned and ready to go, so all of my concerns, suggestions, and etc will probably not matter all that much. All I am really doing at this point is worrying about something that is already set in motion, so really all we can do is hope for the best from this holiday.

edit; changed the title to match the thread.

My main issue with the Necromancer is that the CC that we have available seem a bit too conservative. Our CC feels more like a quick diversion, rather than a skill you use to lock down someone, or to stop them from getting away, or so on. I recently played an ele, and found that they can pretty much maintain chill on their target at all times, in addition to having tons of knock back, stun, blinds, and cripples. I played my engie and found that they have enough CC to keep their target in one place for about 9 seconds. Thieves can stunlock and root lock, warriors can too, guardian can knock back and root, mesmers not so much CC, and neither do rangers.

In any case, for being the class that “you can’t get away from” it seems like a lot of people are getting away from me. I haven’t touched my necro in a while, and I don’t know why, although I feel like this is my big issue. Thanks for reading, gotta go