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oh btw Sigil of paralyzation has been “nerfed/fixed” according to the live stream, it’s gonna be in the patch tomorrow.

That means quite less stun duration.

Nuorus.8415:

what about if Anet made it so you can’t chain stun someone and not perma blind someone. some kind of cd is needed.

some games have diminuishing returns.

On AoC at some point they revamped the cc system. And basically after a stun your had a 2-3second immunity to another Hard CC. So basically it removed the possibility of getting chain-feared/stun.

Carpboy.7145:

Since you said you tested it in WvW, did people cleanse a lot? If not pizza is better. Id even say its better even if they do have lots of cleanses, since the cleanses do have cool downs. Also making the fire on LB last longer is important, since the base durations from it are pretty low.

ye many build have good ways of cleansing.
I had a particular intense 1v1 with a good elementalist that kept removing condition quite easily. Managed a couple of time to bring hiw low enough, but his turtling away saved him his life.

Olba.5376:

Opportunist is only a better option for those 18 seconds that your Signet of Rage is not providing you with Fury.

the problem is also not having self-perma-swiftness. So I had to go for the 25% movement speed all the time instead of signet recharge. 18 secs of no +movement speed is a no go for me.

If I used Warhorn instead of sword off-hand, and so having Signet Recharge I would most likely use 10% crit on sword.

condition war with axe main hand and off-hand? Did I miss something I don’t know?

there is already a thread talking about “tanky” condi warrior here:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Condition-build-1/first#post3013135

ozmaniandevil.6805:

Thanks again. I appreciate the time you’re taking to explain everything. How’s this one?
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQNBJhFak0J4t4RFiJOggUohVxRhSwEqH2RdEHA-jEEB4LCi0yQUHgECAJPRM7JoJQJrMqIas6FYKToaXA6XQqYJ2aOxmzBydIryAUsFA-w

everything looks fine. Still like I said, I prefer valk/cavalier/bers to knight/soldier for this kind of build, since you will be losing crit dmg which is the main source of dmg from your skullcrack/100bcombo.

But 80% is good anyway. You are set to go, just need to practice the build in game now.

ps: Melandru are quite expensive, keep always in mind Hoelbrak they are a fine choice too.
Also keep always in mind the-condi duration food (the 36% one), you can never go wrong in wvw with that one.

so this is the starting gear I’ve been roaming with tonight for a couple of hours.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAscjikOMxBEkCNsKOPSilg8UKmj6A-jEyAoOBxcIhGbmEpaWENWlMkmBTxOkaHCRWNA-w

It has been a blast, didn’t expect to be this effective in wvw (I’ve played condi war only in spvp), and I don’t see myself going back to Power build anytime soon.

I’ve decided to go off-hand sword instead of warhorn for fun reasons. And to be more offensive.
Had to drop signet reachrge and go for 25% run speed, or I would have had 18seconds of no +movement speed at all. I would totally use signet recharge if I went Warhorn.

I might consider swap all armor for DIRE instead of RABID. And go from 42% base crit chance to 32%. While obviously reaching 24k hp.

32% (52% with perma fury up), still look pretty solid. But I’m still uncertain, I don’t want to lose offensiveness.

Still uncertain on the Food/Sigil

I’m using a sigil of Earth on main hand and doom/geomancy on the other 2 weapons. but they are just placeholders, before choosing something better.

Food I went Precision Oil, and – cond duration(defensive) on myself.

What do you guys suggest?

ozmaniandevil.6805:

OK, so for roaming, how is the following build? I used your help, atreyu, and changed out runes on armor; added war horn with mace. What do you think? For zerg fighting should I go with something completely different or will this be ok for both if I maybe swap out GS for LB?

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQNBJhFaE0J4t4RFiJOggUohVxRhSwEqH2RdEHA-j0DB4LCiUDRkWGI5JiJQDZtUqIasqGYqSJWZCV7CQ/CycOQeDIuDp2lATKgIWGB-w

Drop Mending get Signet (you have cleansing ire, stamina signet and berserk rage to fight conditions, and you can even run -cond duration food if u feel like it)

Runes of rage are “fine enough”, they are cheap. Consider Hoelbrak runes too if you want to spend a bit more. they are cheap aswell.

Dump that Food. Do you really wanna spend 31 silver per Hour? Get -condi duration food. The 36% one. Or some cheaper food. But hey if you are rich the food you have chosen is good.

You have a bit too much base crit chance in my opinions for a Mace/greatsword build.
Decrease crit chance to 30%, raise some of the other main stats.

Whats wrong with the sigils? You want these ones:
Sigil of paralyzation on the MACE
Sigil of impact on the GS
on the warhorn you can go for DOOM or ENERGY, or some other choices of your likings.

This is what you are looking for (With the gear you have chosen)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQNBJhFak0J4t4RFiJOggUohVxRhSwEqH2RdEHA-jEEB4LCi0yQ0HgECAJPRMBaIrlSFRjV1ATVKxKToaXA6XQmzBybAxdI1uEYyAssFA-w

So long story short:

The only thing left in my opinion, like I’ve already said, is that you can lower that crit chance to 30% and increase something else.

Replace the BACK item.

Consider another set of runes. Hoelbrak might be a good choice, not expensive. Melandrus too but they are expensive.

the base build of mace/Gs is among the best options for roaming, so all you need to do after setting it up, is learn to play (easy or hard as it might be, as people see it quite faceroll…)

For zerging probably mace/GS is not the best option at all. I think warriors runs Hammer or something, it surely isn’t bad.
I Don’t play that side of WvW anymore so can’t really say.

Carpboy.7145:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIMQNAscTjkOpwFPCPMRCEkCNsKOKSilQpYOsjUBxA-jEyAINBRaBIVJQ5wioxWNLiGrmBTlSEV7QKiWtUAQMHA-w

is leg specialist really needed? are you it taking for more chances of proccing fury?
Flurry and pindown should be enough for that.

Steelo.4597:

good spike combo is combustion shot -> pin down (arrives at the same time as combustion shot) -> smoldering while starting to close in -> fire fan at close range -> switch to sword -> autoattacks with sword untill 1 adrenaline bar -> flurry

thats with sword / warhorn / longbow

about using warhorn – rethink. it doesnt only massively cure conditions and is absolutely needed against condition builds if you dont run either fast hands and burst mastery or melandru and -condi duration food, but its a blast finisher on call to arms aswell (might) and applies 6 seconds of weakness which is an extra condition like torment and shuts down power bursts completely AND gives vigor. also it converts vulnerability into PROTECTION, just saying. and 100% swiftness uptime aswell is just icing on the cake. traited warhorn = most underrated warrior weapon imho, its simply amazing with +boon duration builds like 30 into tactics.

warhorn is great. I run that on my mace/gs build opposed to shield for obvious reasons.

But here I would have to replace the off-hand sword aaaaaargh.

what about runes? the build posted in here go for undead.

what about perplexity (even if we can’t interrupt, we can still apply on hit) Are they worth a try?

Shukay.3728:

shake it off… i take this no only for the condition remover but also for a 2nd break stun with low CD

well yeah thats fine enough.
You can also consider dolyak or endure pain, even if higher on CD, atleast you get other things along side with the break stun.
Since you already have one.

Shukay.3728:

for the 100b blades i don’t look for a full it.. but use 100b and spin for raise might and also do damage.

for a 100b i have:

F1 sword (ok is an immobilize but could work), 4 shield (20 CD), bull’s charge.

Yes i know the kitty side. but i like see Sword/shield… and also love mobility

Greatsword strenght is its 100b and its “charges abilities”. The auto attack is kinda meh, you ain’t raising much Might if you can’t land a proper 100b

And your best bet to land a full 100b is to keep it comboed with Flurry.

Make sure to skip flurry animation(by swapping weapons) as soon as you land it and 100b.

Really I would not even bother trying to 100b, with the shield stun.

Oswald Boulevard.1482:

The trait Warrior’s Sprint gives 25% movement speed while wielding melee weapons.

I was just wondering if it stacked with the swiftness from Warhorn #4 or any form of swiftness basically. Or is there some kind of cap on movement speed?

Thanks for the help!

the highest amount of speed will prevail. So if you have swiftness and this trait you will get only the movement speed from swiftness and that’s 33%.

asura master race

that’s all I have to say

well this is a spin off of the mace/Gs build. And a much weaker at that than the Mace counterpart. altough you gain that mobility.
Could I suggest you turning to the dark side of the mace? no? Oh well.

First thing that comes to my mind is to remove shield mastery and get cleansing ire.
And than Swap Mending for Signet.
there is a reason why every warrior and his dog run like that.
Now you can also replace shake it off, since the condition removal from cleansing ire should be decent enough for you to take another utility. Maybe signet of stamina.

btw: are you skipping flurry to 100b the immobilized target? that’s the only way I can see you landing a full 100b on anyone with half a brain with this weapon setup.
Just curious on how are you currently using 100b

Have you considered using Loaf of saffron bread, if you think warrior with that build are that much of a problem?

it’s -20% condition duration and -20% damage while stunned.

Carpboy.7145:

GS would be really really bad. Thats not even close to a reasonable trade off. Pin down will do 18k dmg with stacks and burn will do ~1kper sec. Id much rather have that over a 1200 and 600 sprint.

we can all agree that longbow grants the best condition dmg we can achieve coupled with our swords.

But I do not agree that it is not even a “reasonable” trade off.
The trade is between:
-Best damage achievable for condi war
-Best mobility achievable of all classes (aka halving, if not more your Deaths counter if that means something to you.)

Carpboy.7145:

Also one last thing about apothecary. We can regen almost 1kper sec with it. Thats a lot. Maybe it is worth trade?

How much healing can you achieve with FULL apothecary and 20 points into defense up to Cleansing Ire?

Like 1200healing?

1200 healing is something like 900 per second. (signet/adrenalx3/Regen banner)

200 healing (what you get with the defense traits) is something like 700 per second (signet/adrenalx3/Regen banner)

Is it worth?

and let’s not talk about the fact that if you plan to go that regen build, you are gonna spend 30 points into a tree with the worst Minor traits I’ve ever seen. Just to get a meh regen.

bring a kitten ton of stunbreakers.

LoenWulf.7631:

I’d say greatsword is definitely not worth it, I’d never trade the longbow for an escape move, you sacrifice a massive amount of damage and utility as greatsword doesn’t synergize well with a condi build and if you use one it’s purely for mobility.

it would be indeed for mobility only. No sane warrior would use it otherwise in a condi build.

And it is indeed a loss in terms of dmg, but a warrior gains the greatest mobility in game. And the ability to hit and run.

I dunno…I love the pindown from longbow and kitten.
But the possiblity to engage and leave when , how and whenever I want is really tempting me.

btw it’s WvW Im talking about here. I would never consider gs in spvp with these kind of builds. Just sayin’.

On a side note, about Regen warrior builds and Apothecary. In my humble opinion it is not worth.
It is a perfect noobs-stomper build.
When you are fighting competent people with decent dps, with poison flying around…well that little regen you gain by sacrificing stats for healing power and by going deep Tactics it’s not gonna do very much.

since this is about solo condition roaming build, I will throw this here.

Have you guys ever considered putting a greatsword as a GET OUT OF JAIL card, along with the usual Sword/Sword?

Sword/GS makes for the greatest mobility we can achieve as you know.

This mobility would make it possibile for the warrior to go for Squishier gear but more dmg potential (like RABID instead of DIRE…or hell going ball’s deep with something RAMPAGER like to make the most of out of the worlds of the 1h sword) since your defense is the ability to get the kitten out of problems almost whenever you want to.

Also on a side note, Greatsword is a great tool to chase running targets. And along the sword mobility and immobilize it would be REALLY hard to escape from such a warrior.

Fiorrello.8126:

personally i use this build it gives me great survivability and a wide range of counter combat options.

Whats the point of the 25% movement trait? You are using a Warhorn.

Dump it, get the 20% signet recharge. Perma swiftness up.

The only down trade is if someone manage to remove/steal/whatever your swfitness.

is that condi banner regen the build you are going for or?

for some hotjoining fun the evergreen mace/hammer can make people flip tables.

Nikkinella.8254:

And that is precisely why you and most other warriors fail. You rely on those formulas which mean absolute kitten . We test things out in game. what works on paper is never the same as how it works in game.

Player Character.9467:

Ya… I’ve run full zerker warrior in WvW, you don’t just randomly pull 30k 100b’s out of nowhere in wvw. This guy must have NO armor.

ye he said he goes around full zerker

Everytime I see a Rifle Warrior in WvW I die a little inside.

ozmaniandevil.6805:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQNBHhFaE0JFO5x6hJOggKohmHHBQUEqHwhbEHA-jEDB4fBCdEkUAk4AiIAI7JiJQDZtUqIasqaJVbDT5SQ2auIa1SBExwI-w
I would like to be able to handle 1v1, and I know skill has a lot to do with that, but is the above an ok build for 1v1?

short answer is no. With that you are gonna get your kitten handled to you by anyone who isnt terribad.

And running around with not even 1 stun breaker means that a cookie cutter mace/GS warrior is gonna stomp you in one single skullcrack/100b. Or you are gonna get thrown around like a toy by those running with hammers.

Jump on the Mace/whatever&Greatsword train and enjoy steamrolling almost trough anything in 1v1.

Or an Hammer/whatever build. that’s pretty faceroll too.

Or if you want to join the hipsters-warriors ranks, then go Condition dmg with swords/whatever

ozmaniandevil.6805:

Can you suggest armor/weapons/runes and trinkets for both? Right now I’m using mostly Valkyrie weapons with a mixture Knight/Berserker armor – basically went all out for critical damage in PvE.

first you need a build, then you build the gear around it.

With the armor you already have you are almost good to go for Mace/whatever&Greatsword.

A mix of Valkyrie/berserk/cavalier.
-Pimp out your critical damage for obvious reasons
- get yourself to 30% critical chance (or that’s what I like aiming for, without counting fury)
- The rest goes to Toughness/vitality

Building your gear around what you already have (berserk armor and valkyrie weapons NO ASCENDED)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIQQNBhSDbk0J4t4RFiJOggUohVxRhSwEqH2RdEHA-j0xA4LB5kHREb6DTxgpKB0nLq2bUEtaA-w
Something like this is perfect for solo roaming, and 1v1 in wvw. (food, runes and sigils left out). Pretty much as competitive as it gets.

Well it looks solid enough to me.

Not really sure about the gear choice. I would rather stick to mainly conditions and be that little bit more tankier. So Rabid/Dire depends what you want to be.

The utilities are pretty much standard also.

You might also consider a warhorn opposed to the shield. I’ve been roaming with a warhorn and I don’t see myself going back to the shield (but it’s still good).

if you go warhorn you can also drop the 25% movement speed trait, since you will achieved perma swiftness from elite+warhorn.

And so you can get something like Mobile strikes which can come in handy.

On a side note, that 100b was quite hurtful, are you running around naked?

Nikkinella.8254:

I regen for 1500

Lol you regen what?

A warrior can self buffed regen something around 900 per second. ( a bit more, depends on how much healing you achieve)

and that’s only IF:

staying at 3 stages of adrenaline or that regen per second drop.

Being FULL +healing (like full apotechary and kitten)

Being Banner regen specced, so spending 30 points into tactics. (LoL)

according to the forums warriors are:

op, fotm, faceroll, “zomg anet nerf pls!!1noeoneshift+!!1”

while elementalist are:

unplayable, broken, “zomg anet buff plz!oneshift+11!!”

So if you go along the road you know where to head…

but, pick the one you enjoy playing the most, buff and nerfs come and go.

Gran Turismo: Guild Wars edition

Daendur.2357:

bb, enjoy your fotm class

Said the thief?

If only this was a Racing game.

that thief was playing really bad, but I feel sorry for any players that have to 1v1 a mace/hammer build.

I switched to mace/shield and hammer yesterday. Checked now this thread and I see that the build is pratically 100% the same as this one (every single big traits and small one).

But I’m not using Lyssa runes and or that Jewelry (I was using Melandru + Soldier).
I will give yours a try.

stefanplc.5234:

- I’m not going to get into arguments over Healing Signet. I currently view it as too good and even though I played around with it, I don’t want to touch it. I think it’s going to get nerfed soon and I don’t want to get used to playing with it. I think Healing Surge and Mending are in pretty good spots and that’s what I use. I’ve seen plenty of bad and confused warriors get carried by it because their opponents simply could not DPS through the 800-900 HPS it provides together with Adrenal Health.

I can totally see this. I might be one of those warriors lol.

I guess if you are aiming to be an annoying as hell to kill warrior this could work.

But in spvp you have both kind not so good dmg AND/OR 0 hard CC(aside some good roots). Basically an almost no-threat target.

In WvW I can’t see this killing any Roamer with half a clue (while not dying to them either tou).
Luckily enough WvW is not very much full with that kind of people.

When a Thief calls you a coward. You know you have seen enough GW2 for the day.

Azrhaell.1724:

Plz can some1 help me to make a good Condition build for Warrior? Mb this build?

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAscTjkOpwtQGPMxBEkCNsKOPSipg8UKsjNE-TsAAzCpI+SFkLITQygsBNCYVxkAA

I’ve been running a similiar build (actually it’s the exact same points spent, but some different trait choices)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAscTjkOBvtQWPMxBCkCsUlzjksEyrUMn6A-TgAAzCpIaS1krJTTymsNB

having a ton of fun with it, nice gameplay. And I feel like a powerhouse in random spvping.

But probably any build if played with half a brain works well enough in there.

Vanthian.9267:

Rush is buggy at best when using it to actually close a gap. All you have to do is move left to right a couple of times and it will bug out and miss.

illusionary leap it’s as bad when the terrain is not perfectly plain.

From what we might know those 2 could be two backpeddlers-keyboard-turning-mouseclicking-vietnam-veteran-without-a-limb-kind-of-player.
A match that could be easily winnable “even” with your war.

The mesmer might or not be op, but one thing sure is this thread is quite stupid.

Dawdler.8521:

Oh the horror, Mesmer has vigor on crit?!?! NEEEEEEEEEEEERF!!!

It’s like almost every class have that trait btw lol

I always find amusing that the thief stolen version of the warrior whirling is actually better than the original skill.

zTales.4392:

If they could just fix Fast Hands … I’d be happy… >.<

Pretty much this. It’s like the most annoying bug, for one of our best trait (imho).

28k bladetrail? I do not use a 2h sword, for I do not enjoy the gameplay. B

But that seems way too high for that skill. Seems strange.

Some people really cares too much about being defeated.

Grow a pair, equip some melee weapons, and drop that Longbow. You are a warrior, not a kittening Indian (Im joking, but you get the point).

Melee is MORE than viable in WvW.

Underwater PvE.

THIEF > WARRIOR

Not even thinking about it twice.

Polearm , spear…something long! LoL

Those lvl 24 mobs are pretty hardcore I have to admit.

Hahahaha, this is a joke