Guild Wars 2

mini.6018:

Who brings a mace to a zerg fight?It’s like bringing a knife to a gun fight only instead of guns they use bazookas.Skullcrack is single target and counterblow it’s wack in a zerg fight.Also no stability? How are you planning to cc your enemies if you are stunlocked yourself ?

Also this.

Missing stability

Mace is pretty much pointless in zerg-warfare.
Get a sword – shield/warhorn for mobility+utility.

And Dogged March is much MUCH better than Sure-Footed.
You are almost immune (almost) to Chill/Immobilize/Cripple , with your melandrus runes and that Food and dogged march.
And this is quite important especially in zerging where those condis are flying around like nothing.

Thank you for linking us a build which has been linked in this forum for atleast a couple of months if not an year.

And a bad one at that. Cleansing ire is probably the best Trait we have. You are taking the worst healing skill out of the three we have, just to get some condi removal which would be TOTALLY out-classed by simply having Cleansing Ire, and on top of that having the possibility to run HealSign or HealingSurge.

And why? To get Defy Pain. LoL.

Defy Pain is not worth it. Not at all.
Hammer builds are DoggedMarch(debatable, your choice) – Cleansing Ire(Mandatory) – Merciless Hammer (Quite mandatory)

shishike.3958:

geez its 1200 range?

hmmmm

what i’m using must be a second hand skill.

200000000 range Earthshaker. Anet plz. I want to stun people in WvW from Lion’s Arch.

Butnaked.9287:

As long as you understand the difference. Things that happen in wvw are impossible in spvp. Devs shouldn’t even consider wvw when they talk balance.

Okay, but WvW is still part of the game. If a class it’s OP (not talking about anything in specific here) in one or the other game mode, Anet is probably gonna do something about it, no matter what they balanced the game around.

Butnaked.9287:

dmg in wvw needs to be token with a grain of salt. I have hit someone with an AUTO ATTACK for 3k on a crit. But this guy was obviously a bolstered 80 with some vul on and I had guards hiting me with might. At the other end of the spectrum I have come across engineers and could only get 400-700 dmg on those same auto attacks.

Ofc.
But 3k/5k ES (depending on the amount of toughness) are like ES normal crit for a Cavalier/Berz geared WvW Hammer Warrior.
Im not talking about bolstered new players, any kind of might stacking and im not taking numbers out of my kitten .
I fraps my wvw fights quite regularly, and I went to check them clips for exact numbers before replying.

Cogbyrn.7283:

And you can still get Merciless Hammer + Unsuspecting Foe. You might not be able to get Burst Mastery. But how much of your total damage on a target is from ES? Tell me, and I’ll tell you how much a 20% nerf entails.

I can tell you that ES, the biggest hitter for hammer (not by tooltip, but via traits. by tooltip it’s Backbreaker…but via traits ES deals more dmg, has 7 or so seconds of CD, it’s a guaranteed crit it hits up to 5 people AND the stun)

And it has received a damage nerf that goes from a maximum of 45% less damage (no Merciless Hammer, yes Burst Mastery/Unsuspecting Foes) to a minimum of 20% (at the cost of the guaranted crit from Unsuspecting Foes).

It seems like a big deal to me.

Now if we talk about if it really deserved the nerf or not. That’s another story.
Because in my opinion it totally did deserved it. And I’m an hammer warrior.

Cogbyrn.7283:

Can someone explain why 20% damage reduction to ES and a 23% damage reduction to Staggering Blow is a “huge nerf” for hammers? I’m not kidding. Explain it. Go through the details of how it severely nerfs Warriors who use the Hammer. Please.

it’s not just those alone.

it’s those nerfs to damage + not having an easy access to unsuspecting foes + Merciless hammer (you need cleansing ire as MASTER trait)

ES with unsuspecting foes + merciless hammer it’s a guaranteed crit + 25% dmg each time, and on 5 targets.

Unsuspecting foes and merciless hammer are pre-calculated.

ES can easily crit for 4k/5k in WvW with a berz/Cav. Now it will be 20% less damage AND probably you are not gonna have unsuspecting foes or merciless hammer.

Unless you sacrifice Burst Mastery for em. Cleasing Ire is a MUST have, so Im not even considering putting it into the mix.

I will maintain the Hammer build for wvw roaming.

It was godlike before nerfs (can’t say it didn’t deserve it).

It will be probably more challenging to use, but most likely still a pretty strong Build.
We will see.

SuKHoi.2063:

Since the warrior is going to be nerfed to the ground, I’m considering switching to my guardian as my WvW’er. Anyone else having the same thoughts?

No.

They might have taken our Unsuspecting Foe…

But they will never take OUR FREEEEEEEEEEDOM

Ryan.8367:

Lol…. kitten , hammer is pretty strong when used right

“when used right?” Nope, just smash random keybinds -> proceed to collect bags.
When u use it right hammer war becomes god tier.
That’s how insanely strong (if not OP) is an hammer warrior in WvW.
I’m an hammer/sword warrior too btw.

I don’t get why so much hate on the video. The guy plays his hammer war pretty good, maybe most of his opponents weren’t exactly the best players out there, but anyway.

risenlord.2035:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAjnn9qRI_Q

warrior using healing surge

Im not sure if you posted a 10/set/2012 dated video on purpose or not.

Peow peow.2189:

Seriously after reading all these nerf threads you people have it wrong.. I was fighting a thief in spvp with my heal signet on (600 reg) and we were ranging from far , now u c I have 30 in defence but this little grunt could still damage me , max defence shud mean 0 dmg.

I mean he barely got me down 2k go before I hammer stunned him into next year but I feel defence trait is not strong enuf.
Plz implement portal and stealth on warrior next patch

Aren’t you a bit too old for this kind of trolling(bad ones at that) threads?

mini.6018:

I guess at this rate warriors should just run arround naked kitten slapping ppl with their bare hands soon enough

Op.

Remove Warrior’s hands.

Full berserk is a bit too much squishy. But that’s not the main problem.
You have 0 condition removal. That’s quite the problem there.
Also Axe nowadays is a rather lacking pvp Weapon unfortunately. I would stay away from it if I were you. unless you really love it and wanna play it no matter what.

My suggestion is to rethink the build, there are many threads about roaming builds in here. Go check them.

GOSU.9574:

Laeir.5197:

I think zerg-ball is now mostly PTV. Starter gear is Invader’s/Soldier’s from tokens and Soldier’s accessories from an open Grenth temple.

Zerg-ball is all PVT/PTV yeah, so unless someone has more info I will probably go with the balanced Knight armor Valk trinks, old school balance. I don’t like to zerg much, do various things in small snippets.

I solo roam Hammer / Sword with this setup of Valk/Berz/Cav

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQFACGAQPAAAuOFUS9AAAiD-jUyAYfgkHU6jIjtCWENWFDm+MpKXAVck9GKryAsMBA-w

Here you can see 2 (3v1) fights with that exact same Gear Setup I linked

other good ways to gear up for that spec, but this setup works great.

a t s e.9614:

The
Problem with warrior right now it’s even terribl players can win

I seriously doubt good mesmers, good thieves or whatever get rolled by terrible warriors.

I seriously, seriously doubt it.

And maybe if they do…it is probably because the player behind the “OP” warrior might (MIGHT) not be so terrible as you tought, and actually be as good as you as a player?

“you” used as in general speaking

a t s e.9614:

Well if the thief is so good I wonder why nobody uses them and
There’s at least 4warriors per match in SoloQ .

that’s another thing. When warior was garbage in sPvP. and Thief were actually top notch in it there was still the HP difference.

It’s the mmo-wheel turning. Now it might be the warrior turn, tomorrow might be another class turn. Welcome to MMOs, you might be new around here.

Fungalfoot.7213:

Almost a thousand health passively recovered per second? That’s not overpowered. That’s just pure skill.

that’s not overpowered, not even pure skill. I’ts just bullkitten.

Last time I checked it’s not a kittenty regen warrior build rocking the sPvP queues.

And even for WvW roaming, good warriors don’t roll around in lame regen builds.

That’s what clowns do and make videos fighting clueless people to impress other clueless people. (any reference to the “unkillable warrior” thread is is purely coincidental)

Abhor.5602:

I always laugh when I see a fellow warrior using offhand axe.

Which is so kittening sad… Since Axes for me are the coolest weapons.

a t s e.9614:

There’s actually no reason for a thief to have 10k hp . No stunbreak ,
No block , no protection , no passive signet . I just don’t understand
What’s the reason to have 20k hp on a warrior with 0 vitality .

U see no reasons why they have 10k hp?

maybe the fact that many of their specs revolve around constant stealthing?

maybe the fact that they can get access to regen/protection via stealing without even speccing for it like a regen war needs to(without even having protection)?

or maybe the possibility to achieve probably more than half of a warrior dodging capabilities, via traits/weapon skills(like sword/dagger for an example)?

Or maybe the possibility to avoid a good part of attacks thanks to blind with off hand pistol.

You are very right! I see no reason why thieves have 10k hp! Infact I think ANET hates thieves thats why they gave em 10k hp! Yes, that must be it.

Thieves main defense is trough avoidance ( be it Blinds, stealth, major dodges or a mix of these depending on how are you specced)

Warriors main defense is soaking up damage.

SplendidDust of AncientSuns.8453:

Never go over 2800 armor? Seriously? You will be a rally bot for sure with that mentality. It just won’t cut it.

what are you talkibg about, wvw? probably the warrior that runs in blobs spamming 11111111111111 MIGHT want more than that. (MIGHT, because I do not really know, as I do not play wvw that way anymore).

Anything else around 2800 is more than fine.

The warrior class may need a tone down.

But for the love of god, I hope ANET do not listen to people like the OP, the kind of players that can’t even understand why Thieves have 10k HP.

I would chose charr for their Heavy cultural armor. (so kittening kitten)

Asura for their awesomness as a race and probably the best animations (especially with 2handed weapons)

But you decided to go plants or boring humans meh…

Natsu Dragneel.1625:

Alrighty, so its been a while since I last played my warrior and I wanted to dust it off and give it a run in WvW,

I currently have a full set of berserker armor/trinkets/weapons, mostly plan to use great sword + mace/shield

I would like to know your suggestions for runes to use and where to put my traits, I’m currently sitting at x/x/x/x/20 with 50 points left over (I like having the movement break immobilise)

I’m thinking of putting 20 in arms for forceful great sword, and that leaves me with x/20/x/x/20 with 30 left over, I am also considering putting them into defence for dogged march, cleansing ire and defy pain traits.

any advice would be great =p

I’ve ran in solo/duo roaming that build u are looking for with this setup:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQFABGQQK0wq4oQJYC1D7oOiDA-jUyAYfgkHU6jIjtMWENWFDm+MpKXAVck9GKryAssFA-w

other ways to Gear depending if u want to go more offensive or less, but you can’t wrong like this.
Pretty standard and all the stats u need to run such a build.

Also I might suggest giving the Warhorn a try instead of the shield.
I started shield, then went warhorn for perma swiftness and vigor is nice too.

I must say Im not seeing lots of GS/Mace warriors like before anymore, but it might be me.
Me myself have not run this build since the Paralization sigil nerf, so I dunno if GS/Mace is still up there.

how much his Condis were hitting for? I would say a power build, with GS for mobility and getting in/out of fights.

skill 3 Longbow crits for around 5k on a heavy golem with just around 2100 / 50% crit dmg in spvp.
So since in WvW it’s possibile to reach easily 100% crit dmg and even more power I would say you died because u didn’t expect that kind of damage from the longbow.

I can’t see how he could use 100b effectively with that setup, apart comboed with PinDown.

Since u said his main form of dmg was from LB, I wouldn’t ignore the possibility he also went 20 into tactics for Burning Arrows.

Supreme.7352:

Okay, why do people keep posting WvWvW vids to show how “broken” a class is instead of SPvP?

well it’s easy!

Because in WvW the chance to meet completely clueless AND undergeared people is is actually much, much higher!

So it’s easier to make videos exploiting this sad truth.

PookieDaWombat.6209:

Sooooo, what are these 3 magic runes? Seriously, lots of cryptic talk but no proof in the way of a tangible build for others to try for themselves.

THE MAGIC RUNES!

Shonuff.2354:

She kept just out of my range most of the time with that darn “clicking” trick she uses and just kite fighting.

You gotta be more subtle if you wanna keep trolling man. You are just giving it away like this.

jayson.6512:

I smell anet will nerf us after watching this video.

Im pretty sure Anet is laughing at this video as much as I am doing.

if you are talking about PvP I do not see Signet of Might as a good choice at all:

One can never go wrong with the evergreen Trinity:

Balanced stance
Berserker Rage
Endure Pain

It also depends on your build, if you have Signets recharge you might prefer DOLYAK instead of Balanced stance.

You might also drop Endure Pain to get something else if you wants more utility and less defensive options.

Bow Centric? Hmm does not seems something that would work very good…

but Condi warriors use bow to a great extent. Swords/X – Longbow. You are gonna use the bow a lot.

that could be your best bet

kitten hammer/gs.

Make a video with Off-Hand Axe only in Condition dmg gear. Now that would be worth watching.

Far from “completely useless”, you might lack the CC (which have seen a nerf due to the normalization of para sigil).
You still have great soft-control trough probably the best immobilizes, and great damage (a condi war can easily stack up 20bleeds, with bursts up to 25 and without even counting the burning)

you can also try a CONDI WAR build.

It’s very effective in roaming, and it is one of the most fun I’ve had playing my warrior (played all dem builds Mace/Gs, Axes build back in 2012, hammer builds etc etc)

Shonuff.2354:

perhaps post your vids doing the same or better then this.

Doing better than what exactly?

MiLkZz.4789:

The only thing I found off in the videos is a racist redneck talking about imaginary chinese people thinking he was the best player in the world.

yea kinda toxic attitude.

voidwater.2064:

Nothing impressive in that video, just an all-in regen warrior with no stun breaks, being carried by NPCs + fighting enemies with low damage.

nerf anet! plx1!1oneshift+1!!!!1

Hahaha, nerf the rifle. Remove it all togheter while you are at it. I Don’t care, and Im pretty sure most warriors don’t either.

The problem in this video (like in the previous one, but those were even worse) is the 2 people “dpsing”.

Dand.8231:

Axe 5 is still best, as you can run around spinning in town all day XD

How in hell? I can’t seem to be able to do it

Another build where CELESTIAL might actually be kind of a great Gear, it’s with a lame kitten Hammer build based on the Perplex Runes.

You have got it all: power/critdmg/crit for the hammer. And Condition dmg for dem huge stacks of Confusion.

Desperate power was changed too?

I always knew it was 50% hp

Aqua Team.5476:

Okay, and do you think comming back to GW2 is worth it? I fell like ill just put in more hours just to get bored and try and find a new mmo.

I think that even if you might get bored again (depends on you only) but you still had fun in the month or less/more you played.
Well, then It is ALWAYS worth it.

Unless you are the kind of guy that think you are investing time into something you might not play for long enough.

well if you want to do PVE and use a shield AT ALL COST.

Your best bet is:
Axe/shield – Greatsword

Keep in mind the pve meta last time I checked used an Axe AND a greatsword. But if you don’t care about MAXIMUM dps. You can have fun rolling around with a

Axe/shield – Axe/mace build

And be just fine.

Sword is a condition weapon with SOME power.
So seems like you are not very interested in it.

are you talking about pve, spvp, wvw? everything?

Long story short:

There are more instances (fractals)
Some revamped old dungeons.
New open world encounters.
New gear and new ways of getting it.

Warrior is a fun class, especially if you like melee. (while we still have ranged options), the melee array of weapons we have at our disposal is quite vast.
Some more some less viable but hey!

Also we have a good choice between condi and power build.
The class is not underpowered by any means.

Asmodal.6489:

If you use celestial on a condition build with ss/lb you pretty much sacrafice condition damage (-300 to -500) for around 60% crit damage while maintaining pretty good values on all stats (like 2700 attack, 40% Crit chance, 2600 armor, 22k hp)
with a lot of room for tweaking it into the direction you like.

you bascially get a better spread between direct and over time damage.
you end up with around 400 healing power which might be considered as wasted points though.

seeing the OPs build i do not really know how you are going to kill someone with that. your power is way to low. your armor way to high. your condition damage nowhere near to apply enoguh pressure.

Pretty much agree.

CELESTIAL is actually a really decent option for a classic condition build with Sword/Longbow, Since you also use power on those weapons.

But for everything else? Meh.

While I don’t use celestial, or not even have it.

I must say that for a SWORD/whatever – LONGBOW build, celestial can give some pretty “interesting” stats.

As both those weapons have Condi/power potential.

I would totally give it a try for roaming , IF I had a free celestail set. xD

only thing is that HealingPower I do not like it one bit.

Deiku.9037:

Here’s my warrior, working to get human T3 cultural armor because it’s the set that would best suit him i think, but for now this skin is nice

dat dramatic look

Scoobaniec.9561:

Nihilus.3015:

And a double cooldown if you miss

And 20 skills in gs at once.

icwutdidthar

Anyway guys, yes, you can’t balance 2 skill in the same way, even if they are about similiar, when they work in 2 different sets.
I mean one is a skill available to a 5 skill set weapon. The other is a skill available to a 20skills set weapons combo.

I wouldn’t rework rush, just polish it (a lot). So kittenin buggy when used offensively.