There is a trade system … the TP. It exists so you don’t get scammed.
You have a signature that says “anet, please stop treating players like idiots” and then say stuff like players will be scammed. Lol
I think most people have forgotten that we also dont want map chat filled with
WTS 200*silk
WTB DAWN
WTS omnomberries CHEAPEST PRICE ON THE SERVERYeah its one of the reasons I love GW2, no obnoxious WTS/WTB. Even games that has dedicated trade channels will see main chat flooded with it because people are idiots.
I still never had this problem in GW1, people claim that map chat was filled with this stuff in GW1 but it really wasn’t. Trade chat existed and if you tried to say selling or wts or buying or wtb or any of those types of things it automatically put your message in trade chat.
The scamming side of things is also stupid. You can’t be scammed in GW1… the trade window makes you approve both your and your trade partners trade. If they make a change after you approve you then you need to approve it again. So I guess you CAN be scammed if you’re too lazy to check their trade after they change it but then that would be your own fault.
The only ets that didn’t suck were the earlier ones aetherized, dreamthistle and fused. It has been all down hill since then
I did one of the achievements on my beta character, didn’t transfer to my main account. Basically.. they are a waste of time.
No, underwater combat sucks. Anet refuses to balance it and as seen by the fact that none of the new weapon sets have underwater versions it is obvious they are trying to phase it out.
They where never available as armorskins, only as townclothes. Townclothes have been replaced by outfits, which cover the entire body (head-item can be hidden).
If using medium armor, you could get the http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Eagle-Eye_Goggles
to unlock it in your wardrobe, create an engineer in a free character slot (not beta!) and choose the goggles. Once unlocked you can delete the character again to use the slot for other purposes.
My aviator sunglasses and reading glasses that I use as armor all the time say that yes, they are skins.
What is the point of them if they don’t carry over into the real game?
This is another really simple one http://gw2.limitlessfx.com/
Thank god! Now maybe people will stop complaining new content only takes 1.5h to complete and has no element of excitement and achievement and discovery, because they’ll have to try to figure out how to do it themselves :P I honestly don’t know why Anet gives content to Dulfy as early as they do because she just puts a step by step faceroll it guide as soon as they release anything.
Things I figured out on my own like princess hunt and living story achievents – that was really fun.
Dulfys guides are always out several hours after the release…. In fact I am always already done before her guides come out. Which means I completed the content before Dulfy could make a guide.
So the content must actually be very easy and short. Maybe people who couldn’t do it by then need a guide though. Not everybody enjoys wandering around randomly looking for gold coins. Not everybody enjoys jumping puzzles. Not everybody enjoys the things you enjoy. I know it is a hard concept for somebody so00 amazzzing to understand.
http://gw2timer.com/ with a whole bunch of other useful tools.
I’ll just add a little clarification just in case, because I have noticed that some people do not know what SMS is.
SMS is the very basic text message that is a basic function in every mobile phone.
True but apparently not all players want to have a mobile phone.
And, of course, you need no mobile phone to use the SMS option, as you can specify voice for landlines.
Not all landline nets are capable of sending/recieving sms over landlines. Also not all phones for landlines are capable of sending/recieving sms.
So if this is made something that is required of all users, they should add a third option.
An easy and reletive cheap system is where you recieve a phonecall and an automated voice reads your code out loud.
I do agree that two way authentification is needed and important, but it has to be in such a way that everyone can use it
You do know that you can use the Authenticator for two way authentification? And you can use WinAuth for that. WinAuth runs on any Windows-Computer. And now don’t tell me someone who’s playing GW2 might not have a Computer…
Using winauth is NOT true two way authentification and has the same issue as an email. It is run on the same computer you play on. So if someone’s security is breeched, it is just as bad as recieving the email. The only advantage is that winauth on itself is much more secure then email.
Two way authentification means you are using two physical devices, so a potential hacker has to hack his way into both.
And all 3 options are kitten.
1- Anet now has my cell phone number.
2- Anet now has my landline number.
3- I’ve now been forced to install shady software because I don’t want to give a company my phone number.I’ll be honest with you.
I can understand that it is not nice that you are forced to give your phone number. But having the game poluted by goldsellers cause people are using insecure measures are not nice either. So if you don’t use any two-way authentification and you personally don’t care bout your own security and getting hacked, I do believe, the harm done to the community still justifies it.So assuming (which really is going to be the case) that two way authentication IS going to be required (cause it is needed for the community as a whole). What alternatives that sattisfy you are valid? Keep in mind it has to be two ways (so two devices used).
So the current system of an email is not cutting it.Also if non of the offered ways are a valid option for you, I think it would be perfectly ok to discuss it with support. I even can imagine that in certain occasions they are willing to bypass the rule (for example after you have proven to use very secure passwords and different passwords on both your email and game, and have shown your other measures like firewalls are up and running)
Or that they give you some kind of compensation (depending on the age of your account and individual purchases) if you have very strong reasons to quit playing over this.Bottom line is that 2 way authentication is needed for the game and should be the standard. In extreme situations support is always there to give personalised solutions.
Game polluted by gold sellers? How often do you actually run into gold sellers? I run into one or two once a week or so. They usually spam me in whispers and a quick block solves the problem.
Instead of artificially making people think their accounts are safe through shady practices like collecting peoples phone numbers, maybe anet should be teaching people proper security. Like requiring better passwords and encouraging different passwords for different things.
This is just going to replace the “gold seller” support tickets with “I lost my winauth code, I can has game back nao?!” support tickets.
There is nothing shady about asking for your phone number. They have an agreement with you to not sell your personal information. They are bound by law to not sell your personal information with that agreement.
So unless you can actually come up with some actual evidence of different things being shady, stop trying to spread misinformation.
LOL bound by law, I can’t even. The level of hilarity. Have fun, I hope the telemarketers at least leave you alone in the middle of the night. Though I doubt it because they’ll probably be calling from some 3rd world country in a different timezone.
Anyone else have the sneaking suspicion that some people are opposed to SMS because it will make it harder for them to steal other people’s accounts?
Maybe I’m just a cynic, but when you can’t form a coherent reason for disliking something it always makes me think the worst about the real reason you are opposed to it.
No, I’m opposed to it because giving my phone number to corporations is contrary to security and safe internet use. Which it is allegedly promoting. Just like I won’t give out my phone number to random people on the street. I don’t need people I don’t know calling me when anet sells my phone number. You can make baseless unproveable claims that they don’t sell phone numbers but that is meaningless to me and to anybody who knows better than to trust a corporation with their personal information.
I am also opposed to the alternative using winauth because well winauth is a piece of crap.
I’ll just add a little clarification just in case, because I have noticed that some people do not know what SMS is.
SMS is the very basic text message that is a basic function in every mobile phone.
True but apparently not all players want to have a mobile phone.
And, of course, you need no mobile phone to use the SMS option, as you can specify voice for landlines.
Not all landline nets are capable of sending/recieving sms over landlines. Also not all phones for landlines are capable of sending/recieving sms.
So if this is made something that is required of all users, they should add a third option.
An easy and reletive cheap system is where you recieve a phonecall and an automated voice reads your code out loud.
I do agree that two way authentification is needed and important, but it has to be in such a way that everyone can use it
You do know that you can use the Authenticator for two way authentification? And you can use WinAuth for that. WinAuth runs on any Windows-Computer. And now don’t tell me someone who’s playing GW2 might not have a Computer…
Using winauth is NOT true two way authentification and has the same issue as an email. It is run on the same computer you play on. So if someone’s security is breeched, it is just as bad as recieving the email. The only advantage is that winauth on itself is much more secure then email.
Two way authentification means you are using two physical devices, so a potential hacker has to hack his way into both.
And all 3 options are kitten.
1- Anet now has my cell phone number.
2- Anet now has my landline number.
3- I’ve now been forced to install shady software because I don’t want to give a company my phone number.I’ll be honest with you.
I can understand that it is not nice that you are forced to give your phone number. But having the game poluted by goldsellers cause people are using insecure measures are not nice either. So if you don’t use any two-way authentification and you personally don’t care bout your own security and getting hacked, I do believe, the harm done to the community still justifies it.So assuming (which really is going to be the case) that two way authentication IS going to be required (cause it is needed for the community as a whole). What alternatives that sattisfy you are valid? Keep in mind it has to be two ways (so two devices used).
So the current system of an email is not cutting it.Also if non of the offered ways are a valid option for you, I think it would be perfectly ok to discuss it with support. I even can imagine that in certain occasions they are willing to bypass the rule (for example after you have proven to use very secure passwords and different passwords on both your email and game, and have shown your other measures like firewalls are up and running)
Or that they give you some kind of compensation (depending on the age of your account and individual purchases) if you have very strong reasons to quit playing over this.Bottom line is that 2 way authentication is needed for the game and should be the standard. In extreme situations support is always there to give personalised solutions.
Game polluted by gold sellers? How often do you actually run into gold sellers? I run into one or two once a week or so. They usually spam me in whispers and a quick block solves the problem.
Instead of artificially making people think their accounts are safe through shady practices like collecting peoples phone numbers, maybe anet should be teaching people proper security. Like requiring better passwords and encouraging different passwords for different things.
This is just going to replace the “gold seller” support tickets with “I lost my winauth code, I can has game back nao?!” support tickets.
oh, also, a false positive from a crappy anti virus is also not a valid reason to call the authenticator as being shady. I once used an antivirus that called the Guildwars 2 file you download to install the game as malware, and that file came right from Arenanet.
Even more reason to not share my phone number with them or install shady software they recommend. Thanks for confirmation.
You do not understand how antivirus work do you? False positives are not uncommon, and almost usually happen on the crappy ones or the free ones.
And what does your phone number have anything to do with a false positive from a crappy or free malware protection system?
Again, there is nothing shady about it. Where are you even getting the information that it is shady? Because the only person I saw that called it shady is because their free malware protection system said it was, but never mind that better quality and not free malware protection systems do not give a false positive on it. And again, it is open source, which means anybody can look through that code and can find anything shady about it, which nobody has found any. So the fact is, calling it shady is an outright lie with absolutely no proof to back it up.
It is shady because it doesn’t save the code… What are you talking about?
More importantly giving my phone number to a company would have to be one of the dumbest things I’d ever do in my life if I did it.
If not wanting to play with players who aren’t like-minded and don’t have the same goal as me is elitist than I don’t know what to tell you. You expect everybody to play like you but then get all kitten when other players who have different opinions want to play with only like-minded players. Sounds more like you’re the elitist who thinks they are better and right. We’re not trying to convert anybody, just keep them out of our parties. You’re actively trying to ruin our runs and join us even though we don’t want you and tell us about how we’re the devil.
Just because you’re pugging doesn’t mean you want the run to take 15 extra minutes because people are so stuck in their own selfish world that they think wearing clerics and not attacking anything is an acceptable thing to do.
I understand your point. But no need to turn that into a witch hunt either. I only ask for experienced 80 in my LFG for the last 3 years and the number of run that take 15min and more is very very few. It happen from time to time and it suck. But it’s not like one run out of two are bad.
Zerk Meta is the majority in the game and clerics guardian are the minority. That’s like Christian in america crying for more protection from sharia law and stuff.
I used an extreme example to get my point across. The same could be said for people running soldiers gear. It is infinitely inferior to zerker. It offers a slight boost survivability while offering a HUGE nerf to damage. This is due to the way that power, precision, and ferocity all work off of each other.
Another example would be condi, pre-condi change. It is much less of an issue now but it was a big deal and the same types of players who run selfish builds just because they “play how they want”continue to run similar things that simply don’t work.
Why should people be forced to carry these types even though they directly ruin the fun of those parties? I can honestly say if that is how you define elitist than I am not only an elitist I am proud to carry such a title.
This issue has already been hashed out, dont carry them, kick them as long as you have made sure you used the LFG tool properly (i.e. made sure you stated it was a zerker speed run with # AP points required). Also, try using friends and guildies for runs, I hear that works?
Everything you need to put a successful group together resides in 3 places… LFG tool, guilds, and friends.
Except the LFG tool isn’t a solution. Every time the zerker thread comes back around people specifically go on and say that they join zerker only parties and run clerics and soldiers specifically to ruin the run. So how is the LFG tool a solution when the requirements don’t hold any actual weight?
oh, also, a false positive from a crappy anti virus is also not a valid reason to call the authenticator as being shady. I once used an antivirus that called the Guildwars 2 file you download to install the game as malware, and that file came right from Arenanet.
Even more reason to not share my phone number with them or install shady software they recommend. Thanks for confirmation.
If not wanting to play with players who aren’t like-minded and don’t have the same goal as me is elitist than I don’t know what to tell you. You expect everybody to play like you but then get all kitten when other players who have different opinions want to play with only like-minded players. Sounds more like you’re the elitist who thinks they are better and right. We’re not trying to convert anybody, just keep them out of our parties. You’re actively trying to ruin our runs and join us even though we don’t want you and tell us about how we’re the devil.
Just because you’re pugging doesn’t mean you want the run to take 15 extra minutes because people are so stuck in their own selfish world that they think wearing clerics and not attacking anything is an acceptable thing to do.
I understand your point. But no need to turn that into a witch hunt either. I only ask for experienced 80 in my LFG for the last 3 years and the number of run that take 15min and more is very very few. It happen from time to time and it suck. But it’s not like one run out of two are bad.
Zerk Meta is the majority in the game and clerics guardian are the minority. That’s like Christian in america crying for more protection from sharia law and stuff.
I used an extreme example to get my point across. The same could be said for people running soldiers gear. It is infinitely inferior to zerker. It offers a slight boost survivability while offering a HUGE nerf to damage. This is due to the way that power, precision, and ferocity all work off of each other.
Another example would be condi, pre-condi change. It is much less of an issue now but it was a big deal and the same types of players who run selfish builds just because they “play how they want”continue to run similar things that simply don’t work.
Why should people be forced to carry these types even though they directly ruin the fun of those parties? I can honestly say if that is how you define elitist than I am not only an elitist I am proud to carry such a title.
edit: Also no, I am sorry but no matter who you are, you’re not telling who is slowing down your run aside from the obvious, like a guardian running staff no food buffs. All gear can look the same and full soldiers gear players can be attacking just the same as everybody else and do 50% of the damage of everybody else. You have no way of knowing who is slowing down the fight at that point.
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Adventurer: Hey, which way to the outhouse?
Citizen: We don’t have outhouses. We have water closets.
Adventurer: Like latrines?
Citizen: Nope. They all flow into the same sewer system, and that all goes out to sea.
I’ll just add a little clarification just in case, because I have noticed that some people do not know what SMS is.
SMS is the very basic text message that is a basic function in every mobile phone.
True but apparently not all players want to have a mobile phone.
And, of course, you need no mobile phone to use the SMS option, as you can specify voice for landlines.
Not all landline nets are capable of sending/recieving sms over landlines. Also not all phones for landlines are capable of sending/recieving sms.
So if this is made something that is required of all users, they should add a third option.
An easy and reletive cheap system is where you recieve a phonecall and an automated voice reads your code out loud.
I do agree that two way authentification is needed and important, but it has to be in such a way that everyone can use it
It is not SMS on phone line, it is a voice call that speaks the code you need to enter.
There are 3 options:
1- SMS
2- Voice call on phone line
3- Authenticator program installed on your computer.
And all 3 options are kitten.
1- Anet now has my cell phone number.
2- Anet now has my landline number.
3- I’ve now been forced to install shady software because I don’t want to give a company my phone number.
If not wanting to play with players who aren’t like-minded and don’t have the same goal as me is elitist than I don’t know what to tell you. You expect everybody to play like you but then get all kitten when other players who have different opinions want to play with only like-minded players. Sounds more like you’re the elitist who thinks they are better and right. We’re not trying to convert anybody, just keep them out of our parties. You’re actively trying to ruin our runs and join us even though we don’t want you and tell us about how we’re the devil.
Just because you’re pugging doesn’t mean you want the run to take 15 extra minutes because people are so stuck in their own selfish world that they think wearing clerics and not attacking anything is an acceptable thing to do.
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The only thing it would lead to was people kicking players from their party that don’t meet their requirements. I personally see that as a good thing. Play with like-minded individuals. I shouldn’t have to carry you because you wear clerics any more than you should have to put up with me trying to force zerker on you. The game needs to tools to differentiate or we’re doomed to argue forever.
So you will complete the dungeon with the guys and then see that he have bad dps and kick him. When the run is over? That help you.
No, I’ll know for next time who was responsible for slowing down my run.
The only thing it would lead to was people kicking players from their party that don’t meet their requirements. I personally see that as a good thing. Play with like-minded individuals. I shouldn’t have to carry you because you wear clerics any more than you should have to put up with me trying to force zerker on you. The game needs to tools to differentiate or we’re doomed to argue forever.
People actually afraid of seeing how effective they really are…. I don’t get it.
I’ve never had an issue getting in there for the skill point and I’m on my 14th world completion.
How I’m sick of people ripping on casuals. Because a person has a job and can only play 1-3h a day,
Playing 3 hours a day after you get home from a9-5 doesn’t make you a casual.
Spoiler: that’s how much a vast majority of players play which is why things pick up around NA prime time and die down near midnight.
If you want to spend those hours grinding nodes or idling in LA that’s your choice.
Seriously, 3 hours a day is a lot of time to spend on a video game. Casuals are the people who pop on every few days, spend longer than they should doing something and then logging off again.
If 3 hours of your day is spent on GW2 then you are not a casual because you are spending an 8th of your day on GW2. And you can do full clears of like 4 or 5 dungeons in that time.
I’ve always used 3-factor-authentification and can only recommend it. When I had e-mail authentification I once got an e-mail that someone was trying to log in from china. That moment I knew that my password had been hacked (and I changed it immediately). Of course they didn’t know the password for my e-mail account and thus my GW2 account was safe. Nowadays I use the authenticator because it’s easier.
It’s sad that ANet has to force players to use the 3-factor authentification. Everyone who values their account should gladly use the extra security that ANet offers us and recommend to other players to do the same.
No, on the contrary, it is sad that anet has to force people to use it because it is pointless. Your account wasn’t hacked because you are intelligent and use different passwords for different things. That is exactly what people should be doing.
Email authentication has been a thing since shortly after launch and it works perfectly if you’re not a security moron.
Some “casuals” enjoy difficult challenges too. Please stop equating “casual” to “bad” or “easy mode” for kittens sake. Many of us do not appreciate it.
Not going to happen it’s patented elitism claptrap. Typical that most people need to try and build themselves up by tearing others down and this caters to the worst of that demographic.
No, it is just fact. By definition casuals put less time into the game and thus less time to get better or to practice.
Then you made up an imagined scenario that I can only imagine is a “play how you want” wet dream of “metazerk” lying on the ground.
Not a wet dream when you saw it happening in fractal 50.
Not only did you make up an imaginary wet dream scenario of zerkers dying, but you also made up imaginary fractal tactics. Good job. You’re a credit to your people.
id just like to throw out there… this has happened several times sense my OP.
i list a group as “no skipping, no exploits, ‘playing’ content.”
i then have people join the group so say “skipping is not an exploit!” then leave.
this unlists my LFG, and i have to relist. (they’re usually the first guy.)
even when i /w these folks, and say things like, “hey the lfg is optional, and I’m sorry my lfg description ground your gears, but you could have opted to ignore it.” i get sassy replies, or blocked.
so what i keep coming around to, is that we desperately need to have the meta destroyed.
I’m not gonna say, how, or what, specifically should be done, but we need a reason for the “meta” crowd to end up acting like everyone else.
just sayin’.
You need a reason for the meta to be destroyed? Because you don’t want to play like them? You’re a hypocrite. And if they “destroy” the meta, another one will just take its place and within a week you’ll be crying about that one. Grow up.
Meta players are usually the hypocrites. This is how it runs with them; He don’t play meta then he is a noob.
Just constantly seeing Metazerk fractal 50 group with 1 gard/1 war/1 thief/2 ele else kick is just laughable.
The worst is when they spend; their whole kittenin time lying on the ground. But hey they play Meta zerk.
If people want to play meta fine by me but stop being an kitten about it every kittenin time.
What? You went from calling “metazerk” hypocrites to complaining that they only play with people they deem are likeminded. which is the opposite of this hypocrisy. Then you made up an imagined scenario that I can only imagine is a “play how you want” wet dream of “metazerk” lying on the ground. Then you went on to get really salty and curse out “metazerk” players. The ironic hypocrisy on this entire post.
id just like to throw out there… this has happened several times sense my OP.
i list a group as “no skipping, no exploits, ‘playing’ content.”
i then have people join the group so say “skipping is not an exploit!” then leave.
this unlists my LFG, and i have to relist. (they’re usually the first guy.)
even when i /w these folks, and say things like, “hey the lfg is optional, and I’m sorry my lfg description ground your gears, but you could have opted to ignore it.” i get sassy replies, or blocked.
so what i keep coming around to, is that we desperately need to have the meta destroyed.
I’m not gonna say, how, or what, specifically should be done, but we need a reason for the “meta” crowd to end up acting like everyone else.
just sayin’.
You need a reason for the meta to be destroyed? Because you don’t want to play like them? You’re a hypocrite. And if they “destroy” the meta, another one will just take its place and within a week you’ll be crying about that one. Grow up.
This conversation happens like once a week and once a week somebody has to explain meta again and how it is relevant in PvE. The community use information from the game and outside the game in outside manners like spreadsheets to determine their build and gear. They are by definition metagaming and people who use that information are also metagaming.
Backpieces are armor, why would the weapon crafters be able to make it? Maybe we should let chefs craft the pieces too.
You’re wearing an outfit, turn it off.
You can get Abyss, but not Celestial.
- Abyss can drop from the LA Rebuild and LA Survivor’s Kits. So you could choose it or one of the more expensive colors from one of the other kits.
- Celestial doesn’t drop from any of the kits accessible via the Celebratory kit. (Which is coincidentally why it’s now the most expensive color from the original set of dyes.)
The Celebratory kit offers choices from most of the limited edition dye kits (with the Shadow kit being the sole exception) or any of the Zephyrite swatches (currently limited to blues, greens, reds, and yellows — purples, oranges, browns, and “greys” don’t have a swatch).
Are you sure? I’m pretty sure only the exclusive dyes were pickable. The original dyes may drop from the sets but they weren’t pickable from the birthday gift.
You get to pick one of the exclusive dyes. You cannot get celestial. I think some of the glint dyes are sort of white-ish but not really.
I use GS#3 all the time, I stay with the group. It is a targeted skill, you can “leap” and not move. It is a useful blind. Anybody who gets mad at you for blinding the enemy is an idiot.
I never said AP was a good tool for judging player quality, I said that it was the best option currently available. There is a real difference. If you want AP requirements squashed then stop fighting people for wanting actual useful tools of requirement.
It reads like it might make some of the content easier but that it isn’t really a guild event. Which means you’ll get the same benefit just grouping up with randoms in the world.
Zalavaaris you need to take a chill pill. The hypocrisy in your statement is extremely disturbing. It is okay for you to join somebodies dungeon run and completely ruin their day by being bad and fumbling around and not knowing what is going on and not wanting to improve ever. But the minute they want to play how they want then they are elitist. What a joke.
But…. im not bad at this game… I have had a lot of experience with multiple aspects of this game and I know how to perform. My POINT is that if you just look at AP you dont know who is bad and fumbling. At LEAST do a trash pull and a boss pull and see what these people do. If they are as bad as you think they were from the get go then by all means, kick them out. I know I kick out bad players in my groups because they are wasting my time but I certainly give them a benefit of the doubt as to their skill level with low AP (as I also have low AP). What I cant stand is how stained this community has become from its original intention. But hey, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. It was nice while it lasted anet.
There really is nothing wrong with the community. Setting requirements is not bad. The only bad apples of this community are the ones who join peoples parties when they don’t fit their requirements and the ones who join parties and then try to force unadvertised requirements on them. Which is a very small minority of players.
Post doesn’t say anything about guilds though?
Zalavaaris you need to take a chill pill. The hypocrisy in your statement is extremely disturbing. It is okay for you to join somebodies dungeon run and completely ruin their day by being bad and fumbling around and not knowing what is going on and not wanting to improve ever. But the minute they want to play how they want then they are elitist. What a joke.
What special guild event?
What bugs me is “stack and whack”, specifically: the case where you stand exactly on top of each other and furiously mash whatever skills don’t make you move, and get chewed out if you break away even for a second (even if you immediately come right back).
I can only think of a few places where that happens anymore, but it’s thoroughly infuriating. I get staying close for boon sharing, AoE cleanses/heals/etc, that part makes sense, but it seems to me that “stay close enough to benefit from PBAoE buffs” is not quite the same thing as “stack and don’t even think about moving”. Maybe my bad experiences are just with rare jerks, I’m not sure.
I like the idea of camp-splitter mobs, though: yes, exactly like some of the Mordrem do. Note the Mordrem also have some mobs that resist direct damage (but aren’t immune) and take normal damage from conditions, while others heal and cleanse conditions but are rather vulnerable to being spiked down by zerk-thieves and the like. I think ANet might actually be testing out some ideas for how to keep combat more interesting, and I’ll be quite interested to see how that turns out.
Sure, staying close is efficient – so, how does a good group handle it when the mobs launch folks or drop AoEs that it’s suicide to stack in? Well, they move around, enough to avoid death, while still staying close. Doing that well actually does take some skill. So far, so good!
If you “break away” you will stop getting party buffs and mobs will scatter which completely defeats the point of balling them up. Also if in play you find yourself just “furiously mash whatever skills don’t make you move” then you might not be very good.
I usually find that the people asking for certain specifics in a group are the ones who need to be carried through it. I just laugh when they ask to ping gear and leave the group.
This game is so easy you are literally talking about either seconds or a minute of time on encounters. It is just stupid and petty. I have wasted more time in “pro” groups waiting on them to drag Mossman to the water than a standard non-conformed group just running it.
It is a game not a job, I intend on enjoying my time not trying to rush through everything so I can buy crap to stand around all day and show off in a virtual world.
No, a bad group where people don’t know what they’re doing and are wearing bad gear with bad builds isn’t the difference between seconds it is the difference between minutes, maybe even hours. The average run time for an Arah path 4 is like 4 hours. Experienced speed runners with proper gear and builds can do it in 40 minutes.
More importantly, exactly it isn’t a job. I am not being paid to do it. I don’t want to spend even an extra 10 minutes doing something I don’t have to. and no, running a dungeon with poorly geared, poorly built, inexperienced and usually willfully ignorant people who stop to kill even the lowest trash mobs and refuse to stay in buff range and knock everything around is the opposite of fun. It may be fun to them but it isn’t fun to me and I don’t want them in my party, ever. This is why fun is subjective and personal requirements are important.
Mr Glass. I’ve been there. A lot. My guild and I used to post LFGs looking for 1-2 more people and we’d always say that we want a complete, non exploitative run and that we’re not zerker meta players.
9/10 times we get the zerkers join our party, demand that we skip, threaten to report us and try to kick people from the group we started.
Yeah… This is pretty much what the “meta mentality” is.
9/10 I make a LFG inviting all and I never have threats like that and we go at a normal steady pace.
I have the same problems as the OP. It is why I say that the whole “just make your own LFG” argument is a lie. It just plain doesn’t work.
Works for me
It works for everyone. This is just more people trying to make a problem out of a non-problem. It is a big issue on this game. People make stuff up to invent a problem to “fix”.
“It’s not a problem for me or this other person I was talking to therefore it can’t be a problem for anyone”? Really?
@OP, you have my absolute support.
No, its not a problem because it is only a problem for the very small minority.
So was marriage inequality. =P
Mr Glass. I’ve been there. A lot. My guild and I used to post LFGs looking for 1-2 more people and we’d always say that we want a complete, non exploitative run and that we’re not zerker meta players.
9/10 times we get the zerkers join our party, demand that we skip, threaten to report us and try to kick people from the group we started.
Yeah… This is pretty much what the “meta mentality” is.
9/10 I make a LFG inviting all and I never have threats like that and we go at a normal steady pace.
I have the same problems as the OP. It is why I say that the whole “just make your own LFG” argument is a lie. It just plain doesn’t work.
Works for me
It works for everyone. This is just more people trying to make a problem out of a non-problem. It is a big issue on this game. People make stuff up to invent a problem to “fix”.
“It’s not a problem for me or this other person I was talking to therefore it can’t be a problem for anyone”? Really?
@OP, you have my absolute support.
No one is saying that it doesn’t happen.
Just that it doesn’t happen as often as some people like to make it out to be.
It was literally called “inventing problems” in the post I quoted =P
I’ll save you the trouble of quoting me again. You’re inventing problems. It is a non-issue that less than 1% of the population has ever dealt with. If you’re actually having this issue all the time then the common denominator is you.
Mr Glass. I’ve been there. A lot. My guild and I used to post LFGs looking for 1-2 more people and we’d always say that we want a complete, non exploitative run and that we’re not zerker meta players.
9/10 times we get the zerkers join our party, demand that we skip, threaten to report us and try to kick people from the group we started.
Yeah… This is pretty much what the “meta mentality” is.
9/10 I make a LFG inviting all and I never have threats like that and we go at a normal steady pace.
I have the same problems as the OP. It is why I say that the whole “just make your own LFG” argument is a lie. It just plain doesn’t work.
Works for me
It works for everyone. This is just more people trying to make a problem out of a non-problem. It is a big issue on this game. People make stuff up to invent a problem to “fix”.
“It’s not a problem for me or this other person I was talking to therefore it can’t be a problem for anyone”? Really?
@OP, you have my absolute support.
No, its not a problem because it is only a problem for the very small minority.
What amuses me the most is that there are some people who think GW2 requires any skill at all in dungeons. Even the highest level of fractals can be completed by players with the AR and a slight amount of situational awareness.
Pressing 15 buttons doesn’t make an elitist better, it shows how lame they actually are when they look down their nose at other players instead of helping them with positive advice.
They don’t require skill. But skill can make them faster.
More importantly, it is already pretty well known that advice isn’t welcome. You’re usually just called names for trying to push the meta.
I never really got the point of an inn in games.
In any case while I would love a direct trading system anet thinks it will get them tons of support tickets of crybabies whining about being scammed so no they won’t do it.
I’ve had elitists compliment me on my 14k AP. I just think “lol”. And I’m an elitist myself. I’ve seen people with under 2k AP that do great and those with 21k that do nothing but use flamethrower on their engineer and take a snooze on the dungeon floor.
Back on topic, from an elitist to fellow elitists: listen to the OP it saves everyone trouble.
Like I said, it isn’t a perfect or even good system but it is the only thing we have because of anets stubbornness.