Guild Wars 2

Pressure without immobilize/heavy stun is basically moot so far (or at least mine) since carriers can get there in what 15/20s? Have to make sacrifices for more CC or just burst harder.

How are you feeling it now, initial impressions?
Invulnerability is pretty cheesy. Nothing lamer than going for the kill and they pop Invuln, and you know that’s over.

Ele afk, lmao.

Vena.8436:

Thief traps have been fixed, they work as intended now.

We president now

I want CA and balance/bug patches more than spectator, leaderboards and pizza.

The skills are the game, they sold the idea that limiting weapon skills, trait restrictions and the limited skill pool made it easier to balance the game than gw1. So they should show they are capitalizing on that.

Trip wire and Needle trap no longer fail if there edges are touched instead of the center.

^ I don’t think that’s the problem.
They’re not making a lot of costumes in general even for their gem store.
Presumably because the different races make development time on that front longer.
So even if they wanted us to buy more skins, it takes them more time to make em then it did say GW1.

Oh lawd they fixed thief traps.
Now just need balance patches and obstruction bug removed and I can start being 100% content.

But seems like these patch notes were not done properly.

Lol wot stealth bug fix.
Everyone give a clap.
All our traps are now functional, regardless of whether they are worth the slot or not.
WE can now say they work.
Happy days are here.

Tripwire and Needle trap seem to be working.
Wtf, stealth bug fix.

Excuse me anet devs.
I love you.

Skyro.3108:

The funny thing is is that ANet’s “slow and steady” approach to balance is the exact opposite of what they need right now. Slow and steady balancing works for mature games with healthy populations. Games where there are ongoing tournaments and whatnot where drastically changing the metagame would have significant ramifications.

What ANet needs to do is actually focus on significantly buffing underpowered weapons/skills/traits. In fact, many balance teams overbuff underpowered aspects of their game to draw interest in them so people use and test them out so they can get a large set of data to then gauge if a following nerf is necessary.

The PvP balance in this game is in its infant stages, and wild swings of the metagame should not only be expected, it should be welcomed. At the end of the day, the teams playing 12hrs a day are the minority, and balance at the top should be of very little concern. ANet should be focused on the casual playerbase and making the core game fun, and that is done by having multiple effective builds and roles for each class.

I fully agree and tbh my favourite part of gw1 for some time was the balance patches and seeing everything change.

My thief traps still broken.

It’s actually fun trying not to die.
Good thing I am thief brah and do not anyways.
Brb killed an ele.
Brb feel good.
Brb he relogged and was back in the match…

Should bring out CA so people can host their own tournaments at the very least.
Works for the fighting genre.
I’ll watch people play if moneys on the line, makes it more exciting.

Rewards aren’t in proportion brah.

1 tourney round giving you 200 thingamajiggers.
3 round tourney giving you 400 thingamajiggers.

If you do 3, 1 round tourneys you get 600 thingamajiggers
If you do 1, 3 round tourney you get…400 thingamajiggers.

So for the same amount of battles you get less for being part of a bigger event.

Probably an accident, whatever, not going to lose my marbles over this, but hey know that it seems you need to adjust this.
Also, Tripwire and Needle trap are broken. Feel free to fix them when you adjust this, maybe put in a hotfix tommorow or next week.
Thanks

JonPeters.5630:

There are some updates missing from the notes. We are tracking down those, but some changes to the D/D and S/D ele build are in this patch despite not being in the notes.

Are there changes to other professions that are also missing?

Like thief traps lol.

Daecollo.9578:

Rayya.2591:

the food nerf affect thief less then other classes
even if i used omnombery ghosts all the time, our aoe was very limtied compared to other classes

It broke two viable builds.

S/P Acrobatic Vampire Thief.
P/P Acrobatic Vampire Thief.

Garbage.
If a build needs food to work, it’s gimmick trash to begin with.
Might as well of Spikefruit abused.

Edited so not banned for proffessionism.

Never said it was terrible, but they’re more suspectible to conditions than they were before this patch. This means conditions will be more relevant a threat. Is this not logical?

In exchange you now take less damage straight up from all sources save conditions with Frost Aura, and because of Aura-share can send that to friends to.
In other words, you’re now less damaged by burst if you play D/x eles in exchange for being about to chase/dash everything. Or in other words, D/X eles as a whole are less glass. Meaning only scepter eles are really left out.

Now that their condi clear has been repaired and toned down.
Ranger’s going to be put more so into check?

Help me, help you, help me.

My traps still broken.

Maugetarr.6823:

Kurow.6973:

Maugetarr.6823:

As an indirect buff, flame and frost auras have also been improved (important if you group up with eles while using D/D + SB)

Yea…and as a direct buff, my ele is even more godlike now! OH YEA!!!!!!

I’m entirely certain that this did not buff D/D bunker eles in any way. Definitely not in any way. (way to find the dark cloud in the silver lining. :P)

Frost aura now reduces damage 10% but chills less.
In other words they now take less damage, but heal less.

Don’t know what you’re talking about Willis.
If you’re talking WvW?
D/x always been viable.
S/D fully functional in WvW (my set) and PvE.
And I’m a frequent user of S/x in spvp, extrapolated to WvW where my stats are superior and food is relevant regardless, I see no reason to claim it’s viability was removed.

The sky is not falling.

Focus buff.
Staff very minor buff.
Aura buff/change.
Rtl nerf.
Pvp EA nerf.

Actually quite uplifting if you play Ele, options are improving.

“S/P No longer viable”
“Going to backstab”
Don’t backfoot on your words now Daecollo.
I’ll have to start screen printing them to a shirt.

It’s been relatively clear, spvp isn’t getting a proportional level of support.
No one to blame but PvE.
WvW hasn’t even gotten massive stuff either.

New map, and other features are still new stuff though.

Daecollo.9578:

Food items that give special bonuses upon a critical hit now have an internal cooldown before they can produce the special bonus again.

S/P is no longer viable in WvWvW, Going to go backstab now like all the other thieves since I can’t survive without stealth.

Lol if you leave a sword for something as small as this.
Then peace.

dimyzuka.7051:

Mesmer portal is now LOS? with the same cd? and no other changes?

haha this is a kittening joke. they just killed portal in spvp.

what happened to making other weapons viable?

wheres the rankings and ladder?

this game is dead, thankfully wow expansion is only $20 now , cyas

Um wot?
Sounds like they just made it bound to the same rules as shadowstepping, so you can’t go where you shouldn’t be able to.

Dual.8953:

General

Shadow Shot: This ability now allows the player to move while executing dagger strike portion of the ability. Finally. With this, it’s finally fluid.

Withdraw: This ability now scales 20% better with healing power. Base healing per level has increased by 10%. Sweet.
Ankle Shots: This trait now applies a full 3-second cripple. I’m not complaining

Everything else? Eh whatever. No problem with em regardless.
Tripwire and Needle trap still broke.

I and others were heavily against self RNG in our pvp.
No thanks brah. There’s a reason most of us don’t touch “Improvisation”.

See how things change then complain.
Ele’s have been changed and the Focus is a better weapon than it was before.
Rangers no longer clear everything under the sun.

My thief is sad, but I’ll live.
Only thing annoying me is how I saw nothing on my traps, wtf you gonna leave 2 bugged?
All in all, fine.

Eh I had imagined something different….
Well hope it’s fun.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

ensoriki.5789:

You avoid a teleport the same way you avoid any instant skill.
You don’t or you predict.
That’s all there is to it.
Whether it’s problematic or not is one thing, but that’s the reality if you want it.

Instant skills = no skill…
Simply put.

What’s the relevance to the topic specifically when every profession has instantaneous skills. It’s pretty moot to bring up unless you were trying to remove all of them from the game.

You avoid a teleport the same way you avoid any instant skill.
You don’t or you predict.
That’s all there is to it.
Whether it’s problematic or not is one thing, but that’s the reality if you want it.

IDarko.4709:

They pretty much removed the whole paid tournament system, something that took ages for them to implement. So we are back to normal tournaments. Luckily we also have single round fights now and ratings to make it actually work. If you think about it, that’s not really a big step since launch.

I’m happy but you gotta be realistic.

Lol this.
And their whole Race paradigm thing I assume makes designing armors expensive which is why the game as a whole sees few gem store skins.
Though they probably weren’t making much money off tickets anyways with how liberally they gave em out. So wonder how they’re looking at pvp right now in perspective to the rest of the game.

So back to the stomping of solo/pugs pre-paid but with faster queue’s and rating?
Lulz.
Well at least there’s a new map to do it in and maybe my traps will be patched.
Well game is moving forward I guess, though I don’t know if I like the direction it’s doing so but w/e.

I’ve only seen a thief trash talk once.
Necro’s and Mesmers.

Lol trips me out too that there’s no ice and this mofo disappears.
My S/P doesn’t care but annoys my S/D hard.

gezz.5618:

nice suggestion, lets kill what you cant see

Gain some reflex.

Field awareness and a sense of twitch.

The type recharged is random and includes those not on your bar. Running only venoms gives you a 1/5 chance.

Neither?
I’m pretty sure they aren’t doing anything on Feb that will make the game less attractive and a new map was definitely wanted since it’s been quite awhile and there’s such a small rotation atm. Well other than the loading bug.

Would just like to see all skills & traits unbugged, Custom arena’s and faster queue pop times or revitalization of hj, either/or.

Lack of Flanking strike use. I am disappoint.

Some asura animations are ez, some are not they just need to fix it.
Can’t tell me you can’t see an Asura using HB or HS.

Everything should be balanced around the thief.
If a thief can’t kill it, it’s broken
/notsrs.
/semisrs

Shukran.4851:

Noctis Assassin.4035:

Daze on steal. :P death sentence for anyone using their heal skill.

edit:also works well for instagibbing thieves pressing dagger 2

daze on steal is 30 trickery.

it hurts a lot your output.
maybe after patch…

Yeah if you play daggers.
I reach 20 into trickery on my S/P set pretty much always now for Bountiful so the decision is just put the extra 10 in DA or 10 in trickery, and the difference is pretty negligible since the daze lets you get in an extra hit the majority of the time or gives you a second of breathing room or removes a skill( assuming you don’t miss) for 5s vs the what maybe measily extra damage 10 more in DA will get me. Traits at that level suck too.

Maybe they dedicated everything to fully unbugging the professions /dreaming.

MaXi.3642:

drazzar: all rewards are based on rank, not on skill or anything… so rank really means something ofc its cosmetic, but its the only reward/progress in spvp

they really need to do something with it… some skill based rewards, not farm based…

Not aware of any games that work like this.

Only difference is how valuable the win bonus is and that in 8v8, that is the soul purpose, farming glory because playing conquest is a 5v5 affair.

milo.6942:

the rewards are to differentiate those that spend more time in the game.
how else would you reward those that put the most time in?
just be glad they don’t affect your stats.

Lol by how they play?
I’ve been neglecting them glory boosters but saw a nice skin I want so time to start popping them.

Don’t know why people see warrior so low, thing melts face given the chance.