Here is my feedback: RETURN RICOCHET! Or just do official announcement about what you did and why.
There is no way you can make make this staff work in pvp. Because it does not provide stealth or blocks or invulnerabilities. And thieves health and toughness pool is still absurdly low. So d/p is still on top.
What: Nerf Thief? Why: Even I am not sure if this is a joke or serious but check out this link to find out for yourself.
They want Ele nerfed and mesmer nerfed, but I say, why not nerf this.
dude I’m starting to think you really suck in this game, you call thief op because a glasscanon thief kills another glasscanon thief in 2-3 fast hits?
are you really that childish??
the only way to really do that much dmg with the thief atm is to go SO glasscanon that almost every single class can onehit you
WITHOUT STEALTH, WITHOUT BACKSTAB, meaning without the skillcap of the thief
in other words, l2p dude and stop kittening about a class that’ll instadie if you just sneeze in his direction, if you aren’t skilled enough to take out the weakest class, don’t try it or l2p as i said, but stop spamming your bs on forums just because you are kitten and need to be able to kill something
it is SO pathetically easy to kill a thief post patch
a little tipp for you nub, if you see a thief go stealth, don’t turn your back on him, spin autoattack, cc, stun, aoe, dodge, etc. COUNTLESS of ways to turn the thiefs burst into dust, just as i said (again) L2FP
Actually P/P was garbage in spvp even before they removed recochet. But now it’s also garbage for pve. And it’s not only about recochet but also about trait that restored ini on crit they removed.
Man I was struggling with the old Condi/Krait Rune build.
It was awful. It just stank in PVP and it used to be so kick butt.
I eventually came up with something that functions as a Condi Thief but I had to experiment a bit and deviate from the old meta. It is still efficient and I kind of enjopy it a bit more than the old build.
Well, enjoying the build and even rect somebody on hotjoin is not the same as “really good”. It can be good against some low mobility builds with poor access to condi cleanse I guess… At least I have never had any problems fighting against d/d condi thieves.
Can any1 explane me how thiefs stealth got buffed with the last patch? Every single nub whining player is crying about some mistic stealth buffs for thieves, so maybe it’s just me who can’t find it?
So, SA line:
1) shadow embrace got nerfed
2) might from stealth has been removed
3) ini on stealth enter has been removed
4) last refuge (yes, it used to work great with vamp runes) has been moved to major traits and not an option anymore
5) cloaked in shadows has been moved to GM and is not an option anymore
6) second major line (traits 4,5,6) is absolutely useless
where is the buff?
Btw, it’s always the best marker for bad player – crying about thief stealth. You won’t find any good player who’d been whining about it (except trolling reasons ofc).
2/0/6/0/6 instead of 6/0/2/0/6 in www provides you with health regen, might stacking, ini on stealth and +1s stealth. And 200 toughness. 200 more power (if go 6 in DA) will not make the difference in www .
Sigils of fire and air. Rune of strengh is good if you go 6 in SA, otherwise pack is just fine.
Aegis problem solved. Aegis granting skill have cooldown, steal has a cooldown too. And if you didn’t trait mug your steal will not reveal you, letting you land that backstab.
What else thieves should not trait to make you finally satisfied?
Btw, I don’t mind to reveal on blocks. Just make BS damage = Eviscerate damage not depending of positioning and make it possible to use it without stealth.
Right after BS will get a 10 sec cooldown, will be dodgeable via reaction play and not prediction and will consume all your initiative even if dodged/blocked/missed.
Right after thief will get same toughness, skills power, passive healing, access to burn, boons, might stacking, invuls and blocking
Sorry, but there are a lot of rekted guys who say they have no issues with thieves. Sometimes they even wisp you that you are noob and noskill. Hugging the ground at the same time ofc. I wonder if it was you btw. Please write “noob” so I could compare.
You get some amount of T6 resourses from chests in Glorious track you can sell later. So you get several gold from 1 track only by resourses. But honestly it depends on your luck whatever track you choose.
Look like OP got whooped hard by thief in pvp. Actually every time another bad player gets rekted by thief we can see topics like this…
Btw, I don’t mind to reveal on blocks. Just make BS damage = Eviscerate damage not depending of positioning and make it possible to use it without stealth.
I did not notice how it depends on fast switch to SB but there is a bug. There are points where IA still fails with loss of initiative. I mean it was not intended to be bug before patch, but now if we say that port skills should not work if there is no path bla bla bla, then it’s obviously a bug.
For the instance: on BoK map, if treb broke both walls on middle, try to blink on both of them from the point.
You may ask: “But what about my boon removal skills? Will they only corrupt one instance of stability now?” To which we say: Your corruptions and boon removals will clear the boon completely, unless otherwise noted.
I hope that’s cleared things up a bit. Thanks for reading!
-Karl
considering this, are you going to fix thief’s steal (traited with bountiful thief), which removes only one single stack of stability now?
yes, why not? ofc I can’t spam unload all the day, but it’s enough. when I go to invis (mostly to clean condi) I reveal with sneak attack. It does not use ini.
because with 2/0/6/0/6 you have 10 sec of fury, swiftness, vigor, 2 stolen boons, heal 2+k, +2 ini, and also poison and daze for your enemy every 21 sec. you have +3 ini to your ini pool and also steal is a gap closer. isn’t it enough?
ofc if you run in zerg, there is no need in trickery, x/6/6/x/x is more efficient. and CS thief will rect Trickery thief in 1vs1.
Ok guys. I officially need help. Been playing pvp for last month and got placed among top 100 on a new leaderboards. I use d/p with different meta/non meta builds. I have rly no problems fighting and soloing any class,to solo recap. My only problems are necroes . Never played one, and rly don’t know how they worked. Most of the time I got feared and my hp just goes to zero In less than 2 seconds, no time to dodge. And sometimes I start fighting and get him low and he just enters 2-3 forms than I have no time to fight, and that deal insane dmg(especially wraith looking one) . I tried several times, and now I just go to help team on recapping and defending, when I see necro. I talk about high skill players. Please explain me their mechanics and your suggestion to countering and fighting them. Note, I don’t use shadow refuge at all in spvp, cause it’s a point loser .
well, it’s nice that you think you can decide if hotjoin is good for anybody… but no, I don’t want to w8 for several minutes between arenas in prime time. and more like eternity all the other time.
