Anet likes S/D thief, ham/bow, D/D ele cheese and bunkers…… why don’t you make warriors cast their heal, just like everybody else. Make them cast their heal so I can rupt it and laugh. The game should be about skill. Not who runs them bunkers and the cheesy builds. 2 years and the balance is worse now, than when I was playing at release.
How to counter a wuss comp? That’s easy friends play like a wuss and run a decap, but tbh that comp it’s not unbeatable, they’re healing eachother blasting with the ele’s water field. If you can’t shutdown/ kill the ele, then your chances of beating them will be greatly reduced.
Said the guy who QQ about thieves in all his other posts. Teef OP pls Nerf. At least thieves have to press buttons to win. Its not the faceroll AI that does all the work.
So in the last few days, i started playing more casual. I played with some top 700 ish team queue leaderboards from heart of mist, i did not know them. I though it was going to go really bad, to my surprise all of the 4 players i played are actually really skilled, they can easily be in the top 50 leaderboard, I decided to team queue with my viewers while streaming, got the exact same results. There are so many skilled players in the game who are unknown and they are all in the top 800.
From what I saw the only problem they had is they don’t know where to go and what to defend, all I did was tell them where to go, who to attack in team fights and when to defend, and we easily beat top 100 teams. these problems can be overcome with experience and playing more team queue with a team and not just random solo queues.
Why do all these skilled players never form a team?
I see maaaaaaaaany solo queue players who are good yet they have no teams.
If all these players form a team we might see 10+ teams who can compete to win in every tournament and not just 3-4 teams.
Maybe Anet needs to add more features that enables these players to form a team or something? or is the problem with the players not wanting to?
This revelation came to you a little late, but yes there are a lot of players in solo/yolo q who are incredibly good that don’t take the current PvP seriously to make a team. But the main reason it’s because there’s no reward for being a hardcore Pvper in this game. Making a team takes time, first you need people who play at the same time as you. And most of the times that’s imposible…. So people rather play just for fun. Also the current LB are a joke and you get absolutely nothing from being on the top. There’s no incentive…..
This is why mesmer is not viable in high end tPvP……….. The amount of hate this proffesion gets everyday, it’s ridiculous.
Lol no, just no. Compared to thief, or even warrior/engi/necro, the hate mesmers get is absolutely nothing.
Yes, mes has always gotten the most hate, maybe not as much now that other class like the one you mention above reign supreme. Mesmer is gonna end up in the recycle bin, mark my words. Even Hugh said it on ready up, that he “hates mesmers”, and plays the most boring class in the game warrior…. I mean if warriors were as fun and took skill like in GW1 to play, I would understand. But warriors in GW2 takes the least skill of all the profession and they roll their face across the keyboard to win.
This is why mesmer is not viable in high end tPvP……….. The amount of hate this proffesion gets everyday, it’s ridiculous. I’ve noticed, dmg increased on every profession after patch. Phantasm mesmers has always hit hard, and iwarlock hits the hardest out of all the phantasm if the target has a lot of condis on them. Even thieves are hitting for 11k backstabs…… Maybe you should all ask Anet to delete the mesmer profession for good, so we can stop having silly post about mesmers everyday. Dmg was increased………. I’m not surprised iwarlock hit for that much, I’ve seen it hit that hard in PvE.
Mesmer is the weakest class in tPvP….. Instead of making us mesmers less viable than we already are, How about you L2P…. The real mesmer is dodging and always moving, if you can’t find the real one, then I suggest you go see an “ophthalmologist” ASAP.
They are weak but they are still the easiest class to kill people in 1v1. Passive AI damage = GG. I think even MM necro is harder to play since the pets are melee and can be kited.
MM harder to play?? lol MM is the easiest kitten ever, they don’t even dodge and if you’re not careful they can bring your HP down 0 in seconds. Shatter mes is by far the hardest build to play effectively, especially in this condi meta where engis are doing perma burning and necros with nightmare runes fearing you to death. We are weak against conditions and thieves also hard counter us. Saying that MM is harder to play than mes is ridiculous, mesmer is one the hardest proffesion in the game to play.
Mesmer is the weakest class in tPvP….. Instead of making us mesmers less viable than we already are, How about you L2P…. The real mesmer is dodging and always moving, if you can’t find the real one, then I suggest you go see an “ophthalmologist” ASAP.
Engi and warrior are the strongest and thief an ele are the weakest. This is because of the current bunker meta. Thieves and eles are meant to do fast damage and get quick kills. Well this doesnt happen with bunkers. Engis and warriors can survive so they fit the meta well.
Thief weakest classs muahhahaha, you heard it here first guys.
You’re right, the current thief steal does too much. One skill should not be doing all of that. As for the mesmer steal, i have to disagree with caed, and this is a big problem when fighting thieves. The stability gives the thief immunity to cc from the mesmer for 5 seconds . Lyssa runes and the mes steal create a lot of problems because they have a short cool down and you can’t counter play the thief with cc. That +cluster bombs spam, which do a lot of dmg and kills all the clones. And the thief ability to reset the fight makes it extremely hard for a mes to do well against a thief.
Also everybody knows that being on LB doesn’t mean anything about your individual skill level.
So true
That’s what bad players like to believe to make themselves feel better.
I’ve been top of the gw2 LB 10000000000000000 times, so that’s what you like to say to make yourself feel better about the truth. Sounds to me like you’re in denial, and can’t face the truth.
I would’ve been higher, but I get a lot of 4/5. The system is flaw, And I play shatter mesmer in a bunker condi meta. Also i was higher than that, that website is bullkitten.
Also everybody knows that being on LB doesn’t mean anything about your individual skill level.
So true
That’s what bad players like to believe to make themselves feel better.
I’ve been top of the gw2 LB 10000000000000000 times, so that’s what you like to say to make yourself feel better about the truth. Sounds to me like you’re in denial, and can’t face the truth.
GW1 PvP was superior in everyway than GW2, and GW2 players that never played on the high GW1 lvl don’t even have a clue how awesome GW1 Pvp was. But Anet decided they want to beat Wow and attract the Pver that plague this world. And brought Allince Battles into GW2, worse game mode ever and the most boring kitten ever. In gw1 GvG you could always make big plays spliting, out smarting your opponent and it was like a chest game. But now we’re stuck with this kitten game mode. And it doesn’t surprise me at all that Gw2 PvP is dead already. I mean it took GW1 PvPv8 years to die out and because Anet went on to create AB wars 2. And Gw2 PvP died in 1 year
I play mesmer, and every now and then I get this annoying bug in Pvp while in combat. It puts me on a great disadvantage. I get it on my mesmer more than any other profession, when I phase reatreat, when I get knocked back by an engi, sometimes even when I blink, but most of the times just fighting. It has gotten me killed a lot of times when I would’ve just been fine. The only way to get out of it is by typing /dance. We mesmers had to deal with a lot of bugs that have been here since release. I can’t count how many times I have phase retreated under a rock, under water. And now we have to deal with this bug, which is by far the most annoying of them all.
I was just wondering if you guys were aware of this bug?
If you think it needs to be reworked instead of removed (I fear it won’t ever be removed, Anet loves bunkers), then you should start making constructive suggestions
I want it removed, it’s just bad for the game, specially conquest.
this amulet is ok in 5v5
its only annoying when some random use it in duals and make the dual last for over 20 mins and in the end will probably kill squishy by over extending the dual and by spamming skills
This amulet is not fine at all, it’s broken and needs to be reworked or removed from the game.
So instead of making settler’s viable, you want to take it out. The general issue lies with conditions being overpowered, settler’s is just a victim of that. Just cause you take settler’s out won’t have conditions doing less.
Nobody should be this tanky and be able to do dmg at the same time. Spirit rangers, condi warriors, and engis abuse this amulet to the fullest. It’s ridiculous you guys still have this amulet in PvP after 2 years and you can’t see the big problem. It’s okay if you want to play a support bunker role, but doing dmg at the same time in a conquest mode “NO”
This is one of the biggest reason why the meta is in such a bad state. It’s bad for the game.
this game hasn’t been out for 2 years.
imo settler’s amulet is te prhe least of the problems in pvp.
grabbing condition removal is all part of making an efficient build.
You don’t get it.
Having this amulet in a conquest mode is bad, it promotes skilless lazy play. You are able to maintain and hold a point and do insane amount of dmg. How is that right or good for the game? And before you reply I’m r68, never skyhammer farmed and never hot join, all I do is tPvP. Even Ostrich Eggs said on his stream to remove this amulet, cause he understand how bad it is for the game. If you can’t understand how broken Settler’s amulet is, then you don’t know anything about PvP in this game.
You cannot do insane damage with settler’s amulet, especially not with an engineer (you need crit to proc your passive burn, which you won’t get with settler’s). Again, you can do decent damage (the condition damage with settler’s is lower than with rabid’s, if you don’t know). If a player with settler’s amulet does insane damage on you, it means you don’t have enough condition cleanse to face him.
Seems you’re the one who is not getting it.
ranger do insane dmg with this amulet spaming 11111111. If you want to play a bunker support role that’s fine but, you should not be able to do dmg. Bunker guards is a good example of how bunkers should like. Why are you defending condi bunker meta???? Do you play a spirit ranger?
Nobody should be this tanky and be able to do dmg at the same time. Spirit rangers, condi warriors, and engis abuse this amulet to the fullest. It’s ridiculous you guys still have this amulet in PvP after 2 years and you can’t see the big problem. It’s okay if you want to play a support bunker role, but doing dmg at the same time in a conquest mode “NO”
This is one of the biggest reason why the meta is in such a bad state. It’s bad for the game.
this game hasn’t been out for 2 years.
imo settler’s amulet is te prhe least of the problems in pvp.
grabbing condition removal is all part of making an efficient build.
You don’t get it.
Having this amulet in a conquest mode is bad, it promotes skilless lazy play. You are able to maintain and hold a point and do insane amount of dmg. How is that right or good for the game? And before you reply I’m r68, never skyhammer farmed and never hot join, all I do is tPvP, so I know what I’m talking about. Even Ostrich Eggs said on his stream to remove this amulet, cause he understand how bad it is for the game. If you can’t understand how broken Settler’s amulet is, then you don’t know anything about PvP in this game.
Nobody should be this tanky and be able to do dmg at the same time. Spirit rangers, condi warriors, and engis abuse this amulet to the fullest. It’s ridiculous you guys still have this amulet in PvP after 2 years and you can’t see the big problem. It’s okay if you want to play a support bunker role, but doing dmg at the same time in a conquest mode “NO”
This is one of the biggest reason why the meta is in such a bad state. It’s bad for the game.
The biggest problem is the way that MMR works. New players can win a few lucky ones in a row and get their MMR and ranks up higher than they should be. Direct result of that are really weird and uneven matchups. So the direct opposite of what an MMR system should be doing.
A good example is a (friendly) guy i met in soloq the other day called Jace Norsd. He currently has a 21-32 record overall, while being a former top 22 (currently 900). And he was about as good as any random new player you meet if you ever do hotjoin games.
Wrong solo q is all about who runs the kitten kitten builds, bunker engi, condi wars spirit rangers. kitten game play at it’s finest
GW1 Mesmers didn’t have ranged, instant-cast 1-second-duration Blackout that doesn’t cost energy.
GW1 Mesmers didn’t have “Press button; receive instant high damage AI minion that auto-targets for you.”
GW1 Mesmers didn’t have instant-activation, passively proccing traits that make instant-activation ranged Blackouts even more powerful without any cue.
GW1 didn’t have stability.
Stop deluding yourself. You’ll never see GW1 Mesmer again. Just keep playing your Summoner with its overpowered instant-cast abilities.
I love this build, Mesmer should interrupt and shutdown other professions just like in GW1. Watching animations and timing interrupts takes a lot of skill. This is how Mesmer should be all about “SKILL”. I’m one of those Mesmer that value skill more than anything, and refuse to play anything but (SHATTER), which is ridiculously hard in this bunker condi meta. I despise phantasm Mesmer and I think they should be removed. Bring the old GW1 Mesmer back Anet.
Watching animations to interrupt what the enemy wants to do takes skill, spaming 3 on a thief rolling your face across the keyboard doesn’t. Mesmer in gw1 could interrupt, and mesmer in gw2 should be able to do it as well. If you spam 3 on thief you should be immob because not only are you doing insane dmg, you’re evading and stunning your target, and you’re doing all that with one single skill. It’s sad that you spam 3 on a thief and come here to cry about mesmers, when thief is oviously more viable and hard counters mesmer and makes everyother glass cannon look bad.
lol inverted, complaining about mesmers when thieves spam 3, nice joke kid. Get good As soon as I destroyed him he came here to cry, when he plays a thief and spams 3 none stop. You just want to make mesmer less viable than we already are, when thieves are ridiculously op, nice kittening joke.
This post is just ironic because ele has always been about sustain, dps and LOTS of room to mess up! once they gain some of their sustain back, it will go back to being all about mindless rotations and key smashing like before.
ps: Any glass cannon with little survival takes skill! (exept PW teefs ofc).
GS/SF Shatter mesmer, galss cannon ele, and glass cannon engi take more skill than any other class in the game. Nade/bomb kit engi on the other hand, takes no skill at all, and it’s ridiculously effective.
They play easy broken classes, ham/Lbow, s/s,lb, decap bunker engis, spirit rangers, s/p ,s/d thief. Pretty much anything that doesn’t require actual skill to play like " shatter mesmer"
Shatter Mesmer, because it requires the highest skill to be effective. There so much a mesmer brings to a team, although the class is hurting because of this bunker condi spam. And for those people that say engi has the highest skill ceiling, bomb/nade is another spam build. The only high skill build the engi has is that power build. I love engi thou, it’s really fun and that’s why I choose engi as 2nd favorite.
Balance can always be fixed, and balance depends on the metagame and the gametype.
Implement a fun and approachable gametype and balance will come after. We may even get innovations and revolutions in teamcomp and build usage, so balance is a very minimal consideration at this stage.
I highly doubt that, but I like your optimism. Balance is important, specially if the game wants to become an esport. And the current game balance is worse than back when we had the burst meta.
Instead of hating on others, focus on your game play it needs work. And next time you face me on skyhammer bring a parachute so you can have a safe landing.
