Guild Wars 2

Gold is so easy to make in this game. The repair bill is trivial. Stop dying so much.

Another wow player complaining that this game is not like wow…. Did you do no research before you played this game?The mechanics you wish to have changed were announced before launch, if you don’t like it why the hell did you buy this game?

milo.6942:

Reverence.6915:

Raine.1394:

milo.6942:

Reverence.6915:

GW2 has no trinity mostly due to it being balanced around PvP, where trinity absolutely sucks balls.

That’s a really weird statement. Maybe by pvp you mean large-scale combat like wvw, but spvp has only been degraded by lack of team structure and teamplay interdependence.

That and the fact that the trinity doesn’t suck in PvP. The only thing missing in trinity games PvP is aggro management as humans don’t respond predictably to taunts. Healing is huge in battle grounds and can make or break a fight. Also, tank builds are often found in PvP where all other aspects of ‘tank’ are present apart from aggro management.

To say that ‘trinity sucks’ at PvP is tantamount to saying “I’ve never played PvP in a trinity-based game”.

From what I’ve experienced, trinity based PvP games basically amounts to a gear check. No thanks.

why are you talking about gear? have you not played gw1?

This is not GW1 Anet already burned that bridge by adding gear grind.

Knightshonor stop trying to turn this game into WoW. If you want WoW go play WoW and leave our game alone!

Next you’ll be asking for pandas and gnomes.

OP Tell that to the theif that killed me (warrior in full Knights gear) in 3-4 hits.

Why are people complaining about these miniscule nerfs? Try other games like AoC or D3 where they nerf your damage by half…

Fun! This is Guild WARS right? A small group fight is not a war, its a fight.

People say that zerging is mindless and boring and it can be, but I’ve been in massive zerg vs zerg fights that were lots of fun, sometimes even use tactics such as flanking to win the battle =)

Reminds me of fantasy movies like Chronicles of Narnia or LoTR with mass scale wars.

Knighthonor.4061:

. In other MMO games I have played, the gear usually has some sort of PvP stat for reducing damage.

This game needs a general damage reduction stat balanced for PvP instead of PvE. Toughness is no good.

And another thing why is it that just because another game has something, then that automatically means it needs to be in this game? The whole reason I bought this game was because it was different!

You WoW players have already partially ruined the game for me and many others by asking for gear grind. Stop ruining the rest of the game for those of us that bought this game because we wanted something different! (Anet’s original target audience)

And another major problem it would introduce, I would have to aquire and store two sets of gear. 1 for PVE and 1 for PVP. I really hate that idea.

Disagree with your idea OP. Resilience in the other game, made me hate the game. Why can’t we just buff toughness just a touch?

Jade Quarry, it’s in the top tier and not much of a waiting time. I’ve heard that our rival Blackgate (which is usually the number one server) has very long Queue times. WvW is pretty balanced in the top tier as most servers in this tier, know how to play. Hope this helps and Welcome to GW2.

NetherDiver.6079:

Easier to nerf 1 skill than to buff 100 other skills.

This, but there’s more to it than that.

It takes MUCH less time to adjust the lines of code on one skill than to change the other 100+ lines, not to mention all the potential issues that will arise with altering the many lines of code.

This will always be the norm in online gaming and it is very unlikely to change. Just be happy that Anet doesn’t nerf things that bad. Try other games like AoC or even D3 where your damage gets halved.

Either deal with it or play single player games.

Dear grocery store, can you please stop selling apples? I hate apples, please only sell oranges! K thanks bye.

Araziel.7201:

hellsmachine.4085:

Agree 100%. Why should I as a WvW/PvPer be forced to PVE to get BiS gear? Makes no freakin sense! Either make it attainable from WvW or keep it out of WvW!

EDIT: Starting to think Anet is run by ex Funcom members. Remember BORI in AoC? PVE Grind for PVP gear (It killed AoC for me)

Good old Boring. I see you didn’t like pounding rocks either lol.

Hahaha! Player vs rock? Who ever came up with that idea, has rocks in their head… Pun intended…

Agree 100%. Why should I as a WvW/PvPer be forced to PVE to get BiS gear? Makes no freakin sense! Either make it attainable from WvW or keep it out of WvW!

EDIT: Starting to think Anet is run by ex Funcom members. Remember BORI in AoC? PVE Grind for PVP gear (It killed AoC for me)

I see you must be new to online gaming, welcome!

Nerfs have been in almost every single online game I have played and whilst I don’t agree with it it, it’s more than likely not going to change any time soon, as reducing a number on one line of code takes much less dev time than increasing numbers on 1000s of other lines. So all people who wonder why can’t they just buff the rest of the game, that’s why.

Nerfs are part of online gaming, I don’t like it, you don’t like it, but if you don’t learn to adapt to it and find a new way to use your favorite skill that got nerfed, than you might want to stick with single player games.

Enjoy your stay

You may have broken your promise and turned the game into Gear Grind 2.0 but at least you had the decency to give me a full refund. So therefore I think your honor is restored. Thanks again.

Wreckdum.8367:

I guess you’ll just have to wait and find out like literally every other person on these forums. Orrrrrr you could speculate and sound like a moron like the vocal majority around here screaming for the devs heads on pikes.

I choose to wait, was hoping there would be an answer by now, wasn’t sure, as I haven’t been playing since the announcement.

I might be what you call a casual gamer, I work full time and have an active social/party life. In other MMOs I’ve played I will enjoy the game then usually quit soon after I hit end game as I will never have the time to grind for hours and hours to get the best gear in the game, especially when the best gear in the game becomes redundant every so often, making the game a never ending hamster wheel.

When I first heard about GW2, having no power creep, I thought to myself, “At last! A game where I have a chance of being on par with the top players. Seems they have managed to eliminate that disparity between the casual and the elite.”

Now, only 3 months later, have announced they are bringing gear in with better stats and bumping up legendaries to be on par with them. Since I spent a lot of time in Orr grinding for the exotics I do have, only for them to no longer be on par with the best items in the game, I no longer have the desire to play, since this announcement.

Basically I don’t want to waste any more time on this game, until I get some answers on what this new tier of items means to GW2.

TLDR:

Will casuals still be on par with the elite?

Will the new tier be as easy to get as exotics, or do I need to join an elite guild and give up either my social life or job to remain competitive?

Will Legendaries be easier to get to compensate?

Is ArenaNet still keeping their original promise, or have they back flipped and basically changed the game to be another typical never ending power chase?

aaron.7850:

because of the cries of a few wow players that dont understand the nature of GW2, now we must endure all this mess of a new tier of gear

Or move onto the next game, as I will be if gear treadmill is implemented.

Because horizontal progression does not encourage gem sales for transmutation stones as much as vertical progression does.

Valtameri.2075:

HellsMachine.4083:

Valtameri.2075:

HellsMachine.4083:

YAY! We’re finally getting the “gear treadmill” EVERYONE asked for.

Hopefully soon we will get flying mounts, resilience gear, reputation grind, gnomes, night elves and kung-fu pandas!

/end sarcasm

Attention seeker, you just keep on whining on every thread aren’t you. Still here eh?
Also reference to kung-fu panda proves that you don’t know anything about Warcraft lore.

Don’t know and don’t care….
It will forever be known as panda land, get used to it.

edit: and thank you for bestowing your attention on me.

Nothing to get used to, people are ignorant and stupid.
Just get your facts straight before whining.

Also if you don’t like the game, why are you still here? That’s the one thing i really want to know.

I love this game and I am trying my best to voice my opinion in order to help save it from being changed into a mind numbing gear grind (like WoW is), which I, as a paying customer am entitled to.

If it turns into an endless gear grind such as WoW (or “Panda Land” as it is now known as) then I will be quitting the game and taking my money elsewhere (exactly what I did with my dissatisfaction of Diablo 3).

Savvy?

Valtameri.2075:

HellsMachine.4083:

YAY! We’re finally getting the “gear treadmill” EVERYONE asked for.

Hopefully soon we will get flying mounts, resilience gear, reputation grind, gnomes, night elves and kung-fu pandas!

/end sarcasm

Attention seeker, you just keep on whining on every thread aren’t you. Still here eh?
Also reference to kung-fu panda proves that you don’t know anything about Warcraft lore.

Don’t know and don’t care….
It will forever be known as panda land, get used to it.

edit: and thank you for bestowing your attention on me.

Khemizt.5104:

nofo.8469:

Khemizt.5104:

Bearhugger.4326:

Khemizt.5104:

There is no other way to make a MMO other than using the treadmill. Theres no progression without a treadmill… How do you guys not see that, how can sitting in the same gear since you turned level 80, and downing bosses that don’t vary in toughness be fun!?

Not really. Over 7 years, Guild Wars 1 had zero power creep.

And thats why the game was only popular for a few months, they are trying to stop that from happening to this game.

Your posts make my head hurt.

I know it’s been a hard concept to grasp for this community so let me explain, without the use of treadmills your game will continue to die at it’s current pace, Anets marketing team see’s this change and is doing something to fix it and a team of people, much smarter than you, decided this was the best way of making the game more appealing to other players, and to keep it’s current player base relatively stable.

Please stop posting, you’re just making yourself look worse with every post.

YAY! We’re finally getting the “gear treadmill” EVERYONE asked for.

Hopefully soon we will get flying mounts, resilience gear, reputation grind, gnomes, night elves and kung-fu pandas!

/end sarcasm

May aswell start calling this game Guild WoW 2, can we have resilience gear, flying mounts and kung-fu pandas plz?

They may as well release gear with resilience…

Fudge it, why not introduce kung-fu pandas too…

No, to endless gear treadmill.

“As we release more new end game content in the future, you’ll see more Infusions and Ascended item types being added to the game. Eventually, you’ll be able to kit yourself out with a full set of Ascended gear and high end Infusions to help give you the edge in end game content.”

This is exactly what I did NOT want from this game.

If I wanted an endless gear grind I would have bought Borderlands 2, in fact, I’m gonna go buy that game now, at least it doesn’t pretend to be something it’s not.

xeph.8410:

HellsMachine.4083:

Jrunyon.3012:

xeph.8410:

bamono.7098:

The devs said they’re really there for the fractal dungeon, which is a whole new mode of play. I really can’t see why everyone on these forums is freaking out about it, to be honest.

Chances are, Ascended gear can be used in WvW like any other piece of PvE gear. Of course, they could very well make it so it’s not – we do not know yet.

Uh oh, better watch out for that warrior with the extra 5 precision, I heard he can one shot people with just one auto-attack!

All gear treadmills start this way, have you played Age of Conan lately? Another game that was supposed to be about skill, not gear.

Why did you make a calm and reasoned response to this snark? Now you take away all my fun.

LoL, well at least the forums might still be fun, atleast until I get banned, like I did in D3.

Jrunyon.3012:

xeph.8410:

bamono.7098:

The devs said they’re really there for the fractal dungeon, which is a whole new mode of play. I really can’t see why everyone on these forums is freaking out about it, to be honest.

Chances are, Ascended gear can be used in WvW like any other piece of PvE gear. Of course, they could very well make it so it’s not – we do not know yet.

Uh oh, better watch out for that warrior with the extra 5 precision, I heard he can one shot people with just one auto-attack!

All gear treadmills start this way, have you played Age of Conan lately? Another game that was supposed to be about skill, not gear.

Feel so betrayed… Haven’t felt this way since patch 1.3 in Diablo 3. Guess it’s time to find the next game that hopefully doesn’t break my heart </3

This game is dead to me now

Well I’m not even quite sure what ascended items will be at this point, so I’m not voting.

Can some one show us a link to a quote from a dev that says “Ascended gear will have better stats than exotics?” Because so far all I am seeing is speculation.

If I can buy the new tier gear on TP then I’m not too kittened off. If I have to grind a kitten dungeon for months to get it, I’m kitten finished with this game.

WvW gives good xp. Try that.

If so, when do you think it will most likely happen? I would like to start a thief character but would rather wait until after the nerfs, because there is nothing I hate more than getting my character nerfed.

Surbrus.6942:

Better idea. Put a capture point at the top of the EB jumping puzzle.

I like this idea.

Sokina.8041:

Because people forget that armies win wars. Obviously more organized groups are better than unorganized zergs, but an organized zerg will wipe out any “Super awesome 5-man party.”

It’s not a numbers thing, it’s an organization thing. Also, hating Zerging is the new cool thing. I’m sure those super awesome 5 man teams can’t hold an entire map by themselves. People think zerg = “Lol auto attack. Lol mindless. Lol bad.” But there’s PUG players that are just as good, if not better, than someone who thinks they’re awesome just cause they’re in a guild/party.

There’s lone players who’ve taken on these organized groups of people by themselves, and still kill a few. People just use backwards kitten logic and think of zergs as nothing but mindless. Enjoy pretending your navy seal team can win the war by themselves. Strike Teams are good for objectives, high priority targets, and more, but they won’t win a war.

I promise you, and I know this for a 100% fact. All these people who are trying to, lol, “Remove zergs” don’t even fully understand the negative impact it’ll have on World vs World.

Yes, let’s do anything we can to remove Zerging, and then two weeks later kitten, piss, whine, and moan about how the population of WvW is so ridiculously low. All these people who are trying to turn WvW into a super-hardcore-epic-uber-leet-organized-battlefield don’t even realize that the massive appeal of World vs World is the pick-up-and-playability of it that appeals to multiple audiences.

“Let’s extend World vs World’s lifespan by severing half of the audience!” LOL.

Yes, let’s remove the Orange Swords, let’s make it so people have to sit around crying and asking “Where’s the battle at.” Let’s make it so people have to sit there and “Scout” (Read: Wait for 30 minutes, an hour at a time.) Let’s make it so Pugs and Lone players don’t want to play, despite the fact that they’re useful for both sides, run supplies, provide healing, AOE damage, and additional targets.

Yes, let’s just take the armies out of World Vs World.

“omg zerg y u so bad. :[[[[[[[ " Translation? “Wow we just got owned by a group larger than ours.” Of course the massive 100 player organized guilds that all run as a group….yeah….,THOSE aren’t Zergs at all, right? Right.

It’s so amusing how people want to make it all hardcore to make it “Better,” without even stopping to think about how casual players outnumber “Hardcore” people in almost every tier.

Tl;DR: People think all Zerging is bad, stupid strategy. But what do these same people call it when their guild all runs at once as a group and rolls keeps. Definitely not Zerging, right?

Right on!

Surbrus.6942:

Zergging is a terrible strategy. You know all those camps, sentries and dolyaks your 40 man zerg killed? My 5 man party can do the same, and we can do it faster. A skilled/geared 2 man party can’t do it as fast, but can get the same results.

Go back to Orr with your farming trains.

And on the topic of how terrible zergging is. Earlier today on the Sorrow’s Furnace borderland, 10 of us Sorrow’s Furnace players flanked (~5 on the front, ~5 from the back) and absolutely obliterated around 20 invaders. We took no loses, and we killed every single one of those zerglings, even the “Master of fleeing from battle” thief that thought he could get away.

If you have found a way to counter a zerg, then why are you so against it?

I don’t think of zergging as a strategy, I just love massive scale battles.

Savvy?

yertle.5837:

Because having 50 people auto attack down your gate (who needs rams when you have 50 people) while outmanned is boring for everyone involved.

Zerg fights themselves are just a battle of who abuses rendering/stacking/portals more, or a 30min ARAM where people spam 1200 range abilities and nothing interesting happens – unless one side has more numbers, in which case they win by default, no skill required.

edit: also stupidly low fps for anyone that doesn’t have a $5000 setup, due to GW2’s poor cpu optimizations.

Sorry you have a kitten system, I built my self a decent rig for only $1500 AUD, but $700 of that was on the GTX680 alone when it first came out, they’re probably a lot cheaper now.

I don’t have rendering issues and my frames don’t drop below 30 FPS during massive battles, performance would be a lot better if I didn’t cheap out on a 60Hz monitor.

Ianervan.3415:

HellsMachine, on what server do you play?

It’s easy not to have rendering issues on some servers. I know when I test-transferred to some other server I didn’t have rendering issue either. But that’s only because it was less crowded.

I find it hard to believe forum is swarmed with threads “thief delaying camp capture”, which means out of 20-50 people no one sees him, and you say you have no issues. That doesn’t make any sense. If 10% of population did not have rendering issues there would be no situations where thieves delay camp capture.

I play on JQ and even during massive zerg vs zerg battles I am no longer being attacked by invisible people like I was last week, I assumed that maybe Anet fixed this issue, but you guys seem to still have it happening.

The only thing I have changed on my PC is a few nights ago, I ran Ccleaner and cleaned up all my temp folders, cache, history, cookies and other junk (about 9gb worth). Not sure if this is what fixed it for me. Worth a try I guess, just make sure you don’t change any settings you’re not sure of, as this may cause issues.

Would really like an explanation, as I really do enjoy mass zerg vs zerg battles. Seems like a lot of complaints on here are about zergs and trying to make the game more anti zerg. I don’t get it. Can’t you zerg haters stick to sPvP?

Don’t like OPs idea at all. What is wrong with a zerg being able to take a keep without siege? Just because you don’t agree with it, doesn’t mean it should be changed just for you.

Seems like you want everything changed so that the only players that have a chance of winning are the super leet organised guilds, that live and breath on teamspeak.

This game is supposed to be casual friendly, your idea is not casual friendly.

And please explain to me why you think zergs are a bad thing? How many wars do you know were fought with a single squad?.

I love the mass scale zerg on zerg fights, kind of reminds me of LoTR movie.

I think there’s more important issues that need addressing than graphical glitches, so my guess is ‘no’.

How I miss the gaming days before forums… People either liked a game or didn’t, they didn’t ask the devs to change it to cater to how they thought the game should be.

Selwynn.2758:

HellsMachine.4083:

I haven’t had rendering issues since the last big update, if you still are then perhaps it’s time to upgrade your system.

My system is fine, it still happens.

If you have the minimum specs required by Anet, then you have full business kittening about BUGGY gameplay. Don’t give me the “get a new system” BS.

Valid point, and I hope Anet do fix this issue for people with “minimum spec” rigs. In the meantime, should you consider upgrading your system, then the problem will be much less of a problem.

I’m running i2500k sandy @ 4.5 GHz, 8GB Corsair Vengeance ram, GTX 680, and an intel SSD, built it myself for about $1500 AUD (AU prices almost double US) and the rendering issue is barely there since the last big update.

Aenigmo.1754:

ROFL….the OP’s talking about WvW in a zerg setting which, for the most part is not a breeding ground for the usage of situational utilities or anything but spamming damage and running away when it’s obvious you’re being focused.

Keep trying though…it’s very entertaining.

Sincerely,

Not sure who you’re talking to, as you’ve included two quotes in your post.

Anyway, believe it or not, supportive skills such as heals, shouts, banners, buffs, debuffs and rezzing actually does make a difference in a zerg setting.

If your logic was true then a zerg of glass cannons would defeat a zerg working together using supportive skills, but I really don’t see it happening.

I play a bunker warrior and use shouts and have specced to take more damage when I’m rezzing someone. If you don’t think this helps my zerg defeat the enemy zerg then there’s not much I can say to convince you otherwise.

As for rewards, well because I’m in the frontline I often get killing blows and get plenty of badges.

Once upon a time there was a gate, it was black.

The end.