Huh, so it isn’t just my imagination that Endure Pain sometimes feels like it doesn’t do anything Good to know not to count on it.
And don’t expect the dev to fix it because you will be disappointed too many skill bugs but instead of fixing they choose to nerf nerf every class oh bug let’s nerf the class
This is why i quit GW2 so broken don’t get me wrong i played GW1 and i love it but GW2 first i think maybe i should give the dev sometime to fix things but 2 years classes are still broken they buff this class then other class will be a garbage maybe the original GW1 skill balance team are not working anymore at Arenanet well still i’m hoping they can fix this because if not i’m not coming back there are plenty of other upcoming mmo that i hope get’s what Arenanet try to endorse to us from the start
The patch has drawn in alot more players so yes it is a big success. Though I wish they would introducing a bracket system to separate good players from the new bad ones coz playing with noobs is very frustrating.
Yeah because when you match newbie vs pro it will make the game look unbalanced and that is the reason why we have too many whinners in the forum of you match newbie vs newbie it will look like balance and pro vs pro
i already tried it and it’s great but
1. please lower the effects of skills most of the time i can’t see my toon and my enemy because of the skill effects.
2. too much AoE in this game and most of it are low Cd after i spawn to the base
then outside our spawn camp other teams are spamming their AoE on the floor i don’t know where i can jump it’s annoying
3. if Anet fix the above mention deathmatch map will be great but for now it’s just a small WvW without castle just zerg vs zerg and spamm your AoE skills viola 500 points.
Make 100b as F1 skill like the 100b in gw1 make every attack double damage while using GS and make #2 skill Gash inflict 5 stacks of vulnerability for 10 seconds and deal 1.5k damage (insert animation here)
I don’t mind the nerfs it’s the QQ that I’m worried about since launch people wants to nerf warrior’s because of bulls charge 100b frenzy which in reality is not OP they are just used to old mmo that you have to use all your skills on your skill bar and win or use potion if your hp is going low no dodging just face to face combat until now I encounter this kind of players in tpvp wvw they just stand there attacking me then tell me how OP my class and anet should nerf it blabla
Don’t forget about the huge nerf to Building Momentum. That is probably the biggest nerf we will receive although 15% nerf to Arcing Arrow is pretty significant.
Lyssa runes needed a rework, don’t dispute that change. 5% from merciless hammer will barely be felt.
The torment on sword I must agree was pretty powerful.
However all of these changes together will be a huge nerf to the warrior.
Not for whinners they still want us to be deleted to the meta
Nerf what zerker stance? Do you know that I have to bring zerker stance and signet of stamina and cleansing ire melandru rune and -40% condition food just to survive against condition spamming build that can easily re apply chill cripple bleeding and poison you guys needs to play more against good player not those up leveled one running around like a rat being chased by a cat
I don’t know why other players still asking for a hammer nerf anet already nerf it and now because you can’t catch us you want our mobility nerf then what ask for stability remove then next ask for stunbreaker nerf then ask for armor and health nerf this game isn’t like other games that you just rush to your opponent then press all skills and expect them to die you have to time your burst and watch out for your opponent active boons and skill animation and use your surrounding
Ah why not ask delete warrior profession instead? First they ask to nerf our damage so they switch our traits but still you guys aren’t happy still crying for damage nerf then our CC Hammer telegraph animation only a guy that doesn’t pay attention closely will get hit by ES and BB then our LB I understand the frustration for the burning condition if I can only make it pure physical damage but asking for mobility nerf too much And I wouldn’t say why because if your a tpvp player you’ll know
If the new trait is great I don’t mind buying it with gems or gold every time they release stuff I like I bought it with gems so I can support the game. The game has no monthly sub but the devs are very active and hard working if you are not happy then play other games or pay for games with sub
This game will never be balance why? Because what I see is X player got killed by Y player then X player will go to the forum and l2p, qq ask for nerf equal no balance.
Passive heal for 200hp/s
Active while signet is on cd gain 5% of your current health every successful critical hit and gain protection if you use your burst skill and successfuly hit a foe.
Warrior just scales insanely well with tank stats, and through things like Armored Attack and hammer’s CC, can still dish out respectable damage.
I wish I could build some of my light armored classes that way, but if I spec as something like a tank Mesmer I’m going to be doing garbage damage compared to a similarly specced Warrior.
It’s not scaling.
The base damage on warrior abilities far exceeds other classes except maybe thief.
To test this, just make a new character and level both classes. The damage of 100 blades and axe autoattack is noticeable, as is arcing arrow.
And then you add into that all the trait % damage modifiers that warriors get. And the ease of might stacking by themselves, and the high fury uptime so they can easily crit while still being in tank gear. And then they made healing signet and stances ridiculous.
The warrior just kept snowballing into broken OP ever since release.
Show me a warrior that wears tank gear with insane crit chance and crit damage because I’m full zerker gear exception of melandru runes I 1 vs 1 a hammer pvt warrior and he couldn’t even make my hp go less 96% and I don’t even use my stunbreaker just watching his low damage
I’m roaming and got killed by a thief in 4 hits but I survived vs 5 to 8 players compose of hammer warrior, thief, necro, mesmer, ele it’s just a matter of how good you are and the other player you met in wvw and I’m using G’s/sword shield just keep kitting the xx players for 1 minute I’m not even fighting just running in circles on a supply camp
My opinion it’s not OP because if it is I don’t know that PU mesmer has low armor low hp. But with lot’s of boons to mitigate your attack and hide if you’re not playing conditions build PU mesmer will overwhelmed you by AI
…Well we all know that condition damage in general needs a major nerf.
Just to correct you…
Actually conditions themselves doesn’t need a nerf (like bleeding dealing too much damage to handle). Its just that certain professions are very good with overloading targets with various conditions (many of them damage dealing) … which means that its hard for you to cleanse them all while others can simply apply the same few conditions over and over that even if you cleanse them you regain them huge stacks before your condition removal skill is out of CD.
Still, this is possible due to to profession specific skills and certain runes (perplexity for example), not the conditions themselves.
have you watch a video a condi warrior can melt you in seconds
This whole nerf warrior BS has gotten completely out of control. since beta warriors have seen nothing but nerfs to their damage. when their damage was still decent they were considered bottom of the barrel garbage. nobody used them and nobody complained about them. Now you give them healing signet and cleansing ire and all of a sudden its a god kitten travesty. A GOD kitten TRAVESTY! lets mark some of the warriors nerfs.
-ES nerf
-whirling attack nerf (after the buff so its kinda evened out)
-zerker power nerf
-unsuspecting foe nerf
-sword AA nerf
-axe AA nerf
-LB nerfs
What you are honestly saying is that because a group of zergbusters whos job is to bust you, killed you, that warriors need another nerf. Please cry more i needed to lube up my typing fingers. There is a thing called stability. 1 guardian can apply it for 9 seconds with a decent build or 6 if they sacrifice boon duration runes for soldier. YES AMAZING! that means if you are smart enough to avoid their boon stripping then you dont get stunned almost 50% of the time! AND IT GETS BETTER! GET 2 GUARDS FOR 2CE THE FUN! OMFG NOBODY HAS EVER THOUGH OF IT BEFORE!!!!!!1
I consider the warrior the anti noob class. it kills noobs well and wrecks them utterly until they get buttdevastated but can be countered by teamwork just as teamwork can once again make them viable. its an odd relationship but it comes down to outplaying the opponent. You mans got outplayed then blamed it on warrior. its kool they are like the Obama of Gw2 right now. I died to a necro: WARRIOR. Perplexity OP: WARRIOR, that meteor shower just wiped my hammertrain: WARRIORS!!!!!1!
With over 3k hours logged on warrior and 2k on guardian and about 500 on the rest I can claim with some degree of expertise that you should not expect to lose to any decent warrior in a 1v1 situation and beating up a zerg is not much different.
Do you call an ele OP when you get 4v20d by 3 eles and a guard? HOHO THEY HAD 3 ELES AND WIPED US MUST BE OP! well ive done it before…
Nerfing the warrior would only hurt the few power roamers that are left (already getting f-d over by the crit damage nerf might I add) so please stop complaining about warriors being OP because hammer has not been buffed since launch and neither has warrior damage. We have gotten 3 buffs. cleansing ire, zerker stance and healing signet. None explain why you get wrecked when you expect to pug zerg a hammer train.
conclusion- Buttageddon
They think hammer zerg is Op even it’s not because most zerg warrior’s. Are frontliner. They will rush to you and bash or earthshaker you but once I saw a zerg I just pop stability and those hammer won’t stun lock me I find it the cripple and chill and immobilized. Are also the problem here and those are the classes behind warriors
Seems too many players here qq about warrior sure 2 warrior’s can stun lock you if you spec full glass without stability or stunbreak utility but 1 condition necro can kill 2 hammer warriors oh you will tell me zerker stance cleansing ire? Meander rune and food come on that’s Mt build and 1 necro burst me and my friend he just run away when he saw us pop zerker stance and when it ends we didn’t even know what hit us too many aoe conditions and our boons corrupted
I’m sorry but if 2 Hamer warriors lost to a condition Necro they seriously need to L2P. you are a hard counter to the condition Necro. If you would have said aMesmer I might have believed you.
Hard counter? Yeah but what is the range of hammer? And compare to condition aoe spam of necro? And did I just said he waited for zerker stance to worn out before melting us tell you what chill, cripple? how far I can go with my warrior using hammer with that condition on me if I swithch to sword and leap he will re apply the chill and cripple then poison, bleeding, etc if I use boons he will corrupt it
Seems too many players here qq about warrior sure 2 warrior’s can stun lock you if you spec full glass without stability or stunbreak utility but 1 condition necro can kill 2 hammer warriors oh you will tell me zerker stance cleansing ire? Meander rune and food come on that’s Mt build and 1 necro burst me and my friend he just run away when he saw us pop zerker stance and when it ends we didn’t even know what hit us too many aoe conditions and our boons corrupted
Warriors are extremely OP because they simply have every feature of the game that counts on them. This allows them to maintain high offense and defense at the same time.
They were supposed to melt on account of conditions, which was their known weakness at the beginning of the game. But, ANet for very good reason gave them condition cleaners because the class was too underpowered without them.
The problem is that other areas were not toned down as that was the one key weakness. So, they need a major reduction in something likely healing. A Warrior should be kill or be killed.
this is the only post i agree on because 1st i think anet give us too many condition cleaners they just make warrior as the fix for this condition meta instead of adding specific stats for condition damage not just 1 stat like poison damage , burning damage , bleeding damage etc.. i would love anet to bring back the UP warrior and re-design our stances like f1-f4 if we use defensive stances we deal less damage but we have sustain if we use offensive stances then we will have great dps just like for ele.
Hammer stuns are fine as is, without them… There is no reason to even use a hammer on war. A nerf to the damage on the stun is awful too. 2 sec stun nets you roughly 2 AA attacks at that rate with a hammer. And both of the stun/knockdown skills have obvious animations. Learn them, then dodge them. The knock back skill is fine as is.
You’re crying about loosing either damage or CC capabilities will kill the hammer.
Yust look at guardian hammer. Great CC capabilities aswell but rather low damageoutput. Yet there is noone claiming that the hammer is useless.
Face it, you can’t have both. GS, Axe both are great damage weapons. Both just offer soft CC. Mace on the other hand has 3 different forms of CC but low damage. Those weapons are balanced. The hammer is not balanced.
i believe hammer is balance since nerf i’m full zerker build and my hammer deals 2.5k unless you want to nerf it more like 1.5k well i don’t care as long anet will hasten the cast time or we will have like 3s stun on Earthshaker and 3s KD on backbreaker and make staggering blow like whirlwind just for clarification im not a power creep maybe they can put the hammer damage into traits like 95% more damage if you are using a full zerker gear and -95% if not something like that so everybody is happy because it’s really unfair for those spec for damage but when people see them dealing huge numbers they will come here and ask for nerf even the guy who killed them is spec for glass cannon.
Hammer are good for those who doesn’t expect or familiar with the animation in 1vs1 but saying hammer nerf because of ah hammer train warriors that’s plain stupid because your expecting to survive against a zerg and hammer is a good support weapon but I don’t use it because too many players already familiar with the animation. I use the most Op 100 blade because at that moment I know if I killed them and qq about 100b they are noobs
Anet is terrible at balancing pvp/wvw. Wars have zero weakness and don’t have to sacrifice anything to do damage. If you’re facing 4/5 hambow or s/s&lb wars in solo queue. Don’t even bother going for mid-node. Just afk.
If they don’t get this under control. It’s going to be the downfall of the game. (Well and living stories constantly having scarlet in them. Which, the community has already stated enough is enough.)
Sad.
same goes to minion necro and spirit ranger and mesmers have you fought 3 to 4 of the mentioned class and win? no and why do you expect to win against 4 players vs 1 you know who’s broken? it’s not the warrior or the game it’s the people who expect to kill 4 or more players in 1 build this is not WOW so get the kitten out and go back to blizzard.
the best part of the kill shot is that you can reflect it back to its source.
Also warriors aren’t broken isendel, you are. Try to turn yourself off and on again and see if that helps. Might want to unplug yourself for like 10seconds or so.
Seriously man, i’ve been playing axe/sword + longbow for a few matches now, i’m rank 42 and i have no experience with war at all, i’ve been effectively holding close point against r50+ people of all sort, engi decappers, mm necro, spirit rangers, there is nothing that can bear the pressure of a warrior, my aoe covers the entire control point and much more, my torment is up 13 seconds every 15, my eviscerate hits for 5+k, i remove 3 conditions every 7 seconds, wanna me to continue?
Anyway, i’m going off topic so i’ll stop it here..
Clap clap clap broken you mean multiple viable builds? Oh and you are not the only one that can stand on the point I face roll 4 players while dancing in the middle of a point guess what don’t be too proud of yourself. Sometimes those you beat in solo q are noobs doesn’t know the animations of Warr skills do you believe I don’t bring stability? Because I know how to counter cc warrior’s and do you know that I can stun lock a warrior with 2 stability skills because I read and time my attack and burst I don’t spamming them like crazy
Learn how to play don’t come here and ask for nerf you obviously calling attention but your ss and post sold you out I don’t go to thief, mesmer, engi, necro thread when they killed me instead I analyze how i lose against them so Nxt time I won’t be an easy kill.
warriors don’t need a nerf. Why? because we are already balance if you don’t believe me then i cant force you. this is from playing Only Warrior Class since 2012 got ups and down but i don’t care if D/D ele back then is a god and necro melt warriors like ice on summer it’s about how you counter the build don’t expect 1 build to rule them all. warrior has lots of viable build right now but other people think it’s OP instead of asking anet to fix their class so they can have multiple builds too. this is the only word i can say learn how to counter the build and you will win i’m kittened every time i spec and bring full dps utilities and fought against necro because they spamm their conditions but when i spec against heavy condition build i laugh at them. i hope you get what i mean.
GreatSword all the way and berserker stats for pve but if you want to have fun like me killing lots of Ai in pve Condition gear and dual sword / longbow is great i want to watch those stupid Ai slowly dying while im dancing
Yea, before the patch that nerfed the mace, hammer, and longbow, warrior was complete. If the goal of ANet is to achieve a class that has multiple builds that can flourish then they did so with the warrior pre-patch. But now the warrior has definitely taken a step backwards becoming slightly broken. ANet should have left the warrior alone but focus more on bringing the other classes up to par.
Thank you for being one of the few that appears to have correctly comprehended what I wrote. Several here seem to think that because their class sucks currently that Warrior should have to start sucking as well. That’s not how you balance a game and it’s really selfish thinking. I want every class to have at least one viable build on every weapon.
The same people that complain about how their class is getting nerfed then go and demand other classes get nerfed. We’re eventually going to end up with every class only having one viable build and the game will become stale and boring.
i knew this will happen i’m just waiting for TESO to come out and i don’t care if it have monthly fee if the dev isn’t listening to the vast manority of QQ’ers and WoW players that only know how to swing their God Mode stat weapons without using their brains.
You guys are crazy if you don’t think warriors are still far and above the best all around class. I main a warrior and if I play my other classes a few days and come back to my warrior I feel like a put on a god mode cheat.
i played mesmer for 5 hours and i face roll every class in solo q zerker mesmer is way better than zerker warrior with low hp , armor without OP HS , Cleansing Ire , zerker stance , adrenal health , CC now tell me how OP warrior is?
I am not crying. I bring up fact…Your 3 last post after I posted some maths is:
“You dont consider this and that” but you cant give examples…you just post over and over again that I am just a bad player. However I cant see you in the top1000 which means you dont do PVP and if you go WvWvW then troll there. People like you let Arenanet reconsider there warriors changes and seriously 8% nerf are not even close to what this class should be nerfed to.
well my healing signet didn’t save me from dying when i fought against Necromancer with minions Power + Condi? my so called OP zerker stance and HS i melt in seconds
are you the guy that stand and eat all my telegraph Earthshaker , Back breaker , skull crack , shield bash and i use my finishing blow staggering blow? next time dodge and don’t come here to QQ
if you are referring to pve i will agree with you but i tried to play other classes too the only class i hate leveling is ele they are so squishy. But if you are referring PVP this is QQ because i encounter a necromancer in WvW he cast a condi on me and my guild mate we never expect the outcome our 25k hp 3.4k armor is nothing and i’m using the OP Healing Signet , Adrenal Regen , Mango Pie , Cleansing Ire , Dodge march my hp is like a bottle with a leakage. well the good part is the necro admits his build is OP because we watch him faceroll every class he face while his running around spamming condi now tell me again how OP warrior? either your a newbie or not dodging if you come here and post warrior is OP in TPVP and WvW because you want your class to face roll every class with 1 build like other korean MMO.
mini is right when we post our build and other warrior wannabe copy/paste it then join tpvp or spvp with 3 other or more warrior that copy/paste it other class will QQ again we are so OP that even 10 players couldn’t kill us
If you use all your endurance for dodging hammer attacks then your bad you only need to dodge earthshaker and back breaker to avoid combo and it’s telegraph skills
Warrior are always OP for the noobs. Even before the patch for Healing signet , Berserker Stance , Cleansing Ire , Dogged March , Destruction of the empowered , Burst Mastery every time i read the forum they always say Warriors OP but after playing it, it’s not really that OP like they said the truth is other players who said it’s OP usually those guys who wants their 1 build to face roll every classes builds just like other korean MMO where you can rush and kill every class spamm every skills you have on your skill bar.
like this guy i fought in solo pvp i’m using a hammer and we all know that hammer is easy to dodge this guy is not dodging and i’m like wtf he eats all my hammer attack and mace attack then told me your class is OP. and for those people that QQ about hammer stun thank you because now hammer is nerf well their reason is 4 warriors in tpvp are OP but 4 minion master and 1 spirt rangers or 4 mesmer with illusions and clones is not that’s logic i don’t know why anet listen to those QQ in this forum maybe they are scared to lose players, but i agree LB is OP just a tip if you see a hammer warrior DODGE don’t go here in the forums and ask for nerf noobs.
@john if you are going to nerf the hammer damage please lower the cast time of back breaker because the only player i can hit with that is either stun which is useless because i already stop the player or players that unaware that i’m going to use the skill 99.9% they just dodge unless they are newbie players that aren’t aware of warrior hammer animation. Pls don’t nerf hammer in pve i love hammering those npc, defiant already make us useless.
I just hope when Anet tone warrior they wont nerf us to death but i still agree that we are not so OP that other people claim power/condi necro counter our OP regen most of the people who QQ about warrior being OP is talking about 1vs1 because certain build are counter to others they just cant accept the fact they cant win 1vs1 that was me before against mesmer but i learned that 1 build has its counter build, just admit guys we cant win all the time and dont tell me you always win tpvp using warr solo q because that would be a lie. What Anet should do is make more viable build to other class to level with warrs if we guys keep asking certain class to be nerf if we cant win against them then this game will be a joke stop acting like 5 years old that you always want to win everytime i remember i encounter this 1 guy on tpvp solo q trash talking everytime i kill him he cant just face the fact that his not dodging when i cast earthshaker he face tank every blow i throw out then call me OP.
Condition damage should be nerf Anet should start thinking about poison damage stat , burning damage , bleeding damage stat then remove the stacking change it with fix duration like e.g:
Poison your target for 15 seconds.
same with other conditions like burning and bleeding if the target already have one of this condition then the duration wont stack instead just reset the duration.
If Anet will change the function of our burst even we miss or evaded our burst should go on cooldown then increase a bit the cooldown of burst so its not spamable like 10 sec because more than that it will be UP since we dont have f2 skills then it will serve as condi cleanse and better than zerker stance.
I will be very happy if Anet change the effect of berserker stance into a offensive buff to something like this:
+20% power
+30% crit chance and crit damage
-70% armor and -50% hp
for 5 seconds with 30 seconds cooldown.
this way warrior can hit like a truck but also has a risk even you invest heavily into toughness and vitality this buff will be balance.
unless you will face tank all the warriors attack while this buff is active.
warriors are meant to deal damage i know the meta is condition right now but we as warrior class don’t need to have a utility that ignores condition cleansing ire is enough.
I know the mobility of warrior is great but we all know that chill , cripple will greatly hinder it so for a class like warrior we need to get close to deal damage or kill our enemy because most of the class that we will encounter are range the suggested buff will be useless if our opponent can easily spam those conditions.
I smell anet will nerf us after watching this video its obvious you cant burts him right timing of burst will kill him plus with npc on his side i also done this before trolling 5 players guess what 1 thief came and he burst me then others help im dead.
maybe add something to the healing signet active that will temp warriors to use activate it or make it 350hp /sec and increase it while adrenaline bar is full to 400hp/sec
Good to know not to count on it.