Speaking of which, Cele amulets make up almost half of everything represented. This is dominance in how many consecutive metas? Could we maybe start taking a look at nerfs? Please?
I still feel some players are using Cele when another amulet would give a greater benefit eg. mesmers.
Agree with most points except getting rid of Skyhammer. All maps should be available in unranked including Capricorn, Skyhammer and Courtyard.
ahahahhahahaha guardians got the cut. Which class is next?
Looking like druid is next. Can’t keep up with condi spam, doesn’t have as outrageous damage/sustain ratios, and is easier to focus.
Be interesting to see what Final Form do today.
For any Thieves, Warriors(or any other) that still put money into this game while anet seems to crush our dreams of a reasonably balanced experience in PvP need to STOP Spending Money. What Really Pushes Anet into balancing?
The answer is money. Money talks; it speaks louder than any balance thread.
That is why we need to vote with our wallets. I want everyone who realizes the lack of balance to pledge right now not to give anet another dime till they start making reasonable decisions in the balancing department.
So I guess rangers shouldn’t have put money back into the game when they were out of the meta for so long, or any class that found themselves out of the meta. Play another class if you just simply want to play something thats overpowered.
This is a fantastic guide, thanks for doing it.
+1k personal dps whole 55-90s with scholar? So mesmer doing like 8k-9k dps without scholar (personal dps, not counting phantasm)?
ya I think that person pulled a bunch of numbers out of thin air /shrug
Either way, zerker/assassins with leadership runes is the go to for raids OP.
And good luck grinding for those runes.
Who is Steve Fowler?
Why the hell hasn’t this been fixed yet?
Yes.. and the GUILD bank in wvw being gone = guildies have to leave wvw to get needed siege and food from Guild bank and get stuck in Q and not get to play all night due to taking away something else we had before that we had taken from us. We go through so much siege/ food sometimes we do not know how much we will use on a run, or commanders forget to grab it since we never had to worry about leaving to grab it before.
Guild bank is there I think, you have to go to guild registrar on each BL to access it.
HOT being harder is a big improvement IMO, the PVE in the base game was ridiculously easy. The real issue is the grindiness that’s creeping in.
Apart from the TD meta I agree with that, before HOT the grindiness could be ignored, now its far more prevalent.
Many of us know that the Guild Halls created an aspect where guild members could go and joke around in their own instance. Your guild hall is what you make of it. However, after capturing our guild hall I noticed several Guild Upgrades that we had earned before the expansion that were not automatically included.
1. +5 supply on claimed camps. It’s one of the last upgrades to WvW war room.
2. Claiming period. Why does this even need to be earned? But if that was a simple unlock then all the pre-expansion bonuses should have been unlocked at the same time.
3. The stat bonuses and other enhancements from claiming. We spent “Influence” on them. If you’re going to make us spend favor and materials on them I want the “influence” my guild spent earning them pre-expansion back so I can purchase more Favor in the new system. My guild was and is small and every point we spent was hard to earn pre-expansion. We had all the WvW guild enhancements unlocked pre-expansion.On a side note: Guild Catas are only bling now. You ruined the tactical advantage of making them by upping the supply cost to superior cata level. Pointless to even make them.
Yep what happened to not discarding what players had earned prior to HOT (I think Mike O’Brien said that)?
Or you can do something productive like learn the maps.
^ This. The new maps are a lot better than what people are giving them credit for.
The new map is actually amazing when you give it a chance, the fights you can get there are really varied. It just needs a better waypoint system and a minimum of 100 players on it.
I think it will be a lot better when its full although it will still have problems like being absurdly over complicated around the side keeps, the obstructions and the centre event. Which leads me to wonder about the further WvW changes, will it be to move to an alliance based megaserver like system which will ensure that at the top end the maps will be full? If so releasing the maps now smacks of idiocy.
There’s the whole guild upgrade process which is an absurd PvE grind not to mention the way our existing upgrades were discarded.
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Those weren’t all eotm, but you can keep thinking you actually know more than I on how to help wvw…
Most WvW vets have never gotten ANY levels from EoTM.
I know plenty of WvW vets who levelled alts in EOTM including GvG drivers.
On the thread topic EOTM factions offer no motivating factors to get players to login and fight whereas servers do at least have some identity remaining. I do think the mode needs to move to some sort of alliance based megaserver system but anet needs to be careful they don’t destroy the reasons players login and fight.
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I want it back as well.
Since all the fanboys and fangirls decided to derail your original question:
The “Manifesto” was a marketing strategy.
You bought the game because of what it said.
You purchased the game.
End of story.
And now the game in now way resembles it so people were sold a bill of goods hence they are upset.
Shouldn’t it only have been 2 mins for 1st dishonor? Sounds like something is really bugged with the system.
Because there’s a lot of people that DO care about their servers, and the communities that have been built there, and are only playing the game because of said community. And if said community was broken up, there would be a lot of people that would have no reason left to play the game at all.
But with server alliances the community isn’t broken up.
5. Roaming took a hit because of larger map with more spots to hide. Players just can’t reasonably find other players to play with or against.
Good post but added to this the roamers who took care of upgrades and whatnot now have less incentive to play due to the auto upgrade system. I think the auto upgrades have led to less players sticking around to defend.
Very bad idea. Becaus you take away the full customisation of the character. People love to costomize their toons and i do not mean pure visual things. Customizing stats and playing the charcter they build/acieved in PvE is one important reason why people prefer WvW over sPvP. Its a no go to reduce diversity.
And it will have a negativ impact on economy for Anet so i doupt it will be done. People work and even pay for acieving the exquipement they want to use against others.I feel like a lot of people aren’t even reading the original post…
I’ve covered your customization already. Increase stats/sigils/runes offered, split stats into 6+ sources instead of a single amulet. You can then easily achieve a standardized version with as much diversity as you have.
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You still won’t achieve the same level of customisation as now offered.
I doubt it was a planned conspiracy type of deal but it looks like it might just work out that the majority of the players who would not like the upcoming changes are no longer around to squawk about it. WvW isn’t in this sorry state because ANET deliberately sabotaged it, if anything it is the players who made them pay double for every mistake they made and magnified every exploit we found by doing what people do and playing games in ways the designers never anticipated. I don’t think they built EotM with the K-train in mind and all of the worst things about the new Dessert borderland are actually things I’ve seen suggested on these forums for awhile but just didn’t turn out as expected.
Nope its mostly anet, yes the new BL is them trying to design something to fix things players have complained about but their implementation is just poor. Like improving defence, players mostly want defending to be more rewarding, it was perfectly easy to defend towers on the alpine BL if you had a few people and siege. So they didn’t need to design the map to make defending easier.
Question to ArenaNet staff: I was queued up and when the call came to opt in a did so quickly…. after a few seconds it went to “queue abandoned” it was not by my own action that this happened. The game did this yet I was left with dishonor for 1 hour as a result.
Sounds clearly like the dishonor for the player that didn’t accept was allocated to you or the entire team. Bizarre and bugs like this shouldn’t make it into live especially with the league around the corner.
The new borders and mechanics (auto upgardes), were a pretty drastic overhaul as it is already though.
The only thing left is population imbalance, coverage and PPT/Glicko, but many of us have given up on that side of stuff, because it’s not what brings us back to WvW each day, nor is it that rewarding.
Well it could be some sort of alliance system whether it be server alliances or guild alliances. Its really the only remaining large magnitude change that could be made.
Yes it would be bad, variety in an unbalanced game mode like WvW is good as you search out small (but legal) advantages. Asc isn’t necessary for WvW so the grind for that is irrelevant.
Problem is its not early in the process from the sound of it. As noted by others the changes that came with HOT are undoubtedly all part of the overhaul referred to by Colin and its being implemented in something of a piecemeal fashion which may have been a mistake.
Elite: A select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.
We paid for “Elite” specializations. Of course they are better, otherwise they wouldn’t be called “Elite”.
How many times must this be said for it to get through peoples thick skulls, elite specializations are NOT suppose to be better than the core ones despite the name. The game director Colin J. said it himself, they are suppose to give classes different play styles that they could not get before (guardian with a viable long range weapon, engineer with a viable melee weapon ect).
That was a PR statement. Clearly they want people to buy the expac therefore the elites need to be stronger to encourage that. Not saying this is a good thing its just grist for the GW2 free to play money train. However I do like a lot of the elite specs better than the base specs.
no real announcement has been made. this is a vague, broad offhand comment given as a reason for not fixing something else that’s been missing from the game for years..
Plus it was made in a thread totally unrelated to WvW. Its not really new though because it echoes what John Corpening said and at least reinforces the fact that there are changes coming.
Some guilds are beginning to stack T1 again. When the HOT hype dies down, the PvX players will return to WvW .
PvE stuff has died down except for the raid so its past time for them to return. If they;re raiding then they’ll be doing that for a long time but I doubt thats a huge part of the PvX players that WvWed.
For crying out loud… you all forget that we don’t have to pay a dime but the initial price! While MMORPGs like WoW pay 15$ every month and they don’t get much more content than us in their expansions. While we will continuously get more and more FREE content + progressive story. Oh and please don’t go with the “but the gem store waa-waa-waa” you can buy gems with gold and its not that expensive.
This is fallacious, a large number buy gems, for a long time I was paying more in gems than I would have for a sub. If there weren’t large numbers doing this there wouldn’t be a game.
Yes there was more content in the core game than there is in the “expansion”. I put expansion in quotes, because so many people seem to think of this as a standard expansion. It’s not. It’s added stuff to the game that goes far beyond what a normal expansion adds. Not in more maps, but in a roadmap for the game ahead. It’s almost like Guild Wars 2 2.0 or something. Specializations and elite specializations are a complete rewrite of the trait system. Masteries are a complete rewrite of the post 80 progression system. Guilds now have a form of progress as well, and guild halls are entire maps.
Funny swtor’s xpac has done exactly that as well and has added a great new story and revised every system in the game to provide a platform to move forward, significantly more than in HOT and did it for 1 months subscription.
And you know what if HOT is the future for GW2 then its not a good thing, there are significant rumblings about the increase in the grind across every aspect of the game. The player unfriendly systems have moved closer to the toxic systems of free to play games and more and more players are put off by such systems.
SWToR with it’s “optional” sub, because you can’t get a second bar for skills, and you can’t hide your helm without paying a sub. You pay a lot more for your expansions in SWToR. If you want to compare, compare everything.
I don’t know a single person that plays SWToR that doesn’t sub. If you’re playing for free, you play the story and stop. After that you’re subbing. So yeah, they get $15 a month from those players and still sell them an expansion. People call Anet greedy. If only they knew.
SWTOR 1 month sub will get you preferred status with all of the annoying restrictions removed even once you unsub.
Yes there was more content in the core game than there is in the “expansion”. I put expansion in quotes, because so many people seem to think of this as a standard expansion. It’s not. It’s added stuff to the game that goes far beyond what a normal expansion adds. Not in more maps, but in a roadmap for the game ahead. It’s almost like Guild Wars 2 2.0 or something. Specializations and elite specializations are a complete rewrite of the trait system. Masteries are a complete rewrite of the post 80 progression system. Guilds now have a form of progress as well, and guild halls are entire maps.
Funny swtor’s xpac has done exactly that as well and has added a great new story and revised every system in the game to provide a platform to move forward, significantly more than in HOT and did it for 1 months subscription.
And you know what if HOT is the future for GW2 then its not a good thing, there are significant rumblings about the increase in the grind across every aspect of the game. The player unfriendly systems have moved closer to the toxic systems of free to play games and more and more players are put off by such systems.
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Guilds moving from upper tiers to lower is noticeable and hasn’t happened to a large extent. In fact the opposite has been happening, due to the availability of the guild arena for GvGs, GvG guilds that moved down to T3 a few months ago due to queues have been moving back to T1 servers since BG and YB came off full when HOT launched.
I suspect they hard coded how the mega server system works using data from core maps rather than real time update based HoT zones. This lead to empty maps in the new areas.
If the time sink aspect is the main design decision in the maps, they should allow players to choose queuing for a full map or go straight to an overflow like instances.
They should allow players to choose instances like most other mmos.
Are you just gonna ignore the fact that HoT maps are way bigger and pact than core game maps, tons of new features?
They aren’t bigger than core game maps unless you maybe take the different levels into account but upper and lower levels are not even close to complete levels in themselves. Plus effectively its only 3 maps with DS being just an event map.
Also tell me on MMORPG that offers the same amount of content in expansion compare to core game with same price, HoT has so much content compare to wow expansion(first patch of course), FF14 expansion(weekly/daily dungeon token gate).
HOT content is definitely not worth the premium price. I don’t play FF14 but I’ve heard feedback that there’s clearly more content than HOT. I do play swtor however and their recent xpac completely revised the whole game and was free to subscribers for the price of 1 months sub ($15) they revised the whole game and offered a story that is leagues ahead of the poor HOT story.
Seriously? Every HoT maps are at least 2-3 times the land mass of core Tyria maps, Also DS doesn’t count because it’s an event map? WHAT? Then Orr also doesn’t count as maps because they are also events maps, hell most of core Tyria are leveling zones so you might as well don’t consider they are maps too.
Take a look at a map with regard to size.
DS is pretty much just for the 1 meta event its not a complete zone you can explore like SW or Orr.
Are you just gonna ignore the fact that HoT maps are way bigger and pact than core game maps, tons of new features?
They aren’t bigger than core game maps unless you maybe take the different levels into account but upper and lower levels are not even close to complete levels in themselves. Plus effectively its only 3 maps with DS being just an event map.
Also tell me on MMORPG that offers the same amount of content in expansion compare to core game with same price, HoT has so much content compare to wow expansion(first patch of course), FF14 expansion(weekly/daily dungeon token gate).
HOT content is definitely not worth the premium price. I don’t play FF14 but I’ve heard feedback that there’s clearly more content than HOT. I do play swtor however and their recent xpac completely revised the whole game and was free to subscribers for the price of 1 months sub ($15) they revised the whole game and offered a story that is leagues ahead of the poor HOT story.
How or why would anyone want to exploit this? All you do is push 6 a few times and you win. Or like Azurem I just put it on autocast, so I pressed it once.
People were using it to level up, everytime I went there with my diff chars to get the HP I would see some low level guy repeating it over and over for the xp and levelling up, I would have reported it except there is no report option for exploiting in game, and if you try to report it via the website they tell you to report it in game, yeah anet logic at its finest, so yeah no wonder its taken them this long to notice the exploit.
This wouldn’t be an exploit, its a bug. If the hero point is giving xp every time its done then standing there doing it over and over again is no different to killing mobs in an area repeatedly for xp. The player isn’t getting around any wonky game mechanics they’re simply doing a hero point multiple times.
I do find it intersting that WTS 1 he was on the Abjured and they won with OE. WTS 2 they replace OE with NOS who uses necro. Now OE is using necro, i know im really digging into it but i find it to be a interesting story.
Chaith just mentioned this on his stream. He said they wanted Nos and it was between Chaith and Oeggs as to who got benched.
Hahaha and the people on the ele forums thought that tempest would never see the light of day in high level pvp. How about them apples.
Its 1 particular build with a couple of variants that most actually thought would be the only possible worthwhile build of tempest. So they were right in that respect. The difference is 1 of degree, most wouldn’t have thought it would become entrenched in the meta.
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Ppl complain if servers are full, and ppl complain if servers are not full. Oo
People aren’t complaing that theyre open they’re pointing out thats its clear evidence of the decline in the game mode.
You really should peruse some of the threads on the forum. Its not in a good place, the new desert BL is almost universally disliked, so much so that the WvW population has declined since HOT was released to the extent that no NA servers are full, they have all slipped to very high status as of today which is probably when the server cap calculation only includes data since HOT was released a month ago.
For comparative purposes the top 5 or so NA servers have all been full for the last several months leading up to HOT.
And he was interviewed after the match, which was LOL.
This matchup redeemed todays finals.
Yeah except he’s on reaper not engi :-(
I would have settled for an announcement that said “We have reviewed balance and found the current state acceptable for the coming pro league season” or at least some excuse as to why no balance patch. A schedule for balance patched and more communication would be nice.
Yep I agree, something along these lines given they said there would be balance patches 2 weeks prior to every season.
What a sad statement about HoT.
WvW is officially dead, ANET killed it.
But have they opened naturally or has anet manually opened them all or revised their cap?
Interesting just checking the HOT launch date and it was a month ago so it might just be natural. In which case you are right its not unexpected though.
The new manifesto is “Play our way or GTFO”.
GTW – Grind To Win
Some idiot posted the news on the WvW forum. XD
Bad luck :-)
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Well I did say all servers are open. Heck I’m considering moving my alt account to FA.
All servers are apparently now open so you can move to the server of your choice.
If you want to move to T1 NA and want competition and fights rather than to just PvD, Jade Quarry needs players.
Won’t The Abjured still be running thief?
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