Guild Wars 2

Use Reddit if you want to discuss WvW and voice your opinion. There’s absolutely no communication to be had in an environment moderated by Stalin.

Dawdler.8521:

It make no sense at all. The very idea that among the rampant discontent over the new WvW, someone at Anet suddenly thought “Oh I know! They’re not meant to teleport in for defense! Doh how could we have missed this all these years…”… its just incomprehensible.

It makes perfect sense. They just put it behind a paywall in the form of a level 30+ guild upgrade.

It’s kind of like the internal revenue service trying to come up with new taxes… “Breathing Air Tax”. It’s just like breathing air as before, except now you pay for it, so it’s a “premium” service, an “upgrade”.

As a WvW player, there’s precious little in there that I need, or I would, happily, spend more on gems. Primarily I’ve used gems for gold conversion and finishers. I do love finishers, and would like to collect them at all although not really at 600-800 gems per pop.

Because I don’t farm PvE events, I used gem-to-gold conversion to fund my solo storage guild’s influence (with scrolls) so I could put +5 on camps as well as offer all available buffs on a keep I claimed. That and the constant expenditure of superior siege were, aside from occasional buildcrafting, what I needed gold for.

Under the new system though I can forget about +5 and other buffs, and what with the pay2win classes’ survival and damage ramped up to the max I doubt I’ll need finishers much either.

The money is there, Arenanet just don’t understand the game mode enough to monetize on it.

If the pay2win elites weren’t broken right out of the gate, the noobs wouldn’t part with their money for them.

emendez.3705:

please add rewards in wvw they suck and compared to pve its just trash and no way to get legendary armor or weapons in wvw as well as no gliding lol

also pls add npcs and events sumthing fun like potions you turn into mobs then use guns that shoot more mobs out of them pve mobs that give shiny gear and dyes amirite

hedix.1986:

The old cata spot, the chokes on the bridge and in the Lord’s Room, visible surroundings [not obscured by overly elaborate (pretty but useless) cliffs and canyons], reasonable verticality, the snowy breeze caressing the cheeks of combatants…

Never forget the perpetually christmasy Citadel, structures that we cared for and upgraded ourselves, watersports while looking for a mesmer in Bay, flatlands where we could easily spot an enemy group and engage, jumping that was only restricted to the Jumping Puzzles and not forced on the players, good ol’ Henry the Worm (for some servers on EU), and last but not least, wandering heart and soul of Home BL – cute n’ fluffy yaks, the Real Dollies that you want to hug.

I’ve seen it called Henry on Gandara too, although unaware of the name’s origin. (Oh, and we called dolyaks ‘bessies’, which always warmed my heart.)

Beautifully stated.

As wet as bay water i suppose. Guess new players reading posts like this might not believe it there were actually big battles going on all over the place. From roam/havoc up to zerg/blob fights. Aaahh the good ole times..

I actually met you in game. Although I rarely ventured out of home BL, I was on your border incessantly tagging your keeps with angry people chasing me around (I main Mesmer). You were on a Ranger. We spoke briefly when you wearily asked me if I could end the nonsense, and I did. Still it’s a warm memory in my book!

Besides, the ingenuity of these “dropped hints” is that they don’t have to do anything to string people along for another six months, and when you finally start wondering where the major overhaul is, they can simply point out that they never issued any statements about one.

I like min-maxing stats. It provides me with hours of game time, finetuning my build. I can’t do any of it in sPvP. It also gives me the only reason to purchase gems: to convert into gold for gear purchases. I’ve spent months developing my build, which is one I have not encountered in WvW yet among my opponents (to my delight). It does not exist in sPvP.

I don’t play sPvP often because it’s made of cardboard cutouts. Every class runs the same build, because due to the fewer available options to choose from, there are only one or two good builds and a whole lot of trash. I don’t want that in WvW.

Whether or not it’d be good for WvW as a whole, I couldn’t say, but Anet would lose me as a player and as a gem customer.

Xillllix.3485:

There is a “major overhaul” for WvW coming and they’ve been working on it for over a year so it’s probably gonna be huge. I think we just need to be a bit more patient.

First of all, the quote did not say it was “coming”, only that they’d been working on it for over a year. What have they been doing for WvW over the last year that we know of? Building new borderlands. Is that work completely finished? Likely not.

There is at this point zero evidence, indication, or reason to believe that the “overhaul” relates to anything other than the borderland change which has already occurred. You’re deluding yourself into another year of waiting around for table scraps.

The major overhaul could simply mean the new borderlands and wrapping up the development on them.

Any mention of a re-haul sends a shiver down my spine when I consider the wonders they gave us with HoT. It’s apparent to me – since they’ve given me no reason to think otherwise – that whoever is in charge of WvW development right now has no concept of how the game mode is supposed to work.

FogLeg.9354:

Imagine fights between the players with gliders and players without. Just is not fair. The ones without would call it pay-to-win game mode.

It already is. Just look at the pay2win elite specializations. If they weren’t completely broken the noobs wouldn’t shell out fifty bucks to play them.

I think spelling “application” correctly might be among the prerequisites for filling one out.

I think the servers are going to become more “open” each day that passes by. I’m on a gold league server and two hours into reset we had no commander on EB and a queue of only 1. Practically unheard of.

This certainly explains Golem Week.

#neverforget

Well let’s check our Hotfix Prerequisites:

1) Gem Store inaccessible.
2) Gem Store has a typo.

No, sorry… Bugged walls just aren’t there.

I can almost take an SFR seriously when they talk about nerfing golems, while keeping in mind the nightly 12-omega trains to our garrison…

I downloaded it, and now my Asura is in a Charrian prison being passed around like a joint.

Seriously, I don’t understand the negativity. It’s a desktop client you enter your traits and stats into and it calculates the range of physical damage you can expect to see on a target for each phant. It’s not hacking your account. Install it in a VM if your tinfoil is wrapped on too tight.

I like it, the only suggestion I have at this point is, please put tooltips on everything. In the traits panel I couldn’t remember the symbols of the trait lines by heart, and in the main panel it took me random clicking here and there to realize you have to click on the weaponskill icon to process the new values. Also I’m not sure what the formula icon indicates… But I haven’t had my coffee yet so it could be something self-evident. So, yeah, tooltips!

Thank you for your hard work, it’s a promising app.

hypehype.9047:

1. lag, skill lag, fps drop:

No argument there.

2. exclusions from fights from other guilds; I thought WvW was a server vs server battle. so why do some guilds feel they have a right to tell people who they can and can not fight? (due to schedule guild vs guild battles)it just breaks the immersion when you are going round fighting and cap bases when people are using map chat to tell you “dont attack this guild as they are fighting that guild” i should not have to tip toe across the battle field, also the fact that there are a group of players taking no part in the WvW battle makes it pointless. there needs to be a separate server where guilds can have schedued battles.

WvW guilds are the heart and soul of WvW, and server identity. I’ve never been in the GvG scene myself so I don’t know how well other possible scenarios (OS, Guild Halls?) have or could work out. I think it’s very easy to spot impromptu GvG battles on the borderlands and you can watch them or ignore them. Let people have their fun. Besides, if the GvG is scheduled and not spontaneous, then it’s probably in a more out of the way place anyway.

3. one on one pvp in WvW; again same problem with number 2. i see two people fghting and the 1st thing that comes to my mind is , “are they in a dule?” should i help or not?" why am i thinking like this in a wvw map? again there needs to be a pvp server where people can have one on one dules with there gear.

Spontaneous duels between roamers are the best, from a roamer standpoint. No, we don’t need a “pvp server” for it. As you get more experienced in WvW, you learn to spot the difference between a duel and someone who needs/wants your assistance. Many people ignore the duel concept altogether and err on the side of caution and jump right in (so-called “red is dead” mentality).

4. mass blob, common denominator; i feel people blob up because the bases are to hard to take in small groups, this casue the fights to become monotonous where the most useful skill is the only one used. if bases were eaiser to take people would not feel the need to blob up and fights could be more spread across the map. (could this explain why people one on one pvp in this map? so they can actually use their class to the full?

Making objectives easier to cap does NOT discourage k-train blobs, it feeds them. It fuels them.

5, poor rewards playing wvw;

Spoken like a true PvE/sPvP player. It’s not enough that you get to relax and play a game and have a great time, you should also be rewarded for it. WvW enthusiasts don’t play the game mode for rewards, although I agree they need to be improved without encouraging k-training even further. It’s enough for me to make enough gold through normal WvW gameplay that I can afford gear, food, and upgrades/siege. The pwetty skinz I’ll leave to the likes of you.

I will be in pvp pve for now.

You have chosen….wisely.

I’ve reinstalled my Steam library. I have 40+ titles (although Valve’s fifty billion versions of the same game take about half of them – what’s the difference between Half-Life and Half-Life: Source anyway?), some of which I haven’t ever played.

I’d rather play a good RvR but those are practically non-existent right now. Hoping good things from Camelot beta, once it starts.

At this point I can only assume it’s their PvE developer team that’s managing the WvW changes in lieu of an actual, dedicated WvW team.

Phantom.8130:

And obvious the rams would be sponsored by Viagra

Ram harder than ever… with Viagra.

gagi.4012:

People that cant be bothered to run shouldnt be bothered to log in!

People who don’t bother logging in also don’t bother buying gems, eventually finding other games to play.

Your idiotic suggestions in these threads would only serve to shorten the lifespan of this game. People who take the time to write these walls-o’-text do so because they care about the game and want to keep playing it. If you on the other hand want the game mode to die off completely, then by all means keep promoting your toxic b.s.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-road-ahead-for-2015/

Nothing’s getting done until next year at the earliest.

I can’t speak to GH or RoF population, but I’m on Gandara and we’ve been bleeding people since this HoT garbage, and just lost one of our most prominent guilds due to server inactivity. The borderlands are a barren wasteland and at primetime EB had a one-digit queue last night.

Essentially, I think if you transfer into middle tier you are unlikely to see the improvements you’re seeking.

You’re a Guardian, so you’re in luck. Unlock Dragonhunter and spam traps. Problems solved.

Maybe the OP gets free gems for each of these garbage posts. It’s the only explanation.

Pillo.3490:

Tyler Bearce.3427:

We are looking at adding a way for players to earn Quickloot in WvW as well. We wanted to keep PvE progression (Masteries) separate from WvW progression (Ability Lines). However this means when a new Mastery ability is created, that might also be useful in another gamemode, it doesn’t automatically crossover.

Why not implement some of these useful masteries in WvW through our rank up points. People that have been doing WvW for a long time have an expansive number of left over points after maxing all the WvW abilities and currently we have nothing to do with them. New WvW players can choose to max it if they so choose.

Because there’s nothing Arenanet loves more than to create yet another currency which we’ll in six months have thousands of and nothing to spend it on.

I think he just saw “region” and copypaste’d the gem stuff.

I don’t blame them, they must be swamped with support tickets what with all the increased activity. I just hope the ultimate solution will be something more elegant than “buy the game again” or “buy gems”.

I play from Finland, and have done so for 2-3 years. I play on a European server.

A friend from WvW bought me the HoT upgrade as a gift. I applied the code he provided and it unlocked HoT. I was grateful and thought nothing of it.

Apparently HoT has changed my account region to North America. I am still on my good old European server, but whenever I play, the IP the game says I am connected to when I do “/ip” is a Texan one. So apparently I am being routed through North America which would certainly explain the lousy post-HoT pings I am seeing.

I contacted support and GM Shaolin told me to buy gems to transfer worlds.

I don’t want to transfer anywhere. I am already on a European server. I just want my account to reflect the region I am from so I stop getting routed through the States.

How do I make this happen?

White Knight Apologist:

Knee-jerk reactions are what gamers do best when it comes to change. Also, sweeping generalizations must be in season, because everyone is speaking on behalf of “everyone”. Those are are really rejecting the changes are the vocal minority who are frustrated enough to log into forums to complain. Many others are just doing Halloween/expansion content.

EDIT – Forgot the second part. Even after profuse complaining, many people will eventually come back and tool around. sPvP just doesn’t provide the experience you’re looking for when you are a WvWer, so though it is shiny and chrome right now, the pull will happen eventually.

No, they won’t. They’ll go to CU as soon as it hits beta or some other RvR. WvW fanatics don’t just suddenly become PvE enthusiasts because the same tired Halloween event returns.

misterdevious.6482:

“Its difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive Tyrian men or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the clocks will soon be here. And I, for one, welcome our new chronometric overlords.”

Without knowing precisely what the danger is, would you say it’s time for us to crack each other’s heads open and feast on the goo inside?

That was sad…

GROMIT.7829:

Yes

Delete EB and replace it with Desert Borderland.
Delete EOTM so we can get more people into real WvW.
Bring back the old home borders and tweak them a little bit.

This. So much this.

It’ll probably take 8 months to nerf since it isn’t Mesmer, Ranger, or Thief.

Entenkommando.5208:

Please explain me how the heck some PvE mobs shall be able to change anything about how WvW is played. Have you ever noticed their impact on the old borders? They don’t even rally you anymore unless it’s a veteran.
Yes, nobody cares about the mobs but borders would look even more empty without and I’m sure there would again be enaugh people complaining about that.
So basically they don’t disturb anyone but give the map a more round touch.

If the enemy does the pve event they can blow all the gates on the map open. The pve mobs are also part of the shrine b.s. which is for buffs like immunity to fall dmg. Obviously the constant threat of dying from falling is to provide a reason for doing those events, and vice versa. The pve mobs on the new map are more meaningful than the centaurs or skritts were, but they still serve just as a gimmicky distraction. Unless you really are here to argue that this megalaser bullkitten belongs in WvW.

Sagramor.7395:

I don’t fault WvW players for playing seasonal content (Halloween), farming to work on their Guild Halls, or even checking out the new PvE zones (especially since Notarized Scrolls have been temporarily removed). I do however fault the WvW players who aren’t playing WvW for any reason aside from those listed above (forgive me if I missed another legitimate reason). You’re only hurting your own game mode.

Oh ok. I was on for 3 hours the night before last in my home border roaming and found zero enemies. You want me to sit at spawn anyway? This helps the game mode?

Zanther Deathbringer.4762:

BassHunteR.7246:

They finally are achieving their goal:
Killing wvw mode once and for all

Most people on the unofficial wvw forums (the serious wvw’ers) disagree

GW2WvW.net? I’m surprised you could parse enough through the horrendous spelling and yomama jokes to discern some sort of consensus.

Straegen.2938:

I think the concept that WvW needed new maps was a red herring. WvW benefits almost entirely from more enjoyable fights. Anything that doesn’t serve that purpose is extraneous and while it may have importance it should be considered secondary.

Personally, I never could relate to the notion that we needed new maps. Even after 2+ years of playing primarily WvW, I wasn’t bored with the borderland maps; I thought they were great. I loved those maps, and my familiarity with them just made them all the more fun to play in because they “got out of the way” of fighting.

The only thing we needed was fixing existing bugs and issues…not creating a whole new batch of brand new ones.

Before the expansion, I played every night for hours. Since HoT hit, I’ve skipped entire evenings with no real desire to log on. The new WvW maps mark the end of small scale and roaming, not to mention defensive play; Spvp is a joke now that Ranked is unavailable which pushes all the premades with their DH clowns into Unranked.

The sad thing is, despite stating the post-release they would make WvW their top priority, I don’t think anything is going to happen to salvage this game mode I have LOVED SO MUCH for years now.

I appreciate that a great deal of time and effort must have gone into the development of the new map. The only problem is that it’s not a WvW map. They need to bring back whoever designed the original Alpine maps, because this new one is a disaster. But they won’t… It’s just PvE forced down our throats from here on out.

This involves WvW and not PvE or Gem Store, therefore there won’t be hourly patches issued to resolve it, unlike tooltip typos in PvE land.

I just think it’s hilarious that people really argue with a straight face that the reason the new maps are vacant is because veteran WvW players are in PvE.

There’ve been many PvE events before, and they never turned the WvW borders into a desolate wasteland. Sure, it may be part of it, but I think the fact that we only have one WvW map left – EB – is a factor, especially since many don’t particularly care for EB either.

What with WvW ruined with a PvE map, this was all there was left. Between kittenty matchmaking, OP elite b.s. and premade farm squads, I am seriously thinking about just uninstalling and being done with it.

>> Describe a typical hour for you in the Alpine Borderlands in the past. For example, What size of group were you running in? What kind of tasks did you run? What activities did you do?

I was part of the home borderland defense team. There were 10+ of us and party composition rotated as people came and went. We ran 4-5 people and played havoc style mostly, but also upgrading, sieging, and escorting cows, scouting towers and keeps.

>> Compare your experience described above with a typical hour spent in Eternal Battlegrounds, if you went there at all. Does your style of play change between the 2 maps?

I avoided EB as I don’t care for zerg fights. I solo roamed there a few times but did not care for it very much.

>> Compare your experiences described above with an hour spent in the new borderlands.

Lots of walking. People log off early. Not much to do. No point in sieging. No need to escort cows or guard camps. Everything runs on auto-pilot. Presumably an enemy zerg comes by and caps stuff because sometimes things flip, but I haven’t seen any enemies.

>> Describe the nature of combat in the borderlands in the past. How have the new borderlands impacted this paradigm for you? What style or build changes might it cause? For example, knocking people off cliffs or into lava might play a more important role.

I can’t knock anyone anywhere since the weapons I use have no such functionality. I played this game mode to fight people, not to troll them off cliffs. If you enjoy avoiding fights, I guess this map will be heaven for you.

>> In your experience, compare the time it takes take a structure or objective here, then it did in the past.

If it happens, I’ll let you know.

>> How is the loot and wxp for you compared to in the past? Will it be able to sustain whatever you are doing? Did it take a hit, or was it improved?

What loot? There are no enemy players and the PvE cron scripts peppered across the map don’t seem to drop anything at all.

>> If you are planning to unlock an elite specialization, do you think you were helped or hurt in these regards? Do you think you could pursue any other in-game goals just by playing WvW?

I don’t know that you can pursue any game goals playing this. How am I supposed to accomplish something when there’s nothing to do and no one to fight?

>> How will the map change impact the long sessions (multiple hours) you spend in WvW?

I went from spending 6+ hours per evening in WvW to not even wanting to log on. I’d say that’s an impact. My havoc group lasted almost an hour tonight before they left due to boredom. I am still on the BL map but just to chat with guildies that are doing PvE. Not sure what I am supposed to do on this ghost map.

>> In 100 words or less, describe how the new BLs could be improved.

The problem is that they can’t be. It would take measures far too drastic to fix this, and ANet will never do it. The distances are too long, there is way too much pointless, useless terrain to wade through to get to enemies that are not there. Too much dying from falling, too many PvE mobs, too much unnecessary distractions from the whole point of WvW: to kill other players in a competitive game mode. All this map does is get in the way of that. It would need a complete overhaul.

>> In 100 words or less, describe how the borderlands work to a new WvW player.

They won’t learn anything about WvW. It’s like EotM without rewards and with even less enemies.

>> In 100 words or less, describe how the borderlands work to a veteran WvW player that is new to the maps.

They are boring and confusing and distract in every conceivable way from what I have grown to enjoy: killing enemy players. I have no idea what this PvE junk is about. Killing mobs so that I can claim a “shrine”? Why? What do I care about shrines? Where are the enemies?

>> Which map am I most likely to find you currently, if you’re on Gw2?

Lion’s Arch. I like the guild office building. Not much to do there but to stare at the NPCs whose prices for upgrades and whatever are wildly outside the wallet of your de facto WvW player, but the building looks cool. I sit there while I chat with guildies about Camelot Unchained and how cool this game used to be.

Usual Anet patch. One step forward, two steps back.

Even if by some miracle they increased the iDuelist damage, they’d just nerf it even lower than it was pre-buff a few hours later, so for the love of god stop asking for buffs.

Would be interesting to know what their rationale is for the PU nerf. Do they actually have one, aside from “too many forum threads with PU in the title”? After all they increased the duration originally, presumably having done some testing on it, so what was the big issue that was later discovered which was not found during the original testing and was subsequently sufficient grounds for a nerf?

A considerable number of the buffs the trait rework granted us to much Mesmer community applause has been nerfed to near-uselessness, and the only reason I can think of for the lack of appropriate uproar is that people are still in a state of quasi-orgasmic excitement over the prospective Chronomancer builds.

Until those get promptly nerfed 3 hours after release.