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Honestly at this point it looks like it really doesnt matter what gear we use, it all comes down to individual skill among all 10 and how they synergize their skills. If ur everyone is dodging/avoiding blue and orange circles with right gear, ur job as a druid is a breeze. I have no exp with bosses after vale tho, i just hope i didnt waste all that gold into zealots for nothing

Prophet.1584:

nacario.9417:

Would be great if people could share their experiences in the raid as healing druids. Please share gear and utility skills, and impressions.

Personally i had success with nesrly full zealot. It doest look like we need the extra vitality in the first boss as if someone misses the circle ur raid takes a hit % based on max hp and not a set damage number? Also, did u notice any difference with healing vs zerker druid, i hear some claim that healing can be done in zerk gear, to me that says the entire raid group didnt take to much dmg, how true is it?

I found sitting in staff being a thing also thanks to great AF regen from traited healing spring and signet of the wild (tho maybe filling a utility slot wit it is lazy play). Im unsure whst was better vs elite spirit and glyph, perhaps the elite glyph is better for burst healing if someone messes up, your thoughts on traited elite spirit?

I was pretty much ok with just using CA form skill 4 and 3, while at times i was using 1 when sitting at range in circle, your experiences here?

I ran a mix of clerics and zerk gear. with food I had about 1k healing power plus modifiers and the heals where good but not as high as they could have been. I think I may add on more healing power and keep the modifiers. we got the boss down to about 20% but kept hitting the enrage timer.

I think the heals are good enough at around 1k healing power but there’s no harm in overhealing and the group may be able to go more offensive if you’re able to keep them topped off.

Then id rather keep them alive/relaxed than me doing a lil more dps. Staff zealot set is decent dmg aswell.

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

Knowing Anet, in a hotfix in the next few days they remove AF generation on all forms of ‘hp regen’ (not just the boon). I already transferred my gear to another profession in anticipation (The launch nerfs were already bad). That, and that druid feels useless in Raids, GG anet.

And here i thought druid looked very much mandatory in raids

Would be great if people could share their experiences in the raid as healing druids. Please share gear and utility skills, and impressions.

Personally i had success with nesrly full zealot. It doest look like we need the extra vitality in the first boss as if someone misses the circle ur raid takes a hit % based on max hp and not a set damage number? Also, did u notice any difference with healing vs zerker druid, i hear some claim that healing can be done in zerk gear, to me that says the entire raid group didnt take to much dmg, how true is it?

I found sitting in staff being a thing also thanks to great AF regen from traited healing spring and signet of the wild (tho maybe filling a utility slot wit it is lazy play). Im unsure whst was better vs elite spirit and glyph, perhaps the elite glyph is better for burst healing if someone messes up, your thoughts on traited elite spirit?

I was pretty much ok with just using CA form skill 4 and 3, while at times i was using 1 when sitting at range in circle, your experiences here?

I can see it being super fun if u have ppl with same mind n skillset, failing cuz of playerskill really is annyoing in the long run.

With SotW itll constantly keep my AF up 3 4 seconds before my CA form can be used again. Without SotW one is dependant on doing damage and healing to get enough AF, a few times i couldnt before CA form is up, though healing spring is amazing for doing that. I also found sitting in staff way better than to my other zealot sword warhorn.

SotW is really strong though, i hope they dont nerf it as it covers an important utility slot

They tend to rotate items, not having to many on gemstore at a given time. I saw another version of Belindas GS for some time ago, datamined, it had like a smokey glow on the blade, this would be nice to have

SW is like a small adren boost from orr events, catering to all players. SW also lived longer due shovels and crest dropping from event rewards, at some point during a CF map it would result in an event map.

I find the new maps just the same as after each meta the event chains start over again, every 2nd hr or so. Difference is map verticality and harder mobs. The overall incentives to do them is to get machetes though due to crystalline orbs, whereas CF SW farm is more of a money maker

As others have touched a bit on, everyone should want to know that each raid member is up to par gearwise. We all have busy lives and why waste potential hours because someone was trolling.

About time theres some downside of being an asura :P

I must admit there r times when theres potentially great 1v1 2v2 where one would like to see specifcs making outcome, and for some reason they decide to swap cam spot, but its their show

Yasha.5963:

nacario.9417:

Yasha.5963:

nacario.9417:

If you want traditional battlegrounds/team deathmatch with sort of rules/even numbers, then unranked is the way to go.

As others have said, Hot join is random and is meant more as a testing ground, even the rewards are less.

Did you even read any of my posts? Jeez, its like talking to people with wool in their ears.

Why do you expect people to listen to you when you throw insults around? Is that how you are in real life, must be quite a breeze.
Since I am such a nice person without wool in my ears I will explain to you that I am writing to OP that is complaining about Hot joins, and how they work. Therefore I am merely explaining the take veteran players have on Hot joins, what OP wants in reality is unranked/ranked mentality – hence why he should go there.

And no I did not read any of your posts, sorry if that is insulting, but OP made the thread not you.

But you didn’t read any other posts in the thread explaining why veteran pvpers think hotjoin should be fixed, and furthermore decided to remain ignorant of other players’ opinions by still not taking the time to read anyone else’s posts on the topic, instead spending your energy on passive aggressive insult throwing.

Because I dont have to? Everyone has their opinion that they share, I addressed OP based on his concern and moved on as this is a dead horse, Hot joins have even been abused to rank farm, which is fine for Anet, that says enough. Your concern is that I didnt read your reply many posts below and therefore I got wools in my ears apparently Sadly I am not as adept and can have a 100% overview all the time, being able to read every little tidbit and prevent frustration.

kitten widget.9301:

Retsuko.2035:

Was really surprised one time when I got hit by this skill for 12k after trying to burst dps the rev without succes (too tanky) so didn’t make sense to have a tanky rev dealing so much damage. CoR needs a damage nerf, not a cd nerf imo.

Also the rev in general needs a nerf. It currently takes no skill to play the class succesfully.

If the rev did hit you for 12k he wasn’t tanky at all, you need to learn to don’t hit the herald when he pop Infuse Light…

This And rev has access to blocks too, a blocking target can still be squishy though. Yes the world is hard.

Absconditus.6804:

The Herald hymn constantly chugging along is way worse. It overlaps with the in-game music, which is just messy. Exciting battle music mixed with a serene hymn clashes so bad my ears starts to bleed.

Just turn off player instruments in sound options and it will be gone! Sadly that means you wont be able to listen to random flute music in the world, how I miss it!

Yasha.5963:

nacario.9417:

If you want traditional battlegrounds/team deathmatch with sort of rules/even numbers, then unranked is the way to go.

As others have said, Hot join is random and is meant more as a testing ground, even the rewards are less.

Did you even read any of my posts? Jeez, its like talking to people with wool in their ears.

Why do you expect people to listen to you when you throw insults around? Is that how you are in real life, must be quite a breeze.
Since I am such a nice person without wool in my ears I will explain to you that I am writing to OP that is complaining about Hot joins, and how they work. Therefore I am merely explaining the take veteran players have on Hot joins, what OP wants in reality is unranked/ranked mentality – hence why he should go there.

And no I did not read any of your posts, sorry if that is insulting, but OP made the thread not you.

Mefiq.7039:

i rly want to see some class just destroy guards so they will start crying on forum. Too bad there is no class that can even compare to amount of bs this class has in thier disposal… Even when meta was somehow healthy Medi guard were bursting enemy with UTILITY SKILLS. Not weapon not f1/f2/f3 Utility + traits were singlehandly bursting enemy to the ground. Then burnBuff came and guards got thier hands on another bs. better ring of fire that once you cross it and dont condi clear(that can easily be forced on you cuz he can pretty much “burn” your condi clear before)it will deal around 17k DMG. ANd its 1 Utility skill alone buffed by 2/3 traits. No need to bother even using weapons. I could still go STAFF/GS for fun and kill ppl with Utilities alone. Now we get DH, and guess what? Longbow is rly powerful, but we wont even see that cuz most of dh’s arent even using it properly, Spam traps – wait for enemy spam traps on them once they get dragonmawed(dragon maw most fun skill, if i dodge to evade it i will still get walled i will just dodge dmg/slow and once walled even if this skill disapears(on some graphical options this skill is often invisible)you still get 1 sec on wall near you. And not only that. Teammates that didnt get cought will still get knocked by “invisible wall”. Fix this shi….

I just want that Every class should somehow be ballanced around amout of CC/AOE/SURVI. Cuz once you get class with every cc every aoe and every survi this is getting out of hand…

I have only played two classes since HoT release and I have beaten competent traditional/metabattle DH on my power ranger (though my pets usually gets blown up in the process), same goes on the power shiro/herald sw/Shield + hammer rev, both in spvp and in guild halls. It really does help creating a DH for yourself, take it to hotm and look at traits and skills so you can make a sense of what they have at their disposal, and work your way around it. I actually prefer figthing DH cuz they are very distinct/have a set rotation so you can easier predict them. It’s important to find a way to trigger/avoid their traps without eating damage yourself (ranger pet, rev hammer 3), while also dodge/avoid their LB 2.

Of course not all classes have it the same vs x class, but thats just how the world is and should be. In any event i fear an auramancer (Tempest) or chrono more than a DH, but thats cuz I currently play ranger and rev.

If you want traditional battlegrounds/team deathmatch with sort of rules/even numbers, then unranked is the way to go.

As others have said, Hot join is random and is meant more as a testing ground, even the rewards are less.

FrozenHeart.9243:

Today was a bad day… I can’t express how frustrated I am. I think I’ve lost like 18 out of the 20 games I’ve played today. Now I don’t know if I just suck at this game but i don’t think a player should endure so many losses in a single day even if he sucks.

It has never been this bad pre-HoT. Feels like matchmaking is worse than ever….

Notice here I am not blaming my teammates but for the love of god let me win a game =/

If you truly want to succeed you must be more specific, what, how, why, when.. only then you can pintpoint what you must do differently and better.

Find a class that has a build with playstyle you like, look up guidies/utubes of how to play it’ Know that theres a vast difference in playing a thief/engi for ex vs a guardian or something more sustainy/tanky, start from the easiest. Know your role (expectations and what you arnt nec meant to do/achieve), know your skills (keybind them) and trait, know rotations/how to achieve whatever your role is like damage, be aware of sorroundings (use map, know where to be at all times to highten your teams chance).

You could also upload videos and have other people comment for feedback.

Idk why but i cringe a bit seeing those stuffed ‘dead’ animals attached to a clothing item.. no thanks, ill take my generic leather shoulder

Can somone make a guess when raid patch will most likely be here today, based on past small n big patch releases? EU + US time

NiloyBardhan.9170:

SlayerSixx.5763:

Kosard.9720:

does 8,000 damage for getting hit by one ability seem fair? i rest my case.

100b, rapid fire, melee mind wrack, back stab, unload, grave digger are among only a few skills that can hit that much, if not more.

My warrior, with your average zerk build, can hit 17k on his 100b (burn stun breaks and hit 50% HP and its insta GG). My thief can land 10-12k unloads. BP > HS+steal with procs is over 10k as well. My guard can whirl for almost 9k (a lot more of I throw in SoW).

You can argue everything else like how it covers the entire point, how they burn your dodges using LB2 and then daze you with traps so you can’t use your utilities and get eaten up all while fighting from 1200 range or how they have an kitten of CC, but let’s not cry about damage here like they’re the only ones that can burst.

What? 100b takes a huge effort to set up the attack properly and most of the times it doesn’t land all 8 strikes on the intended foe. 100b channel is actually 3.5 second long and with 8 separate strikes while traps’ are instant. How on earth did you compare the two?

100b is easy to setup, you just press 2, some chose to stand in it, some leave, the cycle of life

samo.1054:

This skill atm is ruining WvW raids even further than they were ruined before with stabi changes and the shift towards pirateshipping.

2,0 damage coefficient at 1200 range, on 2 seconds cooldown, 5 targets, gg Anet!! It’s like… I don’t even know what to say about those numbers up there, really…

Then may i suggest fully upgrading SM and use the much anticipated feature, the stealth fountain to hide in, 2 min stealth.

Yes either add 1v1 or let us at least queue from guild halls, it’s redicilous how they just cant answer us on this. Hotm is still the same boring after over 3 years time. Why do i have a feeling that their lead dev is reading all our feedback and giggling while drinking his morning coffee? The social experiment is a success i guess..

I would never use the mistwrap anyway, it has horrible clipping issues on back shield

Maybe raids will drop them

Is this EU, please be EU

I got exotics 6 magi main armor with (asc) zealot weapons and (exo) offset. I was going lb for offwep but maybe sword warhorn could build faster AF in those fights were u can do some dmg/if it happens, like when vale guardian splits up into several, inbetween CA cd (as we also wanna keep that 15% raid dmg up). Will be interesting to see how stronk the regen ticks r from warhorn and elite spirit. Outside of that ill just sit in staff. Pretty stronk ontop 50% healing output from monk runes, transference sigil (but wow so exp..), food, and traitline. Not quite sure what to use from utility tho.. today will be an exciting day. I just hope healing wont feel too off/clunky as ill probl have to move around alot

I see in the build listed above it has zealot trinkets rings etc, but this cannot be obtained yet?

LughLongArm.5460:

nacario.9417:

I think for Vale guardian one can be quite succesful by taking note of power, since u will be doing alot of autos from staff that scales from power + not everyone needs heals all the time, especially when they learn how to avoid damage (not like in WoW where one is meant to spam heal as u cannot avoid there at much higher extent). At the same time I do see the 15% raid dmg bonus being a big factor though. There has to be a middle ground somewhere.

Guess Ill go for that sweetspot 1k healing power (possibly magi exotic main arnor) with monk runes, and then ill go for power and vit somehow in offgear. What would u guys suggest for weapon stats?

Edit: I tried to go for more healing power gear but all from the vendors is power toughness healing, which ups my toughness a lot (something I dont want). Is there a way to get other stats with healing other than toughness or condi? Are there vendors in orr maybe that sells exos?

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Equipment_acquisition_by_stats

You can get magi from everywhere. Also, ascalon pvp reward track is on ATM. Its magi gear with monk rune already attached and tokents to get more ascalot gear/runes so…..

I already have full magi with monks, but thanks. Now im just left on what stats to pick on for staff since I have 1k healing power with berserker staff/lb (or if healing is noticable past 1k mark then i may as well go either magi or cleric on staff, toughness atm is 1400)

I think for Vale guardian one can be quite succesful by taking note of power, since u will be doing alot of autos from staff that scales from power + not everyone needs heals all the time, especially when they learn how to avoid damage (not like in WoW where one is meant to spam heal as u cannot avoid there at much higher extent). At the same time I do see the 15% raid dmg bonus being a big factor though. There has to be a middle ground somewhere.

Guess Ill go for that sweetspot 1k healing power (possibly magi exotic main arnor) with monk runes, and then ill go for power and vit somehow in offgear. What would u guys suggest for weapon stats?

Edit: I tried to go for more healing power gear but all from the vendors is power toughness healing, which ups my toughness a lot (something I dont want). Is there a way to get other stats with healing other than toughness or condi? Are there vendors in orr maybe that sells exos?

Teutos.8620:

Ragnar the Rock.3174:

Only 1 trap is instant and they all put out a daze before any damage occurs.

A good player with decent ping can turn enemy Dh traps into wasted utility slots via dodges, pets, clones or invulnerability skills.

This guy again -.-

His answer to everything is dodge -.-
True Shot damage is fine, because you can just dodge the 9k.
Traps are fine, because you can dodge the 4-5k.
So, you just had to double dodge, how do you prevent Dragon’s Maw, Spear of Truth pulling you back into the first placed trap, the next True Shot, the 4k dmg auto-proc after you CC’d the guard? …. I need to dodge JUST dodge them too right? xD

Maybe if you Dragon Hunter would not just spam your traps into the first two dodges, you could actually imagine how strong the DH is.

BTW: If you are fighting a ranger or mesmer and you don’t want their pets to trigger your traps, how about don’t place those traps at your feed and waiting for the pet to engage first? (Not to mention, that just to kill the ranger pet is a huge deal too; you can just stand directly on the test of faith barrier to easily get rid of the whole ranger profession mechanic.)

Sounds like u wanna be a daredevil!

Anyone else experiencing this type of thing? Strange that there isnt more feedback regarding this, or it could be only affected to some specific systems. Feels like its 64bit client related though since they started after using it.

nacario.9417:

During play sessions i get a few times huge fps spikes/lag/stutter that lasts for max 10 secs. If i am listening to anything in the background like utube it also stutters the sound while this lasts. This can happen at anytime, tho mostlikely in graphical intensive encounters, usually once per pvp match which results in me dying.

Is there a way to troubleshoot this? Gfx to alter in settings? It all happened after i started using the 64bit client, and ive always ran all gfx settings on max prior just fine.

Win 10, i7 3770k, SSD, gfx 680, msi 1155, 16 gb ram

If i were to go bk to 32bit client i would start crashing again, compared to the short unplayable stutter now.

Bump. Anyone else experiencing this, tips? They still going strong

SHM.7628:

+1…. This is the games problem in a nutshell. Unless you play 20 hours a day you feel locked out of entirely too much in this game. The OP plays 5- 6 hours a day and up to double that on the weekend and he feels like a casual. This speaks volumes. This game feels too much like work.

Is what the OP asked for too much? No! He wants is the best stat armor to play the game with. He probably has well over 2,000 hours of game play by now.

It’s not like he asked for a free legendary.

The thing is though, you can get the best stuff if u just have an overview of what must be done, so that the time available can be better spent. One little example is that when I log in daily, I have 8 lvl 80s stationed at big gathering spots, making 8 9g a day, at spot for materials that always are in demand, and it just takes 10 minutes! That is efficient play, and you can be casual or hardcore to pull that off. That is what OP seemes to be lacking, set a goal and find out one of the better/faster ways to achieve it. Before I did tequatl daily, it gives about 14k karma with karma infusion for just max 10 mins work daily, and it dropped me a lot of ascended weapons that I could cheaply change stats in the forge, instead of crafting, and I also have 3 mill karma which is nifty and will be in the future most likely.

Just some short food for thought to OP.

Swiftwynd.1685:

Razarei.2809:

I logged in to say how awful your “balance” decisions are, and people like you are exactly why people with legitimately good balance ethos’ are ignored.

This this thread pains me to read.

Couldn’t agree more.

+1

Shadelang.3012:

Kodiak.3281:

Black Box.9312:

Yeah, I agree. I do think that CoR damage is kind of crazy, but there’s no way that it would hit for 12k against a target with 3k armor unless there was a very unique set of circumstances.

The only way this happens is if it’s boosted through the moon such as with Cruel Repercussions and even then I’d be very skeptical of a 12k hit on 3k armor. Boasting inaccurate numbers just isn’t going to do anyone any favors.

CRepercussions goes off a lot because of Guardian’s Aegis. It’s almost impossible not to see at least one block with CORuin which if you run untargeted (so an auto attack doesn’t get it) means you can fire off the second one a few seconds later for MUCH higher damage.

As for “git gud” to be honest there’s no get good part of the skill in WvW. There’s enough ground targeted things you are going to get hit by this. It’s just how it is. Same goes for most ground targeted stuff in large scale (read 20 v 20 or more) you’re just not going to avoid it because often times it’s on you before you can see it through all the visual noise (Friendly and enemy looks identical).

The more logical counter is simply kill the Revenants. If you are rocking maximum DPS gear you don’t have any armor let alone a large health pool. We are very vulnerable to CC without a Guardian group similar to Necros.

I agree revenants are vulnerable to CC. But the hammer revenants defensive skills AREN’T affected by CC. So once you burn through the cooldowns there VERY easy to kill. Its just getting through those cooldowns in the first place that can take awhile. Most builds burst phases last 6-10 seconds. A decent revenant (doesnt take alot of skill to pull it off) can stay alive that long going through UA,Shield 5,Trait Shield 5, Glint heal) and have a fight thats in there favor afterwords if the enemy used all there cooldowns. So taking a revenant atleast in small scale usually takes a bit of time as you have to save cooldowns yet simultaneously force there procs to occur without burning yours.

But you are also talking about a power based opponent. In that regard the rev has its strenght, while vs a condi he needs all that you mentioned to prolong it, as it sort of works as his “condi removal” by avoiding/denying to much condi application. If a strong condi build gets to do its rotation on rev after infused light, then rev goes quickly down, it makes it balanced. Regarding hammer, it is strong, but again if the enemy goes in melee range it lowers the damage output.

LughLongArm.5460:

Remember that glyphs proc by proxy grace of the land, which is a nice dps bonus while not in CA form.

Could u elaborate on this? Im not familiar with glyphs atm, do they have passive effects or only actives, and the actives are based on non CA or CA right?

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Wait a day, than we know more.

Right now, everything is more or less speculation. With the raids going live tomorrow, we will actually have some information on how much and what kind of healing is needed.

Patience I say.

But I’m raiding tomorrow and I need some healing gear :P I’m prepared to potentially having to re-Mystic Forge ascended gear.

Fluffball.8307:

This thread is just a few posts down. No one knows for sure, but this build is my best guess for what will be needed.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Build-Druid-Dedicated-Support/first#post5760481

Yes thank you, I’ll have a closer look once work is over

It’s been a while since I’ve been to this forum section, but I did a quick rundown on page 1 of relevant threads before seeking knowledge.

I’ve been asked to be a healing/support druid in our guild raid. Having no prior experience with ranger PvE I have a few questions and thoughts I would be grateful to get feedback on, while I understand much is yet to be tested.

First of, having watched the first boss in beta, Vale Guardian enrage timer and what Anet has previously stated in raid blog posts, my take is that raids are hopefully not so much about classes/meta, but more about having the right builds for x situation/boss fights, mastering the encounters with knowledge and speed. For example berserker can still be a thing since its best for power, viper for condi, while you could wear some slots that increases Vitality or Toughness, with skills/traits that supplement your allies. Defeating the Vale Guardian gives a nice starting indicator that the raid have “the” DPS and shouldn’t necessarily be too worried from hereon (I believe in a summary vid somewhere it was mentioned that each player needs at least an average of 4.5k DPS to dodge his enrage timer, which if true isnt super high..).

This brings me to the next part, as a druid I will most likely be the main source of healing, what options are there with Healing power that supplement damage/survivability? I need to do damage inbetween, either condi or power. Being in gear with healing power and condi would mean I’d have to swap in combat from staff to axe/torch during phases when one could do damage. I could(?) do less damage should I go with Power (as optimal Power builds require Power Precision Ferosity as opposed to Condition and Expertise), but then I could safely sit more in Staff as damage is higher with it.

What stats on main armor, weapons, trinkets, amulet, rings, back, would you go for and why? I was thinking maybe Zealot (Power Precision Healing Power) could be a thing with some vitality pieces, but I’m not sure how expensive the insignias are if I wanted to convert my berserker ascended in Mystic Forge. What should the Healing Power threshold be to make an effect on output?
What of heal/utility/elite skills, and traitlines (Nature Magic, Skirmishing, Duid)?
Having never really had an experience with Duid F5, what have your fav rotations been in a PvE setting where you would have to keep someone up?

Great, and i who had hoped my 161 was the end in HoT but alas. I really do hope they add mastery points inside the raids

Sorry but i dont buy that ‘3 days with no help’ comment. Had u used the lfg ppl would rush to u, faster in the later hours

Would it be crazy if players couldnt send gold to each other via mail? At least it would solve a lot of frustration on all ends, though i could see why many also wouldnt like it

I have had this for a few days now, no dev response in 64b client faq

nacario.9417:

During play sessions i get a few times huge fps spikes/lag/stutter that lasts for max 10 secs. If i am listening to anything in the background like utube it also stutters the sound while this lasts. This can happen at anytime, tho mostlikely in graphical intensive encounters, usually once per pvp match which results in me dying.

Is there a way to troubleshoot this? Gfx to alter in settings? It all happened after i started using the 64bit client, and ive always ran all gfx settings on max prior just fine.

Win 10, i7 3770k, SSD, gfx 680, msi 1155, 16 gb ram

If i were to go bk to 32bit client i would start crashing again, compared to the short unplayable stutter now.

Screenshot or fairytale.

This has been asked tons of times but anet remains silent. According to anet spvp has and is steadily growing.

I have a feeling going something with condi, healing, x stat, is better than going full heal support, as u kinda wanna do respectable dmg as well (unless later ok there r hard mechanics making ur team take big repeated dmg). Since asc gear is so exp to make i would hold off just yet, i dont see how it could hurt going exo main gear now in the beginning so one can fine tweak it with asc once mechanics r known beyond vale guardian

If u sit on a rev in melee when hes hammer then u deny CoR. I understand it is powerful when used on zergies/randoms, but every class has powerful stuff, and CoR doesnt make a rev the god in 1v1 (id say rev’s quite in the middle)

Cant tell u, but here r def ways within gathering that is very profitable with items which will always be in high demand. I make 10g in 10mins for instance daily on 8 chars stationed somewhere, and that is one way.

Offair.2563:

^ Manual upgrades – running dolyaks – keeping camps safe/reflip them, THAT generated fights for roamers. And that is all gone now with this auto pilot.

This. The old love is gone in these new layered pve maps, devs claim to listen yet this very basic feature that makes magic in wvw is taken out.

And what an excellent well written post OP. Im just glad EB isnt all that changed, as that is the map Ive always stayed in. The stealth fountain is redicilous though.

U need the 2 stab on dodge, itll buy u a five sec window.. ofc try n dodge a cc or hard dmg first than waste it. None is forever immune to cc anyway