the foundation of the game is solid. end game was functional, albeit broken in some ways like rewards etc. but functional. gw2 was the most complete MMo ever released.
yep this is broken
Please don’t confuse people. Pets are good against dummies, that’s all. Thank you.
just trying to help out those who wanna use their pets in pvp. for now, i’ll take your comment as a baseless opinion, because from my experience in spvp and tpvp, pets work just fine.
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can someone explain =(
i always saw PVE as a bonus to spvp, upcoming tournaments, and WvW. PVE is the sugar coating, yet it’s arguably the best on the market (maybe not the most plentiful). now we have all these disgruntled mmo’ers coming in, trying to chase their carrots, and complaining on the forums about difficult content, lack of rewards, etc.
GW2 has enough of a fan base to keep it going for a long time. no sense in pretending it’s all doom and gloom because a few raiders and powergamers are shedding their whiny tears. while theyre probably more than welcome to enjoy this game, GW2 wasnt really made for them.
no1 is afraid to point out GW2’s flaws. in fact, it’s giving WoW such a run for its money that everyone and their grandma is finding something to complain about just to bring it down to WoW’s level. Yahtzee liked the game, actually.
by now, ANet is aware of all the flaws and theyre busy as hell trying to incorporate the feedback. cant wait for the first big patch.
Enjoying dungeons? I was until I only got 6 tokens for completing it for the first time.
Are these guys actually trying to destroy their own MMO a month after it comes out? I don’t get their mentality at all.
meh. just be patient. do something else for a while.
just ran TA, had a blast. 2 bosses need to get buffed though (first and third champion), they could be facerolled. rest of the dungeon was amazing =) gj ANet
would love to hear a word from ANet about current plans to make DE’s more challenging.
the animal forms would be perfect as utility slots in PVE and WvW. currently, no one, and i mean no one, uses an animal form in place of a tome or Renewed Focus. hopefully you have some concrete metrics to indicate this. im speaking from experience (WvW, spvp, tpvp and PVE).
if you wish to keep them as ults, add more utility. also, stability would be a must. currently, the damage is decent, and you can cc a few mobs or a player for a few seconds. but they dont last long enough and you can arguable achieve more outside the form.
if you wish to keep them as is, please move them to the utility slots. i would go bear/leopard in place of a shout for example, but even then id have to think about it.
to keep these abilities as ults, another alternative would be to drastically decrease the cooldown. in that case, no other changes would be needed. getting knocked around while in bear form is ridiculous.
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i assume you guys arent running staff/scepter/torch/virtue/consecration builds? there are some amazing wvw builds out there that not only support your team, but can turn the battle around. the only build that doesnt really have a place in WvW is meditations. shouts, spirit weapons, signets, and consecrations are all boss.
my owl and jaguar seem to have no problems landing hits on moving targets, as long as they have some sort of movements buff (i.e. 30% speed from traits). and the target doesnt even need to be crippled. but if crippled, u do land more hits.
you didnt tell a story. the title of your OP is “Game Losing Its Appeal?” you asked a question, and then gave your opinion.
no you dont really care how many others feel the same. your post is a covert whine designed to complain about the game and attract others who feel the same so you can feel good about yourself. like all other threads of this nature.
cuz you asked the question “is the game losing its appeal?” objectively answered, no it is not, because half the servers are still full at peak times and there is still huge interest in the game. but you knew this. basically, you just wanted to whine and get attention.
Where do you get your facts from? “because half the servers are still full at peak times and there is still huge interest in the game” Can you please post a link from a legit source that says this please or are you just assuming? Still huge interest? No it isn’t losing it’s appeal? Sorry but your answers are all just your opinion based.
I would bet money the interest has gone done since launch and the login at peak time from launch has gone down as well.
did you see the servers yesterday? 14 full (up from launch). and i get my facts from World Selection screen. hater.
no you dont really care how many others feel the same. your post is a covert whine designed to complain about the game and attract others who feel the same so you can feel good about yourself. like all other threads of this nature.
cuz you asked the question “is the game losing its appeal?” objectively answered, no it is not, because half the servers are still full at peak times and there is still huge interest in the game. but you knew this. basically, you just wanted to whine and get attention.
bored? cool. try something else till the next xpac/content patch hits. what else do you want us to say?
GW2 is an alternative to the WoW’s of the genre, and many of us are loving it and staying.
basically you powergamed a little too hard my friend, and beat 300+ hours worth of PVE content (not counting pvp content) in a month. and right now, youre trying to grind. but it’s not that kind of game. what are you “supposed” to do? WvW/spvp, or quit and wait till the next xpac hits.
Orr and DE’s should, by far, be ANet’s greatest priority right now
GW2 "endgame" model is fine. Execution doesn't make sense tho, problem and solution.
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+1 many times on the downleveling being horrible for lvl 80’s. not only do you 2-shot mobs when youre downleveled to a lower zone from 80, but the rewards are terrible. if ANet wants Tyria to be a world that is revisited many times, they need to 1) fix DE scaling, and 2) improve rewards and nerf downleveling. these are fairly simple fixed and would make a world of difference.
If I can do it anyone can do it. There’s no trick to it
Let me rephrase then: The next trick is to get other 4 people that did it and are willing to do dungeons.
dungeons are amazing.
they delivered everything in the manifesto, but unfortunately encountered a lot of problems when the system became stressed by hundreds of players. DE scaling being one of those issues for example. im very happy with ANet’s achievements.
Pre-stealthing and Guarding the Jaguar? I’m having trouble imagining the combat flow.
sure. i pre-stealth the jaguar so the opponent doesnt see him (you still can, but it’s hard if youre distracted). as someone mentioned, you can also stealth it in the middle of combat, but i dont see the purpose in that because pets are generally not focused in pvp – there’s too much other stuff going on.
i have to admit, i often dont open with sword/horn…i mostly use the horn just to get around. if i really cant shake someone, i’ll switch to this set and pounce on them with my pet.
it’s a burst build so just pop all your CD’s when your pet is next to the target (RaO should be up all the time when it’s off CD), and at about 30% health, use SB’s #5 to interrupt the heal animation…most of the time, the target will die before casting the second time.
im leveling with this build in PVE, i’ll let you know how it goes. right now, it’s really micro-intesive, but my pets are squishy and im only lvl 15. i can imagine cats failing against bosses and hard hitting veterans/champs. you’d really have to read the mob’s animation and withdraw/switch the pet. fortunately, with this spec, pet switching CD is rather low. the bird is a fantastic alternative because it has high vitality and precision.
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Idk what your build is, you need to fix your link, but all pets do around the same damage area
not really, cats and birds do significantly more damage than, say, canines and bears. probably 20-30% more. and copy-paste the link into browser…not sure why i cant get it to work from OP.
the rune of svanir suggestion is interesting, but youre giving up additional 5% damage and lots of precision. i dont think it’s worth it.
thanks for the feedback guys.
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Yep. That’s true. But this is weakness of class too. There are situations when pet can not attack or die too quickly. And… well… it’s just boring to see such low numbers of damage. For me, at least. Roughly ranger makes at least 20% percent less damage than any other class.
you just dont know how to use the pet. pets are borderline OP.
cats do a lot more damage. they have more precision, but less toughness and vitality. canines have more control, yes, but tbh you dont really need control for this build. my ranger is pretty tanky, with lots of vigor and endurance. i like using the jag’s stealth because people dont see it coming, and it protects the pet on approach.
similarly, birds have a lot of precision and vitality, and hit very hard. the high vitality is ideal for Protect Me. owl is my favourite bird, for the chill. arguably, more viable alternatives to the jag are the lynx and snow leopard.
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so far, ive only played AC and CM. i loved these dungeons. firstly, i love the dungeon mechanics. if you dont mitigate/evade, you die. my friends and i were having a blast in CM today rallying each other, and overall, struggling to survive while making some amazing plays. secondly, i feel theyve been executed very nicely. high quality stuff, not something that was rushed. a lot of thought went into dungeons.
i never enjoyed instances in WoW. you could faceroll through them., and you only did them for gear. even heroics. they felt like a chore. in contrast, GW2’s dungeons are a true challenge. it feels like a big deal to complete one. ANet, please make more and please dont nerf the difficulty, despite what some may want. they need to adapt.
anyone else having a blast?
relax bro, give the game a year or so, im sure u’ll have plenty more builds available. long story short, GW1 was not a good pvp game. it really wasnt, objectively speaking. making constant comparisons to a horribly balanced pvp title does not help your arguments.
it’s not a problem. pets do ridiculous damage. get the 30% movement speed buff in skirmishing line, and above all, cripple your target. pets arent meant to be DoT’s. they dont stick to the target constantly….this would be broken OP.
have you people any idea how much dps pets can pump out? it’s crazy.
LB is just fine, ive seen some amazing LB rangers tearing it up with healing spring. also, pets are in a very good shape.
the only thing kinda subpar are the spirits, but even they arent so bad.
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Beastmaster themed spec that does ill burst damage. it’s actually kind of disgusting. ive ambushed guardians at 60% health with RoA up and straight up melted them before they could react (maybe they werent the “best”). survivability is excellent as well. pets are more than viable…theyre borderline OP. ensure you have 30% speed and that youre crippling/immobilizing your target before unloading (common sense).
- jaguar (stealth + QZ + sick em + RaO + cripple + ??? = profit) and snow owl
- swapping pets gives you QZ on demand basically
- pets apply bleeds on critical
- shouts. theyre good. use them. Protect Me and SIck em are much better than all 3 signets (wild, hunt, stone) due to low CD. really makes all signets entirely pointless.
- tons of vigor, tons of survivability
i plan on doing PVE with this as well. pets with points in beastmastery have a lot more survivability.
pet swapping is a really interesting mechanic, and you really shouldnt be losing your pets. even in PVE (unless against boss, which is broken).
contrary to popular belief, pet AI is decent. yes, they need to stand to land their attacks, and yes they sometimes have problems turning sharp angles; but this isnt a problem as you should have some sort of speed buff on your pet at all times, and when youre unloading your burst, your target should be cripple or immobilized. if pets did not stop to attack, they would be broken OP. pets arent meant to stick to the target at all times…theyre not “DoTs”, like they were in WoW i guess. pets are meant to punish opponents that are standing still, or moving slowly (crippled, chilled). you cant juke the pet forever.
Addendum: did you know that Guard is actually very interesting? it stealths your pet for a long time and gives it a lengthy protection boon. stealth breaks when it attacks.
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about time Orr gets fixed…after all, it is the open world part of the “endgame”.
sigh
Ysvelda’s arms clip through her dress in all parts of the sylvari personal story. did no one watch the cutscenes prior to release?
me o/ still having a blast. almost 200 hours in…certainly dont plan on slowing down, bad for my RL =(
I stand by my assessment that Sic ’Em sucks.
have you tried it with Quickening Zephyr and skirmishing traits that improve pet critical damage? when my jag jumps out of stealth with Sick em and QZ, he can maul someone’s face off.
ranger traits are amazing. we really dont need to discuss this.
pets do ridiculous damage and are very responsive currently. you can specialize in pet damage and be a happy camper. Sic ’em and Protect Me are great shouts, especially when traited.
traps are meh, but they can work very well. signets are decent, far cry from useless. and survivability skills are excellent.
this basically leaves us with two downsides: spirits are subpar, and some utility skills are a little boring. functionally, theyre not subpar, just bland. but that only goes for a few.
overall, i feel rangers would be in an amazing place if spirits got buffed.
But it’s not at all accessible to a casual player – even one who has played other MMOs, because this game is so different than other MMOs.
the more advanced aspects of the game arent handed to you on a platter…it’s how it should be. the game asks of you to invest just a little bit of effort.
If they were better implemented, more people would use them. If the majority of players are ignorant, that’s the fault of the game for not explaining itself well enough.
i dont really care about people’s ignorance, as long as it’s kept to themselves.. i care about the condescending filth being spewed on these forums by whiners who arent bothering to learn the game.
I agree, OP. Considering how long this game has been out, it’s disgusting that most players aren’t as pro as you already.
Maybe you should write a guide.
my post is about those who are complaining about dungeon difficulty and shallow combat, without having tried the combo fields.
Lornar’s Pass for example – i remember flying through this zone doing DE chains for 10 levels straight.
uh what? get a buddy, go to the mists, practice on the golems. combos arent an IDEA, theyre an existing, viable mechanic. they were left as a bit of a mystery for us to figure out. get it?
i think gw2 has plenty of carrot, but not enough to detract from the fun.
i see a lot of complaints about dungeon difficulty, button-mashing combat, shallow combat, weak builds, etc. i invite you to spend some time learning combo fields with a friend. this is where a lot of the complexity lies. well-executed combo fields make ALL the difference in dungeons and pvp. please take some time to understand this crucial game mechanic…it’s rewarding, fun and deep.
a little while ago, JP stated that the team was “looking into” 1) DE bugs, 2) DE scaling, and 3) world bosses.
is there anything on the drawing board? DE’s are the heart and soul of GW2. Currently, most don’t scale to large groups, many don’t even scale well to small groups, and quite a few remain bugged. and world bosses resemble loot pinatas =(
i feel like there needs to be a once-over for all the DE’s in the game. im reporting bugs for as many as i can find, but i cant really report all the ones that dont scale because that’s most of them.
the foundation of DE’s is amazing. i still get excited to see orange circles on the map. unfortunately i get burned more often than not, leaving a DE disappointed. im not saying they all need to be epic, but they should be somewhat challenging to break the monotony of heart quests.
the joy is IN GAME, where one builds skill with said professions, and not on the forums where noobs whine before even attempting to adapt and learn.
this event does not scale in any way shape or form. about 15 of us, 1 skritt spawning at time. we had to sit through 10 minutes of this until the morale bar was at 0%
DE’s are the heart and soul of GW2. most of them do not scale properly, many dont scale at all, and some are completely bugged. please…do a complete once-over of all the DE’s.
looking for a dedicated WvW group that is currently very active in WvW, i.e. not a group thats “farming so they can look cool in WvW in the future”, or “rehearsing”, or “preparing”. but a group that is willing to just jump in and take the objectives while leveling up. the group should understand the mechanics, and raid supplies, caravans and towers in small, organized squads, only joining the zerg when necessary.
im a good pvp’er (guardian, mesmer, engie and ranger) and would like someone to roam with =)
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Dungeons are mostly great. Noobs haven’t learned to utilize combo fields and mitigation. Rewards and a few bugs needs to get fixed.
PvP is the best on the market hands down and has pulled me away from dota2. Wvw could have been sold as a separate game.
Pve content is challenging if u engage mobs and events 2-4 levels higher than you.
Events and world bosses must scale better against large groups. That’s my only complaint. Overall best mmo launch to date.
If you force yourself to sit on GW2, you’ll inevitably burn yourself out and you’ll find even more things to nitpick about it. So take a break ^.^ <3
No, that’s the whole point of an MMORPG.
It should be like a virtual life for you.
this is exactly what GW2 isnt. it’s: an alternative for those tired of the old formula, a casual-friendly MMO, and a pvp-centric experience. some people DEVOURED this game in 4 weeks and now theyre complaining after getting their 300+ hours of fun for $60. guess what? the rate at which you consumed this game, and the fact that you were glued to it since headstart indicates that ANet made a fun game. you rushed through the content and burned yourself out – no one is to blame for that other than you and your habits.
I am a mega fan boy by the way…guess Im just disappointed.
yeah, you hyped the game up for yourself to a huge extent probably. in addition, you likely did not research the game well, watch enough videos, etc.
ive been following this game for 4 years and i got exactly what i expected. ive also played a lot of MMO’s and in fact, i expected glitches. despite a rocky start (shared by every new MMO), this is hands down the smoothest MMO launch to date.