Guild Wars 2

Here is a hard CC/stunlock type build I made recently. It is mace/mace & hammer, mace/shield is also acceptable but I like the new Tremor. It is pretty fun, you can do decent damage, you have good condi reduction and you can still survive some damage. The grandmaster trait in defense has a lot of variation depending on your playstyle. You can go for hammer trait or the mace trait depending on what you use more, an extra endure pain or the retal trait. It is really up to you for that Grandmaster trait. I like the weapon based ones for getting that extra damage out personally.

A typical rotation would look like opening with mace 5 to knock them down, use mace 4 for vulnerability, mace 3, go into mace burst, then switch to hammer and use hammer 3, into Earthshaker into hammer 2 and then hammer 5. You can also work out your own rotation.

Make sure to use your weakness on mace and hammer and remember to use your dodges wisely. You will also get vigor from your 2 stances so you will have access to vigor as well. And with unsuspecting foe you will be critting alot if you take advantage of your 2 stuns on the hammer and mace. With a Knights amulet with a zerker jewel you will be able to last awhile while still doing respectable damage through crits, especially if you take advantage of the hammer or mace trait for the extra bonus damage.

Most builds don’t have anywhere enough stability to avoid all of your CC and if you properly bait them you can get them into an easy 6-7s stunlock.
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=VuBCt-BFSKVP0g4ZL-60;9;59T-T;13;0189;145ALoV4-NW4TsW6TsW68Bq

P.S. If you want to annoy people even more, slot Rampage lol.

That trait should not be gated behind the enemy hitting critical hits.

Israel.7056:

I think the reason it seems like SoR has more people is because they’re just generally more coordinated than BG. They have everyone going after one thing at the same time or they’ll be coordinating hits on several objectives at the same time so it feels like a coverage thing.

lol!

I hate watching the SoTG and them talking about other professions and how good they are and all the viable builds they have and all their cool abilities. And then you realize Warrior is never talked about in that way.

Dirame.8521:

Bsgapollo.5364:

- Still no source of condi removal. ( Removing condi’s through burst skills is not what I call a viable option. Especially if you have to spend 20 points into defense which is basicly the worst kittening tree ever for warrior. )
- No kind of sustain what so ever.
- Only a handfull of builds we can go since we are forced to use berseker amulet
- Barely any usefull utilities. Since we got stability/stunbreaker skills left and right on every class it’s nearly impossible to land a bulls charge now. Not to forget the frenzy nerf that happend in the past which is basicly just saying to your enemy, “I’m taking an extra 25% dmg for the next 6 seconds so all you have to do is kite me a bit and I’m a free kill !”
- We are a melee class yet we can’t even hold our ground for more then 5 seconds when we are in the middle of the battle cause we just melt instantly.

Why is it that a melee class that is forced to engage into combo to hit any of his skills has no source of condi removal or sustain ?

Either make the warrior his skills hit targets easier or do something els. As how things are right now the class is unplayable.

Warriors aren’t forced to use Berserker amulet. There are builds with perma fury that can use Soldiers or Valkyrie’s.

I think Warrior’s should start thinking of something other than 100 blades.

Ah yes the ol’ classic “you warriors are stupid and just need to try new stuff”. As if this game hasn’t been out for almost a year and we haven’t tried everything already.

Sabre.1275:

JonathanSharp.7094:

Thanks for the feedback. We intend to watch things in the meta and make small adjustments accordingly for ALL classes, including the Necro.

Warriors dont need small changes. They need drastic changes: The class feels extremely unresponsive, slow, cumbersome. Its like I am playing underwater with an extremely poor connection when I play a warrior.

I dont think improving their traits alone or their “health” is going to be a good fix. Instead of tinkering with things that could make them overpowered in PVE, why not just speed up their animations, pre-cast time, and more so that they can actually do something in pvp besides telegraphing slow and unresponsive moves with a huge windup.

Even if you bring warriors to the level of other classes by improving their traits and abilities, they are still going to be awkward and frustrating to play as long as their slow animations, cast time, and weird mechanics (self rooting melee attacks) are left in the game. Warriors need an overhaul

When I push blink on my mesmer, i blink instantly. When I hit decoy, I vanish instantly. When hit throw bolas on my warrior, I wind up a throw and throw it half a second later, when I hit bulls charge I get ready to charge and then charge a half second later. This kind of discrepency in fluidity between the classes is unacceptable.

Bravo, bravo! clapping.gif

Are you using the warhorn trait? If so, I try (ofc its hard in battle) to prioritize poison which converts to regen and vulnerability which converts to protection.

Also some people are confused about Torment and Quick breathing, you get 3 stacks of might if you convert Torment using quick breathing.

If you aren’t using Warhorn I’d still go for poison first just because its a huge hit to our healing which we already lack.

I loved my sentinel in SWTOR, a game where melee actually had a chance unlike GW2 PVP wheres its “AOE Ranged Condi Wars 2”

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Aneirin,

BG is now the only server in tier 1 that can muster their vaguard oceanic and sea forces to hit EU timing. Most of the forces in JQ and SOR are unable to do that. Prior to the arrival of IRON, WM was dominating EU time zone for almost 2 weeks straight. This might not seem like much but to play from 12am to 6am requires a whole different level of discipline from the organized guilds.

FW

Aneirin Cadwall.9126:

zepp.4109:

BG ticked 400 ppt against IRON + KISS. SoR is ticking 400ppt playing against Doors.

You basically just said that BG is an EU server. How did that happen?

LOL what is this post even supposed to mean?

SykkoB.9465:

soo bg has late sea and eu coverage for most of the match up and tick higher or as high as sor, But WHEN BG doesnt show up for w/e reason burn out or just busy doing other stuff every server should stop fighting and not go for ppt.

KK think im starting to get this

BG plzz make a list of rules so we can all follow them since u think we should all play by ur rules

as for hack accusations or exploiting plZZ report it to anet and message the officers of the guilds u see doing it, so we can keep it off the forums before it gets the thread locked

Are you serious? We all know HB and RK are part time guilds. They aren’t “burnt out”, they just don’t play as much as you.

Liquid.9672:

Kryyg.8576:

As much as I dislike SoR right now. Past 3 days have been BG doing this nonsense. You two servers need to go make your own tier. Yesterday, BG ticked almost 400 for 12 hours. It was silly.

Just for the sake of clarification, BG’s average PPT yesterday was 283, with one single tick north of 400 at about 11:00am server time.

Always nice to see someone get owned by straight facts, good job zend.

Kryyg.8576:

As much as I dislike SoR right now. Past 3 days have been BG doing this nonsense. You two servers need to go make your own tier. Yesterday, BG ticked almost 400 for 12 hours. It was silly.

LOL WUT

You do realize millennium shows us the statistics right?

PvDoor is hard.

In spvp/tpvp WARRIOR

magikfox.9658:

pot.6805:

LethalxKiller.3571:

pot.6805:

Score update. Keep pummeling them!

Hmm might I recommend a different armor dye to complement you’re weapons. But overall like the look. (maybe abyss with some green idk mess around a bit could hold some even sicker looks)

Thank you, I usually wear different dyes but I was doing the guild thing in that one. Also my char looks weird, must have taken the SS at the wrong time.

Also I wish I had Abyss or Black! I bought Celestial back when it was 4g, wish I had bought Abyss as well.

You could always go Midnight Ice. Although when using it on light armour it tends switch between blueish and green :/ Pretty sure anet just made dyes with the heavies in mind…

I laughed at you thinking me and oxide were the same person. Also what did I ever do to you?!?!

But yeah, probably hard to tell but I am wearing heavy armor in that pic. I’ll check out midnight ice. But a lot of dyes tend to look different on that armor since it is kind of Sylvari based.

LethalxKiller.3571:

pot.6805:

Score update. Keep pummeling them!

Hmm might I recommend a different armor dye to complement you’re weapons. But overall like the look. (maybe abyss with some green idk mess around a bit could hold some even sicker looks)

Thank you, I usually wear different dyes but I was doing the guild thing in that one. Also my char looks weird, must have taken the SS at the wrong time.

Also I wish I had Abyss or Black! I bought Celestial back when it was 4g, wish I had bought Abyss as well.

Velzer.1325:

This week’s matchup: SoR vs BG+JQ

Typical 2v1 accusations coming from SoR…

Score update. Keep pummeling them!

Yeah it needs more to it if it is gonna stay at this cooldown.

In all seriousness, lots of fun tonight!

Hoots.9564:

pot.6805:

At least GSCH and Tsym stayed on SoR BL for awhile after TW totally abandoned them.

lol those TW havoc groups, so nasty that even BG thinks we went on that BL in force.

So Indo leads havoc groups now? Man, he really fell off as a full map zerg commander.

At least GSCH and Tsym stayed on SoR BL for awhile after TW totally abandoned them.

Ahh so that is where TW went. Why did you guys leave SoR BL so many hours ago?

I miss the AoE immob on the old sword =(

Had some very fun fights in SoR BL!

I am playing around with a stunlock build (Hammer + Mace/Mace) I’ve been working on in spvp and I am trying to work Rampage into it since it had a CD reduction in the patch.

Rampage mechanics wise works decent if you hit 2, 3, 4, 5 with the proper timing and could be a decent addition to a stunlock/CC Hammer + Mace/Mace build if the CD was lower. But as Rampage is in its current state, I feel the cooldown is still WAY too long at 150s! It should be reduced to 90-100seconds.

Otherwise the skill needs another trick to it to justify 150s cooldown. Something like a better 1 attack on it that adds weakness in an AoE cleave or some kind of condi resistance.

Poplolita.2638:

Harbinger.8637:

I don’t have a problem with the new Necro, it’s just the amount of them that makes it insane. Like one or two, ya whatever not a big deal. But there’s like +4 on every team which makes it frustrating. I even played a tpvp earlier today three Necros on the other team, and most spvp matches look something like this.

I was in a match with 5 warrios.

Warriors are the worst class in spvp and are much more balanced so the comparison is a big fail.

Inb4 SoR damage control

Caedus.6571:

Kathy K.6812:

Jahn.7019:

MERC is pretty much 24/7. Without them, BG would be nothing.

Probably their best purchase to date.

Same thing could be said for SoR… Without IRON they wouldn’t be able to win.

So recruiting a, at most, 25 man EU guild made us win? That tells us alot about the quality of your late SEA/EU players.

Tell me, how many guilds servers have BG devoured again?

IRON is a 25man guild now? Hahahahah!

I gotta laugh at how people make coverage claims based on the weekend.

Yadeniel.9310:

l2p, necros are competitive now. This happens when there is a class that sucks hard since the release and get buffed 1 YEAR LATER, everyone is used for necros to be crap.

Must be nice. I wish Warriors got buffed to become competitive. We are still the worst class.

MagiKarp.8201:

Considering I never command Oceanic, touche?

I live in Western Australia which is GMT +8 which means I finish work at 5pm, home by 6/7 depending on meetings, often 8pm.

I commander SEA not Oceanic, just fyi

And you do it well. MERC rocks!

Kytana.5079:

It has been an awesome fun night tonight. Thank you to both BG and SOR on BG BL for keeping it fun and exciting. Shout out to all the guilds on both sides. There were too many to list and I would kinda feel bad if I left one out by accident.

/bow

Was very fun to fight WARD and other JQ friends tonight on BG BL!

Offski.4897:

gebrechen.5643:

Xinthai.6175:

gebrechen.5643:

Wait, SoR has another EU guild? That’s almost as funny as BG talking about they have no EU coverage.
I hate winning team joiners.

BG only has a small group of MERC that stay awake (10-15), RK (10-20), and then HB on a night or two. (15-30 themselves, but Smokee and Orc draw tons of pugs to their tags).

It’s really not that large of coverage in comparison to what SoR has.

Really? Don’t forget all those people that pull overtimes. I see them every evening on EU time and I see what happens when I lead a havoc. You have more people available for guarding a yak as we can put into a borderland.
Without our Asian or Sea pulling massive overtimes, we can’t even get a treb built.
So, I really don’t care if it’s “only” 60 people we face.
Sure, SoR is the new fotm server and they can send more numbers than you, but it’s not a great difference if you meet 50 people on the field or 100 when your own group is about 15-20.

Good luck to the new kid in town. All your yaks are belong to us. CU in 10 hours, hope you bring the bags.

Do you BG guys ever complain about your dominance in oceanic and Sea times…..nah did not think so. You are dominant in certain times, we have coverage in others.

Also the times last week when i saw bg and jq zergs standing next to one another not fighting was laughable, especially in EB. Seeing two sides either side of the bridge outside Langor with no intention of fighting each other last week was a bit embarrassingly low from you lot.

Basically if you are going to make agreements throughout a week to focus SoR then ofcourse we will need a way to combat this. Jq seem happy to be bg’s lil kitten, so be it.

Anyway Iron was distracted all last week and ignored the ppt game, we will be back on it this week, so looking forward to seeing how things turn out.

If AGG, RK, HB or any others would like a gvg, we obviously need the practice so pls whisper myself or wrex.

Pretty pathetic that SoRs EU coverage (IRON) admits they didn’t even try last week yet SoR still hardcore recruited a huge EU zerg guild (50-150 active wvwers daily) to move to SoR knowing that IRON wasn’t even trying last week. Shameful turn of events.

AngryTeddyRawr.3627:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJCqUGbmD4A

Fairly accurate regardless of your MMO of choice.

Fortunately I got over it long ago, and still enjoy the class regardless.

hahaha wow, so true. It is pretty kitten accurate, just like playing a warrior in GW2.

Looks like the drama addicts already started to invade this thread, abandon ship!

Deniara Devious.3948:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Play a game where you are almost guaranteed a win and see how fast you get burned out… Yes, it’s possible and happens A LOT in GW2 and many other games

How about play a game where you are guaranteed to lose and never get a fair chance to win? And see how fast you get a burn out.

These are the match ups Desolation is getting.

So the answer is to move to NA servers and pvdoor? Not sure what your point is.

Liquid.9672:

Well, hopefully certain players on SoR will stop lecturing BG now about turning away guilds for the sake of “balance”.

Haha good one.

Why are ranged and condi builds so much more dominant then melee builds? Trying to play a melee warrior build in this game with all the spammed aoe, condi and blinds is just an exercise in frustration.

Trying to play a melee warrior in this game is just insanely kitten right now.

Old fashioned score update
@ 9:30PM EST.

Go go JQ. Deliver the final blow!

Wolbryne.4037:

Your double teaming has reached level: pathetic.

Welcome to wvwvw. And keep pushing JQ!

Amazing fights all week!

SoR during NA EST and PST was also dropping 5 omega golems for every keep take they tried. More omegas in 1 day then we’ve seen in the past 2 months combined.

It wasn’t updating for me either

Topix.6974:

HB, you guys need to drop more blueprints, the massive amount you are dropping now isn’t working thats why you guys keep running away. So I would suggest dropping golems instead of flame rams.

You got trolled!

I set up a hotkey for aoe loot but still instinctively spammed F a million times a minute.

Did some games earlier, everyone was spamming blinds. It was just dumb.

Daecollo.9578:

This is what warriors needed from torment…

Remove useless Kick

Add:

Ball and Chain (Cooldown: 20)
Throw a massive chain at your target and pull them to you.
Damage: 292
3 Torment: 10 s (960 damage)
Combo Finisher: Physical Projectile
Range: 1,200

That would have been epic.