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Blind Faith in the Jade Emperor leads to this.
Indo killed his entire guild in one jump…
It is a cult afterall! :P
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HB WvWvW Highlights from Saturday June-22-2013
A night full of epic battles.
Once the night was over, HB had helped capped a T3 SM, helped save Blackgate garrison from TW / IRON, got to fight RG, and finally helped RK cap the 2 enemy Borderlands “Blackgate spawn” keeps that were both T3 and defended. The night ended with 3 hours of open field fights in Blackgate Borderlands. Here are some highlights. Thanks for all of the fights and special thanks to our allies on BG.
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After a busy night I’ve finished my vid of the Red Guard [RG] – Tempest Wolves [TW]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWczuh5qZFk
At least 10/11 fightsOr you can watch Chems twitch for the raw fights and much more content
http://www.twitch.tv/chemsorly/c/2466567Nice fights from a different play style oponent, Kudos!
Sick video, thanks for uploading the footage for us to enjoy. That was a very impressive victory.
I wanna level my guardian now because that GS/hammer build looks fun.
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Yup zones seem dead.
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RG, that was an example of utter domination. Was good to see you at work.
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Meh, adding a ICD to leg specialist is just bad. That is one of our best tools.
I disagree, ICD doesn’t matter at all for Leg specialist before. All cripple skills have a longer cooldown than the ICD.
The ICD is there so that Hamstring(Placed in Third chain of auto-attack) won’t perma immobilize enemies.
Yes an ICD does matter before. Are you an experienced warrior? I can’t immob, then weapon swap and immob again. I can’t use bladetrail and immob twice. Maybe you don’t take advantage of that but many people do.
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Live updates – http://mos.millenium.org/na
Have fun owning each other.
May the server with the best coverage win.
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I agree with CollegeDowntime, warriors have some great trait they just require lvl 30 points to obtain which makes the overall stats go to waste! atm they lack not only dmg, but mobility, and defense. with that being said ofc you can create a warrior with absurd amount of dmg! but you will die in less that 15sec in Tournaments. so if you want a warrior who can afflict a fair amount of dmg you need to sacrifice your survivability. ( THIS IS NOT THE CASE WITH GUARDIANS! ) atm guardians does alot more dmg than warriors, with a HUGE amount of survivability, and thats even if the warrior goes full dps!!! what i think needs to be done is do make the physical Utility skills unblockable! yes you heard right, make them unblockable not undodgeable though! the only thing warriors are good for in Tpvp atm is knocking ppl down. And thats really not good at all! taking in consideration that ppl dodge block and blind you ALL the time AND they use Stability. If i had to Remake something about the warrior i would go back the how they used to be!!! ( not that they had unblockable physical utility skills :P ) btw nerf rangers "my pet can heal me underwater even though it’s dead bug ) and make the cd longer on thief’s evade attack underwater!!! for christ sake
Currently warriors have some of the most mobility and THE most damage in the entire game. Their CC is nothing to laugh about either. It’s also worth mentioning they have the highest base stats in the game with both the highest base armor and highest base health.
That said they suck. It’s just true. They are gods against terrible players who don’t know the difference between rush and bull’s rush, but the second you enter a high end tourney with both groups voip’d you’ll need an entire team built around your damage just to do anything.
Sure it’s kittening AWESOME when you go into a team fight and kill three dudes in under five seconds, but that’s just how warriors are. It’kitten or miss, you either hit a home run or you fall on your kitten .
Of all the balance patches that have occured I’m most worried about this one because it has the biggest chance of just being a major kitten show with warriors one shotting kids everywhere.. The only thing that gives me hope is boon hate.
Ostrich here’s the thing most non warrior players don’t understand (not saying you don’t know the warrior) people say we have the most movement skills, yet they don’t realize that hey are ALL (minus savage leap) completely Annihilated by cripple and chill and now this new condition.
My 40 second utility skill (Bull Rush) is completely shut down by some class’s auto attack (their sword spams cripple). Making us completely kited at ease. These skills are thrown into almost every weapon set and are ALWAYS present in fights.
Mesmers, and guardians have been ridiculous since the beginning of the game, it’s time for warriors to have some spotlight. Of course people are afraid of warriors getting buffed. It’s laughable that they said it is going to be a bad thing, when in Reality kitten that, they are just afraid to actually have to fight a warrior and not just get a free kill by spamming cripples and chills and drinking coffee.
Screw that we NEED our time to be feared by others. We don’t have invulnerable builds (engie bunker, no offense) we have 0 options ever since they have GUTTED us by destroying frenzy.
Everyone is afraid that they will actually have to fight a deadly warrior, you guys make me sick. We haven’t been feared since launch while Every other class (minus necros) have had their time to destroy.
Today I went afk and my tourney popped while I was on my warrior. I proceeded to signet, run straight to graveyard and killed 3 people in one hundred blades. I was running 20 0 20 0 30 with longbow/GS, defensive as hell and gives condi clear just in case the leaked notes are correct.
It’s not that I’m “afraid” of fighting a warrior, I’d be glad to see warriors come around again. It would be pretty refreshing. The only problem is that I’d prefer to not have them go from complete kitten to GODS with a few changes.
So you killed 3 stationary targets, congrats? You are still fear mongering about warriors which you seem to do in just about every post you make related to the warrior.
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Anyone know what “Aftercast” is?
Stuck in an animation after you hit the ability.
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3 way faction is supposed to stop the top server from overwhelming the other two. Except that NEVER HAPPENS, it is always a double team on the 2nd server or the 3rd server.
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Black Talons weekly recap video. Great fights this week.
Sweet video, I remember some of those fights very well and loved seeing the HB+BT fights.
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This discussion confuses me. They aren’t taking AWAY anything from Weakness so how could it possibly fail? It may not be meta shifting but it’ll certainly help those classes that had it a lot more than it previously had.
Take your minuta somewhere else.
A warrior is a direct damage class, we don’t have viable condi builds. Warriors such as myself are understandably worried after seeing there is a new condi Torment which will make kiting a warrior even easier (it hurts us when we move and it is already ez mode to kite warriors before Torment) and now Weakness will hurt our damage which is our only saving grace.
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The change is a must have!
As a warrior, once I’ve closed in on my enemy through all his roots, cripples, immob, stealths and teleports, ran through all the endless AoE fields which I can hardly circumvent saturating me in even more conditions (including the new torment probably) and finally manage to land some hits through aegis’, evades & protections – it should be obvious that I am going to need my crit rate decimating by weakness. Otherwise, we’re just going to remain OP and overplayed in tPvP.
As a die hard warrior, I lol’d!
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Warriors! Who else would continue to play a class that has been at the bottom of the barrel for so long?
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Meh, adding a ICD to leg specialist is just bad. That is one of our best tools.
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hi i dont mean to be rude, but so what ur from teir 1?, teir 1 is no skill what so ever, go tank and press 1 in the blob train, i hate teir 1, oh one more thing get ur head out of ur back side.
but i like your spvp build, been trying it out, good but no damage, thiefs just own everything and all there is range, some fun tho. what build do i need to face a 60+ blob in wvw thx my guild are about 20+ in wvw. thanks.
Your writing style makes my head hurt. As for WvW, if all you do is run and press 1, you aren’t playing correctly. The skill of zerg fighting is knowing when to engage, how far to push, and having a plan to get back out. The best zergs are typically dominated by one guild who have a variety of supporting builds. They are actually quite coordinated with their skill and gear choices.
Yeah okay, that is a lot of pretty words to disguise the fact that zerging is pressing 1, spamming AoEs and CC and spamming necro wells/marks.
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Yay more ranged buffs. More necro buffs, as if zergs aren’t already 60% necros now.
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Can’t touch the king, baby!
…Which one is pot in SoRbl? Must stabby
Gotta buy me dinner first..
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epic fights on sor bl
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And 3 wild zerglings appear.
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SoR clearly still has the best EU coverage by a mile.
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Imaginary medals, cool!
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Dragon Bash wasn’t even out till Tuesday and BG was already easily beating JQ. Old news is old news.
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Thanks for all of the bags SoR. You tried to take a paper tower and lost your T3 waypointed bay in the process to JQ. Thanks for the coordination JQ, lets do it again <3
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Guilds like TW, TWL Choo, IRON, TYSM have members that transfered parts of their guilds to JQ and been taking up spaces in WvW just to have Guild vs Guild. They are ruining the Que’s for those who actually care to WvW. I doubt anything will be done but I’d like to pass the info out to the rest of SoR and JQ in why you are having longer que times.
Pretty sure the 3200 gems I purchased to transfer over to JQ (and back) temporarily is perfectly acceptable to Anet.
Roughly $500 in gems for the lot of us to venture across.
Yes, I’m sure Anet is fine with us.You guys didn’t convert gold to gems? Noobs =p
Some of us did.
I get about 40 hours not at work a week, so my free time is valuable. Too valuable for boring dungeon runsBut even the gems we buy with gold represent SOMEBODYS cash.
Yeah I hear you on the dungeons part, they are boring. I farmed TA around launch to get the armor look I wanted and haven’t been back since. I’d rather kill people in WvW or spvp.
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Guilds like TW, TWL Choo, IRON, TYSM have members that transfered parts of their guilds to JQ and been taking up spaces in WvW just to have Guild vs Guild. They are ruining the Que’s for those who actually care to WvW. I doubt anything will be done but I’d like to pass the info out to the rest of SoR and JQ in why you are having longer que times.
Pretty sure the 3200 gems I purchased to transfer over to JQ (and back) temporarily is perfectly acceptable to Anet.
Roughly $500 in gems for the lot of us to venture across.
Yes, I’m sure Anet is fine with us.
You guys didn’t convert gold to gems? Noobs =p
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Lol you quoted a post I didn’t even make in this thread. Warms my heart to see how much you care and how much you follow me around.
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This thread is full of win.
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It got awful quiet again.
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A hilarious note was the BG group that tried to just break up a GvG. Thanks for the free bags BG.
It was hilarious indeed a good way to end the night
, you are very welcome and sorry that you couldn’t make up for the bags,wexp and laughs that you guys gave us on the earlier GvG wipes though, we will be more kind next time :b
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The incident im referring to happend after. We were in a different camp
Sorry but camps are fair game.
Ya, no problem, I understand you guys were just giving us some bags back, another gesture appreciated.
Wasn’t there. But if you are having a gvg at a camp, that is your own fault. Camps are fair game.
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A hilarious note was the BG group that tried to just break up a GvG. Thanks for the free bags BG.
It was hilarious indeed a good way to end the night
, you are very welcome and sorry that you couldn’t make up for the bags,wexp and laughs that you guys gave us on the earlier GvG wipes though, we will be more kind next time :b
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The incident im referring to happend after. We were in a different camp
Sorry but camps are fair game.
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lol look at how mad they are!
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Good job pwning all day BG and never giving up.
9:30 PM EST
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Good job BG, way to kick kitten all day.
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Sucks that the full map SoR zerg left JQ BL after getting wiped one time at a tower, they went insta outmanned and hopped borders. JQ put up much more of a fight.
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I hope this newly revitalized BG gets matched up with SOR next week to see what type of coverage the fairweathers can bring you guys.
I hope we get matched up against SOR WITHOUT JQ. Its clear now that JQ without SOR isn’t close to BG score wise (most of the rating we have gained is from them, NOT from DB) because last week the scores were almost dead even, and now we are decimating them.
I think there will be a similar effect if we face SOR without JQ.
It’s hard for me to know to make of this to be honest, other than the possibility that SoR tends to focus BG more than JQ. That can’t be the whole story though. Still, if it’s not JQ, then who? I’m not so sure the end result would change with a different 3rd server. I would be pretty interested in seeing how SoR v BG v TC would play out though.
I think when it is BG/JQ/SoR BG get sandwiched time zone wise. Our strength vs JQ (EU and NA) got cancelled by SoR while our strength against SoR (SEA) got canceled by JQ. It would be interesting how the fight goes against SoR without JQ indeed:)
Actually, just for the record was mostly the other way around for various reasons JQ SEA would focus SoR more than BG. Especially with Waha and Indo keep challenging each other. We can make all kinds of assumptions but the truth is SoR beat BG for 5 weeks in a row fair and square without anybody’s help.
Actually for the record, that is completely untrue. Ask JQs SEA yourselves https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Tier-1-JQ-BG-SoR-5-31/page/11#post2160480 they enjoyed fighting BG more and so focused us 99% of the time. The one time you got focused by JQ and BG during SEA we didn’t hear the end of it on the forums from SoR about how we 2’v1’d your garri.
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It at least should be “Throw Earth”. You throw a huge chunk of Earth and it is an aoe knockdown.
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Anyways, I’m not trying to argue over semantics here, but I wanted to point out that I don’t believe for one minute that SoR’s surge in score performance was all due to one factor. There was definitely a morale/motivation/fairweather effect, like there is for all servers.
Sure, that happens to some extent no matter what server you are on and it would be foolish to think otherwise. I was just pointing out the elephant in the room to you. When NA can spend 2-3-4-5 hours racking up PPT instead of trying to simply get back to even footing (which on some nights took the entire night if it happened at all), everything else you mentioned follows…..
Not sure where the disconnect with that was to be honest.
We had one change to our server that occurred that made the difference between BG beating us by 60k and us beating BG by 60k ….and it wasn’t fair weather players. Those trickled in after the fact.
You just admitted IRON carried SoR to number 1. They were the “one change”.
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Um this glicko issue has been an issue for at least 6 months now and I’ve been calling it out as kitten for that long. SoR isn’t the first one to deal with losing rating by winning. You didn’t seem to care when it wasn’t effecting you, in fact you made fun of other servers for not “playing glicko correctly”. Learn to play glicko correctly.
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No, I am not really. I do like the reward chests at least, it was a good start.
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“Like a dog without its master.” said the wise man.
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why is all BG in this thread anyway??
don’t they have their own thread. missing us already?
And still funnier after knowing that you yourself posted in the BG/JQ/DB thread.
Funniest part for sure.
It’s a free country. People can post where they want, especially when those posts are on topic.
You mean the topic of Blackgate the massive blackhole server which consumes and annihilates guilds and is the pit of despair consuming players by the score, doomed to wander hopelessly in the desolate wasteland of obscurity versus the Sanctum of Rall the shining beacon of strength and courage whose very presence infuses people with hope and joy? You mean that topic?
Was that over the top? I can never tell.
Poe’s Law.
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I’m trying to think of how many different forum warriors (hundreds) have claimed BG was either dead, dying, on life support, doomed, going back to t2/t3/t4 etc etc!
We still here…get used to it!
you’re only still there because of the current zerg meta once that’s gone you guys have nothing
Yea, where has this zerg come from I wonder? Quite a surprise when TW came over and found queued BG zergs on every map. Don’t get me wrong, queued BL’s produce the most bags, but this makes me wonder if BG can keep a force like that when SoR comes back to town.
Fairweather players, just like all those guilds on SoR who transferred there and then disappeared for 4 months only to come back when IRON showed up.
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True story…
BG and SoR are bitter exes who hate each other but secretly love each other still in some weird way.
And if you deny it, you are in fact just confirming it!
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I’m trying to think of how many different forum warriors (hundreds) have claimed BG was either dead, dying, on life support, doomed, going back to t2/t3/t4 etc etc!
We still here…get used to it!
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50 people, 3 sup cats, 2sup acs and 2 sup balsitas all it took for bg to take klov from 8 people LMFAO, once zergs arnt as effective bg will be t4 at best
Hes right yo. Next time BG can you have 42 people respawn and wait till the tower is taken? kkthanks
On it. I’ll be next to the repair vendor picking my nose. Maybe if I have time I’ll practice pressing #1 and my CC skill buttons.
SPAM 1 KEY HARDER BRO!
If you press it harder, it does more damage! The more you know!
read it on the internets, must be true!
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50 people, 3 sup cats, 2sup acs and 2 sup balsitas all it took for bg to take klov from 8 people LMFAO, once zergs arnt as effective bg will be t4 at best
Hes right yo. Next time BG can you have 42 people respawn and wait till the tower is taken? kkthanks
On it. I’ll be next to the repair vendor picking my nose. Maybe if I have time I’ll practice pressing #1 and my CC skill buttons.
SPAM 1 KEY HARDER BRO!
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why is all BG in this thread anyway??
don’t they have their own thread. missing us already?
This is hilarious after having 20 SoR posters in the BG/JQ/DB thread all week. And even more funny after how many SoR transferred to JQ to be with BG. And still funnier after knowing that you yourself posted in the BG/JQ/DB thread.
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They got a SEA guild from KN, XF or whatever. And now with HB making a comeback, they will have just as much EURO if not more EURO than SoR. BT and VK also finished transferring over.
It’s anyone’s game, BG definitely has the population edge over anyone else though.
HB is not “back” and definitely not enough to outnumber IRON. You don’t even play on BG, stop making claims about what EU coverage we have.
I don’t think BGs population disadvantage is as big as BG has been making it out to be in the past month(s). I’ve seen what BG has done this week with their numbers. They are a lot closer (if not even equal) to SoR than they would care to admit.
Perhaps it is the fact they are winning which pulls more of their fair-weather players into the matchup, I’m not sure. But the playerbase is there.
Yeah, let us use unbalanced matchups to make claims about servers populations! That makes total sense! And yes, lots of fair weather players out. But that is how WvW works.
I’m not looking at the score and making an assumption. I’m looking at the number of players you are putting into the BLs and EB. Hopefully those individuals don’t get so “discouraged” so easily in the future matchups when things aren’t going their way.
You do realize why they are called fairweathers right?
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