Guild Wars 2

The “Full” servers weren’t having difficulty fielding numbers just 1.5 weeks ago….

When the going gets tough, the “Full” servers just keep making new excuses….

The “Full” servers weren’t having difficulty fielding numbers just 1.5 weeks ago….

When the going gets tough, the “Full” servers just keep making new excuses….

8:45pm Central timezone, upon world select, the below 3 servers are the only ones all at FULL status. Yep, BG & JQ quit for the 2nd week in a row. The forum warriors of those servers talked the talk but when their servers needed them most during prime times of their server locale, they couldn’t walk the walk.

Black Gate..status FULL
Jade Quarry..status FULL
Tarnicshed Coast..status FULL

Recent developer post by Devon stated Anet is aware of said issues and are making changes to the wvw ranking system. Let’s see what they have up their sleeves in the coming weeks.

Renny.6571:

Update. I’m assuming the lack of red on green bl and vice versa is because blue bl is shaped in a way that they’re naturally 2v1’d or some kitten.

hehhe. Most everyone on Team Speak, SOR is avoiding JQ BL like the plague. Regardless of timezones, peep’s are DC’ing like crazy over there.

yah JQ BL is definitely borked. I zoned in started to run to supply and within 30 secs immediately dc’ed. That BL needs a restart, ;P

Future transfers (assuming they keep up with Anet patch notes and developer posts) will probably sit idle for a bit until they see what Anet has in store for the new ranking system.

From the early hints, I doubt the same 3 servers per tier will face off against each other for weeks / months on end which should bode well to keep the threads semi positive as it will diminish the long term bad blood that can reside amongst servers with the present glicko system.

Zhrek.9781:

oxide.8324:

Fixeon.5076:

Funny… Wasn’t it just a few weeks a go Merc and WM were playing during EU time to take advantage of the lack of EU coverage in T1 NA? Iron comes to SoR and gives them competition and now SoR is stacked and is breaking t1. I am sorry BG, you now have to put in effort for your PPT and it is not just handed to you on a silver platter by the PvD gods.

Both of BG’s recent wins were from mid-late week comebacks and almost entirely due to the overtime by Merc/WM/etc (look at the graphs: Week 17, Week 18). Oceanic/SEA guilds playing into EU to PvD is not sustainable in the long term and SoR’s EU recruitment was a knee-jerk reaction to this which has damaged the balance of T1 more than it has actually helped.

With SoR’s first win they were on top from start to finish (Week 19) and this week is starting to look like it will be no different (Week 20), but we shall see. SoR should have recruited Oceanic/SEA guilds to defend their NA’s work and remain competitive during those timezones instead of taking the easy road by recruiting EU guilds to PvD for ~8 hrs a day, every day.

Fixeon.5076:

But I for one think that for once T1 is fairly balanced. Iron fields around 30-40 people + rallians as I understand it. Merc/WM easily have 30-40 + pugs. JQ might have a bit of a weak point in EU with just 20-30 RK + quarians (i think that is what you call your pug force?) But honestly that sounds fairly balanced to me. Everything else is the same it was 2-3 weeks ago when BG was in 1st.

How is that balanced? WM is a SEA guild and can only manage push into EU time 1-2 days a week at most (and only if gaining the lead is achievable). IRON on the other hand is EU and play during that time every day.

Fixeon.5076:

As for the rest of you complaining about SoR’s NA coverage. I can’t help but laugh. Tell me something. How does it feel to have paper walls and gates while everything we have is t3? That is what we have had to deal with every single day.

Oh poor you, that’s what JQ and BG’s Oceanic/SEA players had to put up with every day as well.

My GOD SOR, wtf recruiting guilds? Only BG is allowed to do that. SOR has lost many guilds to BG, but HEY the 1 they got makes everything unbalanced, too funny

Tears from posters like Oxide and Magic are a great read here. Just weeks prior BG was spouting off all the guilds they claimed in Meow, Rise, WM, etc. etc. They had 6 guilds join them and made sure everyone at T1 knew it. None of them were too concerned about balance then.

Magic even had a pic he shared from a past T1 match of BG camping SOR garrison with the title “Farming SOR Garrison in our S-L-E-E-P”

Now these guys are the poster child for “T1 balance” ;D

SykkoB.9465:

u know im pretty level headed and want the best for all three servers but wuts get me about u magic is the fact it was ok for ur server to tic for 300-500 during sea and oceanic against sor and we had to flip everything from t3 to t1 and loose everything during the night.. but now that’s its ur turn to dig deep as a server u call it unfair and complain about off hour coverage

for thos on bg and jq who fight hard everyday and show up this isn’t against u but to the fair weather ppl its time to dig deep and rally around ur commanders instead of tossing ur hands up and saying o we don’t have the numbers I quit

sor has done this for months we didn’t have the greatest coverage yet everyday we logged in and fought we rallied around r na and r off hour coverage we did have

Look up Magic’s post history. Some of that stuff he spouted off back in the day, just 2 weeks ago prior to SOR winning their first gold is even more funny now that he’s all of a sudden concerned about balance and recruiting. ’

When BG was ticking 500ppt he routinely snapped shots and posted on the T1 forums. He didn’t seem too concerned about balance back in those days, haha.

MagiKarp.8201:

scootshoot.6583:

MagiKarp.8201:

scootshoot.6583:

@MagiKarp, none of this will matter in a few weeks anyways as it sounds like Anet’s (developer post) new ranking system will ensure new opponents (rotations) quicker over their present glicko system.

Could of used that months ago >.v

Really? A month ago you were spouting off how great your server was…heh

Blackgate is an amazing server, pulls of some amazing things such as that win in March on the last day.

My comment was regarding the current T1 meta of; Recruit recruit recruit, if we had that system months ago, the servers might all be relatively more balanced because people wouldn’t have to transfer to the top 3 in order to enjoy tier one, creating more competition between servers instead of the current meta of stack wars.

You have so much material in your posting history to counter this, it’s not even funny nor worth repeating.

MagiKarp.8201:

scootshoot.6583:

@MagiKarp, none of this will matter in a few weeks anyways as it sounds like Anet’s (developer post) new ranking system will ensure new opponents (rotations) quicker over their present glicko system.

Could of used that months ago >.v

Really? A month ago you were spouting off how great your server was…heh

@MagiKarp, none of this will matter in a few weeks anyways as it sounds like Anet’s (developer post) new ranking system will ensure new opponents (rotations) quicker over their present glicko system.

phabby.8945:

Warlord.9074:

Sleepyy.1598:

Kryyg.8576:

Does anyone else feel like SoR should break up their NA?

It’s getting tiring now.

Go into one BL you hit CHOO.
Go to another BL you hit FEAR.
Go into another BL you hit TSYM.
Try BL #4 and you get TW.

That’s not even including all the other WvW guilds that they have.

Why should they break up?

Ty btw.

We play on NA servers. We have NA guilds. Your a NA server with not many NA guilds that relies on non NA coverage why should that be our problem. The way I see it we are the normal server here.

your NA is stacked to the hilt………..

You guys recent transfers? It’s always been this way in terms of SOR wvw guilds being active during NA prime hours.

Think of it this way, considering SOR, JQ, and BG are ALL North American servers, it makes sense the vast majority of the populace will be logged on during NA prime time hours, no? This was shown in recent screenshots of server status and it showed you guys to be “Full” which means you have lots of players on during your NA hours. Find a well respected commander or 2 and get them to rally the troops!

Doomdesire.9365:

Why are people acting as if SoR’s NA is “stacked” now? It’s always been like that. Nobody complained about it when BG was winning, nor JQ. It’s more like JQ/BG seems to be getting demoralized + we don’t lose everything overnight. Choo, FEAR, TW have been here from the start. Tysm joined quite a while ago in T1. These complaints are literally coming out of nowhere….

Bingo!

salluks.6017:

Poxheart.2845:

I dunno what was going on, but about an hour ago the lag on JQ BL is unplayable. Lots of people (myself included) were getting DC’d anytime there was a big fight.

yea its unbelivable in JQ bl.

I blame this….
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-May-14-2013

Optimizations
•We’re rolling out our first set of optimizations. This is the first in many steps involved in helping resolve issues with “skill lag.” Some players will experience a slight improvement in skill lag issues with large groups of players, while some players may also experience a slight raise in their FPS.

VOLKON.1290:

Score update for your morning coffee!

Nice job recovering, JQ! ^.^

DevonCarver.5370:

Scootus.3251:

DevonCarver.5370:

I don’t want to completely ruin the surprise but you should hear something big from us in the coming weeks about this very topic.

You forgot to tell them to ask again next month to hear an even more obscure answer.

D’oh! You caught me there. Let me spruce it up some. In the coming weeks, nay months, you’ll see many changes to WvW. We should have something to announce regarding the matchmaking in the coming weeks. If you aren’t happy with those changes, I’ll be more surprised than the Imperial Japanese Army was by Marshal Georgy Zhukov at the battle of Nomonhan. I think that fits the criteria. Sort of.

Runs to google Nomonhan ^.^

BlackLotus.8349:

I mostly want to see the ascended gear that they are working on and new maps. WvW is my favorite part of the game but it does get stale.

Read the developer “hints”….

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Plans-to-address-the-failing-ranking-system

Odaman.8359:

I know a few servers are getting transfers, but wvw population has decreased dramatically from my perspective. Things slow down in summer, I know, but I can’t help but think that some of the changes pushed even more people away. The sad part is Anet thinks they’re going in the right direction. How much longer do you think wvw will have anywhere near acceptable numbers?

You sound burnt out, when’s last time you took a break?

One time charge game with no monthly fee which is equivalent to a game like Mass Effect 3 that I bought on release (had lots of fun btw) but has long been shelved. GW2 regardless of faults is still a lot of fun (for me anyways ^.^) as the developers continue to support and add content to the game.

sostronk.8167:

scootshoot.6583:

Not lookin good. JQ has always had a strong reset night / weekend force and as such if they get buried going into Monday their server will be demoralized and will turn into a 2 horse race early.

Thats not true at all. The leader of the weekend has changed regularly. The problem is, BG is already playing for second.

Am speaking about staying competitive as most weekends are a tossup and coverage only comes into play during the 5 day school/work week. JQ was ticking at 90ppt a hour ago which is not a good sign this early goin.

Hope you guys recover!

Not lookin good. JQ has always had a strong reset night / weekend force and as such if they get buried going into Monday their server will be demoralized and will turn into a 2 horse race early.

Aurust.8961:

Wanted to give a shout out to LUN and our Brazilian crew, that has been with SOR since we fought Darkhaven oh soooo long ago.

I work off hours and ran with LUN quite a few times. It was common for us to be heavily outmanned during those hours and wiped many times when a huge train of opposing forces closed in on us. Never once did I hear a LUN commander or any of their members bicker or point fingers nor did they rage quit and leave the map.

/respect LUN

Pixels.6532:

Just wanted to say thanks to all the servers we faced on the long road to a T1 win. Especially to BG and SoS (back when…). I think character is revealed in adversity and no two severs showed us quite so much adversity as BG and SoS. Thanks.

Thanks to our Oceanic and Asian brothers and sisters for sticking it out day after day, out-manned & out-gunned but never out-played.

Thanks to our Euro crew, esp. our new friends for being the catalyst to take what our O/A crew gave us and build on it.

And thanks to our NA for your quality and perseverance, to the guilds that were here from day 1 and the ones that transferred in when we were stuck in the lower tiers… You’re the glue that holds the server together.

Finally, thanks to GSCH and Roger Rall. I don’t know what type of man it takes to get thousands of people petitioning a company to name a server after you, I can only hope we all aspire to such quality.

I’m proud to have been part (a very, very small part) of this.

/salute

http://wildboarinn.net/2012/07/18/my-gw2-home-sanctum-of-rall/

gebrechen.5643:

scootshoot.6583:

fade.8603:

I wonder what happens when JQ meets DB…

One way to find out! SOR and JQ needs to double team BG for the next couple weeks to get DB to replace them! ;D

I prefer having BG in T1 instead of Dragonbandwagon. BG earned being up there and all DB does is talking right now.

It was a joke man, notice the smiley

fade.8603:

I wonder what happens when JQ meets DB…

One way to find out! SOR and JQ needs to double team BG for the next couple weeks to get DB to replace them! ;D

nOCter.4263:

BloodRavenz.6084:

Niim.9260:

VOLKON.1290:

Niim.9260:

Feel bad for DB All these mediocre transfer guilds are really reducing the servers overall skill level.

Any guilds on DB who may be willing to step it up with an amazing group in JQ are more than welcome to explore the possibilities. I had a couple hours on JQBL last night with EMP and some others, and it was an amazingly good time holding a paper garrison from numbers twice or three times our size. It’s starting to feel again like it should. I logged off smiling and would be quite happy to share that experience with other guilds looking for real T1 combat.

According to RE they were the best of EMP, and since they are rather mediocre, how would transferring to JQ help?

No offense boss, and i’m not trying to start more drama. But as a commander on JQ i’ll take the current version of EMP then what it was before their so called “best” went to DB. The ones who decided to stay and remain with us on JQ are a great group of pvpers.

At least now i can count on EMP players and commanders to not rage quit the map when things go bad like noodles had a reputation for.

I do know that TW is always harping about the lack of loot they get now though. That in itself should be telling at the quality of players you all got in RE

Omen, you have seen yourself s how the JQ community treats you when you leave, not a single ounce of respect for exi & omen who pushes every single day keeping JQ ppt up..

Drama much? Only sounded like 1 or 2 JQ posters to me. Just remember, only a small pct of players post here, vast majority are playing the game.

Agreed with Hoots. The major SOR guilds and players who have been on this server since the beginning and been active participants to wvw through thick and thin has been tame compared to most.

Just look at the post history of some of the recent chest thumpers. Not naming names (you know who you are) but a few of these rallians have never posted anything WvW related in months…but yet their post count has gone up 20fold just this week in regards to this topic. Just ignore the latter, they are most likely excited with the win but when / if we have an off week expect their post counts to die down, ;D

I died to a thief! Must run to Forums!!

Israel.7056:

I just want to say that I think SoR as a server has worked really hard this week and if you guys win I think it will be well deserved. I’m not trying to take anything away from what SoR has accomplished and even though I’m naturally disappointed that BG isn’t having a great week I actually think this week has been a lot of fun pvp-wise. I’ve definitely had a lot of fun fights when I’ve gone into WvW. I’m not trying to inject negativity into the thread I’m just saying that I find some of the rhetoric a little tiresome.

TY for the kind words…

I think SOR was the lowest ranked server of all three to rise this far. Somehow with just one coverage that happened to be during primetime NA hours we have managed to stay at T1 for this long. This in itself was a huge accomplishment and that persistence is starting to pay off as we slowly added quality guilds to our ranks.

Nightcrawler.3219:

I’m not sure how everyone keeps saying the PVE stuff is keeping BG down. Normally when PVE content comes out BG usually ticks higher. Its more of an effect of SoR having move Euro coverage. It also seems there is a lot more ppl for SoR doing wvw because of this moral boast. This is what I think…

Correct. The morale boost happens for every server. SOR does have hardcore wvw guilds but we also have our share of predominantly PVE guilds and players. I have seen serveral pve guilds playing wvw this week and that’s expected and hope they are having fun.

If someone is that desperate to kill my thief for 15 badges + karma, so be it.

Alexa deStrange.8612:

I feel need to post this, as I am starting to see a fair few of questionable commanders roaming around .

and you have the choice to stop following them?

Esoteric.5490:

If you’re a good commander, people will follow you. If you are a bad commander, people will learn to not. Please use the search feature and recognize that there are HUNDREDS of threads just like this one that have resulted in ANet not changing a thing because the current system is fine.

Exactly. Commander tag is but a cosmetic and each of them earn their merits through actions on the battlefield.

Working as intended, no Anet intervention needed….

Manen.7253:

But both BG and Vizunah should still already have enough Rating to stay Green next week.

You looking at the right column? Besides it’s way tooo early to worry about all that. It’s not even Wednesday.

http://mos.millenium.org/#NA

urek mazino.4026:

The weekly Great BG Push score update

Yep. They pushed hard last week as well. BG has a strong presence early morning (NA timezone) hours that starts their big push mid week. They were able to tick 300+ for 6 straight hours.

Kudos to the outmanned SOR squads who logs during those times…without you they’d be hitting 500+ ppt like they did last week when the majority of you guys took a well deserved break.

Aarean.5398:

I know how annoying it is getting a 1v1 interrupted. Were you walking all over the war btw? I play war and it seems im glad to run into warriors. So simple to beat them

Warriors aren’t the greatest 1 v 1 class, everyone knows this. However a front line zerg Hammer Warrior brings a lot to the table…..

paper > rock > scissors. ……

BG making their big midweek push. Rest of the week should be interesting.

Good luck to all!

Aarean.5398:

covenn.7165:

Aarean.5398:

Why are guilds leaving or in rumor of leaving jq. Theres not balance issue anymore. Jq is the weakest of t1 and any guild leaving it is just avoiding losing. Anyone else not seeing the score trend?

Score trend or not, it is just a phase. Before moving to SoR last year, I was on JQ initially…. and I know for a fact that the server is solid. They will be back kicking on teeth in no time.

The “jq is still pveing” reason grows invalid very fast. If there isnt any organized guilds heading to jq then i believe dragonbrand will slip up to t1 in weeks.

DB has a long ways to go. As it stands now, they will be stuck at T2 for months….

http://mos.millenium.org/#NA

hplee.2839:

score update, end of SEA (taipei time 1:44 am)

SoR pretty much neutralize JQ’s SEA advantage.

Least for one day. Still early in the week.

What every server benefits from (assuming the score favors them) is the usual PVE players which there are a ton more of will join the fray thereby helping with coverage. SOR am sure has quite a bit of pve people who typically don’t wvw being active participants this week and that is a good thing.

Tarin Twisted.4183:

Errmahgerd….I cannot wait for the drama in this thread to hit full kitten this week.
.

Actually compared to past MMO pvp forums, cough WOW, these threads overall is a pretty positive vibe in terms of sportsmanship. All one has to do is ignore the 2v1 and zerg balling troll responses…..

LethalxKiller.3571:

Im waiting to see if SoR can hold first this week, which would be interesting if we had a new #1 every week in t1. It will be between the 3 current servers but would still be awesome and competitive.

That would be very cool. This is what we all should want in T1.

That said, in a few hours is when BG had the numbers last week in a particular timeslot ticking close to 450-500ppt for hours on end which they utililized to full advantage to take away the 10k lead JQ held going into Monday. That key timeslot is approaching. Will SOR / JQ have sufficient forces to prevent this from happening another week? We’ll soon find out!

Mike.5091:

Yeah, but why buy a new Computer for one game?
.

Build your own, much cheaper.

Pre built ones are garbage.

Yep, WvW is a different animal.

Picture this, a 40 on 40 mass of players attack one another. Each character has different animations and are spamming abilities left and right, during this chaos your poor little CPU is required to take all this information and distribute it on your end, all in real time.

I upgraded my cpu, motherboard, memory recently and it’s made a huge difference in zerg battles. Had my first real stress test over the weekend when a huge mass of players met in SM, I watched as the majority of the opposing mass of players literally stood still (no doubt lagging and struggling with their <10 fps) while I was able to rush right past them, ;D

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

All those getting stuck on arrow carts or other siege, have you tried to swap weapons? That is how I’ve gotten off mine when I otherwise cannot. I haven’t had to waypoint. Just wondering.

Yes, swapping weapons didn’t do nothing, some do work though but not all. The AC’s that are suspended in mid air will crazy glue you for good.

stuck arrow carts, only way for freedom is to use a wp

taking damage jumping down from structures only to see the animation twice

present ruleset for refreshing sieges is a lazy idea by developers to reduce objects in wvw

vluhd.7562:

scootshoot.6583:

Liquid.9672:

Omg it’s only Sunday and this discussion is actually taking place. There’s no hope for some folks I swear.

Agreed. JQ lost a 10k+ ppt advantage going into the school/work week last round…..

No ones going to be able to tick 400++ ppt for hours on end during the weekends when players are staying up late to play. Work/School week however is a different animal…everyone in Tier 1 should know this by now, haha.

This is exactly how we on Blackgate have won the past few weeks. We let JQ go nuts on the weekend, and during the week we slowly get point advantage.
Matches are not decided on the weekend, they’re decided Monday-Thursday.

It’s always been this way, not just for BG. 5 day work/school week > 2 day weekend. As everyone SHOULD know by now, coverage game don’t play out until the weekdays come.

Liquid.9672:

Omg it’s only Sunday and this discussion is actually taking place. There’s no hope for some folks I swear.

Agreed. JQ lost a 10k+ ppt advantage going into the school/work week last round…..

No ones going to be able to tick 400++ ppt for hours on end during the weekends when players are staying up late to play. Work/School week however is a different animal…everyone in Tier 1 should know this by now, haha.

Get on teamspeak. Software is a free download and you can get yourself a cheap headphone with mic for the price of a pizza.

Coltz.5617:

So far in my experiences of WvW :

I’ve seen warriors jumping off their castles into crowds slaughtering half a battalion,

A guadian defending a castle by himself with full vulnerability everytime we stun or condition him and 1 hit us with a hammer. We can hardly hurt this guy.

A mesmer with hp regenerating so fast im doing hardly any dmg to them.

A single thief clearing groups of zergs…

How are they doing it? I run with 4 others all lvl 80. We are new to WvW.

How are they doing it? First off a question to you, what tier are you in because a Tier 6 zerg is quite different than a Tier 1 zerg. Having said that, based on the past vibes of the WvW section of these forums, if groups of maxed 80’s were getting mowed down by a single player controlled character like you describe here, there would be endless threads on it.

I don’t know who this Tarkus guy is but it’s absolutely hilarious players that have been in Tier 1 for this long still QQ about Zerg balls and double teams. Too Funny!