Guild Wars 2

Seigfried.5938:

scootshoot.6583:

To each their own but jeezus, it’s crazy the frequency of transfers some of you guys and gals do just for a video game.

wow!

I think you have it the wrong way around. It’s because it is only a video game, some people move about servers freely. It’s tarkus’ decision if he wants to move to the winning server everytime.

heh. If it’s anything like past, gotta assume he raged in map chat, “I’ll show them! Transferring off NOW”!!!

To each their own but jeezus, it’s crazy the frequency of transfers some of you guys and gals do just for a video game.

wow!

DivineBeing.2086:

Fuzzion.2504:

ESO beta so less folks on.

There seems to be less folks ALL around honestly.

Friday, reset night right? I, a BG player, was able to port to any BL freely without even a queue.

That says A LOT.

Doesn’t say a whole lot aside from peeps being burnt out from leagues thus taking a break ingame doing other chores like pve Holiday content, leveling alts, crafts etc. and or playing with their shiny new XboxOne or PS4 console.

Iris.9704:

bestplayerEva.9301:

Like sor and bg didn’t 2v1 jq all day Saturday……and valley never fell.

Iris.9704:

I’m sad that SoR and JQ falling down and can’t fight againt BG alone without 2v1
cheer up SoR , JQ you can’t defeat BG alone but you still T1

Oh, sorry about didn’t telling about that .
I know that but after that day , 2v1 BG everyday in SEA time. I just play SEA time.
SoR and JQ’s SEA time power fallen and this situation happend i guess.
that is my opinion.
Don’t be disappointed about didn’t telling about saturday 2v1 :-S

Heh. When did you buy your copy of GW2 or been doin WvW? There are those who have participated in WvW since first week of release. They have logged on religiously day in and day out. After a year of release, it’s only matter of time people (even the most avid WvW gamers) are going to get burnt out and start taking extended breaks.

Every online game has and will go through an attrition period, GW2 is no different.

morrolan.9608:

Chris.3290:

Not since RQ visited JQ for the first time has Tier 1 has collectively lost their stool like they still are over the ZDs thing. It’s been a month and a half, find something new to talk about.

<cough> Iron </cough>

Be that as it may none of the previous recent posts to yours were about ZDs so why don’t you find something different to talk about perhaps your own match up instead of trying to troll the T1 thread.

Well put. For a guy who doesn’t even play on any of the 3 servers of BG, SOR, JQ, Chris.3290 definitely likes to play drama queen and stir the pot.

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

scootshoot.6583:

Every server will take a hit and am sure will result in the juggling of tiers and server ranks at a cataclysmic level.

No, it won’t.

Every server taking a hit means the ranks will be the same, except with fewer people playing on each server. There’s no reason to believe that T1 loses 90% of its players, and T5 only loses 5%, and suddenly SoS is T1 material.

If anything, the obscenely large overall population of all T1 servers + TC will act as a buffer and ensure they never drop tiers in the event that a lot of players move on to a hot release of another game. (That game won’t be ESO, it’s garbage.)

You are dismissing how important coverage is in Tier 1. IF a server like TC had one active off hour guild logging 6+ hours each day joining them like ZD’s, they would be instant contenders for gold. Losing any active key commander or guild during off hours to another game or real life issues will have an immediate short term impact that may be difficult to overcome.

Far as that other game being garbage. Look at it this way. In any consumer related product and that includes MMO’s, competition is good regardless of what your feelings are (Android suxxors!, No Iphone suxxors!) as it keeps the developers for each on their toes and mentally challenged to add fresh content in order to keep their customer base. In the end the players (customer) win.

I can assure you, if it wasn’t for those, as you state garbage games that initially started with monthly subs failing due to the #1 competition that continues to be Blizzards Cash Cow (we all know what game that is). Games like GW2 would not be Free 2 Play.

Crimson Riddles.3892:

Warlord.9074:

Crimson Riddles.3892:

What game is Tsym playing now

BF4 I think I’m playing Path Of Exile.

Well to fill you in, 2/3rds of your server is moving to another game apparently… That subscription fee is such a turn off tho

Every server will take a hit and am sure will result in the juggling of tiers and server ranks at a cataclysmic level.

Far as the sub fee, really? Do you work? 15 bucks is cheap entertainment. That’s basically the cost of one order at Domino’s Pizza.

Liquid.9672:

LoneWolfie.1852:

Not sure what adversity BuyingbreadGate had when they had ZDS to pvd every night… It could have been fun and close if they didn’t recruit that guild, heh.

Yeah no doubt. One guild can really change everything. 0.o

We realize you are a recent transfer to BG so don’t have the full history of Tier 1 back in the day…

That said, you will have missed what happened when IRON first joined the fray and triggered SOR’s first gold medal victory alongside reeling off another 5++ more weeks of gold medals. BG is so honorable and mature, am sure none of your server mates came to the forum to do da qq back in those days,

Again, no big deal, you are a recent transfer so wasn’t around during this time so you wouldn’t remember what “One guild” playing at a 6 hour window during the other servers off peak can have on duh ppt.

Jeydra.4386:

One of my stalkers is WvW’ing on an uplevelled Necro and he’s got the gall to trashtalk me while acting like a serious and dedicated BG player lol! The irony has got to be one of the most hilarious things I’ve seen all week.

They still stalking you all this time?

Can’t say I am surprised, seems a lot of your brethren on BG (based off the numerous responses in this thread) consider this video a game a JOB and become berry berry serious when it comes to da ppt.

Fannwong.3059:

Hello SFShinigami,

I stand by my information and sources. Do check my history in GW2 forum and Guru, I don’t troll and I don’t lie. A few people in game know me IRL as a trainer, so I am particular about my reputation and standing.

As of today, Waha has been missing in action for the last 2weeks+, a few commanders have confirmed this also. Tati (Rusalka) has yet to reply me after I told to her to check her own ATM forum.

Let’s agree to disagree. I hope he will be back after Season 1. As I said earlier, we 3 servers need each other.

FW

SFShinigami.2015:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Akamon,

They are not ganging up.

I’ve done some research on SOR forum history.

Rallians have done a lot of trolling in the last 10-11 months in the GW2 forums. This sentiment is shared by many across the NA servers. Some even put SOR as No.1 forum trolls beating Maguuma much to my dismay as the trolls here don’t reflect the community at large. I am perplexed too TBH.

FW

akamon.2769:

hey now, stop ganging up on my server!
you.. you big bullies! that’s.. that’s not very nice, you know.

Yeah like that guy who keeps claiming Waha is quitting despite repeated confirmations he isn’t. Hate that guy. He needs to go to bread.

FW, we play on same server but frankly don’t see a big deal with Waha leaving for a short term or extended break from GW2.

My favorite PC game of all time is a heavily modded Fallout 3 and not even that game can hold my interest playing it day after day….

GW2 is over a year old. Waha from my earliest days was quite active on JQ and logged regularly so am sure he welcomes a break now and then short or longterm from burnout as he has definitely gotten his moneys worth. Even the most avid a gamer regardless of how hooked he becomes will eventually find something new to gather their attention.

SonofNoob.3102:

scootshoot.6583:

Tajz.9826:

KOPPER.1458:

Jizmak SoR is in hibernation for the winter. :P

I thought i heard their intel said they’re in their training week yet again. :P At least JQ still pushing hard and doing their job.

Another BGer who loves to use video games and the term Job in the same sentence.

wow!

What happened to all your predictions about BG getting owned by SoR that you made over and over?

heh. As been noted in my “congratulations BG” post back in week5, I admitted to talking smack all in good fun. However, considering some of you guys take this video game far too seriously and still consider it a JOB, I can understand why it would still effect your feelings some.

Tajz.9826:

KOPPER.1458:

Jizmak SoR is in hibernation for the winter. :P

I thought i heard their intel said they’re in their training week yet again. :P At least JQ still pushing hard and doing their job.

Another BGer who loves to use video games and the term Job in the same sentence.

wow!

Hexin.5603:

You know eso beta affects all servers….
.

who said it didn’t?

electriette.8952:

scootshoot.6583:

MomentofWeakness.1246:

Gilgamesh.7364:

Come on TC I’m rootin’ for you!

I’d rather hit JQ blobs this week than SoR, since their server is on break, I want real fights. TC doesn’t need “assistance” anyhow, we lack coverage zones, but we have TOAST!

Over half of SOR’s teamspeak is in the ESO beta. Thus far for a game that still has months left to polish and fine tune, am pretty impressed with it overall. Due to NDA cannot say much else, hah.

didn’t the servers go down a few times or something lol

Yes The Server did go down a few times but considering it’s in beta alongside the fact this is their first initial stress test as it’s obvious a ton of invites went out the last few days….. well you know.

MomentofWeakness.1246:

Gilgamesh.7364:

Come on TC I’m rootin’ for you!

I’d rather hit JQ blobs this week than SoR, since their server is on break, I want real fights. TC doesn’t need “assistance” anyhow, we lack coverage zones, but we have TOAST!

Over half of SOR’s teamspeak is in the ESO beta. Thus far for a game that still has months left to polish and fine tune, am pretty impressed with it overall. Due to NDA cannot say much else, hah.

Vespirisa.1497:

Uhh I guess congrats on JQ for their win! Low morale along with DIE and IRON leaving makes it worse I’ll be roaming on JQBL so come kill me whenever you want to.

DIE left weeks ago. Far as IRON, they were a shell of what they were in terms of activity and their two main commanders, one of which is sick so has far more important issues to take care of than a video game alongside the other commander Offski whose activity was dwindling long before leagues started it was only matter of time.

and in other news I finally got my beta invite key and as I am typing this downloading a 20 gig client, hah. 2 more gigs to go!

That said, start your GvG and Karma trains early this week boys and gals!

Samhayn.2385:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Samhayn,

It would be bad if SOR dropped to T2. Do take a look at the scores. A lot of the hardcore wvwers are bored, especially the SEA folks.

That said, even if SOR is still in T1 or T2, I wouldn’t mind because as I told the folks in the WvW Committee and in general, most of us are here because we have fun with the community win or lose. I am not saying that the SOR WvW community is better, in fact from the folks who went BG and back to SOR, I had reports that BG has a vibrant community too. I am pretty sure that all T1 WvW have a lot of fun folks, it’s just that our strategic aims are remarkably different.

And to Zikory, to put it simply we are taking the weight of the wvw direction off a few persons/guilds because it’s simply too much. If that is called reorganizing then so be it.

FW

Samhayn.2385:

One can only hope that we (SoR) slip down to tier 2. I was happy there. We played for the fights, talked less trash and just had fun.

even if we don’t slip down I hope we can just not worry about trying to “win” tier 1. Just play the game and fraps all the times the zerg runs from you.

I think you miss understood me. Someone mentioned that a tri realm pvp game is coming out that will take players away. If that happens then I would like to go back to tier 2. As it stands right now us being in tier 2 would.not work out well because we would just be the black gate of tier 2. Not something I like. Vastly out numbering or being vastly out numbered either way not my idea of fun.

When that other game launches the tiers in general am sure will take a huge shift in rankings as a wave of players leave for the next big thing and the servers rebalance themselves out. Won’t be surprised if Tier 8 servers move up to Tier 1 etc.

Bottomline is this, after a year WvW is getting to be the same ole, I know lots are looking for a change. It’s especially bad with the lopsided matchups, any matchup beyond JQ vs BG vs SOR in the same matchup together is a bore fest. Season 2, 3, 4 and onward is not going to change this fact.

Zanthrax.6538:

What I’d love to see is more servers have far far far less disparity we need tier 1 guilds to filter throughout lower tiered servers…thats what would benefit the game the best. Each major wvw guild from tier 1 picks 1 partner from differing timezone and picks a unique server

It’ll never happen but that would make wvw so much better.

Agreed, will never happen. One thing I learned from my many years of playing WoW, MMO gamers in general want phat lewts (carrots at the end of the rainbow) with the least amount of resistance and that mentality has not changed in Guild Wars 2, heh.

As been repeated in past. One of the reasons I have respect for guilds like TW back in the day was they were on JQ during the peak of that servers PPT run. They coulda sat back, rode the gravy train, chest pounded on the forums but instead they transferred to a server which at the time had zero 1st place finishes. Am sure there are other guilds and players who did same but they are few and far between.

Only 2 things..

1) Lock transfers when league starts (Doubt this happens as it removes Anet’s cash cow for 7 weeks)

2) Cap levels so level 1 trash characters cannot zone in to WvW. At its present form, anyone with a 2nd spy/troll account can log in with a freshly rolled level 1 to troll opponent supplies and spy on commander movement / teamspeak. When a new opponent changes hand the following the week they can just delete the level 1 and start a new trash character on the next server (never pay transfer costs this way).

DonCorleoneCS.3549:

lettuce beef burrito, SoR rolled BG for months before the season started and outside of waha hours JQ wasn’t a threat to them either. the season brought about a whole different style of wvw strategy that only BG took advantage; 24/7 coverage and forced double teams

SOR rolled for months? heh. you must be new to Tier 1 or a recent BG transfer, SOR won one single head to head matchup vs BG prior to leagues that did not include JQ as the 3rd wheel.

If you look at SOR’s history pre leagues, the server claimed 8 gold medals out of 37 games. http://mos.millenium.org/servers/history/41

Well below Blackgate http://mos.millenium.org/servers/history/33 and JQ http://mos.millenium.org/servers/history/29

Only reason the casuals predicted SOR to finish 1st in leagues was due to the fact SOR dominated the week prior before leagues went live but they were also going against servers whose commanders were taking it easy and resting (very smart of them) for the soon to be 7 week grind.

possessed.2036:

It turns guild type problems into server wide issues. We will end up with a few super servers with most others quitting.Server hopping is turning the whole idea of wvw into a ridiculous farce & servers into the “haves” & the “have not’s”. Big servers make money effortlessly whilst small servers spend their money having to constantly defend even though they have the added bonus of lower bonus stats in every area.

My dollar is worth as much as the next person that bought the game but my game experience is so out of balance with the “haves” I feel like a 3rd class citizen, all because of the server I landed in. Anet has created so much server disparity that I feel I am playing an entirely different game as rewards are not equal for completing identical content & we do not get an equal opportunity to complete said content in WvWvW.

You raise some good points but given the fact GW2 is a no monthly sub game, Anet needs to make revenue outside boxed sales to pay their employees, keep their shareholders and bosses happy alongside maintaining their hardware so the likelihood of anything happening in regards to server imbalances is slim and none (Anet wants your transfer cash so they can collect on the phat lewt).

Fade.9124:

i really think everyone needs to stop looking at what BG has done and start thinking about what we/they are going to do. Even if ZD goes back this is BG’s MO and by winning season 1, you can expect the same going forward. Rinse and repeat. There will be plenty of other guilds or transfers to be had if this is necessary.

The question is what are all the other gold league servers going to do to get better, get more coverage and be able to compete moving forward. Because let’s face it, it was close for a couple of days but really this BG steamrolling with little or no resistance, especially during certain time zones like right now when they are ticking for 350-400 for hours. Really, the season was over before it even started.

I realize things might change between season 1 and season 2 but BG is not going to change their gameplan, it’s really up to the rest of us to adapt, adjust or die..

Good summary but I think once the next new MMO hits that is right around the corner (we all know what that is), the tiers are going to take a huge cataclysmic shift so I doubt anyone cares at this point what BG will do in the next few months when a mass exodus of players leave to try out the shiny new toy which will most likely include a sizeable chunk of the BG player base as well.

That said, in regards to imbalanced servers, more power to em. However it’s also the reason why I have a lot of respect for guilds like TW back in the day of JQ dominance. They could have stayed back, rode the JQ gravy train during the prime of their PPT existence, chest pumped loudly on the forums but instead they transferred off to a server at that time whom never won a gold (1st place) medal. Am sure there are other guilds (players) who did same but they are few and far between.

Chris.3290:

The greatest irony will be if BG drops like a rock to 3rd after the season ends and ZDs goes back to EU.

It’s little things like this that are making/have made the season such a destructive force of nature.

Since it looks like the outcome has become/is becoming a forgone conclusion I think it’s safe to begin the autopsy on this fiasco.

Anet needs to have a say as well for a future season 2 if they wish to be taken seriously of how they officiate league play.

1) Lock transfers once leagues start (I don’t see this happenin as Anet will lose out on a cash grab, and frankly I can’t blame them.)

2) Level cap requirement for WvW as it’s easy for players with a second throwaway account to zone in with a level 1 and troll supplies / spy on an opponents server. The very next week when the match changes hands, delete the level 1 and start a new throwaway. No need to ever pay transfers on their trash account.

3) Due to the huge influx of transfers before, during season 1 which profitted Anet greatly. Season 2 will no doubt be coming soon after Week 7 ends.

KeeZee.7312:

JQ has no queue on EBG.

+460ppt for BG atm.

How many hours is that so far at 400+ppt?

15k lead

Sheesh, ZD has to be getting splinters by now from all that door bashing!

On a serious note the BG forum warriors seem to claim they only attaining that ppt due to working Harder then the other servers Strength in numbers are secondary

Hickeroar.9734:

Chris.3290:

gebrechen.5643:

I’m really looking forward to season 2 and hoping ZDs is joining SoR or SoS or TC and we will see what happens.

ZDs joining SoR will create a giant snorefest for everyone and would break the game.

ZDs joining TC would probably put TC ahead of SoR. Already having anemic Oceanic and SEA, ZDs would start the day with everything in enemy hands and would spend their entire time doing PvD. If they like that kind of thing, then bless them.

ZDs joining SoS probably would have us take TC’s place (not enough to go T1 most likely) and they would be even more bored since we typically lead in T2 at the end of SEA. If we faced T3 or T4 they’d become expert spawncampers and/or catch up on their PvE.

The best thing for ZDs would be to head back when the season is over, since there is no where they can go that doesn’t unbalance NA.

It’d be interesting to raise SoS to the TC bar. TC has kinda been in that cliche “T1.5” position for a while and it’d be cool to give them some company there…as long as our NA queues didn’t start looking like theirs. /me shudders.

That said, I really love the relaxed culture and unique playstyle here on SoS, and anything that threatened that wouldn’t be welcome from my POV.

The next huge player purge will come 1st quarter 2014 when that other big name MMO releases. Won’t be surprised to see server tiers flip flop and drastically change hands when that time comes and it could be you SOS as the top dawg!

Chris.3290:

gebrechen.5643:

I’m really looking forward to season 2 and hoping ZDs is joining SoR or SoS or TC and we will see what happens.

ZDs joining SoR will create a giant snorefest for everyone and would break the game.

ZDs joining TC would probably put TC ahead of SoR. Already having anemic Oceanic and SEA, ZDs would start the day with everything in enemy hands and would spend their entire time doing PvD. If they like that kind of thing, then bless them.

ZDs joining SoS probably would have us take TC’s place (not enough to go T1 most likely) and they would be even more bored since we typically lead in T2 at the end of SEA. If we faced T3 or T4 they’d become expert spawncampers and/or catch up on their PvE.

The best thing for ZDs would be to head back when the season is over, since there is no where they can go that doesn’t unbalance NA.

Good summary Chris.

BG EU at present led by ZD has been ticking close to 500ppt for hours on end and they still have 3+++ more hours to go before JQ NA logs on to defend their paper assets. Unfortunately for JQ, this is gonna continue during this timeslot for the next 3 days ….

Serkz.3140:

With all due respect, when the season started we were definitely the least stacked and lowest ranked tier 1.

And even around 2am server time this morning, there were no Qs on SoS and JQ BLs. That’s why week 1 is the most memorable foe me because it showed BGs commitment and dedication to wvw despite having the least favorable odds. For many of us, it’s not the prize that we cherish but rather the journey.

My servermate took this screenshot minutes before week 1 leagues started, this was prior to ZD’s joining as well. Regardless, good job on the win, but to state BG wasn’t already stacked couldn’t be further from the truth,

Reslinal.2359:

scootshoot.6583:

Reslinal.2359:

scootshoot.6583:

Congrats BG on Anets first league championship! It was close for awhile but when JQ’s finest hour Oceanic/Sea is unable to win the PPT battle by a wide margin it’s apparent the end is near as ZD will take advantage of the minimum resistance afforded during JQ’s least manned play time and another 5k+++ to the lead.

Have fun with your golden doly’s, make sure to share a screen shot!! With this win I believe you guys can take week 7 off (well deserved).

Yes, I admit I ribbed you some as it was all in good fun in a video game of all things. No hard feelings

While I appreciate the early congratulations, the match is not won until at least Thursday:) Both JQ and BG have pulled amazing come backs before, so a mere 8k lead or even 20k lead is not guarantee for win.

Do we not agree JQ’s strength in numbers is Oceanic/SEA? the fact they were unable to push back hard during their peak ppt hours says a lot of which way this match is gonna end up.

And it was precisely the early EU/EU time (BG’s stronger time) a couple days ago when BG got beaten by JQ and lost its lead then. .

Couple days ago during the WEEKEND? Of course EU time during the weekend ZD will face resistance. You should know by now coverage never comes into play until the school/work week.

Again, congrats on League 1 champs!

Samhayn.2385:

Traejan.1729:

Grats to SoR for what appears to be their first win of Season 1

winning wvw is easy, get as many people as you can to play on NA servers well the majority of NA is either in bed or at work/school.

Indeed. WvW has always been this way and will continue to be going forward for league season 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc. but by then most of us will probably be at that cough other game which is scheduled to release early 2014 (can’t name game as Anet is extremely sensitive when mentioning it as the mods quickly delete it)

@Traejan.1729 Far as SOR’s first win in leagues all you have to look at is our server history pre leagues. We had single digits in the gold medal first place finishes well below BG and JQ so was surprised a few posters back in they day during league prediction period thought that cycle was going to change all of a sudden as SOR did not have any huge guild influxes since.

Reslinal.2359:

scootshoot.6583:

Congrats BG on Anets first league championship! It was close for awhile but when JQ’s finest hour Oceanic/Sea is unable to win the PPT battle by a wide margin it’s apparent the end is near as ZD will take advantage of the minimum resistance afforded during JQ’s least manned play time and another 5k+++ to the lead.

Have fun with your golden doly’s, make sure to share a screen shot!! With this win I believe you guys can take week 7 off (well deserved).

Yes, I admit I ribbed you some as it was all in good fun in a video game of all things. No hard feelings

While I appreciate the early congratulations, the match is not won until at least Thursday:) Both JQ and BG have pulled amazing come backs before, so a mere 8k lead or even 20k lead is not guarantee for win.

Do we not agree JQ’s strength in numbers is Oceanic/SEA? the fact they were unable to push back hard during their peak ppt hours says a lot of which way this match is gonna end up.

ZD will log in soon and tick another 5plus hours of 400++ ppt during JQ’s weakest link which will pretty much put the final nail in the coffin.

You have nothing to be concerned about. It’s ovah! again congrats! Well earned!

Make sure to take a screeney of your golden doly in action and share it with us!

Congrats BG on Anets first league championship! It was close for awhile but when JQ’s finest hour Oceanic/Sea is unable to win the PPT battle by a wide margin it’s apparent the end is near as ZD will take advantage of the minimum resistance afforded during JQ’s least manned play time and another 5k+++ to the lead.

Have fun with your golden doly’s, make sure to share a screen shot!! With this win I believe you guys can take week 7 off (well deserved).

Yes, I admit I ribbed you some as it was all in good fun in a video game of all things. No hard feelings

Per recent patch notes

•Introduced further server-side optimizations, with significant improvements during heavy combat scenarios.

Israel.7056:

LightningBlaze.4913:

AoN members always run in full group? is it because every single one are horrible individually? if not I would like to encounter one that is at least decent on 1v1.

Maybe you should stop crying and get a group of your own. It’s not their responsibility to stop what they’re doing just to make you happy.

Am surprised you didn’t use your typical comeback to just Transfer Off when a playerbase is unhappy.

kanderous.7512:

I said it once and I’ll say it again.

Everyone saying “SoR has morale issues, is about to crumble, had internal drama” or in general is putting the server down are either seated comfortably, In the sidelines or not members of the said server.

We are out to have fun, enjoy the game with our guilds. Working our butts off running yaks, sitting in towers for hours is not fun.

What is fun is getting into fights, taking stonemist, surviving with 30 people against an 80 man blob for 2 hours in stonemist or papering t3 keeps while contested. None of that PvD karmatraining.

You know what else isn’t fun? Running into towers or keeps, avoiding fights unless you have a blob or are under ac
cover.

If this is what it takes to be considered a champion by Anet, I’d rather be in the losing server.

Anyone who has played MMO games should know people come and go all the time.

Far as SOR morale issues. It started with some random SOR whose post history trashed the server and admitted to being called a troll on map chat long before leagues started (he was talkin trash 5 months ago per his post history), lol.

He came here in a past week league matchup thread and started whining to the masses about his impending transfer (no surprise here) and attracted the PvF warriors of Blackgate (Titan, etc.) to jump on his bandwagon and add into further fictional drama, nothing more nothing less.

DKNS.2135:

Jaxs.5830:

Reslinal.2359:

Jaxs.5830:

Reslinal.2359:

But it is only one guild and it is only 2 hours, really no reason just for whole server giving up trying all together.

The impact of losing all upgrades every day while you have no one to defend is pretty significant.

It’s not like they don’t have the people to hold stuff in this time zone at all. They used to actually winning this brief time zone with IRON and stay-up late SEA. The coming of ZDs only really just tip the scale towards BG, not completely dominates like right now. The problem is ever since SoR lose week 2 to a dramatic come back, they are completely demoralized and people just stop trying to put in effort to cover this brief time zone. And now it becomes a vicious cycle, no one tries so you lose everything, which discourage more people from trying….

Bottom line is you got bigger to ‘tip the scales’. You are now suggesting your competition just work harder because you want good match-ups. So you want a good match as long as the scales are tipped in your favor, because if they were tipped in someone else’s favor you could have just worked harder right?

Maybe instead of playing in a decided match they are spending all their time recruiting and raising money for a warchest, it is the GW2 way.

BG worked their kitten off when you got IRON.

BG also never gave up when our SEA/OCX was having issues when MERC left.

BG also worked overtime to bring down JQ the first time it happened because if you recall we came from behind back then as well while being weaker than JQ back in those days.

I can go on and on but what’s the use….

When one uses terms like work and overtime to describe their server in a video game of all things….well let’s just say it’s difficult to match that, congrats on your victory man

Love it or hate it, Anet continues to make a killing in players and whole guilds transferring to escape queues or bandwagoning to already stacked servers due to leagues. Next to opening day sales, the announcement of leagues is probably their 2nd highest profit margin numbers in terms of quarterly financial gains.

Long as the former happens, Anet as a business has zero incentive to do anything and frankly I can’t blame them.

Svarty.8019:

Jayne.9251:

There does have to be some reward to fight hard.

Calling bullkitten on this one. The reward for coming 1st should be the glory of coming 1st, that’s all.

It’s only about nightcapping and blobbing anyway, not much in terms of “deserving” a reward until Anet make changes to population per the thread they made specifically with that in mind, and in response to community calls for said and same..

Tru dat, but online gamers, particularly casuals of whom 90pct of WvW participants are love the carrots at the end of the rainbow.

That said, it’s pretty obvious Anet didn’t take their own leagues very seriously, if they did, they would have locked all transfers once leagues started. Also add in the fact no level restriction cap was added to be allowed into WvW. At present state it’s way too easy for those with 2nd trash accounts to simply join in the opponents server as a fresh level 1 to spy or troll as they can continue to delete and create level 1 characters each week for new opponent servers (no need to pay transfer costs this way).

kyro.8162:

Lemrish.5970:

People taking breaks/quitting once season starting makes no sense. I can understand doing so beforehand or afterwards but this is what most hardcore WvW players have been looking forward to since this format was announced. To just “take a break” 2 weeks into it is just weak.

To quote Dog Chapman “There ain’t no warrior heart there”

Leagues are by far the dumbest thing to hit WvWvW in a while. WvWvW isn’t even close to being fixed and they throw this out there to try and get more pvers interested in it. This is just a little “we need an excuse to push back wvwvw fixes for a while” as leagues guarantee that wvwvw wont be touched for 7 weeks. As in updates and fixes it so desperately needs. But wvwvw will get touched (for pve), kittening salads are killing my dolyaks.

Anet themselves didn’t take leagues very seriously. If they did, they would have discontinued transfers once leagues started and add in restricted level caps so players with second accounts can’t log into the opponents server with a throwaway level 1 troll/spy character.

Far as financial gain, it was a win win for Anet as it was probably their 2nd biggest cash cow next to release day due to the mass transfers of players coming and going.

It was smart strategy for Anet to institute leagues for short term financial gain to keep their coffers full for the inevitable player loss as ESO launch is nearing fruition. Am sure many players from Tier 1 to the lowest populated server will leave in droves to try out the next big MMO release which will undoubtedly result in a huge shift in server rankings.

Gilgamesh.7364:

scootshoot.6583:

MagiKarp.8201:

scootshoot.6583:

MagiKarp.8201:

TWKats.2785:

Bashido.8694:

Cant we all just get along! What names?

“I’d just like to leave this here, ZD DID in fact approach me to come to SoR, I told them to wait and see how things turn out before they did. I also told them we had no intention of stacking SoR and that they may not want to come at all. Fact of the matter is, they had no intention of thinking or bringing balance and neither did the BG leadership. Attached is the screenshot of the conversations with the ZD “scout” who was on SoR. Anyone who says that SoR is in the business of stacking to win has no clue of what they are talking about. I told him he should talk to IRON before moving over to SoR because we did not want to stack our server for a win. We wanted competition.

As far as ZD actually coming over, no other guild in ANY time zone runs 50-60 man deep. They run that heavy in a dead zone and it will bring BG the victory without competition. Also, in the SS is him telling me BG offered them 15k gold to xfer over."

-Indo

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Woah! No wonder Karp’s been absent all this time. This kat barely posted for months leading up to leagues. Karp’s been working OT in real life to make sure that 15k payment was ready.

Always wondered where the term BuyGate came from, now we all know the truth!

Scoots, I wish I could afford the crack you smoke.

For the record I see nothing wrong with what ZD did. If I ran a 50+++ man active WvW guild who would guarantee a victory of logging in a dead time zone I’d goto the highest bidder as well.

I hope your 2 week paycheck is all worth it at the end of leagues man.

SoR went from having the biggest EU in all of NA to having a “dead timezone”.

It’s dead because you made it dead. What happened to that huge EU guild KISS again? Just goes to show the true colors of your WvW community.

Enjoy the forums, this is probably the only thing SoR has a chance at winning right now

Woah, you sound upset. Relax man, you guys got League 1 in the BANK, no pun intended.

Gilgamesh.7364:

Atine.8623:

MagiKarp.8201:

This isn’t parliamentary question time.

The “fundraiser” was over 3 months ago so has nothing to do with ZDs.

1. I’ve never say this is, heck, I didn’t even mention the word “parliament”, I just think the “1, 2, 3, 4” way would help us clarify the sentences.
2. So, even the fundraiser is over, some helpful guy(s) still borrowed/give money to ZDs to help them with the transfers.
3. Weren’t they able to gather enough money within the guild to fund their own member, or, even if they were, they asked for help instead of trying to get the fund within the guild?
4. I mentioned you used the word “give”, so I assume they aren’t going to return them back? Therefore, you are technically “buying” them since it’s not a “loan”.
5. You said that the sum “was nothing close to the figure you are fabricating.” Mind enlighten us how much you borrowed/gave to ZDs to help them transfer over please?

If you don’t wish to answer, don’t. If you don’t know, please do say you don’t know. But since you used the word “we”, I guess you should be quite aware. If you wish to reply, please do so.

Why is SoR so concerned with ZD’s? They should be happy they have another guild they can fight instead of QQing on the forums.

Not like you guys play for PPT anyways :P

Who getting personal? IF anything I am praising ZD for going to the highest bidder, I would have done same in their shoes.

Mindtrick.5190:

Hey guys next year we get updates and updates after that will be game changing. So stay updated on the updates. Any update?

Hehe. I suspect Lions Arch for each of our servers is going to look vastly different when those updates come.

ESO is scheduled to launch early next year and many here will leave in droves to try out the much hyped MMO. Every server from Rank 1 to the lowest population will lose players and guilds to that game, some will comeback but am sure a good chunk will stay for good which will undoubtedly shift the landscape of the present tiers so enjoy it while it lasts.

I also noticed WoW the 8 year MMO king is finally merging servers via their Connected Realms public relations speak which is basically a term for realms being shutdown and merged. That game will continue to take a hit in subs as am sure many there will continue to leave in droves when ESO launches.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/11393305/Connected_Realms_Update-11_1_2013

Fanfaron.6109:

This tread uhhh… it’s pure gold!
Love you all gg gl cya in game <3

ooooh field commander tag. Maybe you can answer this once and for all, you know official stance like.

Did ZD RAge Quit after finishing 3rd in the Week 1, EU matchup? I heard rumors you guys did but wanted to get your take.

Thanks man

Taras.4367:

This has been an entertaining 2 weeks reading all these posts. SoR tears are the best kind of tears.

I have definitely teared up hard due to the endless laughs provided in this thread.

Wonder if ZD teared up when they rage quit after a week 1, EU 3rd place finish?

Arcade.8901:

Botinhas.2018:

I always thought ZD’s was a guild that wanted to fight, guess i was wrong, but thank you for letting me know you are more interested in QQ and tears than fights. Nice motivation to come to NA

Iron, your tears are best tears, for now at least….

Take it easy on ZD guys, if the going gets tough they Rage Quit and transfer off.

Arcade.8901:

scootshoot.6583:

However based on your quick responses here of trash talking, it’s pretty obvious some of you are are real sensitive so I guess the rumors are true of you guys Rage Quittin..

Sensitivity in what? To answer to some trash? Why not ? I m just bored, that bored that i m even answering a troll.

Oh jeeze, look at the personal attacks and namecalling, obvious sign the truth stings.

Still can’t believe you guys abandoned ship en masse over a week 1 EU third place finish, wow!

Arcade.8901:

KeeZee.7312:

ZD jumped on an already stacked server, don’t be mad that it makes ZD look like they wanted an easy time.

I am sure you all believed that BG were the underdogs contrary to them beating SoR 6 out of the last 7 matches the 2 faced each other.

Sorry if jumping to a stacked server ruins ZD’s reputation, only ones to blame are the ones who took the gold from BG.

Ruins our reputation in the eyes of the server which just trash talks about us all the way during our stay on NA in hopeless attempts to justify their losses and previous chest thumping?

You are taking it way out of proportion. All I asked was is it true ZD rage quit after losing Week 1 EU and finishing 3rd? I mean the timing was impeccable.

However based on your quick responses here of trash talking, it’s pretty obvious some of you are are real sensitive so I guess the rumors are true of you guys Rage Quittin..

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

Whoa you guys still talking about ZDs moving to BG…

Anyway, Very fun fights on BG BL last night during NA prime. Mad respect for all the guilds on the field last night. Keep up the good fighting! Choo Dat Bay Ninja Omfg……..

Naw, am just talking about ZD RAGE QUITTING HARDCORE over a 3rd place finish in week 1 EU.

Arcade.8901:

scootshoot.6583:

Arcade.8901:

scootshoot.6583:

DKNS.2135:

Ironic how some SoRs are calling ZDs as rage quitters when you look at the past 2 weeks.

You mean the same SOR who finished 2nd place 3 weeks in a row? That don’t sound quitting to me. ZD on the other hand basically abandoned ship and Rage Quit their home server of whom they have been on since launch, all because they finished 3rd in a week 1 matchup

ZDs on SFR since launch ? Lol nice one.

So they Rage Quit another server as well? doesn’t surprise me.

So Iron Rage Quiters too ?

Were there leagues back then? Still can’t believe ZD abandoned ship en masse over the results of one week, wow.

Arcade.8901:

scootshoot.6583:

DKNS.2135:

Ironic how some SoRs are calling ZDs as rage quitters when you look at the past 2 weeks.

You mean the same SOR who finished 2nd place 3 weeks in a row? That don’t sound quitting to me. ZD on the other hand basically abandoned ship and Rage Quit their home server of whom they have been on since launch, all because they finished 3rd in a week 1 matchup

ZDs on SFR since launch ? Lol nice one.

So they Rage Quit another server as well? doesn’t surprise me.