Guild Wars 2

Cuddlepie.8109:

Webley.1295:

You guys are Taking Tarkus’s post out of context. When he says we lost alot of “dead weight” we had 400 members before we moved to JQ, many not serious bout wvw, not sure if they knew the tactics, read the forums etc.

Theres obviously still a great deal of MERC who did know thier stuff and stay on BG which we respect to this day 100%

We are not a 400 member guild no more. The dead weight is gone, we know who knows what now, if that makes sense

so please stick that in your notes guys

To all the MERC haters out there – XOXOXO

MERC are still getting to know JQ and JQ are getting to know us. This is our first stress test as the matchup before was really boring for all parties

- Gallimar

That’s simply not true. Tarkus has previously criticised the quality of the MERC members – particularly the Commanders – that stayed. He did so in conversations with me about why he left. These conversations were due to our shared history long before he joined MERC.

I’m glad to know that JQ ticking for over 300 for hours isn’t “boring for all parties”. The fact is that Tarkus and Ralikh showed poor knowledge of the T1 meta and poor judgement in moving.

Neither Shakira’s hips nor the PPT lie – no matter how much apologists post otherwise.

300ish? That’s actually not bad at all during a timeslot that <insert server> happens to dominate in coverage.

Boulderbolg.3460:

krippler.9826:

kuora.5402:

Boulderbolg.3460:

Contrary to popular belief, there are some differences between the three big servers. My opinion could be wrong here since I don’t zerg, but here is how I have seen T1 play out over the last 10 months.

Blackgate and JQ have smaller guilds which sometimes run separately, and sometimes run together to create a massive blob. SoR tends to run one blob more often. This might vary depending on timezone, so what I’ve seen mostly applies to NA. Running in a smaller group might sound appealing until you get run over by a 40 man zerg a few times, so each has it’s merits.

SoR is arguably the most competitive server, with Blackgate in close second. JQ is competitive too, but they don’t seem to be all about winning in T1.

BG by far has the better smaller roaming guilds, although SoR is starting to pick it up a little. JQ is still a bit behind on the small organized roaming front. If you are a roamer looking for fights, join JQ.

With leagues coming up, all three of these servers are getting transfers, so things will probably change a lot soon.

If you believe SoR blobs any more than the other 2 servers you’re delusional. BG and JQ blobs just as much if not more.

The stigma is absolutely true. You have not seen blob until you have seen SoR blob. They never send anybody, they send everybody.

Yep, when SoR gets serious about blobbing our roaming gameplay can end quickly. Not because we get zerged but because EVERY single player on the map is in that blob. During that time period when CAPS and lulz seemed to stop playing, there were nights when we literally couldn’t find a single SoR player that wasn’t with the zerg.

This was before the Bloodlusts though. CAPS and lulz seem to be coming back, and SoR is adapting well to the new meta of roaming groups making a difference. =)

I bet you were that poor solo miner that was freight trained, sorry bro

If you are the stereotype MMO gamer you are gonna want to get on the highest stacked server in terms of coverage so you can attain your goals with as little resistance as possible, if this is your playstyle make a bee line for JQ as at present rate they have coverage that exceeds all others.

However if you want lots of targets and feel you are good enough to make a difference there are options elsewhere.

Liquid.9672:

Swamurabi.7890:

T1 won’t stop recruiting as long as there is one WvW player left in a lower tier.

Time for map caps to stop this GW2 arms race.

There was a time a couple of months ago where T1 was pretty darn balanced. As balanced as things can get anyways, and the only server that was openly recruiting at the time was JQ because they did need help in a few spots. For the most part and for a time, the winner was mainly decided by whichever server actually cared to win on any given week.

However, just like when the announcement of the closing of free transfers changed everything, so did the announcement of leagues.

JQ did sort of over recruit, did they not? I read they have queues now during Asia time for all 4 zones, wow! I guess that server wanted the rumored “Finisher” prize badly for getting 1st place in leagues.

He should have had a discussion with the playerbase long before “Leagues” and buffs were announced. “hey guys what do you think about leagues, pros and cons…?”

At present it’s way late in the game to do anything as there would be a huge player revolt demanding transfer fee refunds if leagues are changed drastically or shelved altogether from what was announced.

FirstInfantry.2795:

I’ve never been on those servers, although I know a couple from there, I’ve been told that all 3 servers are pretty much lag battles and day long ques how true is this?

Next time ask those posters what their specs are, starting with the cpu……

sostronk.8167:

Tyaen.5148:

Narcissistic person is a narcissist.

I’m really curious to see if BG can keep this up all week, or the previous pattern of early week fall off/mid week repush continues.

Great fights all.

After losing last week to SOR, I don’t think BG will stop turning up this week. The double team from Oceanic to SEA to EU tonight hurt, but I believe BG has something they want to prove. That said, some of us are taking breaks for leagues so anything could happen.

When the going gets tough, you sit on the sidelines, enjoy your extended break for leagues bro.

sostronk.8167:

Ghoulina.2976:

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

Ghoulina.2976:

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

Jet.4795:

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

WoW SoR that truce with JQ last night and the double-teaming seems to have backfired, GJ to JQ for jumping ahead of SoR to second place XD

There was a truce? I’m confused, lol last night all HzH and EMP did was push SOR garrison. LOL

Yup before i logged JQ and SoR had hit BG heavy on all maps we were down to 4 camps across all maps and 1 tower and 1 keep. So yup clear there was a truce since both servers hit BG at the same time on all maps. Normally JQ still lose out when they did passed truces with SoR, this time it was SoR that lost out and slipped to 3rd.

I think someone has their tinfoil hat on a little too tight. You’re the person yelling “We have spies” in /t as well aren’t you?

Dont believe i was talking about spys? I was talking about server’s making a truce to double team another server which is a legit WvW tactic. Maybe you dont understand this but thats fine.

Also if you’re seriously saying spying on other servers TS/map etc doesnt happen then you clearly dont WvW much. All servers have outted spys on there servers including people who have tried seige capping/ draining supplies to help other servers. Only last week BG finally got a guy perma banned for that, thanks to a dev spotting him walking lems off a cliff.

Relating one to the other is not saying one is the other.

As for a truce, considering all yesterday we focused mainly on SoR to push them below us, not seeing a truce there, now trying to keep BG towers paper is a smart tactic, not a truce. Now as for SoR focusing you, I can only guess they view you as the larger threat.

I think there is something in the history of rivalry with SOR and BG. SOR seem to get more satisfaction out of seeing BG “losing” than SOR actually “winning”. I have played on both servers but derive from somewhere else. I can’t say that I respect that rivalry. I do feel as though some of it is a bit of an unhealthy obsession that does make the game play in Tier 1 less tactical, competitive and enjoyable than it could be on way too many occasions. But kids gonna be kids.

Whatever you do just don’t re-transfer back to SOR when the going gets tough..

eKoyz.1568:

I just want to say thanks to SoR and BG for the intense farming session JQ had in EB.

Very first post in your history is this? Boy you are starting off well, eh? Glad to hear the JQ veterans carried you hard bro.

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

“Too late in the game now, they have to go through with it.”

The overall story of guildwars2

Indeed. Just seems like Anet developers don’t think ahead and the repercussions involved. Take for instance the free trial period. Do they think for one minute a brand new player “thinking” about purchasing the game starts the trial, looks at the WvW tab, zones in as a fresh uplevel whom immediately gets one shot and/or deals with skill lag and will automatically think, WOW COOL GAME, let me buy the full retail copy!!

Some of the Anet guys are straight from Blizzard so are veterans to the MMO genre so would assume they have some common sense with their ideas before following through on them in game, hah!

After the large amount of guild / player transfers? It’s too late in the game now. If Anet were to come out and state, “hey we made a mistake, leagues are no longer in play…”, there would be a huge revolt of players wanting their money back alongside all sorts of other hate threads.

Too late in the game now, they have to go through with it.

PredatoR.5247:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkqhpuGmfhg

What is that elevator music? lol

Magnetron.5823:

I don’t know.. Whats up guys, skill lag is not a myth, its a problem..

Anet can dumb down combat, meaning, look at the sheer number of sigils and runes in the Auction House. Percentage hit triggers this, get hit for this much triggers this, then add in the variance of food buffs that require more calculations.

So a battle is happening where x number of players on both sides each with their own unique traits, runes, sigils, food buffs, dodge rolling, etc. doing their thing. The server has to keep up with all these calculations and send it back to the player in real time. Add to the fact GW2 arguably has the best graphics in the present line of MMO’s.

Skill lag definitely sucks for all us, however, given the examples listed am surprised the game runs as well as it does…..

Nuked.2360:

scootshoot.6583:

Axle.5182:

JJBigs.8456:

Paid or not, you transffered to the most stacked server in NA (Not timezone, bracket)

It was the timezone, bracket we came for not the stacked nature of the server as a whole. We had been approached over the last few weeks from representatives of JQ,BG and SOR so we sent out scouts to these servers for a week to run with guilds get a feel for the community and bring that information back to vote on.

The decision was based on the compatibility of [AFTL] with these servers and in particular during our timezone, were a havoc guild we don’t field large numbers so we don’t stomp around maps and hold the line like larger guilds. It was also a strong factor that we had some guilds we have worked well with in the past and know how we operate as this would speed up our integration and effectiveness that left a strong pull towards SOR with [IRON] and BG with [COIN].

From our findings all three servers are in fact in an arms race against each other so no matter what side you choose your going to get flack from one or both of the other servers who would wish you to believe you would have been better with them, no offence to any of the other servers you have great communities but we voted with what was in our own interests as much as the servers themselves.

Were not here for an easy ride and so far we haven’t gotten it were here to stomp and get stomped in equal measure and learn what we can to better ourselves vs roamers and similar sized havoc squads something that has quickly died out in the EU top tier bracket where the Blobs now primarily rule supreme and individual guild raids have become a thing of the past. Don’t get me wrong were are not disillusioned into thinking NA servers are the opposite we do not wish to be forced to be a blob guild nor feel forced to be part of such and NA for the time being primarily playing outside of NA prime still facilitates the opportunity for us to play the way we want.

Wastin time explainin to trolls, eventually you will figure it out, haha.

That said, just look at the gold medal count of JQ vs BG vs SOR. SOR has 7, compared to 14 and 19 respectively, a guild lookin for an easy ride would not be bandwagonin to SOR.

The relevance of the medals means nothing lol. If you look at how recent each side won their medals that truly shows who joining would bandwagon. JQ hasn’t won consistently since May. While BG/SoR have consistently won in that time since. (JQ has 1 win), BG (10~), SoR (7).

Bandwagoners lookin to be carried don’t have full history and server drama of the goings on and who won when, they are typically going to look at the medal count and go from there.

Good try though.

Axle.5182:

JJBigs.8456:

Paid or not, you transffered to the most stacked server in NA (Not timezone, bracket)

It was the timezone, bracket we came for not the stacked nature of the server as a whole. We had been approached over the last few weeks from representatives of JQ,BG and SOR so we sent out scouts to these servers for a week to run with guilds get a feel for the community and bring that information back to vote on.

The decision was based on the compatibility of [AFTL] with these servers and in particular during our timezone, were a havoc guild we don’t field large numbers so we don’t stomp around maps and hold the line like larger guilds. It was also a strong factor that we had some guilds we have worked well with in the past and know how we operate as this would speed up our integration and effectiveness that left a strong pull towards SOR with [IRON] and BG with [COIN].

From our findings all three servers are in fact in an arms race against each other so no matter what side you choose your going to get flack from one or both of the other servers who would wish you to believe you would have been better with them, no offence to any of the other servers you have great communities but we voted with what was in our own interests as much as the servers themselves.

Were not here for an easy ride and so far we haven’t gotten it were here to stomp and get stomped in equal measure and learn what we can to better ourselves vs roamers and similar sized havoc squads something that has quickly died out in the EU top tier bracket where the Blobs now primarily rule supreme and individual guild raids have become a thing of the past. Don’t get me wrong were are not disillusioned into thinking NA servers are the opposite we do not wish to be forced to be a blob guild nor feel forced to be part of such and NA for the time being primarily playing outside of NA prime still facilitates the opportunity for us to play the way we want.

Wastin time explainin to trolls, eventually you will figure it out, haha.

That said, just look at the gold medal count of JQ vs BG vs SOR. SOR has 7, compared to 14 and 19 respectively, a guild lookin for an easy ride would not be bandwagonin to SOR.

Sororita.3465:

As the title says, should we all just reroll heavy classes? it seems every zerg and soon every roamer is a heavy class with heavy condition removal..well im right ole kittened. The fact that as a necro i have stupidly low healing/dodges/stability and a deathshroud that is a shadow of its former self. Yeah im venting but i wouldnt have to if things were balanced.

A necro complaining about zerg survivability? You need to visit the Necro forums and get some advice from the pros there…

It’s easy to troll with 2 accounts (1 as primary, 2nd as spy throwaway). Won’t be surprised to see an increase when leagues start.

2nd troll account highest level character across the board is level 1, just use this account and login to the opposing teams server and troll them daily. Once the league switches by way of new opponents, delete your level 1 characters and start fresh ones on the new opponents server, never have to pay server transfer fees ever again.

Doubt it will happen but all Anet needs to do is put a minimum cap limit so the real dedicated trolls have to put in the time and grind levels to join wvw whereas at the present they can just roll a throwaway level 1 character and do as they please.

Thor.1756:

scootshoot.6583:

Thor.1756:

Rackhir Tanelorn.9123:

Thor.1756:

Butter.3024:

And just quick question does SoR also buy guild? Or just JQ and BG buy guild

No server buys guilds. Most servers offer what gold they can to transferring guilds to help cover their cost of transferring. The assertion that they pay guilds anything above that cost as a bribe to get them to come over is ludicrous.

Just paying the full transfer costs for 10 good-sized WvW Guilds is a pretty amazing outlay of Gold that JQ just spread around.

As WvW guilds, we don’t have a lot of money, and I’m really confused as to where people think we get all this cash. Besides just not spending any time farming, we’re also expending a lot of gp building sup siege, upgrading stuff, buying feasts etc. etc.

You forgot to add the other option, something of which am sure many of your guildmates and servermates have done, buy gems at the AH and convert it to gold. What’s the going rate now? 10 bucks for 600 gems? Unless one works minimum wage at McDonalds, 10 bucks is throwaway money for an otherwise cheap entertainment game like GW2.

Is it possible someone could waste a bunch of rl money to get in-game gold and then give that gold to other guilds? Yes.
Do I think that has ever happened? No.
Is anyone who does that an idiot? Yes.

Indeed, I really hope no server wasted gold on paying for guilds led by ex JQ commanders like Noodles in the past, I think that guy is on his 4th server in the past 2 months, hah! and if BG continues their downward spiral (which I hope doesn’t happen btw) as they have bounced back in the past, guys like Noodles is gonna be the first player to jump ship.

Thor.1756:

Rackhir Tanelorn.9123:

Thor.1756:

Butter.3024:

And just quick question does SoR also buy guild? Or just JQ and BG buy guild

No server buys guilds. Most servers offer what gold they can to transferring guilds to help cover their cost of transferring. The assertion that they pay guilds anything above that cost as a bribe to get them to come over is ludicrous.

Just paying the full transfer costs for 10 good-sized WvW Guilds is a pretty amazing outlay of Gold that JQ just spread around.

As WvW guilds, we don’t have a lot of money, and I’m really confused as to where people think we get all this cash. Besides just not spending any time farming, we’re also expending a lot of gp building sup siege, upgrading stuff, buying feasts etc. etc.

You forgot to add the other option, something of which am sure many of your guildmates and servermates have done, buy gems at the AH and convert it to gold. What’s the going rate now? 10 bucks for 600 gems? Unless one works minimum wage at McDonalds, 10 bucks is throwaway money for an otherwise cheap entertainment game like GW2.

Butter.3024:

BG is dead when MERC left. Maybe if they can rally up like 15k gold and buy all the guilds then maybe, but right now they dont stand a chance, especially agaisnt JQ

Any who I heard that JQ is ridiculously stack right now, but currently SoR is waypointing all 3 Keep of BG in their own BL. So I don’t know. Who do you guys think will win?

And just quick question does SoR also buy guild? Or just JQ and BG buy guild

Some servers regardless of T1 will pitch in to help cover the cost of transfers.

Anyone who is paying large sums of gold to bribe guilds however is in for a future let downs as those guilds can leave at the drop of a hat. Maybe members will quit in droves for a new game or some drama occurs amongst guilds that ends up with the guild that was bribed to leave for greener pastures.

sostronk.8167:

SleepingDragon.1596:

Personally, I really don’t see much stacking of JQ. There’s a mixture of balance changes… Based on what I’ve seen and some of the more active guilds, this is what I’m noticing:

Part of EMP now PLX/ESOL (indirect from JQ to BG) – International 24/7 coverage, Oceanic prime?
OMEN (indirect from JQ to BG) – Oceanic
Ward (from JQ to SOR) – NA
Aco (from JQ to SOR) – NA
AFTL (from EU to SOR) – EU
RISE (from BG to SOR) –
FIRE (from JQ to ???) -
Part of Merc (from BG to JQ) – Oceanic
RQ (from FA to JQ) – NA
NS (from DB to JQ) – NA
AGG (from XXX to JQ) – NA

I’m missing a few from various servers… But if you noticed that the list only shows that the few guilds recruited into JQ was to fill some of the huge gaps that went over to BG and SOR either directly or indirectly (meaning that they ended up being there as of today). SOR is still a powerhouse in EU time. BG is still a powerhouse in Oceanic time. JQ is still a powerhouse in SEA time. NA timezone is anyone’s game now.

There are a number of things your overlooking in this list. But rather than outlaying them Ill put it plain and simple. JQ is stacked in SEA. They are the only server in the game that has the numbers to full queue 4 maps during this timezone. Most servers will struggle to queue 2 maps and on an average night may be able to queue 1. Because this timezone is so stacked, it is a big deal because they can outnumber any other server either on 4 maps or 3, meaning they will be easily able to paper everything during this timezone.

For SOR, this means their biggest timezone (EU), will spend most of it trying to secure their paper.

For BG, this means their strongest timezone (Oceanic), will be working towards something that will later be paper.

But the big issue is these two other timezones for BG and SOR are not nearly as stacked as JQs SEA is. Numbers wise, Oceanic will never be that stacked of a timezone for T1 servers. A server may be able to pull that off during EU, but I doubt it. EU players don’t tend to play for PPT, they tend to prefer the fights, so stacking for most of them isn’t such a fun event like it is for SEA players.

I really do think if JQ actually turns up to fight for an entire week they should win hands down in a given week. But they often don’t turn up. Thats always been an issue with JQ. They have always struggled to get players to remain active in WvW when they have the population already. But now they have purchased a large amount of guilds. They now have more active players and they are going to have an insurgence of players that aren’t active becoming active during leagues. Thank god for map queues.

Interesting other large SEA guilds from other servers stacked on JQ. I guess most don’t want fights and would rather avoid fighting Waha’s zerg ball. lol

Zikory.6871:

MasterYoda.8563:

Zikory.6871:

Stay uneducated.

Really you have to bring insults into this? what are you 12?

Are you saying 12 year olds are the the only ones capable of making a observation on ones level of education? I don’t appreciate you bringing Ageist prejudice into a forum that consists of many people of varying ages.

Back to the Topic: I think TC will play a strong underdog and take 3rd place upset! The herd of dolyaks in the parade will be heard through out the land of Tyria!

EDIT: I wanted to clarify due to the trolly tone of the first paragraph. I really do think TC has what it take to place in the top 3. It would be very hard but they have some T1 experience now and if they rally the population, they can do really well.

TC is doing a good job of taking advantage of BG vs SOR battles as they have ninjaed a lot of stuff earlier today, good work!

In addition some of us do our part of leaving TC alone when a small squad of them are flipping a supply camp so they can get some extra karma, loot etc. at a time they are clearly outmanned and the matches all but decided so kudos to the TC’ers who are doing what they doin.

MasterYoda.8563:

Zikory.6871:

MasterYoda.8563:

Rackhir Tanelorn.9123:

I’m not sure that’s completely accurate. BG is still a very formidable Server with strong population and good coverage.

Morale and momentum definitely currently favor JQ and SoR but I wouldn’t count BG out just yet.

If however, your attitude spreads through BG and catches on Gold League just got even worse

BG can’t even take back their Garrison, Bay or Hills this week SoR has them with all upgrades, also BG will take 2nd place this week.

I wouldn’t take that as a weakness in BG. SoR pushed hard this weekend and countered BGs normal weekday push. SoR played the match smart and demoralized BG’s “pugs” There were some major mistakes made that lead to SoR taking garrison and some other major mistakes that allowed them to fully upgrade it. Anyone that thinks that this is how every SoR/BG match will go must be new here or just trying to jump on the troll bandwagon. We have seen SoR/BG/JQ all blow out the scores and capitalize on fatal mistakes made by opposing servers. Also we have seen all 3 servers give up by wednesday, its nothing new. SoR did awesome this week and deserve the applause! Congrats to all the SoR guilds and to RISE :p

Becuase someone says something about BG doesn’t mean they are “new here” or “jumping on the bandwagon”. The fact is BG have been very strong in the past several weeks till this week when they lost MERC and RISE. There lose is clearly hurting BG more than these so called mistakes as you claim and yes SoR has done a very good job to demoralized BG this week.

I heard the story of MERC already, however was surprised to see RISE on SOR, what’s going on with BG to have two active WvW participants leave when leagues are but weeks away. Server drama brewin?

Krakah.3582:

No one will care about league. Most people will be skipping season to play other upcoming games. Anet has shown they are incapable of making competitive game formats.

Yah we know the game is dying. Just take a break man, go log off and play your other upcoming games, GW2 will still be here on your return, less of course you need that 17.5 gig of hard drive space to install those other games.

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

scootshoot.6583:

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

renmei.3102:

I just don’t understand.. SOR has BG’s bl tri-keeped and they are swarming TC’s map instead? There is a time for taking softer targets and another for server pride.. go take your kitten back -____-

Sadly with the fact BG didnt pressure SORBL at all really they took the lead, normally would get those points back during the week however sadly again not much pressure on SoRbl lost us this match. That given the fact Anet released yet another untested and bugged patch made them close WvW for 8hrs+ leaving SoR in the lead and giving us less time to play and get back in the lead. That with the fact Anet opened WvW again during a busy period for sor and not so much for BG, SoR could push us and we were stuck defending. And on top of that Anet decided to give us all paper towers/keeps back (min all our seige). So Yes we lost this matchup thx to Anets incompetence. So BG are mostly karma training now so expect more of the same.

Woah, that sure is a lot of facts and in essence who can argue with facts? Thanks for sharing!

Umm they’re all facts bro, I guess you dont play W3 much to notice.

Did agree with ya though, notice I responded with no facts to question your facts, as they say, can’t argue with facts.

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

renmei.3102:

I just don’t understand.. SOR has BG’s bl tri-keeped and they are swarming TC’s map instead? There is a time for taking softer targets and another for server pride.. go take your kitten back -____-

Sadly with the fact BG didnt pressure SORBL at all really they took the lead, normally would get those points back during the week however sadly again not much pressure on SoRbl lost us this match. That given the fact Anet released yet another untested and bugged patch made them close WvW for 8hrs+ leaving SoR in the lead and giving us less time to play and get back in the lead. That with the fact Anet opened WvW again during a busy period for sor and not so much for BG, SoR could push us and we were stuck defending. And on top of that Anet decided to give us all paper towers/keeps back (min all our seige). So Yes we lost this matchup thx to Anets incompetence. So BG are mostly karma training now so expect more of the same.

Woah, that sure is a lot of facts and in essence who can argue with facts? Thanks for sharing!

Titan.3472:

Hello SoR show us what you are made of this week ? At least until you find some excuse about loosing again XD

Speaking of excuses…………

Avelos.6798:

How the heck do you have 30 FPS in zergs? It takes a huge overclock on an intel i7 3930K to get 30 FPS in a zerg. Unless the zerg is small I think you’re blowing smoke there.

Indeed. Want to test real zergs, go up to T1 and zone into stonemist lord room on reset when the 3 big hounds of SOR, BG and JQ are stacked on top of one another, haha.

torgalspu.9074:

haha so basically got a heap of junk CPU (which i just bought) to play this game and umm yeah i can’t play fx series work pretty well on most other games its a shame guess i will be saying goodbye to guild wars lol maybe come back if i ever get a new CPU or they make use of more cores

You purchased a pre built one and didn’t do your homework, eh? Live and learn…

quacthulhu.2546:

This match-up sucks for TC. Haven’t seen any “good” fight, just being over-zerged. WvW is no fun if it’s not sporting, for either side of the fight.

Strategically use the BG vs SOR hate to your advantage. You guys did great yesterday. There was a HUGE battle for SOR bay as BG controlled it. Both BG and SOR had their main forces there trying to defend and retake Bay, during this long drawn out battle TC took BG Garrison and held it for a long while when I was on so well done for those involved.

As the underdog, continue to take advantage of those situations….

Kalla.4290:

scootshoot.6583:

Vash.9183:

spanky.4630:

Vash.9183:

IRON has got to be the most immature guild that has ever been fought in WvW. I mean, fuh real. Zerg the forums more. Whisper spam your enemies more. Emote spam more. Lul

Also, one thing… running with 35-40 guild members is more than any other guild in this match-up pulls on a regular basis. I really have no clue why you keep referring to that number as “low.” Any guild can do good if they have 35-40 guild tags following them.

Le sigh… Why does everything said in this thread have to be so cliche… even I feel like I’m repeating the same thing. Keep it up.

Iron has its trolls as does most of the guilds here . But to call a whole guild immature is somewhat immature And I don`t see anyone saying our number is low. Iron run about 35-40 dedicated members most nights. which is low compared to the mega blobs we fight most of the time .

But, even those “mega-blobs” aren’t much bigger than you. Plus they don’t have 35-40 guild numbers included with that blob. This is the point I am trying to make to a guild who harasses their enemy when their enemy loses.

You should be more concerned with making amends with ex MERC who jumped ship. It’s unfortunate BG’ers disrespected their past/present contributions to the server.

BG doesn’t remember its history well (or at least many of those that post here don’t).

Indeed, the sheer number of bandwagon guilds and players lookin to be carried who stacked onto BG, it’s probably difficult to track who is who at this point.

Vash.9183:

spanky.4630:

Vash.9183:

IRON has got to be the most immature guild that has ever been fought in WvW. I mean, fuh real. Zerg the forums more. Whisper spam your enemies more. Emote spam more. Lul

Also, one thing… running with 35-40 guild members is more than any other guild in this match-up pulls on a regular basis. I really have no clue why you keep referring to that number as “low.” Any guild can do good if they have 35-40 guild tags following them.

Le sigh… Why does everything said in this thread have to be so cliche… even I feel like I’m repeating the same thing. Keep it up.

Iron has its trolls as does most of the guilds here . But to call a whole guild immature is somewhat immature And I don`t see anyone saying our number is low. Iron run about 35-40 dedicated members most nights. which is low compared to the mega blobs we fight most of the time .

But, even those “mega-blobs” aren’t much bigger than you. Plus they don’t have 35-40 guild numbers included with that blob. This is the point I am trying to make to a guild who harasses their enemy when their enemy loses.

You should be more concerned with making amends with ex MERC who jumped ship. It’s unfortunate BG’ers disrespected their past/present contributions to the server.

Dawdler.8521:

and then they probably go to a border and yell “all stack on commander, wtf you over there tag off we already have a pug raid!”.
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What Tier you play? Never happens in Tier1, multiple commanders frequent same maps daily.

That said, another way to spread teams is out is to make maps larger. Present footprints are far too small, particulary for 24/7 active T1 tiers.

Dico.4815:

Ruins are fail, leagues will be as well. Leave your comment if you agree/disagree !

Depends. What’s YOUR definition of Fail?

Neuromancer.2148:

Vash.9183:

Smokee.1754:

assasin of warr.9517:

Smokee.1754:

Its great to see so many EU guilds finally joining the NA servers. You are all more than welcome.

smokee

we gonna put a bounty on the head of your mesmers. that portal last night in golantha was awesome. we where like wtf just happend. it was funny kitten dude

Our mesmers are the best, however they´ve been slacking lately so I´d encourage you to go for them. They better kitten get in their a-game again

Not all of you thought it was funny that my 15 guys wouldnt take up the fight. I guess outnumbering the enemy 4-1 is the only fun that some – not all, of you is used to

I hope those of you that dont enjoy massivly outnumbering the enemy is glad to see new EU guilds here on NA as well. I could imagine it have been borring at times, to have an EU guild on NA that fields 40+ and everyone else running around in groups of 15-25.

See you guys tonight for some more fights.

Lol @ that screenshot. Smokee hasn’t tagged up in ages. What blob could that guy even be talking about? Those guys sure do like to whisper spam their enemies.

Yoloswag.

WvW certainly brings out people’s inner bully – intimidating and posturing when they know they how the size advantage on their side.

Indeed and we all know Beastgate is the poster child of WvW player etiquette, amirite?

Sounds to me the OP wants even numbered play. Having played WoW for 5++ years which btw has evenly balanced #‘s due to queues, I guarantee you the WoW board still QQ’s daily over Battlegrounds, this after the games been out since 2004.

In other words, Anet can add your ideas to a TEE but knowing the MMO community, the playerbase will find something new to gripe about.

Working as intended, next topic!

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Also yesterday in TCBL before we had a real force on the map… I think this may have been just a BIT overkill, dont you think SoR? I mean we had all of maybe 10 max in the keep and no siege, we literally had just taken it back.

And your opponents were to know this how?

Yah roll engineer. They still pretty rare to see on the battle field so if anything you can be unique and if you become really good at the class you will stand out amongst the pack.

We rarely chat on our server, everything is done via TS. If you typing in a real time battle..well good luck to you friend!

Mogar.9216:

The numbers will force their hand the problem is as it was with every other failed mmo of last decade. The dev fail to realize that once you lose a player you will never get him/her back. So as the numbers start to fall it’s more or less over.

lol, yah but most of those were pay per monthly….

Just take a break if you feeling burnt or left out, GW2 will still be here when you come back, less of course you need to free up 17 gigs of hard drive space to install your new MMO.

Don’t see it being added with present land mass. Future expansion maybe.

Allows hardcore guilds to min max their group setups and analyze post battle adjustments something of which is hard to calculate after post random zergs.

Most of the hardcores sometimes run as guild only with commader tags off so they typically run into numbers much greater than them.

Guilds like Red Guard would not be as skilled on the field if they did not practice GvG matches. Do a search of Red Guard GW2 battles on youtube, those guys ran like one flowing unit.

celeron.3469:

Morabi.4568:

Personally Tier 1 servers should just be given their own WvW meta and let the other servers play between themselves that way those that want to blob and win can blob and win and everyone else can play a more European WvW style.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/36/105

This is your server. Let’s stop being silly here.

Hah! Nicely played sir.

Interesting chart indeed….

spRonin.7128:

Sigh. More friction between devs and players, and oddly even more friction between the players. Everyone is starting to feel alienated because of the direction they feel their game heading (their game being relative to the players who play it).

It’s pretty obvious that ArenaNet has a vision for this game which conflicts with what some players want. Whether that player base is the majority or not, will only be obvious when new games start coming out. Though if true, by that time it will be too late.

You new to MMO’s? Go read the WOW forums, their forums, particularly the pvp section has been the same QQ fest since launch date 2004.

The boards vibe here is nothing compared to WoW’s….

Avenge.1478:

Kind of interesting to see what the lack of MERC is doing to BG

You’ll get your answer mid week. BG of recent past tends to have a huge push mid week during SEA/Oceanic and have shown they can make up 10k ppt plus.

BG looked they were doing a lot of heavy recruiting during those timeslots long before several members of MERC disbanded last week. Will the replacements be as dedicated to WvW as MERC was? We shall soon see……………

Gasoline.2570:

Well Ill be the devils advocate, how do you know hes jukitten not a really bad player? You know, maybe he jukitten doesn’t have it all there. He sure ikittenrying!

Indeed, he could be a bad player, a special needs kid doing his own thing or a 1st grader that is allowed to log on his parents account.

Spamming chat with vulgarity will warrant a ban, I doubt however building useless siege in game will be enough for Anet to step in and cut off his/her account.

Only 20 in SM? Something tells me your ISP hit a hiccup……..

Most of my skill lag occurs on reset night when 3 huge zergs are fighting inside the lords room in SM…but that’s expected, haha

Solstice.1097:

scootshoot.6583:

Solstice.1097:

nothing.7941:

Nice out of the box thinking, but tbh I don’t think many would sign up. My impression is very few ppl want the league.

They would if WvW was competitive.

Everyone that doesn’t want leagues says so purely due to population imbalance and blowouts.

You forget this is an online game of which vast majority are casual players looking for the least amount of resistance with phat lewts as a reward.

there are 2 kinds of players in WvW casual and competitive.

i am trying to offer a solution that leaves the casual game alone and as-is while creating a competitive alternative for WvW players (those who’d be willing to spend gems on it).

just like there are casual sPvP players and those who enter paid tournaments.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Again there better be phat lewts or cash prizes even for the serious competitive gamers to make their gem purchases worth it. To state they are in a paid league simply for “competitive matches”? It’s gonna take far more than competitive matches if serious gamers are paying cash/gems/gold out their pockets to attend.