Hopefully the presence of IRON makes T1 a better place
Welcome guys
Hopefully for more than a week, but we all know after this week someone will goto T2 and someone from T2 will goto T1, we all know who I’m talking about.
But on the bright side IRON will get a taste of NA T1.
We could only hope that in WvW the NA is better than the EU because EU STOMPED NA in tpvp, but they weren’t from IRON.
Welcome back kong! Missed your posts as you were pretty quiet this whole week, did you get forum banned?
Welcome to SOR, IRON! Here is a bit of history of the server and how it came to be. Quite possibly the first of its kind in the MMO community in terms of passionate online gamers getting together for a greater cause to have a server named after an ex fellow gamer (who could just as easily be one of us)…..credit to Anet as well for following through.
http://wildboarinn.net/2012/07/18/my-gw2-home-sanctum-of-rall/
Let’s be clear here,
This gentleman and his guild are new transfers to Blackgate. They are by the very definition of the word bandwagoning to the top server. This gentleman and some of his guildmates in their 2nd week in the match up went on to these forums and started bashing every guild on SoR including our flagship guild TW.
TW took it as a challenge and has stacked into EB all week, a borderland they have never gone to before, just to fight these guys. Now after 4 days of getting what was coming to him he’s running like a coward….
If that’s true then you and TW need to chill the kitten out. It’s a kittening video game
Correct, online pvp oriented video game aka competition. You should take your own advice. Talk trash in a pvp oriented video game expect to be challenged. Difficult concept I know.
Lol at competition in WvW. It’s zerg vs zerg, where most of the time it’s everyone in PVT gear spamming 1.
I used to think the same way when I was a pugger latching onto random commanders. Join an organized wvw/pvp guild on teamspeak and your opinion will change quickly.
Let’s be clear here,
This gentleman and his guild are new transfers to Blackgate. They are by the very definition of the word bandwagoning to the top server. This gentleman and some of his guildmates in their 2nd week in the match up went on to these forums and started bashing every guild on SoR including our flagship guild TW.
TW took it as a challenge and has stacked into EB all week, a borderland they have never gone to before, just to fight these guys. Now after 4 days of getting what was coming to him he’s running like a coward….
If that’s true then you and TW need to chill the kitten out. It’s a kittening video game
Correct, online pvp oriented video game aka competition. You should take your own advice. Talk trash in a pvp oriented video game expect to be challenged. Difficult concept I know.
Step down is not necessary but one thing is clear. You represent your guild and server even more so as a commander when talking trash on these boards and some of your posts in the past week made your guild look bad.
Why is waha’s team still carrying JQ? It’s obvious JQ has become a PvE server and SoR still fights for PPT in NA primetime regardless of score.
It’s not even 10:00 AM cst in NA. I believe your definition of primetime is a little off skew. Besides it’s reset night, and as it stands now the standings are not gonna change so peeps are gonna take a break before the inevitable mass rush happens later this evening.
Good try tho man! Taa Taa!!
To the KISS Guy above you forgot to mention your PvDoor every night……….boring.
Greets Myrmi
Why not keep comments like this to the matchup thread?
mostly because its one of the worst issues since launch.
You win matchups at night and what you do prime time doesn t Worth anything.That for europe at least.
In order to fight on even grounds people have to deal with an alarm clock when their pc is shut down rather than playing…
Correct. Servers with high off peak traffic will dominate the scoreboard because their off peak team has less resistance to deal with and can tick high ppt’s for hours on end.
Not Auto-loot. Auto-loot is bad.
What would be nice is if the loot bags themselves showed up in inventory as stackable items to 250. Then you can open them later at your leisure and you should never come close to inventory issues. I’d have the bags be soul bound (account bound at the most) so they don’t wind up cluttering the TP.
one of the best idea around here, since a long while (beside the OP ones that are pretty good too). hope someone in Anet come around before everybody vanish to the next game …
Good idea but will never happen. The “loot issue” is there so that impatient players buy extra bag inventory / bank space for real life cash to help keep anet afloat…..
Nearly everyone on my server is bored. How much longer do we have to wait for real change to take place?
Everyone on your server eh?
Take a break man. No monthly fee means you don’t feel like you are forced to play to get your moneys worth
I think I’d have prefered 3 massive servers fighting eachother, faction wise, rather than 20+ where people would just bandwagon to T1/2 ones and leave the rest for dead.
Everyone will be on one big super server in TESO. Will be interesting how they pull it off.
11. Make some incentive for winning the week in wvw. Like a gold chest for those who have logged over 20 hours in wvw for the week and their server got first place. Silver chest for 2nd etc..
Long as character transfers are allowed paid or otherwise, this will never happen.
If you guy’s truly wanna know why JQ gave up a 17k lead here it is. JQ as a whole has gotten bored of the repetitive wvw match up that we have now since the match up hasn’t changed much in a long time. (Guest in JQ la and ask this is the answer that you will get) Overall JQ is tired of wvw after weekend hype and a large lead and says lets go do something else that we havn’t been doing for months on end. JQ will continue to slack off until something new is added to wvw but until then have fun bg with first then maybe you guys will feel the same after a bit too.
I am sorry but this really does not make sense. JQ is bored because the match up hasn’t changed much and had a large lead on weekend. And yet if anything you guys are being truly challenged this week in a long time and is no longer in lead, isn’t that directly contradict what you said and should give you guys enough motivation?
Indeed. JQ’s paper tiger forum warriors who talked the talk just 1.5 weeks ago sure are representing their server well. When the going gets tough, JQ tuck tails and runs…
I feel bad for SOR and JQ. You’ve all been stuck in the same stale match up forever. Now Blackgate is ticking 555 PPT at 3pm EST….tsk tsk. Time to build the next super server and take them down >:D
Yeah thanks for your sympathy (I think?). It never used to be like this, I mean we were kicking kitten during the beginning of the week then people just stopped showing up…
Not just that but a lot of my friends on JQ have decided to move to a couple newer games that recently came out & I think that I might do the same. From all the weeks of winning with JQ I feel I’ve experienced all this game has to offer & that it’s just about that time to move on. I had a blast fighting among my fellow JQ’ers since the start, Blackgate has been an honorable opponent; good luck trying to break JQ’s record. Take care everyone!
Magic, you talked a lot of t r a s h here back in the day. Now that you got a worthy challenger you guys tuck tail and run. No surprise tho with the convenient excuse.
Ciao
I feel bad for SOR and JQ. You’ve all been stuck in the same stale match up forever. Now Blackgate is ticking 555 PPT at 3pm EST….tsk tsk. Time to build the next super server and take them down >:D
Why do you feel bad? it’s not like anyone does not have the option to transfer. Some of us like having greater number of red targets.
SOR used to be this way in the lower tiers when every map was the home color and let me tell you, was very very boring running around with little to no targets.
ive noticed that because there is nothing to fight that’s why the zergs are so hungry for that one kill, I still dunno why ppl push so hard to win you don’t get anything why not just play to have fun fights?
Indeed. But anyone that doesn’t want a challenge has the option to transfer. I have to /lol at recent JQ transfers tho…talk about bad timing hehe.
It’s also the same reason peeps who cry for better rewards in wvw are ignored by Anet and rightly so.
As JQ claim over weeks to be stack with professionnal and veterans wvw player base, being 1st so long was like a magnet for fairweather players to transfer over now you are full but you have to face some other proplayers from lowers tiers that came for this said challenge to beat the overstack JQ. Seem not impossible and BG is really getting more and more veteran and skilld pro crew and guilds from lower tiers. Armies are forming and for now I can say that BG is stronger and best place to go as wvw player that love heavy fights. Some more guilds will complete BG crew soon and ensure it to stay n°1 now.
JQ times are over.
heh, enjoy the run while it lasts. As other servers who thought they could not be touched have found out…. and these guys least pulled off months long streaks before chest pounding.
I have no idea why JQ aren’t putting up much of a fight.
Am sure like any server JQ has a greater abundance of PVE only gamers who will only join the fray when their server is doing well. Once the matchups start getting hardmode they won’t queue.
Scores are very close with few more days to go, keep fighting all 3 servers!
It’s ovah…
As been said, the Coverage game only shows up during the weekday and BG has not let me down from my earlier prediction of them finishing first for the 2nd week in a row. They have managed to take a lead after being 3rd for the full weekend and around 10-15k behind JQ going into Monday….
Just sucks that our NA is so strong, but them other servers (cough BG cough) have to buy guilds to stay competitive. In actuality, if we had any EU/SEA presence (compared to JQ/BG) this whole thing would be a different story.
SoR’s NA is only the strongest because they have the most NA players of all T1 servers. .
heh, this makes no sense. Since Tier 1 are all NA servers most of the player base will be logged on during NA timezones. You see it every week on reset when all 3 servers have queues for all the lands for long stretches at a time. For the first 6-8 hours on reset when no server can use the excuse for coverage everyone notices firsthand which side has the most skilled playerbase. But in the WvW weekly point score warfare, Quantity > Quality
I can’t wait til world populations fully normalize sometime in 2016.
>_>
Tiers will drastically change hands upon the next big player purge which will coincide with the upcoming big name mmo release. Everyone knows what game that is…..
Why do people zerg? .
There are strength in numbers. Higher Tiers also have greater number of active players in wvw, 24/7. Don’t like zergs or your computer can’t handle it, drop to a lower tier with less populace.
Every update for WvW seems to bring on more whining.
New to MMO’s? Go check out every online game forum, whining is what MMO forums do…
HAHAHAHAHA! Someone’s trolling me in gw2lfg and posted me up for AC. LMAO! GG WP!
Seriously, though. Whoever that was…I want to shake your hand. Respect. I love a person who can troll back.
You make me happy that I am no longer in RISE
Indeed. Basically any guild for that matter. If I was the leader of RISE I’d kick Killtrox out as he makes the whole guild look bad.
At this point BGs Oceanic/Asian timezone is far superior than their NA crew. Not bashing BG, but that is sad on ArenaNets part for NA servers. Not entirely sure why it’s taking so long to get Asian servers.
They superior due to majority of NA sleeping. BG NA like JQ and SOR NA timezones had full queues for all BL’s on reset day. In other words, BG NA has strong guilds but they have to deal with far greater resistance than the timezones you speak of.
As everyone knows by now, server with best coverage 24/7 throughout the week will come out on top and unless JQ finds the number replacements for the loss of FOO alongside SOR’s already weak coverage, BG should take #1 spot two weeks in a row, kudos to them for recruiting active guilds for their weaker time slots.
SoR wins the hardest fights during NA prime to stay in T1 you gotta respect that, so we have plenty respects for TW.
Eh I’d say its more like SoR and their massive zerg balls are able to wipe half the BG on map while the other half are busy with JQ. Relying on knowing JQ would rather have BG points, and kicking BG while they are down is in no way winning the hardest fights.
GG for basically competing against only 1 enemy in a 3 way fight.
Too Funny!
btw, it’s way too early to QQ and you are only making your server look bad. Every non newb to WvW knows by now…work week is when coverage starts to play huge dividends…..
Waha has left and hurt JQ. Now you realize first hand what it was like when SmokeeGee left. Just gotta bounce back and keep pushing
…and BG proves right now (as JQ has every week prior), that having overwhelming numbers on at all hours is really what “wins” this game at the moment. The system itself is borked and badly designed…but then no game company has yet addressed this significantly.
BG did some major recruiting in the past several weeks, good for them.
Anyways, we’ll see how TESO deals with it. Having one mega super server is going to help due to one huge playerbase to choose from when they zone in for world battles.
How is anyone supposed to deal with this ?? War have always been won by numbers or technology. Since the latter is the same, we are stuck with numbers.
Player numbers change all the time as gamers come and go. It’s not like the servers are gonna shutdown next week so what’s the rush? Besides, regardless of 1st, 2nd or 3rd place finishes what sets Tier 1 apart from others is the fact we have fun action 24/7…. and that in itself is a good thing.
Waha has left and hurt JQ. Now you realize first hand what it was like when SmokeeGee left. Just gotta bounce back and keep pushing
…and BG proves right now (as JQ has every week prior), that having overwhelming numbers on at all hours is really what “wins” this game at the moment. The system itself is borked and badly designed…but then no game company has yet addressed this significantly.
BG did some major recruiting in the past several weeks, good for them.
Anyways, we’ll see how TESO deals with it. Having one mega super server is going to help due to one huge playerbase to choose from when they zone in for world battles.
I think we need about a 450PPT for the rest of the week over BG (not just a 450PPT but that much of a lead over BG) in order to close that gap. This won’t happen. Seen some points turnaround but this just won’t happen. Well done to BG
It’s not over yet.
To over take BG JQ need 15k points over 17 hours, that is 882 points per hour, or +220 points per tick on top of BG. I’ve seen a lot of turn arounds happen, if JQ push hard it is still possible, even if BG play at their best.
I wouldn’t concede defeat until it’s at least +500 points per tick required if I were you.
Oh it’s over, JQ at 5am Central is ticking 120 which never happens at this time of day. Grats on your win, rest up for reset night, ;D
Victory is ours finally
Finally its blackgates first turn ever to be top server of tier 1
JQ put on a tough game, can’t be sure we are going to win but it looks like it.Score update:
BG- 203,276 (390)
JQ- 189,950 (115)
SoR- 162,906 (190)
Early Congrats! If you wake up tomorrow morning with a lead it’s all but done. JQ’s only chance is a huge showing by FOO and company when they log later as they have made up 10k++ overnight points numerous times. However, based on waha’s recent comments, it sounds like most of the Chinese alliance disbanded due to burnout, etc.
I hope a recent 2nd place showing alongside the news shared by waha does not mean players/guilds are going to abandon JQ in mass. Will be interesting what happens next week.
KN guilds transferring is really shaking up tier 1, I just hope that the competition is close, I don’t care who wins, I just want WvW to be interesting, and I’ve wanted this for a very long time now, even when I was on SoS and they were still winning.
This man gets it. I am surprised very few other BG posters have acknowledged the large influx of players they have received recently. Set this influx against some recent changes on JQ and we have good competition for number 1 spot. JQ needs to pull its socks up. Lets see if that can happen.
With all the new guilds in BG, now JQ hopefully will find some true challenges, and the ball is now in JQ’s court to decide to fight for 1st or not.
JQ’s opponents on T1 knows what timezone did the heavy lifting as JQ NA players routinely woke up with 10k leads. It’s no surprise once the huge “Chinese alliance” mentioned by waha disbanded in numbers the rest of JQ is struggling to recover.
Where are those chest thumping SF boys from JQ NA? This is the longest I have seen any of you this quiet on this board. ;D
Score update brought to you by Feisty:
160 ppt during Asian prime time? lool
less than SoR?
it was not this bad when SAB came out..where’s your FOO now?
FOO logs in a little later during SEA hours… Don’t worry, it won’t change SoR’s spot in third place
I think JQ better keep their forum warrior’s in place.
I was just saying that because he’s the same guy that said he likes seeing us get our butts kicked by blackgate. SoR needs to keep their forum warrior’s in place if anything.
& its not like I was lieing or anything lol. Sorry if I offended you
Naw, what most of your competition stated from day one is FOO carried JQ, nothing more nothing less.
Kudos to Blackgate for pushing you guys this week, now what can the rest of JQ do about it when FOO is not around to carry you?
Score update from anyone for those at work
Score update for those at work.
JQ is like the calm before a storm. Also SoR, can you do something about your ppt. We need to do our best to prevent DB from ever coming into T1 no matter how much i would love whipping raw
Lend us 10,000g so we can outbid BG for all those SEA guilds they paid for.
Or, spend more time showing a friendly face to the community and less making wild allegations and guilds might actually consider transferring there of their own free will.
Pouting and making baseless excuses are much easier.
I’m guessing the SOR mantra is : “when you can’t beat em, troll em.”
BG ticking 400+ during Euro when no one is on.
SoR ticking 350+ during NA… when NO people from other part of the world are actually on.
Nuff said.
fixed that for you…..
Basically you saying those servers are carried by their SEA/Oceanic players…
Neither coverage is more stronger than the other, rather, we are all working towards the same goal together and winning can’t be achieved without the help of our foreign gamers.
You’ll realize one day (maybe) that being the best actually requires more unity than individual skill.
Going back to the original pots that I was answering too… Basically you saying SoR is ticking at 350ppt during N/A because we are working better together… I agree.
SoR rarely ticks at 350ppt. and when they do they boast about it because it’s something that rarely happens. Keep talking that big game there third place.
heh, due to the fact JQ, BG, and SOR all are categorized as North American servers, the brunt majority of forces for all servers will logon during, duh, NA hours, difficult concept I know. While SOR NA is our A team in terms of coverage, they don’t have the luxury of PVdooring half filled warzones as the North American players for all sides will still field respectable numbers.
OMG so much common sense it hurtz my brainz!!
There is a whole lot of negativity floating around these forums right now. And those folks are welcome to their opinion of course.
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It’s how the MMO community operates in every game. Go read the WOW forums, one would think not a single soul plays that game.
Vast majority are loving the patch and are too busy to come here and QQ….Thank you ANET!
11. Make some incentive for winning the week in wvw. Like a gold chest for those who have logged over 20 hours in wvw for the week and their server got first place. Silver chest for 2nd etc..
LOL, there are already enough bandwagon transfers. this would make it 10x worse.
Yes, giving the defenders an advantage for once is a terrible, terrible thing. Why on earth would we ever want to punish the blob that marches up to a tower or keep and drops six rams in two seconds?
haha
WvW finally got some LOVE!
Thank you Anet! There will be the usual QQ’s in the coming hours/days as players adjust but this is definitely a step in the right direction
The home maps need to differ from Green, Blue and Red teams. The 3rd ranked server in the tier needs to have a map that favors them so they don’t get overrun due to coverage, numbers etc. Their maps should have stronger defensive positions and make it challenging for the Green and Blue teams to dominate the full map.
Green should have the least structural advantages to allow the lower ranked teams greater chance to wreck havoc.
Blue should be balanced somewhere in the middle.
sounds like you guys didn’t get a gold transfer refund, sorry to hear that man!
We all know what is going to happen in this end with all this.
BG will push hard for a few weeks and then eventually they will burn out. They will start losing players again and be right back where they were two weeks ago. They will then look for the next server to absorb and start farming CoF to pay for them to transfer over.
JQ will go back to their casual, lazy play style knowing full well their coverage wins them the match. They will turn it on when they have to, but that won’t be all to often.
SoR will still be here doing the same thing they always have. No highs, no lows, just the steady pace.
This ^^
That’s one thing I will say about SOR teamspeak. I have never heard anyone rage or troll anyone, ever. Even during the most heated battles when things aren’t going our way. We just all having a good ole time. Couple weeks ago I logged onto TS and listened to someone “singing” some tracks as I guess she is a singer in real life? Initially I thought I was in the wrong channel, haha. Good stuff!
SOR is having a “just relax and have fun week”…. however, we will still be playing the kingmakers role, so i suggest BG and JQ keep their forum warriors in check.
That was SoR’s excuse last week also
Just how do you expect a server who doesn’t have remotely the coverage of the other 2 to actually approach WvW so it remains enjoyable?
Shhh…it’s not coverage, it’s “skill”. Try to understand that BG’s ego is rather fragile at the moment.
Indeed. Someone mentioned BG lost two EU coverage commanders along with their followers the other night which explains their sheer numbers earlier in the week. Guess they got tired of all the drama on that server and quickly left. 8 hours later look what happened to the overall score as BG and JQ were going neck and neck and in one evening JQ has grown the lead to double digits.
JQ Asia presently ticking at +450ppt, ;D
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nice job cazza, appreciate the thought put into this. Too bad it won’t happen, haha.
again, score update please!
Is the score ever really different? JQ is in the lead, likely going to win again because they’ve got the coverage. SoR is about 4k points ahead of BG and BG is about 4k points behind SoR.
Not much is going to really change, besides the gaps getting bigger and occasionally BG will pull 48 hour shifts.
Do you still think this is true? I mean when Blackgate was losing, a majority of SoR players were talking trash on Blackgate. Now that Blackgate’s winning SoR starts to QQ on the forums.
That’s pretty poor sportsmanship SoR; ever think maybe that’s the reason why you don’t get transfers? :/
heh, every week prior to reset we have a server wide meeting on teamspeak and there is one single mantra spoken every week. SOR does not pay gold for server transfers. Believe me, many have offered. Enjoy those 8pct gathering buffs in victory, ;D
We love those gathering buffs, maybe you can have them too after you drop to T2…try not to be as mad down there.
Heh, I’ll be playing TESO by then. With beta invites already started, should be released mid year. Am expecting a huge exodus of gamers from GW2 as well regardless of Tiers and/or server ranks.
See ya there!
again, score update please!
Is the score ever really different? JQ is in the lead, likely going to win again because they’ve got the coverage. SoR is about 4k points ahead of BG and BG is about 4k points behind SoR.
Not much is going to really change, besides the gaps getting bigger and occasionally BG will pull 48 hour shifts.
Do you still think this is true? I mean when Blackgate was losing, a majority of SoR players were talking trash on Blackgate. Now that Blackgate’s winning SoR starts to QQ on the forums.
That’s pretty poor sportsmanship SoR; ever think maybe that’s the reason why you don’t get transfers? :/
heh, every week prior to reset we have a server wide meeting on teamspeak and there is one single mantra spoken every week. SOR does not pay gold for server transfers. Believe me, many have offered. Enjoy those 8pct gathering buffs in victory, ;D
lol dont tell me you thought that was even?
Even? No, I did not claim they where but you never wiped 80 sor with 30 bg.
You took the tower when we had maybe15 defenders in the end thou. Grats on that?
No point in debates, let them bask in glory and enjoy their 8pct artisan buffs in victory ;D
Yeah I’d log out as well if a 30 man BG team wipes my 80 man SOR team
. Especially after /laughing and /suprised repeatedly as spam. Excellent job BG in that fight.
So you actually sat there and counted each pixel to arrive at these numbers? Very talented man! Am very impressed!
Hello from MERC & ND inside SoR’s garrison, its nice and cosy!
And this is what the map looks like…
Gee, PvDooring such a test of great skill, it seems that you even surprised yourself.
At times like these, don’t be afraid to do some Arah chain events, those NPC’s might actually fight back.You know SoR is losing when all the PvDoor talk starts lol, it’s tier 1… Go cry to
someone else.What exactly is SOR losing? enjoy your 7pct mining bonus, heh
My bad, I forgot SoR only plays for the fights……….only when they are losing
u mad bro?
Not at all, you seem to be tho sir. Lol
cool story bro. did you really “lol” at yourself? hah
Hello from MERC & ND inside SoR’s garrison, its nice and cosy!
And this is what the map looks like…
Gee, PvDooring such a test of great skill, it seems that you even surprised yourself.
At times like these, don’t be afraid to do some Arah chain events, those NPC’s might actually fight back.You know SoR is losing when all the PvDoor talk starts lol, it’s tier 1… Go cry to someone else.
What exactly is SOR losing? enjoy your 7pct mining bonus, heh
Anyway, thats what you get, when you’re on an artificial bandwagon server, so now stop whining and live with it.
haha, well put. The next huge purge of the player base won’t happen til the next big name MMO is released and we all know what that is. When that happens a chunk of the playerbase will leave for good and a good pct of others playtime will drastically dwindle….leaving the rest to re-balance the structure of the tiers.
All this chest beating by everyone…
We all know that success in WvW depends on sheer numbers. It’s not even debatable. The bigger zerg wins, the more heavily stacked server wins. That’s WvW. So what is everyone bragging about? I hope we at SoR, or on Blackgate, or on Jade Quarry, are not under the impression we’re more skilled than anyone else? Please…
You disagree? Please indicate to me a server with a low, medium or heavy population that has ever beaten 2 “Very Heavy” population servers, and then climb into a higher tier. Regale me with stories of how this plucky server with next to no coverage was able to claw its way to victory through sheer skill and strategy alone.
Go ahead, it’s Sunday and I did all my housework. I’ll wait.
Numbers don’t always mean everything. We just beat off the big BG zerg on BG BL when they tried to take our tower with like 2x our numbers while out manned. They couldn’t move us for half an hour.
One thing I’ve noticed the past several weeks from any of the SF posters is they always try to impress T1 with their skillz and beg for respect. But everyone in Tier 1, friend and foe knows FOO > SF by 100 fold on JQ, both in terms of coverage, skills.
Welcome guys
Finally its blackgates first turn ever to be top server of tier 1