Average gamer will only pay for one monthly sub fee game. Quite frankly many have tried to compete against WOW but failed miserably. It would take a developer with deep pockets and a long term vision for a MMO, also must be a product that’s well known to the gaming community. ESO is the next challenger. Will they succumb to past MMO failures like SWTOR, Warhammer, etc. We’ll soon see.
If it’s anything like Blizzards cash cow which has gone through heaps and heaps of nerf bats and skill changes, skilled players will continue to pwn and play the Mesmer class well. It’s the fly by night FOTM rerolls that will suffer.
Lol, TW player chest thumping…
If you think he’s from JQ, let’s just say I know something not everyone knows about.. That’s all I’m going to say and only post on this topic…
Interestingly this doesn’t surprise me at all.
You must have missed the response as it was a player from FOO.
Recap of the last 6 hours
6 straight hours huh? Do you look like this guy?
Special shout-out to two BG member for joining my party in BG Bay to coordinate our 2v1 against SoR and flip their waypoint. Neither of us wanted to hold bay, we just wanted to flip it, and it was pretty kitten cool to find some like minded people from other servers.
To SoR: Thanks for tha bags.
Pretty sad if thats true.
Naw, that’s actually a compliment, well done SOR! We’ve only held BG BAY for close to 20 hours and there has been plenty of bags to be had for all to last a full week. haha.
I don’t know, WM just doesn’t seem that good anymore.
Our pugs ran circles around them without a commander a couple times, and then when they hit FOO they simply just melted that much faster.
Not sure if they haven’t gotten all their transfers over or they haven’t changed their tactics yet but the trip away from T1 has just made them worse.
For whatever reason, they don’t have anywhere near the numbers that they used to have. Even on Kaineng they didn’t have very many people and they’ve likely lost even more with the transfer to BG.
Also, there isn’t any major difference between T1 and T2 other than the size of zergs and ultimately there is only so much a small group can do against a JQ megazerg.
WM showed up in force to BG BL Bay when we controlled it late last night/early morning hours. SOR had outmanned buff btw. They wiped easily to our defensive force that was there led by NYS
And I do agree, WM is on what, their 3rd or 4th server transfer? Am sure some of their members grow tired of moving around so there will always be stragglers who elect to stay put when a guild moves around as much as they do.
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again, score update please!
Is the score ever really different? JQ is in the lead, likely going to win again because they’ve got the coverage. SoR is about 4k points ahead of BG and BG is about 4k points behind SoR.
Not much is going to really change, besides the gaps getting bigger and occasionally BG will pull 48 hour shifts.
WM back in the day (from SBI) appeared to be able to fill every single BL with their guild alone. They were the reason SBI had it’s success. It went to Kaineng and started pushing the worst server to T1. Eventually it seemed each week they were doing worse and worse (at least Kaineng was). My guess is people got bored of the repetitive crap that is WvW nowadays while ArenaNet ignores the real problems with WvW and people just ended up quitting.
If you solely focused on PPT score am sure it gets boring.
Thus far am loving Tier 1, lots of action, lots of targets and is very active 24/7 which cannot be said at other tiers. Besides, ANY game can feel burn out if you play it too much so take a break and come back refreshed.
But when downed, only out of combats can res anyone. Otherwise they have to res by them self. And if that means NO one can res the person downed because they are in the middle of the crap, then tough. .
This is actually a very good idea
SoR has several havoc squads.
If they exist, they’re really ineffective or led by incompetents.
SoR’s response time as a server is atrocious. We never manage to control a majority of supply camps on any borderland. While a huge SoR zerg is chewing away at one of the two keeps, all the northern supply camps regularly fall to the enemy…and stay that way for multiple ticks. NO one reclaims them except for PUGs. For the record, yes, I am on SoR. Yes, I have been engaged in WvW since the betas. No, I’m not mistaken about this.
If our “havoc squads” snicker aren’t reclaiming lost camps (they don’t) and they aren’t capturing enemy camps (they don’t), then what the kitten are they doing?
You know…if they exist, that is.
Havoc squads are no different to any other part of the game. It’s the luck of draw dependent on who happens to be in your zone, friend or foe.
You got your A team Havoc squads and your B team Havoc squads.
You got your A team commanders and your B team commanders
Don’t let it get to you that the times you just so happen to be on don’t always work out as planned.
I wish that they give us WvW players only better drops for us (remove some of the already garbage drops we have) and increase the drop chance, ..
Rewards or lack thereof in wvw needs to stay as is. Otherwise there would be far more bandwagoning by players to stacked servers. It’s already bad now and will only get worse…..
I never have this issue.
What tier are you in?
In tier 2 the skill lag is to the point where I can’t even change attunements on my ele in some fights. And before someone says it has anything to do with my computer and settings, I have a gtx 670/i5 3570k/8gb ram with all of the character settings on their lowest.
If it wasn’t Anet’s problem, I’d be fine.
Now, T5. I was in T1 and never had issues in the larger fights. I moved to a lower tier because of queue times.
This is an issue in T7 EU. I can’t comment on T1 but in 30v30ish fights skill lag is ridiculous.
A few weeks ago there was a huge fight at Hills on a BL map with 40+ on either side, was struggling to activate skills up near Garrison!I’ve seen it once, in a three way battle for SM, but I had something running in the background. Since then, using Advanced System Care 6; “Game Booster” I have yet to see these issues again.
Lag is common in every game, and usually it is client side, rarely server side. If this is one of those few instances it is server side, I’d wager they’ll get it fixed if they can. It isn’t as simple as buying more, bigger servers though. The biggest bottleneck they have to cross is the internet, and peoples computers.
Bingo. I read the tech forums daily. Many gamers share their “High End” pc stats. Let’s just say it probably was high end 9 years ago….
ESO is your calling……only matter of time.
According to Firor many of the PVP battles will take place in a huge central zone called Cyrodiil, where up to 2,000 players can participate. The game is optimized to have 200 players battling on screen at a time.
“We’re planning on having 2,000 people at once in Cyrodiil,” says Firor. “In a particular fight our client is optimized to have 200 players on-screen at one time, which means you’ll have very large battles within an even larger battlefield.”
Neither weapon is that great to kite with really as warriors just aren’t designed to kite. The Longbow at least can bring some strong AoE to a group fight and has decent utility to boot.
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I don’t worry about kiting too much as a warrior with a range weapon. With heavy armor and the highest hps of all classes, I always go on the front lines throwing AOE’s.
If on the other hand you absolutely must run away when a huge zerg is approaching which happens quite often in Tier 1, haha, activate signet of rage, 33pct movement speed for a whopping 39 seconds. You can also blow this signet for kiting if you so prefer, 33pct movement speed for 39 seconds is a long kitten time.
Jade Quarry is totally not being carried by its asian/oceanic population, their NA is as strong as SoR…
JQ still being a NA server will still have more peeps logged on compared to Asian/Oceanic timezones so it will be difficult regardless of SOR’s NA primetime team to build a 10k lead in just one setting like FOO and crew showed overnight on last weeks reset.
So Anet.. Any fix? Is it even ‘possible’ to fix this?
In the tech section many mentioned the games engine is outdated for a 2012 release and is direct9 compatible only. DirectX9 does not utilize multi core cpu’s which is pretty much standard these days. Game will require a rewrite in code from the ground up which is not gonna happen.
Think of it this way, a huge 70 on 70 zerg meets and they are all jammed on your screen. Your poor cpu has to calculate 140+ players, pets, npc’s dodging, spamming abilities and try to transfer all that information on your end in real time……..
If you talking WvW badge farming it’s very viable but I suggest to go with a longbow due to the AOE’s.
Try to get yourself a set of Full Jalis gear as it’s high on condition, vitality and heal stats.
Only helps since in random leads you are at the front lines as everyone not on teamspeak will be following your rear.
Glass cannon builds and anyone that is under levelled buffed to 80 blow up quickly when focused
Working as intended….
Some KN guilds (3 to 5) gonna transfert over BG or SoR very soon :p
SoR could use SEA/Oceanic guilds, no queue times and you guys can make a noticeable difference.
The same could be said for Blackgate. In fact, the same can be said for all servers vs. JQ currently heh. Anyhoo …
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Indeed. Anet made the JQ bandwagon stacking worse by allowing free transfers for as long as they did. Also the commander who supposedly left JQ for a “challenge” kept the recruiting process going by constantly starting or bumping JQ recruit threads, as if finishing the week with 60k+++ leads wasn’t challenging enough, hah.
Never understood why Anet allowed free transfers for as long as they did, what was it, 3 months?
Anyhoo, the next huge player purge that may change the Tiers some will be when the next big MMO hits the store shelves and we all know which game that is….
Plenty of people want high WXP rank nowadays. So, here is a guide to get WXP fast! Follow this guide and soon you can brag about your insane high rank to your guildies and server!
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Don’t build siege, building gives 0 WXP. Let other people do it.
Don’t heal people, healing gives 0 WXP. Let other people do it.
Don’t rez people, rezzing gives 0 WXP. Let other people do it.
Don’t repair when a tower is not under attack, repairing gives 0 WXP when not under attack. Let other people do it.
Don’t stand guard in a tower, guarding gives 0 WXP. Let other people do it.
Don’t escort yaks, escorting gives 0 WXP. Let other people do it.
Don’t kill downed people, killing gives 0 WXP. Let other people do it.
Don’t upgrade towers or keep, upgrading gives 0 WXP. Let other people do it.
Don’t down people, just do a bit of damage to get credit, downing people give no extra WXP. Let other people do it.
Don’t buff people, buffing gives 0 WXP. Let other people do it.
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Enjoy your new ranks!
haha. Great post!
Original GW had an expansion so am sure GW2 will as well to keep the game from becoming stale. Won’t be surprised if the expansion is announced sometime around when TES Online is due for release.
i just want ot ask the community for it’s opinion.
do you guys like the way organised WvW is?
where everybody hugs (literaly hugs) the commander or guild leader because it is the more efficient tactic?or would you preffer battles to be more aesthetically pleasing and realistic
where you can pick out enemies among the zerg and actually fight instead of “melee-train” each other?if u like it the way it is, fine.
if you dont, how could this be improved?remove aoe cap?
add collision detection? or “soft” collision detection?
something else?
It does become a disorganized blob of pick up players following the random commander around. Join an organized WvW guild on teamspeak and you will see how quickly they decimate a random blob zerg with far fewer numbers.
Blame Anet, there is far greater rewards in a zerg in cash, xp, karma, badges, etc. Sure sitting in a structure as lookout or running small havoc teams (assuming server coverage is relatively equal) increases your chances of winning the week, but so what? Let the weekly winner gain their +4pct gathering bonus while the zerg team reaps the far greater rewards.
Exactly and I don’t see anything on the horizon in this game to fix the issues I have with WvW or warriors. Oh well, I guess I’m going the bitter breakup phase lol
Guardians are the true plate class melee tanks in this game. Warriors, even if you go 30 full in defensive traits are very squishy in the front lines.
I switched to a condition build Longbow as my primary offense wearing full Jalis gear. Doing a lot better now. AOE range bleeds ftw, lol, lots and lots of bag potential, haha.
Blame Anet, there is far greater rewards in a zerg in cash, xp, karma, badges, etc. Sure sitting in a structure as lookout or running small havoc teams (assuming server coverage is relatively equal) increases your chances of winning the week, but so what? Let the weekly winner gain their +4pct gathering bonus while the zerg team reaps the far greater rewards.
GW2’s engine is dated for a late 2012 released game. Game does not take advantage of multi core cpu’s, crossfire, or sli setups. I suspect all those added features will create performance issues. I’d rather Anet rewrite the engine for their next expansion…
Yep, GW2 warriors can get pretty frustrating. We’ll see how things go in the future. If you played WOW on release remember how bad Pallys were and their gimmick seal system? The developers eventually made wholesale changes to the mechanics of Pallys and let’s hope Warriors here get some sort of attention. For one the warrior playtester for Anet is definitely a pve guy……
Hardly FOTM. Warriors strengths in WvW though is definitely manning arrow carts + leg specialist. You get tons of bags this way manning defensive AC on structures. Make sure to spam #2 everytime it refreshes.
is it just EMP heading to DB? I’ve heard FIRE, MERC and bunch of other guilds all heading there too? perhaps i’m wrong but what’s the point of finding new challenge in the lower tier if that’s the case?
Don’t let others fool ya. This move has nothing to do with being challenged. If you read the drama from the beginning it’s more to do with a commander needing his ego stroked, and he felt like other commanders on JQ did not respect his lead, nothing more nothing less.
Having said that, JQ is still top dawg in NA timezone off shift coverage and will continue to be a worthy T1 opponent.
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Eh whats up with this negative comments about EMP leaving JQ? I think some peoples fail to realize that EMP do this because EMP want to find a new challenge and most importantly is to give a more balanced match in T1 (something that alot of folks in T1 is kittening and whining all day)
Lets be honest here, if you were in absolute dominance and winning almost every week how many of you are willing to leave your server for the sake of competitive match? not many i believe. And im sure this is not easy decision and must be really hard for EMP to leave JQ their home server since beginning (tbh im very shock hearing EMP leaving JQ)Goodluck on your new journey EMP, may the “the grape justice” always be with you!
Oh ya? Lets not forget it is because of their leader that 20+ guilds went to JQ before free transfers ended and then even up until recently, still tried recruiting more guilds to JQ despite beating second by +60k give or take every week. And you’re saying they want a “challenge”.
qft
JQ doing fine without EMP? just need to look at the ppt right now, 120 during reset night.
Without EMP, JQ’s won’t even able to compete with other 2 servers during NA time slot. it is true that there are other guilds out there, but none of them have EMP’s numbers.
Was no different last week where the 3rd place server was 3kish behind only for FOO Asian timezone to logon and throw a 12k buffer soon after. We’ll see what happens the next coming days, haha. Far from over, if you on JQ you should know this by now.
A Chat Channel Drama Advisory has been posted for Jade Quarry in the following Borderlands: Blackgate
[HzH] and random [EMP] members are engaged in pointless channel drama which looks likely to continue for the next hour. SoR and BG parties in the respective borderland are encouraged to kitten a disorganized and distracted JQ team.
That is all.
On a side note, everyone knows guild vs guild drama in the same zone on reset night does not occur if they were steamrolling through objectives. Kudos to BG and SOR players that were in this zone, it’s pretty obvious your tactics got JQ leadership frustrated where they soon turned on each other.
Keep up the good fight!
A Chat Channel Drama Advisory has been posted for Jade Quarry in the following Borderlands: Blackgate
[HzH] and random [EMP] members are engaged in pointless channel drama which looks likely to continue for the next hour. SoR and BG parties in the respective borderland are encouraged to kitten a disorganized and distracted JQ team.
That is all.
Dang you called it. Musta been some major ingame chat QQ drama between [HzH] and[EMP] ….
Standings won’t change til the 4am (NA timezone) shift balances out. Since JQ, BG, and SOR are still NA servers, majority of playerbase will play during NA hours thus you see the present score where none of them can sustain 300-400ppt for any stretch.
Long as FOO is able to tick 400ppt for long stretches during the week, JQ will remain #1 by a wide margin.
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EMP is transferring to Dragonbrand! I was talking to my friend earlier and he told me their leader made a decision and pretty much placed the guild in a situation of ‘transfer with us or deal with it’. I heard the guild is split and more than half of them disagree with Rawnoodles’s decision and have decided to stay on JQ!
DRAMA
One and only post…. Troll FTW@!!
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I hope I got all of our topics down for everyone, discuss and enjoy!You forgot “how much is JQ going to win by this week”
My guess is 40k.
Dunno about that, if you look at JQ BL right now we’re getting smoked. Map chat keeps talking about EMP having left JQ, so we’ll have to see how that affects the server.
You new to reset tonight? It’s always competitive on reset night as all 3 NA servers are fully active with players. Hard for one server to tick 400ppt when there is active resistance everywhere.
Go back Camelot Unchained. Yes I know 90% of you play gw2 cause its free. I mean why else would you spam two abilities for 9 hours straight but come on get a better job or join the military to pay a $14.99 sub fee for 30 DAYS yes .50 cent a day. Heck you might actually leave the States once in your life. Keep up the hardwork foo ppt at 500 ain’t easy it’s hard being cool.
Heh, sounds like you just got zerg trained. FOO don’t fool around and the members are classy, JQ is lucky to be carried by them.
Far as the sub fee, lots of recent mmo’s have gone this route cause they can’t compete with Blizzard’s cash cow but have still managed to be very profitable. GW2 is still a very good game, albeit you need a decent computer / cpu to get reasonable frame rates in Tier 1 WvW when the impending explosion of pixels happens. ;D
ah, the classiness continues.
So says the guy starting a callout thread.
You do realize that a single scout can call for reinforcements, right? Am sure you have been on the receiving end of a huge reinforcement call out train from your rear just prior to claiming an objective……….
btw, far as deemed exploits, QQ moar at Anet…you’d get further if you send Anet a bug ticket as opposed to crying about it here.
We wouldn’t know would we? As I recall, after our last encounter with votf they made thoroughly sure they would never encounter us again..
Oh, that time when we sat in your spawn tower with the door open for almost two hours (with 30 people and we kept running out and killing u and u wouldnt come in) and then we went to your spawn supply camp where your commander re-spawned twice and it took you over 14mins to whittle down 30 people with your server constantly re-spawning…
Please tell me why we would waste our time fighting people who either run away or claim a GvG happened when it was a server vs 30 people…
Still waiting on your vid of our encounters. You know, the one where you didn’t look utterly ineffectual like in the one WE released. ROTFL
lol they have footage of it, after they reviewed it they realized they were being wiped by a handful of TW and pugs during there own timezone, that can make even some of the more hardcore guilds feel a bit tender. His post above explains this well.
Soooo you guys kill them at your spawn camp and claim victory. It takes about 5-10s to get back from full death there. Soooo that’s an accomplishment, why?
They dont seem to get it
Ohh we get it. Words are what you guys have to use against tw. Must be depressing.
Once again, grants on killing Maves, human warrior, commander and gm of tempest wolvesOk so I will make it quite simple for you. We took your spawn tower, we held it for about 2 hours with you guys waiting outside for most of it (not a single push) which meant we came out to attack you constantly, now considering your spawn is 10s from the tower (aprox) then you have the advantage here. We got bored waiting for you so we went to your spawn tower with the aim of “Lets see how long it takes for us to die”.
So essentially its 30 people vs your map, we held for over 10min without much difficulty. We could have quite easily disengaged before but as I said, the point was to see a time that we could hold for, so congrats on getting your server to respawn several times in order to wipe us at the supply camp that is around 15s run from your spawn.
Oh and congrats on turning down the GvG vs us also, funny how you whine about lack of GvG now though.
Cool Story Bro
While I understand the OP’s concerns. When it’s all said and done who cares? Fact is all 3 belong in T1 and 1 server just so happens to be carried by their Asian crew, it’s all good.
Let them enjoy their virtual meaningless standings and their extra 4pct gathering buff…
Besides, what’s the hurry? it’s not like the servers are gonna shutdown next week with a grand prize at the end of the rainbow. I much prefer to have plenty red targets to play against and T1 supplies it 24/7.
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Team JQ is still accepting all challengers for the T1 title. You can fight us zerg v zerg, gvg, 5v5, 1v1, yak vs yak, smack vs smack 24/7 7 days a week, we are available for your wvw pleasure.
Our team record of gold medals in T1 versus our current opponents:
1. Jade Quarry 13
2. Black Gate 1
3. Sanctum of Rall 0Please note we do know the majority of the whine posts come from #3 and not the #2 server who have actually defeated us in T1 before.
Any need for further discussion?
There is a slight typo there, based on the data distribution points it should read :
1. Foo 13.
QFT
Heh. Your statement above still comes down to numbers advantage. More eyes and ears as scouts on the road thus covering more land area. Extra bodies to run supplies, upgrades etc.
Did you miss last weeks reset night? Up until 4am all 3 servers were neck and neck as every NA player packed the queues for each. Was a less then 2k difference when I went to bed. Woke up the following morning around 11am central to see the lead balloon to 12k JQ advantage, lol. How do you think this happened? From your Asian crew defending and upgrading? haha.
Anyhoo, we had similar advantage when we were on T2 and the games grew stale fast pounding on doors with little resistance so much prefer having the greater number of opponents to go against so keep those bandwagon transfers coming JQ!
If you want to continue believing this then who am I to change that. I could respond with some excellent counter points here but really its not worth my time given your post history.
Heh, I just deal with facts. I woke up to what was a close match for the first 10 hours on reset night to a 12k lead once the 4am shift took over. Are you denying this never happened?
I believe the guilds that won’t even try is because they know better and expect to be wiped.
Regarding Foo, it is obvious they didn’t even expected the outcome or they might have not accepted, as soon the ball was already rolling it would have been hard for them to honorably back away from these fights even if they wanted.I work really early hours (4am est) so on the weekends I get to see FoO in action often and I can say, without reservation, they are more than a zerg. Yes, they have huge numbers. Yes, as any large guild of that size, skill level varies. Same as in any large western guild.
However, when it comes to discipline and organization, sheer points producing potential, I think they kick NA’s butt. When’s the last time you saw a group from NA do sentry duty at a camp? Sure maybe a person will watch a door, maybe player will patrol a yaks route. FoO will set up a 5 man in every camp with a response team ready to be there in 30 seconds. Heck they even have a sentry or two on each yak. Basically, a solo hunter like me can’t do jack but gank the occasional solo on their way to doing something productive and responsible. Basically, they’re an army and we’re just roaming barbarians. Any NA guild could learn a thing or two. Sure, in a wild fight we beat em.. But I think taking a keep from them would be miserable.
What they do, standing bored at an objective, takes pride. They ENJOY it, because it’s winning. And I do believe that pride would also require them to keep coming back, even if they lose, until they do beat us.
I guess we’ll find out Sunday, eh?Right now these tactics are one of the major reasons JQ is winning. Sure we make full use of our stronger timezones and appear to have some better numbers at times as well but we defend and upgrade our stuff better than the other two servers and so hold onto to points for longer. Each timezone tries to hand off something for the previous timezone to work with.
Heh. Your statement above still comes down to numbers advantage. More eyes and ears as scouts on the road thus covering more land area. Extra bodies to run supplies, upgrades etc.
Did you miss last weeks reset night? Up until 4am all 3 servers were neck and neck as every NA player packed the queues for each. Was a less then 2k difference when I went to bed. Woke up the following morning around 11am central to see the lead balloon to 12k JQ advantage, lol. How do you think this happened? From your Asian crew defending and upgrading? haha.
Anyhoo, we had similar advantage when we were on T2 and the games grew stale fast pounding on doors with little resistance so much prefer having the greater number of opponents to go against so keep those bandwagon transfers coming JQ!
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Wonder if SoR can pull a win this week
We have too many holes in our timezones where JQ can just wreak havoc over everything. Asian/Oceanic time zone is one of the worst, where massive guilds like FOO walk over the tiny 20 man group we can field, and our one group has to bounce between border lands to hold objectives while JQ can field three of four different zergs, all of which outnumber ours, all at once.
Yea on first reset night after everyone went to bed we were trying to defend Bay with 5 people in the zone as a massive FOO zerg was approaching, haha.
This may sound crass, but can Cuddlestrike simply post the score update and not use it as an excuse for an Asuran runway expo? It reminds me of Toddlers and Tiara’s and it’s starting to make me sick.
I miss Feisty’s updates, short and to the point
Talk as much kitten as you like, The score tells a different story.
Scoreboard posturing went out of style months ago. Anyone with a clue knows that the weekly score is mostly due to who has the best 24-7 coverage.
Please insert another quarter and try again.
QQ’ing about coverage ‘again’. Ask yourself why? What self respecting guild would want to associate themselves with a server that insists on sending representitives like yourself and other goons from various guilds on here talking complete rubbish constantly?
And please lets not go down the posturing road shall we? 90% of the drivel you post is posturing. Dont get all defensive when sombody reciprocates your trashy comments and suggest that they ‘have no clue’. Its unwarranted. nobody buys into your sad propaganda.
And your current situation as far as coverage is concerned is testament to that.Thank you and goodnight.
So says the JQ transfer from Blackgate. Nothing else needs to be said bandwagon boy.
Thanks for playing
EMP doesn’t zerg-ball they DOUBLE SUPER ULTRA ZERG-BALL!!
heh! Yah according to some in this thread, the only server that runs in oversized packs are SOR.
Nice screenshot, looks like a lot of fun!
Most of you new to MMO forums? this board is tame compared to the happenings at other sites.
Future TES forum will be no different…..
