Guild Wars 2

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

We asked repeatedly for this sort of thing and Anet has never done a thing about it.

we got colorful tags!

Personally I think for a frontline build you lack the “supportive” skillz a guardian could potentially bring to the fight, the hammer GS guardian is good control but works better for small roaming groups and not frontline zergs…

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQJAWSlsApWoNDxVI8DNRCRl9M8fBIWfw1LQAcAA-TFyHABBcIA+R5XTKBr9BAoz+DFq+DAXBgL0BQKAmUGB-w

That link is what you’ll find a lot of guards use in pug zergs….

Quick points:
-The hydromancy sigil in hammer is handy as hydromancy chills, does damage and is also a blast finisher on weapon swap… (so use purging flames before swapping to hammer for extra might blast)
- The clerics gear on just armor should be enough for a full health heal from your staff might when using Altruistic healing
- High uptime on stability (very important especially if you’re frontline with the driver)

A lot of people will have different builds to what works for them so you will have to work out a build that works for you aswell, what I posted I feel is just a standard meta of what guards should be using in pugzergs

X T D.6458:

sephiroth.4217:

X T D.6458:

OP is referring to the behavior, not how to get around it

So because OP and his friends won’t leave spawn, it’s everyone elses fault that the enemy roamers are there looking for a fight?

If you read the OP, he says he knows there are other exits etc, he is asking peoples thoughts about the behavior, not how to get around it. If you looked at the pic, thats hardly a roaming group lol.

And if you read what I said, you would realize I never said anything about other exits and that my comment was referring to behavior….

I already know that if people want fights, then they’ll go to where ever the enemy is, even if they do sit in spawn and complain about it….

X T D.6458:

OP is referring to the behavior, not how to get around it

So because OP and his friends won’t leave spawn, it’s everyone elses fault that the enemy roamers are there looking for a fight?

Paavotar.3971:

Nice try Sephiroth, but still…

The OP never stated this place was in WvW. The closest is this line: you can’t use Teleportation Device in WvW at all, including Edge.

And in that he actually stated Edge which referst to that this place is in Edge of the Mist and not in WvW. Oh and WvW forum is also EotM forum.

It’s kinda sad to be smart kitten about EotM when it could potentially bring more people to WvW which is lacking players on lower tiers at the moment.

PS:
On the topic tho.

In WvW you can actually place siege in siege locked place as long as you throw the siege from a place where there isn’t siege lock. So I suppose this is true in EotM as well.

what are you on about mate lol
I just posted that cuz I never eotm…

Where in WvW is this?

SilverWF.4789:

Radar – some kind of hack, what shows enemies around you.
Something like that:

A little google search provided me with this picture… I’m assuming zoom hacks and that “radar”….

Spawn camping happens when you’re looking for fights but the enemy won’t leave spawn…

look at [TIE] from IOJ, IOJ was getting spawn camped until [TIE] took a different exit forcing the spawn campers to search the map for them just for a fight.

If you sit in spawn, then all the fighters WILL be in your spawn.

Pretty much what everyone else said…

It will lead to more nerd rage when people lose on “faceroll” builds.

mango.9267:

Perplexity runes by themselves aren’t problematic. However, when combined with certain condition specs, they make for an incredibly deadly combo that really doesn’t require much skill to play.

A number of posters here seem to think that people who complain about perplexity are spammers or bad players. Far from it. Perplexity makes apply confusion a trivial matter, and what makes these perplexity specs so punishing is that confusion is applied on top of other damaging conditions that punishes any action, including condition clears and (in some instances) dodges. If your build relies on incremental condition clears (e.g. thief using sword 2), then trying to clear conditions while you have confusion will often kill you before you get rid of the confusion. Similarly, if you trait for certain dodge effects, even dodging can end up killing you.

Even if you stop using skills, you have to worry about the rest of the damaging conditions ticking on you. You might survive, but the time you spend not attacking your opponent is time they can use to wait on cd’s or time they can use to play more aggressively against you.

Is the rune stronger than other options like balth or krait? Debatable, but it’s a moot comparison, since the runes accomplish very different things, and it might be the case that all three of the condition runes are too strong. At the moment, it’s unclear whether the problem is with perplexity runes or with the larger condition meta.

The best way to deal with perplexity roamers is often to just walk away. The game isn’t balanced around 1v1’s, and the set becomes much weaker in larger groups.

This is why I found perplex a problem, but I have conformed and as playerbase said, you only die to perplex if you bad, and turns out since using perplex just about every 1v1 encounter the enemy has been extremely bad.

I ended up conforming and now roam on a dire/apoth perplex engie, drop a crate, apply confusion then stand still and bomb heal myself while they kill themselves…

Applying 20+ confusion at the start of the fight isn’t OP is it? Especially when a necro applies torment too! as people said though, just stand still and take it. Dont attack!

I think it depends if they have emote tab open, not entirely sure…

My emotes are off, I found if I got zerged down atleast 5-10 people would stop and /sit/sit/sit/sit/sit/sit/sit/sit/sit/sit

Only a WvW player knows how bad WvW actually is.

Only a WvW player would run perplexity.

Only a WvW player will stare down a thief from inside a tower.

Everytime I log off WvW it should shut down until I log on again.

I went to T2 for roaming and guild raids… the raids are kittenin fantastic but the roamers, wow… So much perplex…

Most mornings before work I like to have a roam and find some fights, but since coming to t2 I have had a hard time finding anyone to fight that isn’t a perplex tank…

Does anyone have any tips on how to fight these guys using a Mediguard? or should I just conform and remake a PU staff condi perplex mes/thief

Zaxares.5419:

sephiroth.4217:

Zaxares.5419:

I wouldn’t take that approach. That’s the same sort of mentality where players go “Hey, this is clearly an exploit, but I’ll keep doing it until ANet tells me to stop because it’s not SAID that this is an exploit.” In a worst case scenario, it can result in bans.

Safe zones are clearly meant to be just that; places where the enemy is not supposed to be. While they can’t actually harm the players themselves, they can harass them (emote spamming), troll them by killing enemy NPCs (kill off the siege merchants so they are forced to go to another map to buy siege, for example), and just spy in general.

I would immediately report any enemy player I see in my map’s safezone, and I encourage all players to do likewise.

You actually thought I was serious? lol…

I did. You’d be surprised at the kinds of players I’ve run into in my years online. I have met people who genuinely believed that if the devs made a mistake and a bug/exploit existed, then it was their God-given right to exploit the hell out of it until it was patched. And they would raise holy hell about it afterwards if they got suspended/banned because “it’s the DEV’S fault!” Yeaaah, then by that logic, if you accidentally left your house door unlocked and somebody got in and stole your stuff, the thief was perfectly justified in his actions and should face no punishment.

If you were genuinely being sarcastic, then I apologise for thinking the worst of you. I’m REALLY jaded these days.

haha yer sarcasm is hard to read, I thought maybe the rhetorical question would have helped my case but thanks to you I was able to post that GIF lol

Xillllix.3485:

T1 for blobs and PPT
T2 for large guild fights and roaming
T3 just for roaming

Roaming in T2 is aids, nothing but perplex condi tanks but very accurate what you posted.

Zaxares.5419:

I wouldn’t take that approach. That’s the same sort of mentality where players go “Hey, this is clearly an exploit, but I’ll keep doing it until ANet tells me to stop because it’s not SAID that this is an exploit.” In a worst case scenario, it can result in bans.

Safe zones are clearly meant to be just that; places where the enemy is not supposed to be. While they can’t actually harm the players themselves, they can harass them (emote spamming), troll them by killing enemy NPCs (kill off the siege merchants so they are forced to go to another map to buy siege, for example), and just spy in general.

I would immediately report any enemy player I see in my map’s safezone, and I encourage all players to do likewise.

You actually thought I was serious? lol…

Ark Bladesteele.2943:

Tribio.8531:

Pinkamena Diane Pie.8054:

I dont see what the problem is. Yes players shouldnt be able to get in there, but we can.

We all know that they can do little to no harm in there (and on a positive note: all friendlies have invulnerability, so shouldn’t take too long to get them down).

Golem stashes, on the other hand do not. A couple players can do a lot of harm in there if nobody’s around to stop them.

It’s a valid tactic to walk into enemy citadel and destroy golems just like it is to treb your enemy spawn on a borderland to destroy golems they have been building up for a golem rush… It’s dirty, but if anet lets you do it then you might aswell abuse it until we are told otherwise. (haven’t done it for a while as PPT is not somethin I care for anymore)

The game has been out for more than 2+ years, lets have a little faith that this is what the Devs wanted for WvW yea?

Just be a condition PU staff Mesmer like the rest of them or you’ll bash your head against a wall dying to them…

My shatter mes doesn’t leave PvP because the moment I step into WvW to roam its: Condi warriors, condi guardians, perplex engies, perplex thieves, perplex PU mesmers, perplex/terror/dumfire/spite/corrupt boon necros and cele eles focusing on condi with surprise surprise, perplex runes + doom sigils….

mango.9267:

Hamster.4861:

sephiroth.4217:

Guardians and classes with leaps used to be able to leap into Jerrifers in EB… Videos were made on how to do it and shortly it was fixed….

When the game was released, you could spawn on the east side of an enemy borderland and follow the cliffs right into hills lords room, that was also fixed rather quick…

I’m gonna take an educated guess and say Anet might fix it at some point (When those other exploits were happening we also had active Devs and no Living story) but a lot has changed in 2 years and Anet are a business that follows money so if it’ll ever get fixed is a question in itself.

Ansii m8, this has not been fixed. can still be done

That’s also not Ansii. How2bad

/facepalm lol..

Also I’ll add this to the list.

Guardians and classes with leaps used to be able to leap into Jerrifers in EB… Videos were made on how to do it and shortly it was fixed….

When the game was released, you could spawn on the east side of an enemy borderland and follow the cliffs right into hills lords room, that was also fixed rather quick…

I’m gonna take an educated guess and say Anet might fix it at some point (When those other exploits were happening we also had active Devs and no Living story) but a lot has changed in 2 years and Anet are a business that follows money so if it’ll ever get fixed is a question in itself.

The beacons are lit and the riders of Rohan shall come to thy aid!

Can you imagine yaks bend with access to that much supply!!!

:O

Is this post for real?

From time to time during the “sneak attack” I have been throwing random catas at random spots to see if I can blow stuff up from silly places…. I know you can cata from up on the ledge and place siege there but I recently discovered standing on that ledge and throwing a cata on the gate resulted in this picture.

After a while you don’t really need the editor, it’s main use I found now is for guild builds but in general if you have all the gear + spare sets then you can just slap kitten together from your inventory while on the move depending if you want the 1v1 burst or be a 1vX survivalist ….. Assuming you can render enemies before the name tag shows up.

GOM > FA > GOM > IOJ > GOM > CD > IOJ > BG > IOJ > FA…..

I try to follow the fights and at the moment DB/FA in T2 are dukin it out daily while YB arrow carts the fight from the towers

Good build, I used to run it before I got back into zerg busting and some other variants but I haven’t used those guardians since I made my 3rd one for guild raids.

coglin.1867:

sephiroth.4217:

Thankfully those people have less than 3k AP and still think PPT is the fun part of WvW…

What does their level of achievement points have to do with anything?

someone with 3k AP is going to be more ecstatic towards WvW compared to someone who has been in WvW since beta… Nothin was meant to be implied badly upon it, newer people are a bit more PPT focused naturally and there is nothing wrong with that, that’s how they want to play the game.

CrimsonNeonite.1048:

Has anyone got any QQ about giving away Points by going yolo against groups or players, especially while roaming?

Yep, few times… Supposed to get on TS and zerg instead of giving away free PPK from roaming. Thankfully those people have less than 3k AP and still think PPT is the fun part of WvW…

This whole thread is exactly why people don’t want to use TS…. Who the hell wants to log on and have a 14 year old kid telling him how to play his game ontop of kittenty kittenin music bots… Everyone understands why TS is important but if you’re a bunch of kittens no one is gonna wanna play with you

moomincat.9816:

Pretty much baddies will be baddies, The same people who don’t use mumbles and ts are same people who run in zergs with solo builds, then moan about how the other servers is blobbing up when they get one pushed, pretty much its why I turn off map chat now,

So having a kid or a family makes people baddies? WOW… Some of us actually have a life mate.

Its all about builds and skill level…

I don’t use the servers public TS due to a lot of kids yelling at each other, arguing over who knows more and complaining about a couple of 1 push uplevels…

For me the choice is: Listen to kids whine or listen to music.

Guild raids on a private TS is another story.

Junkpile.7439:

Some players who win all 1 vs 1 fight are very bad in real fights. They don’t know how to use siege and zerg fights they just running outside fight and try to have 1 vs 1 fights. Totally useless players if you ask me.

It’s a legit tactic, scour the edges of a fight, assassinate any tryin to leave the zerg to refresh, stomp him and rally 5 allies… It’s seen in GvG’s a lot too I believe, the thief tryin to take out an ele or power necro

The ranger didn’t even need to be buffed, players were that bad at working out how to use the ranger they decided to "buff"it to make it more user friendly for the general population… I have 2k hours on my WvW ranger but I havent used him since the patch as it felt skillless to pewpew someone to death from 1500 range away…

The ranger has so many damage buffs in the traits alone that a longbow rapidfire spikes at 18k and AA average out at 5k a hit.

…. Kinda miss my axe/warhorn sword/dagger-torch build for roaming

Jski.6180:

sephiroth.4217:

Jski.6180:

Crius.5487:

January 13th the sneak attack event ends which means white swords are back for everyone!

Back to stagnate wvw where ppl hold every thing 24hr/ 7 days what fun…

I just moved to your server where white swords are not an inssue but for t3 and under there really needs to be white swords to help counter population imbalances…

PPK should counter population imbalances and white sword means you NEED high numbers to take any thing making it a passive game. No white sword makes it more of an active game.

I just moved to your server where white swords are not an inssue but for t3 and under there really needs to be white swords to help counter population imbalances..

read. think. post. Please.

Sometimes if I have a cata against a wall and a zerg comes and hammer trains me with all that CC they often end up knocking me through the wall or under the map depending on how close I was standing to the wall…

That pic with that cata I can hit outer and inner garri, but if a warrior hammer stuns you there, you end up being smashed into the cliff and forced under the map, but rarely does anyone check to see if people are catapulting from inside garri on the cliff lol

Jski.6180:

Crius.5487:

January 13th the sneak attack event ends which means white swords are back for everyone!

Back to stagnate wvw where ppl hold every thing 24hr/ 7 days what fun…

I just moved to your server where white swords are not an inssue but for t3 and under there really needs to be white swords to help counter population imbalances…

I would like to point out that gold ranked doesn’t mean you’re a zergling lol, there are plenty of gold ranked roamers who got a high level due to killing vets at towers/camps and recieving the wxp an hour later for it when it flips

Yea cheers to everyone that posted, I had no idea it was a bug

Jeknar.6184:

Hamster.4861:

so, throwing blueprints on people will proc Air and Fire sigils when you throw them on living enemies.

lol
ERHHMAHGERD.

Well, it deal damage… Anything that deal damage have a chance of procing the sigils…

Ac’s don’t proc.. Ballistas don’t proc… Trebs don’t proc… Cannons don’t… I’m betting you had no idea like the rest of us lol

It’s obvious a lot of people in this thread seen the title and pictures then commented before actually reading what was going on….

It’s actually great from my point of view to see the Devs out and about again in WvW, for a while there I thought maybe WvW was cast aside due to the low revenue we produce compared to the PvE playerbase

I transferred to a new server, made a new guardian and now everyday on that toon alone I have to select my finisher everytime I stomp someone because it keeps reverting back to the basic flag…

Does anyone else have this issue?

I also got a new PC and when I log onto the old PC I don’t have to constantly fix my finisher, so I know it has somethin to do with my new PC if anyone can help meh?

Skeletor.9360:

So the game is “Hide from the zerg”.
I didn’t think this was the game I purchased.
Am I delusional about my expectations?.

This made me laugh cuz I’m sure alot of people bought Guild Wars 2 for…. GUILD WARS! or atleast some sort of improvement on the GW1 guild halls and stuff anyway and not just scrapped all together.

Reminds me of the people who bought D3, got mad it wasn’t the D2 devs work and ended up buying Torchlight 2 Instead lol

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Balance-Ideas-to-White-Swords/first#post4641525

already a thread going with that idea if you wanted to add to it

DemonforLife.8546:

briggah.7910:

sephiroth.4217:

briggah.7910:

If this test event just brought out more K-Training on your server, well sorry to say but sounds to me your server is just a K-Train server to begin with. Sounds to me your server lacks decent roamers and scouters.

Let me guess.. Before this change you all stack on a commander and run around taking things while reacting to white swords on the map? Now with no white swords your stuff gets constantly flipped? YUP K-train server. Break out of your zerg for once..

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Erm, no not really… I is on IOJ in [DOLO], and before the change we were only using white swords for fights… As for stacking on a commander… LOL, what commanders haha

Well we fought IoJ the week before this no white sword thing and I can tell you I solo/duo’ed a few of your towers when swords were in play. I did it to bring out fights which never came.. Like I said lack of scouts and roamers as far as I can see.

during what time zones, EU is dead i am 1 of the few eb EU roamers ioj has, NA is mostly active ( no idea about SEA or OCX)

I’m mostly OCX, but I changed servers shortly after I made my post… And being on a more populated server I don’t even notice the white swords change, people were everywhere…

Even watched a [FUN] v [AIM] GvG which was awsome

What the title says.

If Anet have already planned to keep the changes they have made, maybe the community can come up with some ideas they would like to see to help balance the changes a little.

My only idea is that they could remove costs to upgrading structures or add an ability to “hire patrols” upgrade that grants white swords to a structure.

McWolfy.5924:

Remove xp from wvw and add tomes for badges!

This is the biggest +1 Anet could do to fix this “issue” and satisfy some WvW players in the progress